Smallville Was the Greatest Show Ever

[The Sevenshot Kid]

So... Smallville ended on Friday.

After spending 10 whole years on that show I'm kind of at a loss as of what to do now. Shit. For all the bitching and moaning over that show that I made throughout the years, I'm really gonna miss it. The show had a lotta heart and it was a pretty big factor in my life. It got me into comics, made me interested in the idea of writing TV and comics, and I'd like to think that it taught me some important life lessons along the way.

I watched that show when it premiered and never stopped. Do you get that? I've followed that show and those characters since I was six years old. And now it's all over. I really couldn't have asked me from a finale. Sure it wasn't how I envisioned it but it maintained respect for the fans and the show itself.

So yeah. Smallville is dead; long live Smallville!

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

....Smallville was still running?

[Krylo]

....Smallville was good?

[Seil]

^^^^^

I will now list the only reasons I've ever paid attention to Smallville:

Reason 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE72FKrs42I&feature=related)
Reason 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBWHW4EknVg)
Reason 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtFa93b8Y7k&feature=related)
Reason 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUhioglclNk&feature=related)

[Krylo]

....Jesus Christ.

[synkr0nized]

Huh, that show was even still on recently?


Also, kind of lol and also :/ at those clips. I guess the show was bad enough that they needed to throw around things like that to get viewers?

[RickZarber]

Do you get that? I've followed that show and those characters since I was six years old.!Jesus Christ. I was older than you are now when this show started. I... I don't even know what to think of that.

Anyways (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/05/16/recap-smallville-finale/).

[Premmy]

Is this how everyone else felt when I was sad when Toonami ended(you weren't there, but replace "m,e" with "whoever you know who was)"? C'mon.. Toonami was good.

[Osterbaum]

....Smallville was good?
!?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Anyways (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/05/16/recap-smallville-finale/).

I am now so so glad I stopped watching this show years ago. What the hell did they DO to this thing?!

[Azisien]

Well I liked the prequel Star Wars and Power Rangers and shit when I was six so this seems perfectly acceptable. Reason 1 was a good reason.

[BloodyMage]

I think I stopped watching around about the time there was a cave and they had to go on a fetch quest for three shapes that looked like they were from a kid's chrome block set, but they were really keys and pretty much everyone was after them except for Clark who was too busy chasing some girl or staring at the stars wondering why he was there , and someone was a witch, maybe, and Dean from supernatural was there because he wasn't badass yet, but he had mommy issues. There was some Luthor plot too, as there always is because that show didn't have any other big bads until season 8, but it always involved him keeping a secret from Lionel or Lionel keeping a secret from Lex and then they'd argue.

Not to say it didn't maybe have some good parts going on, but the longer it stretched the flatter it got.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I stopped watching about four years in.
Which is to say that after that many years I happened to catch an episode and saw what was going on and thought
"Wait, this has been going on for how long? And they still haven't got him in the costume yet?"

[Aerozord]

"Wait, this has been going on for how long? And they still haven't got him in the costume yet?"

wouldn't that have kind of invalidated the premise though?

Then again didn't they take him out of smallville and thus invalidated the title?

[Kerensky287]

Smallville Was the Greatest Show Ever

Counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMAKtXlXf4&feature=player_detailpage#t=7s)

I mean, gorram, your show's been going on for 10 ruttin' years and you're whining that it ended? I'd trade Smallville in its entirety for ONE more episode of Firefly.

EDIT: Hell, I'd trade Mass Effect 3 for...

...

...Okay, for one more SEASON of Firefly.

[Azisien]

Counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMAKtXlXf4&feature=player_detailpage#t=7s)

I mean, gorram, your show's been going on for 10 ruttin' years and you're whining that it ended? I'd trade Smallville in its entirety for ONE more episode of Firefly.

EDIT: Hell, I'd trade Mass Effect 3 for...

...

...Okay, for one more SEASON of Firefly.

Three seasons with no casting changes and we got a deal.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

But... Wash is dead. And Book. It wouldn't be the same.

[Kerensky287]

But... Wash is dead. And Book. It wouldn't be the same.

NO THEY AREN'T

THEY ASCENDED TO GOD TIER

SHUT UP

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

But... Wash is dead. And Book. It wouldn't be the same.

There's plenty of a time gap for shit to happen inbetween the end of the series and the movie.

[Aerozord]

NO THEY AREN'T

THEY ASCENDED TO GOD TIER

SHUT UP

which is writer speak for "you are too popular to kill, so just shut up and leave"

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Not really, Mal states in the film that River and Simon had been on his ship for 8 months. Depending on how far apart episodes were you might have maybe half of that left to work with, at a push. And Objects in Space is implied to take place not too long before the film, seeing as Mal had finally realised Rivers psyker abilities and decided to put her to work on his next big job.

If you tried to cram more episodes in there before the film it'd just come out awkward and wouldn't work.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

There's plenty of a time gap for shit to happen inbetween the end of the series and the movie.

That's how you fall into the Smallville trap! We already know how the characters are going to turn out so it kills all tension and character development.

And allow me to provide my counterpoint for all of you that disliked Smallville: Fuck all y'all.

[BloodyMage]

I'm not entirely sure how that's a counterpoint to anything.

It was always going to end this way, and the only way the series could have been more disappointing is if they ended the final episode and he still wasn't superman. Yet, still, even though they ended the series in that way it still felt rather lacklustre, as if it were trying too hard to harken back to the old films, and the Lois and Clark series. Those aren't necessarily bad things, but after ten seasons I'd have expect the show to have struck out on it's own and have something to say for itself. If you're not going to tell your own story, then why even try to emulate anything? Why not just play the films on a loop every season and you'd achieve the same thing.

[Magus]

Can they finally make a Batman show now?

Or not make one?

Whichever is a better option.

Like if they revive The Graysons I'm probably gonna have to choke a bitch.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Can they finally make a Batman show now?

Or not make one?

Whichever is a better option.

Like if they revive The Graysons I'm probably gonna have to choke a bitch.

You remember how that worked out last time? Back in the sixties? With the campest Batman ever?! Although I suppose if they made another one now it couldn't possibly be any worse, but it'd probably take the Batman Begins route of uber grittiness, which in that case you may as well just watch the films.

[Kerensky287]

guys

here's my pitch

this fall's hottest new series

Young Deadpool

I mean he's popular with the young, hip generation, right

[Aerozord]

guys

here's my pitch

this fall's hottest new series

Young Deadpool

I mean he's popular with the young, hip generation, right

not as up on comics as most, but wasn't young deadpool not deadpool, and just a normal not crazy human?

[Kerensky287]

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/10/101146/1463860-thats_the_joke_super.jpg

[Bells]

i said it before, and i'll lay the truth once more

When the best thing in a Show about Superman is Lex Luthor's Father, there is something WRONG.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I am so down for a Batman show. Hell, I'm so down that I've been writing up my dream Batman TV show for the past year. I've already mapped out two entire seasons of what I would love to have made. So I'll just have to become a comic book writer sometime soon after high school and convince the people at DC to let me pitch a new Batman series to the CW.

[BloodyMage]

The CW wouldn't do it unless Batman could take his shirt off five times per episode and there'd need to be some sort of love triangle between Batgirl and Catwoman.

[Magus]

You could just skip the middle-man and all the "talent" part and just become a TV producer.

*rimshot*

EDIT: Pretty sure they've already had some love triangles in Batman, think it was with Catwoman and Talia Al'Ghul, though. So it's not like it'd be noncanonical...it would just continue being a dumb plot element.

ANOTHER EDIT: Actually the last terrible Batman TV show was technically Birds of Prey, so we can quit picking on Adam West, since by any measure Birds of Prey was much, much worse.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Batman would definitely work on the CW. Why? Bruce fucking Wayne. The man is a billonair plaboy! His character leaves room for Gossip Girl styled subplots that people who watch that channel tend to love.

[Fifthfiend]

So... Smallville ended on Friday.

After spending 10 whole years on that show I'm kind of at a loss as of what to do now. Shit. For all the bitching and moaning over that show that I made throughout the years, I'm really gonna miss it. The show had a lotta heart and it was a pretty big factor in my life. It got me into comics, made me interested in the idea of writing TV and comics, and I'd like to think that it taught me some important life lessons along the way.

I watched that show when it premiered and never stopped. Do you get that? I've followed that show and those characters since I was six years old. And now it's all over. I really couldn't have asked me from a finale. Sure it wasn't how I envisioned it but it maintained respect for the fans and the show itself.

So yeah. Smallville is dead; long live Smallville!

I totally saw this thread right when it was posted and came right in to poop all over it but then I read the OP and I just didn't have the heart.

:(

There's plenty of a time gap for shit to happen inbetween the end of the series and the movie.

Knowing they're dead would just ruin it.

The only way I could really get into it is if they agree to pull a Fast & the Furious 4/5 and just keep on putting their deaths off forever and ever and ever until they never end up happening at all.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I totally saw this thread right when it was posted and came right in to poop all over it but then I read the OP and I just didn't have the heart.

:(

And that day Fifth's heart grew three sizes too large...

[BloodyMage]

Not really, since CW's main demographic is women and while women do enjoy seeing male flesh as much as men like seeing a flesh (hence why he has to take his shirt off five times per episode) their shows are also characterised by strong women characters. Gossip girl's Serena and Blair usually have the men chasing them, not the other way around, and are constantly striving to be independent. That girl from Vampire diaries is the central focus of the love triangle. Heck, this is one of the reasons CW doesn't like Supernatural, because it doesn't have any strong leads, but they keep it around because it attracts good ratings and the CW needs all the ratings it can get.

As far as Bruce Wayne goes, he's a billionaire playboy businessman. Which means when he's not being batman and hosting parties, he's in board meetings. Check the ratings and you'll see that the recent business orientated storyline for Chuck Bass on Gossip Girl did terribly. And can you imagine Batman in Gossip Girl? Gotham city was built on Noir and seedy underbellies as opposed to the optimistic gleam of Metropolis. Batman would fit in on the upper east side as well as tramp.

[Magus]

Well I'd just like to point out that not a lot of Smallville had anything to do with Superman's day job as a reporter. I doubt much of a Batman show would have a lot to do with him sitting in board meetings. Heck the movies just have him sleep through them, anyway.

There won't be a Batman show in the foreseeable future though since the reason they axed the Graysons for example was that the movies were coming out in theaters. So I wouldn't expect anything like that until 2013 or something.

EDIT: I mean I wish they'd axed The Graysons because it was a straight-up terrible idea but I'll take a lack of it any way I can get.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Not really, since CW's main demographic is women and while women do enjoy seeing male flesh as much as men like seeing a flesh (hence why he has to take his shirt off five times per episode) their shows are also characterised by strong women characters. Gossip girl's Serena and Blair usually have the men chasing them, not the other way around, and are constantly striving to be independent. That girl from Vampire diaries is the central focus of the love triangle. Heck, this is one of the reasons CW doesn't like Supernatural, because it doesn't have any strong leads, but they keep it around because it attracts good ratings and the CW needs all the ratings it can get.

As far as Bruce Wayne goes, he's a billionaire playboy businessman. Which means when he's not being batman and hosting parties, he's in board meetings. Check the ratings and you'll see that the recent business orientated storyline for Chuck Bass on Gossip Girl did terribly. And can you imagine Batman in Gossip Girl? Gotham city was built on Noir and seedy underbellies as opposed to the optimistic gleam of Metropolis. Batman would fit in on the upper east side as well as tramp.

Vicki Vale and Selena Kyle are two very strong characters that could help carry a show. And you wouldn't really have to show Bruce going to board meetings all the time. Also, I really think that Batman can work in a normal city as shown by Nolan is his Batman films. Sure Gotham has it's rough spots but that doesn't mean the entire city has to be smeared in shit.

Plus, any show about Batman would probably bear a lot of resemblance to Dexter with a main character struggling with a double life and having very character driven plots.

[Aerozord]

he's a billionaire playboy businessman.he wasn't really a businessman. His life was entirely "being batman", sleeping, and occasional party to keep up appearances. Bruce Wayne had little involvement with the day to day activities of the company he owns.

[Fifthfiend]

Bruce fucking Wayne. The man is a billonair plaboy!

The thing with Bruce Wayne is he doesn't actually give a shit about being a playboy, all that is like 100% faking and fronting.

That said someone could totally do an amazing Young Bruce Wayne show, just do a series of all the shit from when he left Gotham to travel the world, learning from master detectives and criminologists and criminals and martial artists and escape artists and all that good shit, getting into globetrotting adventures, meeting the sexy daughters of the world's master detectives and criminologists and criminals, etc etc etc.

IDK if that's the show WBUPNCW would make (or anyone, "globetrotting adventures" of any decent level of production quality don't exactly slot easily into your average TV series budget) but it could be totally great if they did.

[BloodyMage]

For at least half of smallville, Clark was at school, and then he was shown quite regularly as a reporter, but I'm pretty sure he only went there, found out recent news stories which were suspicious and then went to deal with the problem of the week. I'm not actually saying Bruce Wayne should be sitting in board meetings, I'm saying if you're going to appeal to that side of the character who is a billionaire, you're going to have to show him dealing with business partners, and clients. If you're focusing on batman, these things matter less and yes, he can sleep through them, but anyone watching for the billionaire playboy isn't going to accept the informed abilities of being fantastic in business without being shown it. It's one of the fundamental rules of tv, film and literature: show, don't tell.

I'm aware that there are certainly females in Batman who would adequately fill the gaps of a female lead, not that Batman should need help carrying a show, but rather the CW would demand it of you as a writer, producer or director to cater to these interests of their viewers. Again however you'd be drawing the focus further from Batman. Also, Gotham has always been the darker counterpart to Metropolis. That doesn't mean smeared in shit, but it does mean that the entire town is practically ran and owned by mob bosses and criminals, and this is definitely reflected in The Dark Knight since the whole point of Harvey Dent is that his election might finally change things. Gotham is not the same city as the upper east side.

he wasn't really a businessman. His life was entirely "being batman", sleeping, and occasional party to keep up appearances. Bruce Wayne had little involvement with the day to day activities of the company he owns.

Not if we're actively comparing him to the Bruce Wayne of Nolan's universe, who I distinctly remember meeting with at least one client. Granted, I think it had something vaguely related to the Batman side of things, but he was definitely more than keeping up appearances.

[Magus]

We COULD go with the best scenario where a live-action Batman show has nothing to do with CW at all.

EDIT: As for Batman dealing with Bruce Wayne's business partners, that's been done many times. Pretty sure the first episode of the Superman cartoon was an hour-long thingamajig where Bruce Wayne was cutting a business deal with Lex Luthor to have a cover reason for being in Metropolis so he could investigate his evil-doings.

[BloodyMage]

That is kind of the point. He suggested The CW and I was trying to demonstrate that it was a bad choice. Obviously it was a poor attempt at doing so.

IDK if that's the show WBUPNCW would make (or anyone, "globetrotting adventures" of any decent level of production quality don't exactly slot easily into your average TV series budget) but it could be totally great if they did.

If there's nudity, HBO might have it.

[Dracorion]

That said someone could totally do an amazing Young Bruce Wayne show, just do a series of all the shit from when he left Gotham to travel the world, learning from master detectives and criminologists and criminals and martial artists and escape artists and all that good shit, getting into globetrotting adventures, meeting the sexy daughters of the world's master detectives and criminologists and criminals, etc etc etc.

It would inevitably become a show where Bruce does all the things Batman is supposed to do before he actually becomes the Bat, and we never get to see him in the cape and cowl.

[Aerozord]

Not if we're actively comparing him to the Bruce Wayne of Nolan's universe, who I distinctly remember meeting with at least one client. Granted, I think it had something vaguely related to the Batman side of things, but he was definitely more than keeping up appearances.

I wasn't, because I will flat out say it, I dont like Nolan Batman. If I wanted gritty realism I wouldn't be watching a movie about a man in a bat costume fighting a clown.

Anyways that doesn't dismiss my point, he does two things, token efforts to keep up the playboy persona, and be batman. If he is personally overseeing a deal so Batman can get stuff, thats not him being Bruce Wayne thats Batman pretending to be a business man because he's doing it for Batman.

In fact, Bruce Wayne is the secrete identity not the other way around. He's nothing but a persona he acts out so Batman can do his thing. Bruce Wayne doesn't exist.

edit: I dont think I have ever typed "batman" so many times before

[The Sevenshot Kid]

It would inevitably become a show where Bruce does all the things Batman is supposed to do before he actually becomes the Bat, and we never get to see him in the cape and cowl.

But it would be completely justified because he'd be trying to hone his craft before reaching the Batman idea. We all have our ideal version of a Batman show and this one is mine:

Season 1 would begin with Bruce Wayne coming back to Gotham in the pilot and getting the Batman idea much like how he did in Year One. From there he would have to firmly establish himself as a playboy billionaire after so many years spent abroad by partying with old friends Tommy and Ramon (Hush and Black Mask who were old friends of Bruce when kids in the comics) while keeping Batman in the shadows. The supporting cast would be Lt. Gordon trying to root out corruption in the department, Harvey Dent's rise as an A.D.A. while beginning a budding friendship with Bruce, and Selina Kyle who would, of course, begin a romance with Bruce. That is just the very tip of the geek iceberg I've been developing. I have seriously mapped out all the episodes for two twelve episode seasons that I would kill to have made. But like I said, my idea of a good show probably wouldn't fit any of yours.

The point is that all these characters are very interesting and the source material is good enough to make something worthwhile for fans and non-fans. The characters have potential to form a great and lasting series as soon as Nolan is finished with his films.

[BloodyMage]

I wasn't, because I will flat out say it, I dont like Nolan Batman. If I wanted gritty realism I wouldn't be watching a movie about a man in a bat costume fighting a clown.

You weren't but others were, so for that I apologise, and agree with your point on gritty realism.

Anyways that doesn't dismiss my point, he does two things, token efforts to keep up the playboy persona, and be batman. If he is personally overseeing a deal so Batman can get stuff, thats not him being Bruce Wayne thats Batman pretending to be a business man because he's doing it for Batman.

In fact, Bruce Wayne is the secrete identity not the other way around. He's nothing but a persona he acts out so Batman can do his thing. Bruce Wayne doesn't exist.

edit: I dont think I have ever typed "batman" so many times before

Not quite. This isn't superman we're talking about who is actually Kal-El/Superman and creates Clark Kent so people won't know who he really is. This is Bruce Wayne, the idealistic man who's so deeply affected by the death of his parents that he feels the need to put on a costume to play out his fantasy of what would happen if he could have prevented it. Batman is the secret identity of Bruce Wayne that allows him to do the things that society otherwise won't permit. The playboy persona is a façade, but it's a façade that's hiding Batman and the real Bruce Wayne.

Anything dealing with this facade will have to deal with the businessman playboy because Bruce Wayne simply showing up and saying 'I'm a businessman with lots of money and women' isn't going to convince anyone.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Not quite. This isn't superman we're talking about who is actually Kal-El/Superman and creates Clark Kent so people won't know who he really is. This is Bruce Wayne, the idealistic man who's so deeply affected by the death of his parents that he feels the need to put on a costume to play out his fantasy of what would happen if he could have prevented it. Batman is the secret identity of Bruce Wayne that allows him to do the things that society otherwise won't permit. The playboy persona is a façade, but it's a façade that's hiding Batman and the real Bruce Wayne.

Anything dealing with this facade will have to deal with the businessman playboy because Bruce Wayne simply showing up and saying 'I'm a businessman with lots of money and women' isn't going to convince anyone.

Dude, the most interesting part of the dual identity is that he starts off with his real personality as Bruce Wayne but he turns into Batman over time. It's a consequence of being unable to turn off "The Batman" and it's that shift in the character that I would love to explore on TV because the format allows for greater character development.

And I really think that business stuff would have to be included at least at the start but you could make it interesting for viewers by including some lite corporate espionage.

[Token]

You weren't but others were, so for that I apologise, and agree with your point on gritty realism.



Not quite. This isn't superman we're talking about who is actually Kal-El/Superman and creates Clark Kent so people won't know who he really is. This is Bruce Wayne, the idealistic man who's so deeply affected by the death of his parents that he feels the need to put on a costume to play out his fantasy of what would happen if he could have prevented it. Batman is the secret identity of Bruce Wayne that allows him to do the things that society otherwise won't permit. The playboy persona is a façade, but it's a façade that's hiding Batman and the real Bruce Wayne.

Anything dealing with this facade will have to deal with the businessman playboy because Bruce Wayne simply showing up and saying 'I'm a businessman with lots of money and women' isn't going to convince anyone.

Except this is pretty much entirely backwards. One of the best parts of the dynamic between Bats and Superman is that Superman IS Clark, but Batman isn't Bruce.

[BloodyMage]

I agree Batman would make for interesting onscreen character development, I'm not debating that, however what I'm saying is that Batman has never been as simple as Bruce Wayne/Batman. It's unlike the Superman/Clark thing because Clark is Superman trying to be human. Ideologically and motivationally they're the same, but in public Superman is Clark, and in private he's superman.

The difference comes in that Batman is more accurately Bruce Wayne the sorrowful victim/Batman the idealistic vigilante/Bruce Wayne the public playboy billionaire. The lines blur between the first because the first is the motive and cause of the second. The third is the facade that covers the two. Superman might want to be Clark, and Bruce might want to be Batman, but they never truly reach the stage where the two (or in Bruce's case, three) become indistinguishable.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

The difference comes in that Batman is more accurately Bruce Wayne the sorrowful victim/Batman the dark and brooding vigilante/Bruce Wayne the public playboy billionaire.

Fixed that for ya.

I always saw Superman as having three identities. Superman, bumbling Clark Kent, and the Clark Kent that grew up in Smallville. Whereas Batman has two: Bruce Wayne the disguise for when he's in public and the angry kid who dresses up as a Bat so he can make a world where he wouldn't have to be an orphan.

[BloodyMage]

You're confusing idealistic with optimistic.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

You're confusing idealistic with optimistic.

He's idealistic in the loosest sense of the word. His only ideals seem to be that life is precious and that right and wrong actually exist.

[BloodyMage]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idealist

See #2. The fact that Batman has rules and holds to them absolutely makes him an idealist.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I would argue that "idealistic" conjures more of a Superman image but I'll concede that point to you. Batman does indeed fit the definition.

[Aerozord]

From the guy that created the superman/batman dichotomy

"Batman believes the status quo is broken, Superman works to uphold it"

Superman believes that the world as is, is good and fights to get rid of the few jerks that try to ruin it. This reflects his small town upbringing which is simpler and more idealistic.

Say that to Batman and he'll ask you what kind of world has a young boy watch both of his parents murdered. To him the world is a corrupt cease pool that needs to be cleaned.

Call their world views what you want, but they are opposed

[RickZarber]

Congratulations guys.

In just over 50 posts you have managed to be more interesting than ten whole years of Smallville! :P

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Why do you say things that you know will hurt me?

[Bells]

i believe that was the original Goal set by him

[Fifthfiend]

It would inevitably become a show where Bruce does all the things Batman is supposed to do before he actually becomes the Bat, and we never get to see him in the cape and cowl.

Of course it does. That's just the nature of TV shows, the people who make TV shows, and the business of making TV shows.

But inasmuch as it's possible I think the way I set things up avoids that since it puts Bruce Wayne emphatically not in Gotham, and of course Bruce Wayne isn't really doing the things Batman is supposed to do until he returns to Gotham to do them.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I just don't like the idea of doing a Batman show in the Smallville style. It would work but I don't think people would be down for it after ten years of seeing that same idea play out on screen. A really good Batman story is what we need. And something that really focuses on the characters and how Batman effects the city of Gotham.

Not to sound like a douche, but I really should be the guy to make a Batman series.

[Aerozord]

But inasmuch as it's possible I think the way I set things up avoids that since it puts Bruce Wayne emphatically not in Gotham, and of course Bruce Wayne isn't really doing the things Batman is supposed to do until he returns to Gotham to do them.

though having him as a globetrotter sounds well outside the budget they'd have for this kind of thing. There is a reason live-action shows usually stay in one place.

[Fifthfiend]

though having him as a globetrotter sounds well outside the budget they'd have for this kind of thing. There is a reason live-action shows usually stay in one place.

IDK if that's the show WBUPNCW would make (or anyone, "globetrotting adventures" of any decent level of production quality don't exactly slot easily into your average TV series budget) but it could be totally great if they did.

Agreed!!

[Magus]

Pretty sure Smallville had all kinds of ludicrous over the top stuff going on on its budget and had all kinds of "other" places.. There's nothing cheap CGI and kitschy cheap indoor sets can't solve! Except of course maintaining a decent sense of quality, but still.

I mean a secret army base interior in Russia is not really all that different from a secret army base interior in Kansas, you just put "Secret Army Base Interior, Siberia, Russia" at the bottom in big letters when you start the scene.

[Nique]

IDK if that's the show WBUPNCW would make (or anyone, "globetrotting adventures" of any decent level of production quality don't exactly slot easily into your average TV series budget) but it could be totally great if they did.

See: Young Indiana Jones.