El Caballero De La Noche Ascendio: Viral Marketing

[Magus]

So apparently "viral" marketing has begun for The Dark Knight Rises (I am not sure how it is viral marketing to post an image from the film on the official website, but uh...okay?)

Tom Hardy as Bane (http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/image.html)

Mask kind of looks like a gas mask, maybe Venom is in a gaseous form and he breathes Venom in through that apparatus there.

Any other "viral" marketing found on the internets to be posted?

EDIT: BTW if you're confused about the title of this thread, the Mexican bootleg of The Dark Knight was entitled "El Caballero De La Noche", which literally translated is "The Knight of the Night". Bane is Latino. Basically Punniness at all levels, here.

Better puns are welcome.

[Bells]

i don't like the fact that his eyes are exposed. But having a Gas mask makes more sense than a Liquid (the original Venon was liquid, right?) Having it as some sort of Super Steroid/Adrenalin makes it fit in the Nolanverse. Also probably means a return of Scarecrow's alchemy.

So, Latino, right? I'm guessing Underground Wrestler/MMA/Fight Club storyline coming up...

[Magus]

I don't think so, Bane doesn't roll in the Fight Club circuit in the comics or anything...not that it seems out of possibility, but if he's gonna be a major villain I don't think they're just going to make him some thug, they'll probably try to capture the tactical side of the character.

EDIT: I hope they come up with a new backstory for the character though since the comic one never made any sense that I could figure out, at least why he's in prison never made any sense.

[Bells]

Well, i would say it's highly likely (if they keep Scarecrow) that we will have pretty much a rehash of the Second Hulk movie, where the Genetic Warrior goes Berserk and Rogue...

The one consistency in all new Batman movies is that Batman is the least interesting character in screen every time. and it's Not even because of Bale, he does a fine job, it's just the way they write the character...

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Well, i would say it's highly likely (if they keep Scarecrow) that we will have pretty much a rehash of the Second Hulk movie, where the Genetic Warrior goes Berserk and Rogue...

The one consistency in all new Batman movies is that Batman is the least interesting character in screen every time. and it's Not even because of Bale, he does a fine job, it's just the way they write the character...

Maybe it'll be different. He had his whole world shattered in the last movie so we might get some pretty effective pathos and a better character study like in Begins.

[Lumenskir]

So apparently "viral" marketing has begun for The Dark Knight Rises (I am not sure how it is viral marketing to post an image from the film on the official website, but uh...okay?)
I think originally people had to put in some actual effort to unlock a square of the picture (like in a mosaic) and then once enough people had done it the full image would have been released. This being the modern day internet, I think the ARG lasted about fifteen minutes before it was solved and released everywhere for everyone else to see. Thanks, nerds.
Bane is Latino.
Wha? Is that a comic origin thing, or has it been confirmed that Englishman Hardy will be playing someone of Latino-descent?
Better puns are welcome.
State-sanctioned puns are already the best puns.

[Satan's Onion]

Waitaminute...

surely if it's "The Dark Knight Rises", present tense, it would be "El Caballero De La Noche Ascende"?

/Spanish 121 student :knowledge:

[Bells]

As far as i care they can call it "El Perro Amarillo Con Queso" as long as they Fix the goddamn batsuit!

I mean, c'mon, it took Batman 2 movies for him to go "Oh fuck! I need Neck movement!" and he is a trained ninja that chooses to use a Big ass cape, except that he use it for the most impractical of uses... as a High Tech Glider! Instead of using it as a ninja would, as a Shroud to conceal his hands so he can catch enemies unguarded with stuff from his belt and confuse the enemies with this cape as he fights them....

[Marc v4.0]

To note, it could still be a liquid and atomized to a breathable form

[Meister]

That is not a lucha mask at all! :mad:

[akaSM]

"El Perro Amarillo Con Queso"

I'd watch that movie.

Also, I think they would name it "El Ascenso del Caballero de la Noche"...then again, many movies have names which aren't related to the original title like "Terror en la Montaña" (Terror in the Mountain) aka, Frozen. There are worse examples but, I really disliked that movie so, it was the first one I thought about.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

As far as i care they can call it "El Perro Amarillo Con Queso" as long as they Fix the goddamn batsuit!

I mean, c'mon, it took Batman 2 movies for him to go "Oh fuck! I need Neck movement!" and he is a trained ninja that chooses to use a Big ass cape, except that he use it for the most impractical of uses... as a High Tech Glider! Instead of using it as a ninja would, as a Shroud to conceal his hands so he can catch enemies unguarded with stuff from his belt and confuse the enemies with this cape as he fights them....

No. Not after this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RklU3zqjS4)

[Archbio]

But having a Gas mask makes more sense than a Liquid (the original Venon was liquid, right?) Having it as some sort of Super Steroid/Adrenalin makes it fit in the Nolanverse.

Aren't real word steroid usually... injected in liquid form?

Is there somewhere I have to go to get a degree in Nolanic Realism?

[Marc v4.0]

steroids can be pill form as well, which means they can also be powered. Nothing terribly far fetched about any of that

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Surely it makes far more sense to have your super drug as a liquid from practicality standpoints.

Like gaseous inhalation is going to dilute your dose compared to just mainlining it and you'd have to fuck around with regulators and shit if you are breathing it all the time to make sure you got steady oxygen supplies.

[Ookalf]

Wha? Is that a comic origin thing, or has it been confirmed that Englishman Hardy will be playing someone of Latino-descent?

I'm pretty sure Bane's been Hispanic ever since he first appeared in the comics.

[Archbio]

steroids can be pill form as well, which means they can also be powered. Nothing terribly far fetched about any of that

Bells said it would make more sense as a gas.

Personally, I'd only have problem accepting a Venom patch.

[akaSM]

Personally, I'd only have problem accepting a Venom patch.

But, what would you use, alongside Venom bubble gum, to overcome your Venom addiction?

[Magus]

Venodone.

Maybe he has liquid cannisters in that mask and he like...drinks it. I dunno. It just appears that there is no wrist mounted tube thingy going to the back of his neck, in any case.

[Marc v4.0]

There is what appears to be a valve plug at the back of the mask, though, with tubes lined over the top of his head and feeding to the mask

[Lumenskir]

I'm pretty sure Bane's been Hispanic ever since he first appeared in the comics.
Ok, but Rhas Al Ghul was some immortal Asian guy in the comics and then got portrayed by Qui Gon Jinn; I was more interested in hearing if there had been any confirmation that Hardy would be tasked with playing someone Hispanic.

Also, did Joseph Gordon-Levitt's role ever get pinned down? I know the rumor mill said that he was supposed to be Falcone's son for awhile, but then it got 'confirmed' that he would be some cop under Gordon, except that it was theorized that the cop role was just a smokescreen to hide the surprise that he was actually going to be playing the Riddler, and that's around the time I decided to stop reading rumors for a movies that was a few years away. Anybody who is still keeping up have any more solid leads?

[Magus]

As far as I can remember he's confirmed to play just a police detective of some sort, the name isn't recognizable as any villain names, he is quite possibly just a police character with Gordon or something and nothing more. Nolan doesn't seem too interested in sticking a lot of the established Bat-characters into side roles, hell he changed Renee Montoya's name to Ramirez for no apparent reason, probably to avoid us knowing she would survive the film. Gordon-Levitt could be playing a Harvey Bullock character, he could be playing some new dude entirely unrelated, it would be impossible for the simple reason that if he is a well-known character Nolan/Goyer would have went out of his way to make sure we didn't know he was by changing the name of the character so we don't have any expectations about his story arc. It's kind of pointless since you can tell by the character's actions which story arcs they are following once you actually watch the movie, but I guess it helps with speculation before the fact...

As for Hardy playing Bane, I can't imagine Bane as being British. Lots of Latinos are Caucasian, I see no problem with Hardy just doing a slight accent or something (pretty much everything I've seen with a "speaking" Bane has had his accent be pretty slight, hardly noticeable...).

Or Bane could just be some white dude with an American accent in this one, depends on how Nolan is writing it. I don't see a lot of reason to give a character an American accent to avoid having a Latino character, Hardy would have to be doing an accent either way. There's not a lot of point to making the character not Latino.

As for Liam Neeson, it's hard to have a white dude play an Asian dude (plus people would probably say its racist in a John Wayne-as-Genghis-Khan kind of way), which Nolan bypassed by having R'as Al'Ghul just be a codename for whatever dude is the had of the League of Shadows at any particular time. Although then he went out of his way to get Ken Watanabe to play R'as Al'Ghul at the beginning...I think it was mainly about getting Liam Neeson into the movie somehow, just like having Tom Hardy play Bane is about getting Tom Hardy into the movie somehow, whatever the ramifications of the fact to the plot or universe or people's perceptions of the film.

[Lumenskir]

As for Hardy playing Bane, I can't imagine Bane as being British...There's not a lot of point to making the character not Latino.
Except he's being played by an English guy.

I mean, I'm sure Nolan is changing up the backstory anyways, but is Bane required to be Latino like Static Shock is required to be black, otherwise the character just doesn't make any sense? Or is it more like Green Lantern where you just need to get the magic feather (ring/Venom) in play no matter what the background?

[Magus]

Hmm, well the current backstory requires him to be Latino because of where he's from but if you're just like "guy's in jail someplace else" then he doesn't have to be. But I don't see Nolan having a British Bane ever, if he weren't Latino he'd basically just be stuck with Caucasian American which is a pointlesschange, since either way it's an accent change. I don't think it's harder for a Brit to do a Latin accent than an American accent (I'm only doing this on the basis that it's no harder for me to do a British accent than a Latin accent and I'm just some dude, not a trained actor who is probably skilled at good accents of various types!).

I mean Batman fighting a British Bane in Gotham City would be the most hilarious thing ever, I guess he could try it. It just doesn't seem to suit the character, is all I'm saying, so if there's an accent change for the actor might as well stick to the source material.

[Lumenskir]

I mean Batman fighting a British Bane in Gotham City would be the most hilarious thing ever
Choose from one of the following options: Would it be -

1) More hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
2) Equally as hilarious as Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
3) Less hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham

??

[Meister]

Maybe he has liquid cannisters in that mask and he like...drinks it.

http://i.imgur.com/cDODn.jpg

[akaSM]

You know, about the "is venom a gas or a liquid?" thing, it could actually be both, sort of. Maybe it works like some anesthetics (isofluorane, sevofluorane (sp?)). You store them as liquids in the anesthetics machine, where they become a gas so that the patient can inhale them.

[Magus]

Choose from one of the following options: Would it be -

1) More hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
2) Equally as hilarious as Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
3) Less hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham

??

Less hilarious! Neeson should've had a major Irish brogue in that movie, I would've been in stitches. But he decided to do an American accent like all the other British actors in Hollywood movies that aren't Hugh Grant.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

New teaser poster!

http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/images/TheDarkKnightRises_TeaserPoster.jpg


No clue if this is supposed to give an indication of the plot but I really hope it isn't cause No Man's Land was bad enough the first time around.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Rocks fall, everyone dies?

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Rocks fall, everyone dies?

Maybe he rises over the rubble?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Those rocks are falling, they're rising.

Rocks rise, everyone survives.

[Magus]

You guys gotta think in metaphors. Gotham is crumbling much like Batman. But then he like rises and overcomes adversity and Bane. Or something.

Also there will be a one and a half minute teaser trailer for this movie attached to Harry Potter this weekend.

[Lumenskir]

Also there will be a one and a half minute teaser trailer for this movie attached to Harry Potter this weekend.
Yeah, and it's severely underwhelming. (http://www.hitfix.com/articles/watch-the-batman-must-come-back-as-the-dark-knight-rises-teaser-debuts)

I mean, come on marketing people. I get that maybe three minutes of actual new footage is available and it might be hard to make something coherent for people to latch on to, but that's when it's the perfect time to just have a Gary Oldman voiceover while doing a split screen of Anne Hathaway in her Catwoman spandex on one side and Tom Hardy shirtless on the other.

It's not that hard.

[Magus]

Nolan is probably too high-class for random clip mash-ups in his teasers (presuming he is the one who designs these things, of course).

Bane looked kind of silly in this, hopefully only because it is raw, unedited footage...

[Aerozord]

the main problem with Venom being a gas is that makes it really easy for others to be exposed to it which Bane would want to avoid. Just rupture the hose or even grab the mask and just huff it yourself. Venom being a liquid pumped into the base of your skull is something most would be hesitant to even try.

On his ethnicity, well he speaks spanish and wears a lucha libre mask, but wasn't he South American? Meaning he was abit contradictory to begin with.

[Magus]

Only if he was from Brazil...and if they don't have lucha libre wrestling outside of Mexico (quite possible).

But as far as I can tell he was from a fictional island dictatorship located somewhere Latinish, not a real country.

[Aerozord]

but they dont speak Spanish in Brazil...

[Magus]

but they dont speak Spanish in Brazil...

Yes, that's why I was saying it would be contradictory. Brazil is the only South American country that speaks Portuguese (I think). Also if they don't have Luchadors outside Mexico he'd be pretty contradictory.

But I doubt he'll actually be from Santa Prisca or whatever, he'll probably just be a Latino guy trying to take over the Gotham underworld.

[Overcast]

Well if I remember Bane is in his first fight with Batman he simply wanted to defeat him. The prospect much like that of a born and raised prison inmate where the Bat is the man who truly controlled the city, beat him and he would have no issue making the rest submit. It was what garnered him his early success. Not sure if he'll take the same route, but it ties well with the current martyred image of Batman as a semi-villain after the Two-Face scenario. That Gothom lives on their fear of the Batman.

I would like him to remain latino if only so I won't cringe when I see him in the movie, but I always remembered the luchador thing just being a corrrelation rather than a neccesity. Wouldn't matter what hispanic country he is from, if he is big and wears a mask and is latino it screams luchador. The backbreakers don't help much

[Magus]

By the way what's up with Gordon being all like "THIS NEW EVIL IS RISING" I don't think he ever got that dramatic even when the Joker was trying to blow up thousands of people. I mean maybe because Bane broke his back or whatever he thinks Bane's a bigger deal but if so Gordon is a bit of a drama queen if you ask me.

And yes, I can't think of any other reason for Gordon to be in a hospital bed other than that in this version of Knightfall Bane breaks Gordon's back instead.

[Magus]

Holy crap. Some of the spoiler videos coming out of the Pittsburgh shooting are amazing.

HERE IS A MASSIVE SPOILER VIDEO. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MegQKZovhaw&feature=player_embedded) This is a lot better than some of the other ones I've been seeing (ooh, wow, one of the Tumblers backing up...psshh). This one, however, appears to be a massive battle on the steps of city hall between Batman and the police and Bane and his gangmembers. The fact that this all occurring in daylight and seems to involve so many extras seems to imply that all hell has broken loose in Gotham City at this point and this is something fairly climactic. It also looks really neat what with all the fake snow flying around. I'm massively stoked for this even more now.