View Full Version : Pokemon Umbral Theatre 26: Pierce Didn't Die, Big Whoop...
Astral Harmony
05-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Honestly, as long as the plotline allows the remote possibility of Pierce getting laid, I doubt Dracorion would ever retire him. Silly Menarker should've known better.
Here's a clue, Menarker: until Pierce does in fact get Chizuru and Shizuka at the same time, Pierce isn't going to die. Why until then? Admit it. If Pierce did get those two at the same time, nothing else would ever compare. It'd only be downhill from that point. Drac wouldn't even want Pierce around anymore. He'd be too busy thinking about what awesome unspeakable sexual situation he could get Elizabeth or Sam into.
But I digress. It's time for the reason these threads are created that all true warriors strive for!
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/Poke25.png
It does seem like characters get better and better as the generations pass, don't'cha think?
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/poke59.png
Not pictured: a Staryu that bounces around while rapidly changing colors.
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/poke65.jpg
The first time I saw them, I thought they were wearing chainmail. Maybe they learned the Team Rocket lesson where chainmail doesn't protect against Electric attacks.
But they don't look half-bad. Well, except for the horrible possibility of "hood hair."
Misty + Purple Hair = Outburst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cuvqJVbpEU)
I think this is the reason Ash never picked up any of the girls. They're all nucking futs.
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 03:55 PM
You're kidding, right?
They look absolutely ridiculous.
Actually worse than the Team Plasma guys and their horrible bowl-cuts.
Astral Harmony
05-24-2011, 03:59 PM
That is Team Plasma.
I dunno, maybe it's the lance and shield they're holding that makes me think they do a better job at looking tough and cool.
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Team Galactic. I meant Team Galactic and their ridiculous bowl-cuts.
And also, I can already imagine so many ways to top Pierce getting Shizuka and Chizuru at the same time. One of them is Pierce getting Shizuka, Chizuru and Dinner at the same time.
And so on.
Astral Harmony
05-24-2011, 04:11 PM
Yeah, but you'd better set your limits somewhere.
Dinner isn't a lover. More like an accidental "did I do that?" mass-murderer that could put Charlotte after several hits of angel dust to shame.
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Irene, Sakuya, Discord, Rayne, Rayleen, Fujiko, Takano, all of the Hexagon Harem, Muon, Lola, Whitney, ad infinitum.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Pierce would go out with a bang then with Dinner. :3
Irene, Sakuya, Discord, Rayne, Rayleen, Fujiko, Takano, all of the Hexagon Harem, Muon, Lola, Whitney, ad infinitum.
I'll kill you before you even get beyond Chizuru and Shizuka if you try that shit. I'm already pretty motivated as is!
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
Psh.
It's not my fault you shot your load too early.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 04:18 PM
The more open minded would think that it is indeed your fault if in-RP content has to be retroactively amended to fit your changes.
On a sidenote, I'm mostly done the database movesets. Would just need to give items and genders to them and then it's pretty much done.
AB: Later on, could we discuss how we're dealing with Sync Techs? I'm still confused by it all. (Even though my character doesn't and won't have one)
My immediate thought is to have Paradigm Shift be payable for 20 rage a round, but can only be bought once per battle. (So you can't just pay 20 rage every turn if your character is still alive. It would have to be sold as a set). Sync Techs would be usable outside of Paradigm Shift for a price appropriate to that skill's power. If used while during Paradigm shift, the cost is reduced by half or something like that.
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 04:27 PM
What changes? Pierce was always going to live.
The only inconvenience was that you jumped the gun and started moving shit around before I got the rest of my post up.
I mean, you weren't really supposed to believe that I would kill the character I had spent so much time working on, endured so many arguments with you and Gem about. But then you did and got everyone else to buy it.
And then I couldn't resist keeping it up, even though I knew we were going to end up right here.
Because seriously, dude.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 04:31 PM
The changes I meant was AB trying to write around your cryptic messages, and setting up the battle setting as if it was true. What if we had battle posts all written and ready to go? I mean the conversation that AB wrote looks weird if we are to try to retroactively assume that Pierce was with the group all along or entered when the doors were locked from within.
I mean seriously, at least you could privately tell the person trying to run the RP what the reality of it is even if you wanted to tease the other players.
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 04:43 PM
Still got three days of testing. Once Friday is over, I will be FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE until August hits and I do it again.
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Oh, that.
I already apologized to AB about that.
Though, if you'll noticed, the titles on AB's post give the impression that Pierce is still alive. "Before Encountering Pierce" and "After Reuniting With Pierce", not Pierce's group, or Ricewood and Violet, or Ricewood's group.
My memory blows, but I'm fairly certain AB was at the time still under the impression that Pierce would live. As such, when he made the post with all those holes, it had nothing to do with confusion over Pierce's life or death status.
The reason was because I hadn't done my second post yet detailing how Pierce would reunite with them.
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 04:58 PM
Schrodinger's Pierce
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 05:02 PM
Exactly.
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm about to write s post. Menarker, do you want me to relate the plan or just use the action you wrote out for me?
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 05:59 PM
Well, Charlotte is the boss.
But she wouldn't really bother with so much stratemagizing, I think.
So, have her relay some of the plan, and leave the rest to Renny?
Menarker
05-24-2011, 06:03 PM
I guess the best way to go about it is to have Renny state something along the line of how the commander has a critical weakness to psychic and Charlotte can naturally chime in with Arceus in agreement with that plan of action. Renny would probably otherwise leave some initative to her regarding whether she uses Kick the Dog (he's not the sort to support abusing one's pokemons for power) or the use of Mightyena.
But yeah, Renny would suggest some key points (Psychics users against Granx, Water attacks being preferable element otherwise, and that sort of thing) and kinda leave some room for approval/suggestions from the leaders and such. He might also ask for some specific help (from Jeanette and Lola respectively boosting him) for a teamwork effort but otherwise, you get the idea.
Admitably, Charlotte doesn't strike me as the sort to be a tactical leader. She seems like the sort to only want to lead herself and her pokemons (which she seems to use more like weapons that one feels justified to use in any mean desired, such as with a gun).
I'm eager to see Charlotte rip into Pierce though. Verbally for now at least.
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 06:06 PM
I'll have Charlotte give her own action. We can assume she was so wrapped up in kicking a god that she forgot to relay the plans.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 06:13 PM
Do you think that will one day bite her in the butt?
>_> I was just about to write down "Dog bites back" out of habit when I typed down God and I realized God and Dog are written backwards so it oddly fits with Charlotte's theme in a weird sort of way. ^^:
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 06:17 PM
Its too audacious to fail. She's probably going to have Renny take a picture of it for her scrapbook.
He best not mess up that shot.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 06:22 PM
You're asking the closest thing the group has to a messiah figure to take a picture of you kicking a legendary pokemon god?
... You'd probably better off asking Mio. Renny is way on the other side of the formation. THANKFULLY!
Besides, how are you going to get someone to be prepared to take a picture of it, unless you tell them in advance that you're going to kick Arceus which, is not only damn sadistic in its pre-meditation sort of way, but takes away some of the impact of the audacity of it?
... Now that I think of it, I wonder why despite the group being much larger, I still stuck Matthias close to Charlotte, given his dislike of her. >_>
I should probably fix that a little...
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 06:34 PM
Fine no picture then take the fun out of it
Menarker
05-24-2011, 06:43 PM
You could try asking someone else. Just saying that asking Renny is like asking a fire-fighter to overlook an arson. Renny is still going to be shocked either way when you kick it.
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 06:46 PM
Renny isn't the messiah.
He's like... John.
And Charlotte and Matty must always be paired together. Always.
We should have another spinoff. A buddy cop show with Charlotte and Matthias. Hey AB, get to work on that.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 06:57 PM
I said closest to. I never said he IS a messiah figure. (And I don't know who you mean by John)
We already got a spin-off RP already with ESTOC. And I'm still hoping for the next sprite comic. ^^
Dracorion
05-24-2011, 06:59 PM
One of the apostles.
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 07:03 PM
John was the apostle Jesus loved the most. Or at least he claimed to be.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 07:38 PM
Ah, the poetic one of the group. Just thought it was out of context because John is such a common name is not exactly associated with holiness or kindness in and of itself.
And your example doesn't fit because just because John was "loved" doesn't automatically means that he's the sort of person that "loves back", especially the sort of way that Renny treats others. (Although it's quite likely he was at least decently kind)
Bard The 5th LW
05-24-2011, 10:19 PM
Jesus obviously trusted him with the well-being of his own mother, so I guess thats a good spot on his record. Unless he was an unreliable narrator.
Menarker
05-24-2011, 10:24 PM
I imagine he's automatically an unreliable narrator for writing the Book of Revelations. (Which is probably for the best considering the alternative if he was correct.) It's just an automatic tag you get for making a prophecy, especially along the topic of Doomsday.
But god, I didn't intend to get into this line of topic.
Anyhow, trying to write my post. Fairly simple approach for the post.
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 01:46 AM
You can take pictures and make videos using your scouters. It's all digital format and is immediately uploaded to your individual and the administrative (Irene and Shevenston) accounts once completed, so even if the scouter is somehow destroyed, the data still exists in a safe place.
Though part of the contract signed with PATCA does require that you not submit any pictures and/or videos of a sensitive nature to somewhere on a public network...at least not until the general media is allowed to have it.
Anyways, over to Menarker now: I don't think we even have a really concrete set of rules regarding Paradigm Shifts and SyncTechs. I blame myself for eating a bowl of stupid for breakfast. What? It's tasty.
I was kinda thinking 20 Rage cost per turn in Paradigm Shift (Pokebrid cannot get Rage from attacks dealt or recieved or even Rage Rockets).
Then...gosh, I dunno. Maybe one free SyncTech and additional ones costing 40 Rage, all with reduced effectiveness when not done during Paradigm Shift?
I guess it's a start.
Anyways, let's just all be glad that Pierce didn't die. If he did, guess where his ghost would probably end up...
Phantomere: "When I first possessed Charlotte, it was really neat. Minibar, waterbed, bathtub with things on the floor so I don't slip, the works. Now I've got this douche drinking up all the liquor."
Pierce: "Hey, Phantomere, we're going to need some Dr. Pepper and Cheez-Its. Could you go to the store for me?"
Phantomere: "Normally, I'd be annoyed and still do it anyways, but unfortunately everything in Charlotte's head is either a burning pile of aborted fetuses or a bombed out church. I don't think I can buy snacks at either one of those establishments."
Menarker
05-25-2011, 01:58 AM
So... one can't actually take pictures of scantily dressed or full on naked girls like those Jeanette clones with the scouters without Irene and Sheventon having a copy of the amateur porn stash? :3
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 02:15 AM
That's how it goes, though I imagine Irene is the one who really goes through all the files.
So, uhh...I'm actually kind of curious how she would take it. She probably wouldn't even give you a slap on the wrist. More like "I guess you're at that age" and a wry smirk as she deletes the files from the admin account, leaving you with the only copy.
Menarker
05-25-2011, 02:20 AM
I never said that Renny was going to do it! I meant hypothetically. ^^:
But yeah, sounds neat.
Could you imagine if Garus was in charge of organizing the camera data? He'd probably ENCOURAGE snapping such photos so he'd have a copy too, given from what you told us before about collection of porn exceedin several terrabytes...
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 02:26 AM
One thing you don't know is that if Garus isn't finding porn, he has a real natural talent of creating it. He's an awesome artist, and under the noses of even most of the Thirteen Eevee Threat, he does a lot of doujinshi with a broad variety of subjects. Makes quite a bit of money off of it, too.
Due to his...ahem, "choice of career", Garus is expectedly reclusive, and is really only friends to people who he feels he can open up to about his passion.
I imagine it'd be quite a interesting surprise if Renny somehow stumbled into Garus's room one find day.
Menarker
05-25-2011, 02:32 AM
^^ It's things like this that remind us how little we know about a good deal of the NPCs.
Anyhow, Renny being pretty straight-laced is bound to get that sort of reaction from many people. :3 Which is kinda why it's always funny, because you can almost always get a reaction from him. ^^
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 03:46 AM
In the event of making things easier should GMship once again fall on someone's shoulders but my own, I'll get to work on expanding greatly on the individual characters. Seriously, Laurith doesn't even have a personality yet.
Let's see...yep, that's a bigass laundry list:
1. New Character Primary Data (such as Miracle's Pokemon and whatnot)
2. All Character's Secondary Data (backgrounds and personality quirks)
3. Honmyr Regional Pokedex (wolves and worms and wraiths, oh my!)
4. Finalization of All System Rules (we're going full stats, baby!)
I wanna say it'll all be done by the time Pierce's Sidequest ends, but that sidequest really shouldn't last much longer. We should be going rapid fire to the conclusion as soon as you guys figure out what makes Ginnungagap tick. Then you get to prepare for trouble...
Dracorion
05-25-2011, 07:32 AM
Psh.
Have Renny come into Elizabeth's room unannounced on a Thursday, he'll be scarred for life.
And I can already see the headline for tomorrow's Fainas Inquisitor:
RICEWOOD'S EXPERIMENTS REVEALED
Anonymous footage reached our officer last night, revealing highly controversing evidence regarding distinguished Pokemon authority Professor Jeanette Ricewood. The footage showed Professor Ricewood creating two clones...
Now, onto serious business:
Am I the only one who thinks Sheer Cold is overpowered given that all allies and enemies are being treated as being the same level for the purposes of the RP? Meaning that Sheer Cold can't ever fail, even if it can miss, and as Menarker is showing Lock On makes even that moot.
Furthermore, a lot of Renny's pokemon already have Serene Grace, and his Trainer Action specifically states that it stacks with the ability. A lot of Renny's pokemon also like using Air Slash for the flinch, which with Serene Grace and Guiding Support becomes 100% chance. And it can be divided, so he could flinch two enemies for two of his own actions.
Bard The 5th LW
05-25-2011, 09:40 AM
Pictures from the scouter are no good seeing as how it would be first person.
Menarker
05-25-2011, 09:48 AM
Actually:
1: Renny has two pokemons with Serene Grace. Not "a lot". Even with Divided Guiding Support, it doesn't add up to anything more than if he was to send out both Togekiss and Shaymin. The most he could actually flinch is 4 and that's at the cost of 50 rage, which is less than what Pierce does with Chizuru's tech for close to the same cost.
2: A different pokemon has to forfeit an action with Guiding Support. Also, spending rage to make up for those actions will be costly. Rage will be a premium later on given other more useful abilities that get unlocked. So that means limiting the number of actions he can do to ensure that the one he does do actually works.
3: Flinch will require higher speed later on as per normal rules in order for it to work, so it won't be as easy to inflict as before.
4: OHKO moves are very powerful yes. Hence why for the movesets I've been working on, only a very very select few have any. Also, I figured that Jeanette is normally not available to choose in a manner similar to Rayleen. (She's not officially a PATCA agent and she is very busy with her own work)
On the plus side, I finished the movesets (although I do want to second-check it when I get the chance). Only need to give them items and then I can shove the results to AB and you guys.
I have also created stats of pokebrids and respective slayers (which is easy enough as they generally have uniform stats) for the purpose of AB's secondary data and so on.
Also been discussing rules with AB, and some of them are being slightly altered updated (Stuff like abilities that have no purpose on pokemons that don't have other useful abilties). Once again, I'll get it all compiled asap.
Bard The 5th LW
05-25-2011, 09:54 AM
The haunting thing gave me a thought. Could Charlotte use Phantomere to cheat in a game of poker?
Menarker
05-25-2011, 10:00 AM
>_> Probably yes. But many of the psychics could also cheat via mind-reading. Gambling Institutions probably gone broke trying to prevent the unlawful use of otherworldly abilities for worldly gains. ^^:
Bard The 5th LW
05-25-2011, 10:04 AM
Game corner still exists, but I guess slots and the like are a different category of chance. Charlotte probably doesn't care for slots, as there isn't anyone to beat.
Menarker
05-25-2011, 10:15 AM
Does Charlotte has a pathological need for a victim every time she goes and does something?
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2007/08/09/episode-878-vg-mages/
"I killed things. I feel better."
^^;
Dracorion
05-25-2011, 10:44 AM
Actually:
1: Renny has two pokemons with Serene Grace. Not "a lot". Even with Divided Guiding Support, it doesn't add up to anything more than if he was to send out both Togekiss and Shaymin. The most he could actually flinch is 4 and that's at the cost of 50 rage, which is less than what Pierce does with Chizuru's tech for close to the same cost.
Except that AB imposed the restriction that Pierce's tech with Chizuru can't be used all that often.
Further, given how long battles last, I'm sure you could use someone like Impact as a Rage Rocket whore.
2: A different pokemon has to forfeit an action with Guiding Support. Also, spending rage to make up for those actions will be costly. Rage will be a premium later on given other more useful abilities that get unlocked. So that means limiting the number of actions he can do to ensure that the one he does do actually works.
You WILL get Shock Trooper Configuration later on. That means 10 more Rage all the time.
3: Flinch will require higher speed later on as per normal rules in order for it to work, so it won't be as easy to inflict as before.
Shaymin has good speed in either form, and Togekiss is no slouch. Not so much of an issue as one might think.
4: OHKO moves are very powerful yes. Hence why for the movesets I've been working on, only a very very select few have any. Also, I figured that Jeanette is normally not available to choose in a manner similar to Rayleen. (She's not officially a PATCA agent and she is very busy with her own work)
Eh, I dunno about that. I was kind of under the impression that she'd be joining permanently. Should probably ask AB, though.
Menarker
05-25-2011, 02:09 PM
Not getting Shock Trooper until 6 levels from now.
A standard slayer or average speed attacker getting a single +1 stage boost for speed can drastically pump speed up a good 50 points, making speed changes considerable when it comes to Flinching success rate.
Yes, Shaymin and Togekiss are in a good position to use flinch moves, but the foundation is shaky.
Stop riding me about using Impact for Rage Rockets! We're near the end of the mission and we still got lots of items left. The use of one such item to enable a paradigm shift which practically doubles the effectiveness of a character where a fast rush is called for is a sensible use of them. I'm not relying on Rage Rocket's like a crutch.
Bard The 5th LW
05-25-2011, 02:55 PM
Whats the term for a trainer who is also a snagger? Or is there no such class combination?
edit: Mattias has just gained +3 points with Charlotte.
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 03:07 PM
I call them Pokemon Rogues...at least for now, I do.
The main arguement against flinch is that in the future, those who rely on it will need to modify their tactics to suit various foes. Mechs don't flinch, not even when fractured. Bosses usually don't. And a good number of Slayer type enemies will have their own resistances, especially if they're elite soldiers.
DanteFalcon
05-25-2011, 04:55 PM
I do have to admit the buddy cop Charlotte and Matthias would be extremely amusing.
Dracorion
05-25-2011, 05:17 PM
I'm not relying on Rage Rocket's like a crutch.
Not yet.
And yet somehow I suspect it'll be our opening move for many a fight.
I wonder how Matt will use that picture to blackmail Charlotte. Also,
Charlotte: "Talk! When is the assassination going to happen?!"
Suspect: "I don't know!"
*Charlotte stabs him in the crotch*
Charlotte: "TELL ME!"
Matthias: "I need five minutes with him."
Charlotte: "What?"
Matthias: "Five minutes."
*Charlotte leaves the room*
*The suspect lets out a ear-splitting scream of horror and Matthias comes out*
Suspect: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Charlotte: "What the hell did you do to him?"
Matthias: "I showed him an excerpt from my Golden Girls slashfic."
*Matt shows it to Charlotte*
Charlotte: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 08:02 PM
I think I need to make a rule that restricts everyone but the designated Medic to using items only on themselves and their own Pokemon.
That way, if someone wants Rage Rockets, they'd have to horde their own, though I'd allow them to trade items amongst themselves between battles if a supply resource isn't available.
Menarker
05-25-2011, 08:11 PM
Eh? What reason is there for that?
It is disadvantageous for those without pokemons because they are more easily knocked out and not so easily revived.
And what happens if the Medic is knocked out? According to that rule, no one can revive the medic.
Dracorion
05-25-2011, 08:13 PM
Well, maybe just restrict it to Rage Rockets, then.
Astral Harmony
05-25-2011, 08:30 PM
Yeah, that might work.
Either that or maybe have some out-of-battle person who could revive once or twice every turn.
Triage Unit class created!
Dracorion
05-25-2011, 08:58 PM
... More characters?
Bard The 5th LW
05-25-2011, 09:14 PM
Whoo!
Menarker
05-25-2011, 09:32 PM
Or alternatively, we could give some of the enforcer characters without such a role that duty.
I mean, we're already allowing characters to be put in the enforcer slot regardless of their primary role (at the cost of said ability for that mission)
Astral Harmony
05-26-2011, 01:35 AM
No, I want a Triage Unit.
It'd be like Valkyria Chronicles when someone dies. You have no way to revive them yourself, so you walk up to your fallen comrade and call up the medic who gets your fallen comrade out of there.
In fact, I'd like the Triage Unit character to be the only one who can revive.
I really wanna do it that way. Have a Triage Unit who can revive one Slayer or one Pokebrid or two Pokemon per turn.
Plus, we're not just doing Enforcer duty to other classes for this sidequest. I think that'll be a more permanent feature as well. They get to be Enforcers by giving up their abilities as special characters. That way, Renny and Pierce can indeed have Chizuru and Lola (both Medics) in the same formation, and neither of them even have to assume the Medic role.
Menarker
05-26-2011, 01:40 AM
Would PCs be able to revive other characters with their own items presumably if we do go with Triage Units?
Also, would we have another slot in the DSS for them? (Or outside if you consider them out of formation like Snipers or Destroyers)
Astral Harmony
05-26-2011, 01:47 AM
The way I feel it should be is that nobody BUT Triage Units would be able to revive with items. If there's some move out there that I don't know about, I'd allow that.
Triage Units exist outside formation (not part of the DSS) and technically outside of battle (so they cannot be affected by anything, including weather).
Now to think of the character that didn't already fill in my mind when I thought of it. Away with you, slutty blonde nurse with sunglasses and garters.
Menarker
05-26-2011, 01:50 AM
No pokemon move exist that can revive others. The closest to it, which fills up a pokemons HP, PP and cleans up its status revives the user to faint as a cost. (The two being Lunar Dance and its lesser version Healing Wish).
It could be worse! We could be spamming Sacred Ash! Which would revive and heal the entire party of pokemons with one single item! (Super rare considering that it is normally only found attached to Ho-oh so it is normally only attainable once per game.)
Heh, Shizuka has it lucky having Ho-oh in her possession. :3
(Is slightly discontent for having my Love-Tech being indirectly nerfed again) ={
Anyhow, Drac, you're the only one who is left to post before AB continues. ^^
Dracorion
05-26-2011, 10:39 AM
... Oh.
I was wondering if AB would fill in the blanks so we could the conversation out of the way before moving to the battle.
I'll get a post up sometime.
Also, about characters with other specialties taking up Enforcer roles: I dunno that it should be that way. We already have a crapton of Enforcers, and if we let other characters take up those lots then a lot of them aren't going to see much use.
Menarker
05-26-2011, 11:52 AM
You're not getting what I'm saying. Recently we're allowing people with specific roles to be put in the enforcer slot if they give up their primary abilities for that mission.
Right now, we got a bunch of characters whose only designated purpose is Enforcer. We can promote a few of them into Triage Units. Characters like Shannon or Ceciia or that sort of thing. That way we wouldn't need to make several more NPCs which would make it even less likely that other characters will be chosen and because they'd have an extra profession to be selectable as, they are more likely to be chosen, because only those select few can be a Triage unit.
Basically, we have a great deal of freedom on who our enforcers will be, but only select people people can become Shock Troopers or Snipers or Medics. Making some of the enforcers-only people promoted to Triage units make them more likely to be selected for missions because only they can be chosen for the role or we'd have to go without one.
Anyhow, I have put a great deal of work in choosing movesets and pokemon teams to ensure that other trainer enforcers like Garus and Shannon will be more viable to choose.
Dracorion
05-26-2011, 12:11 PM
I doubt we're going to have a lot of characters promoted to Triage.
I mean, how many of them would fit the profile?
And I doubt we're going to get even half of the Enforcers as Triage. There'll still be plenty left, and they won't see use because who wants to use Hector when you can have Irene as your Enforcer?
Menarker
05-26-2011, 12:38 PM
I see what you mean there, but I still think that after the update, people like Hector will have a good chance to be chosen if the mission suitably calls for their use.
The main reason why I called for Whitney for Enforcer was because I predicted we might need a sniper later on this mission and yet there was no actual sniper slot for the first while, character development aside.
Astral Harmony
05-26-2011, 11:42 PM
Okay, and that's all good, but the reason I came up with this whole "temporary downclass to Enforcer role" thing was because both Menarker and Dracorion were...ahem, concerned about the fact that both Lola and Chizuru were both Medics and thus couldn't be assigned to the same formation ever because formations don't allow for two Medics.
In light of this, we'll just hold off onto this whole temporary downclassing thing until the sequel, when it will actually maybe be necessary due to a suddenly very small team roster.
Or would you rather that we just give this downclassing ability to Lola and Chizuru alone? That's not really a problem, in my opinion. Anybody opposed to that? I'm not. Doesn't really help with anything but LoveTechs, does it?
Menarker
05-26-2011, 11:50 PM
I think to make it fair for everyone who is not me and Drac, that the exception should extend to all characters to whom a Love Tech has been dedicated to. So if Matthias and Charlotte ever get a love tech with anyone, that option to make them an enforcer is there too.
Naturally of course, this means for example that Pierce could make Chizuru/Shizuka and possibly a 3rd person as his options to sub in for his enforcer.
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 12:00 AM
That's a good idea...wait, do Charlotte and Matthias even have people they share LoveTechs with?
Too lazy to even have kickass powers. Pitiful.
I keed, I keed. Right, then. We'll do that and the PC can only assign his/her own "lover" as his/her own Enforcer and not be able to put it in any other Enforcer slot.
So sayeth the one that is more evil than Dracorion and Geminex combined.
...No, not Rick Astley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ).
Menarker
05-27-2011, 12:10 AM
Yeah... they don't have anyone to share a lovetech with yet... Which does mean that their strength will jump in leaps and bounds if/when they do get them. :3
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 12:13 AM
...Pfft.
Maybe Charlotte will have a LoveTech with Phantomere.
She'll go all .hack//g.u. and summon him like an Avatar, then go scythe the fuck out of everything.
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 12:16 AM
Personally, I think leaps in strength will be the least of our problems if Charlotte finds someone close enough to her to actually share a Love Tech with.
Menarker
05-27-2011, 12:20 AM
>_> Yup. :3 I'd imagine the love subject and any potential children would be the victims worse off unless she awaken some sort of... pFFFFFTT, Maternal instinct, HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Although I guess if Bard and Dante personally think that a Love-Tech would be out of character, we could just have them substitute for Signature Techs. It's not really advantageous since Love Techs do have the option to share rage with your partners or make them your enforcer...
But punishing them for choosing to not have a romantic relationship in-character when it is out-of-character to do, or otherwise forcing them to only gain strength by forcing specific PC to NPC relationship isn't fair. So I personally have no objection letting them make that trade whenever they reach the appropriate levels.
That way, Dante and Charlotte can have the same number of techniques as the others without forcing them to behave in any specific fashion to be as strong as the ones with Love Techs.
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 12:24 AM
Works for me. Certainly a lot safer than Charlotte using Phantomere as her love partner. God, that'd be awful. She'd be cutting people with a scythe that nobody else could see even with those scouters.
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 12:31 AM
Also, CharlottexPhantomere would be the most disturbing thing ever.
Menarker
05-27-2011, 12:35 AM
I'd hate to see their lovehate-child... or think of the process leading to it...
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 12:36 AM
Do they even have all the right equipment?
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 01:41 AM
Well, this is an RP in Nuklear Power Forums. That makes it so possible that it's probably already happened and it's actually Burkmont.
...
Which is actually even more impossible for reasons I wouldn't go into.
Menarker
05-27-2011, 01:52 AM
>_> Yeah, let's not go there.
Anyhow, AB, I'm in the middle of dealing with giving items to the teams, and then giving a quick double-check/edit of moves to make sure that I haven't given too many of the same moves or to make sure they don't conflict with their owners personal abilities or whatnot.
Afterwards, I'll go over the rules, change a few things like the speed issue factor and some of the new house rules that has been discussed.
Is there anything that you feel you wish to remind me about?
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 01:54 AM
*thinking to self*
Remind him about...remind him about...remind him about...
...
Make sure you get me some churros on the way to the store.
Seriously, I don't think I have anything else to add.
I pray I don't have anything else to add.
Maybe I need to add something about adding stuff.
Menarker
05-27-2011, 01:58 AM
Now that I think of it, one of the things that could use some clarication is regarding slayer weapons. I'm always wondering which slayer's weapons are special type and which ones are physical types. Some of them like Dragon Slave or Hydro Cannon is kinda obvious, but exploding shells and Water Bombs seem pretty ambigous sometimes...
So basically clarifying NPC and PC weapon selections would help out...
Also, some of the characters like the new Kimono members (the ones who haven't been indoctrinated in the bios) and other characters could use some additional description such as their unique abilities. That would probably change a few things, especially in move lists.
So naturally, if you could help me out with those, that would be awesome. ^^
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 02:47 AM
Will do, Bill Lumbergh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSantPzwdTQ).
Menarker
05-27-2011, 03:04 PM
http://therafters.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/lumbergh.jpg
"Oh, oh, and I almost forgot.
Also, I'm also gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too for the much delayed sprite comic."
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 03:09 PM
After the characters...
...and the Pokemon...
...and the UmbraLite post...
...and the Professor Landry post...
...and the sprite comic...
...and the drinking brainbleach to make the Charlotte X Phantomere idea go the fuck away...
...and the fact that UmbraLite was going to be how I sort of attempted to sidestep having to make a sprite comic...
But, to be serious, I did say I'd do them and I guess I had better. Not this weekend, too much stuff to catch up on. I just hope they don't go the way of Duke Nukem Forever.
Menarker
05-27-2011, 03:15 PM
Haha
Seriously, I hope I'm not being a pain in the ass like Lumbergh. I'm just trying to help. ^^
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 06:21 PM
President Beaufort.
Brrrrr...
Also, Menarker, since we're not using Defog to get rid of the toxic miasma, I assume that the plan is to kill Gransranx this turn? Because we don't really know how high his stats are.
He could have a base total of 2000. Which he should. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous if we can one-shot bosses. By which I mean, that kind of shit is just wrong.
Menarker
05-27-2011, 06:24 PM
AB already confirmed that Granx is in a totally weakened state and that getting rid of him in 1 turn was actually a likely possibility.
But yes, the plan is to get rid of Granx before he can spawn wretches, release maisma or unleash an Umbral Awakening like Phantomere did before he nearly snuffed it.
Ginnuagap on the other hand was hinted to have defenses that require more than pounding at it.
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 06:26 PM
AB didn't confirm Gransranx would go down. He simply assumed he would because one-shotting enemies like nobody's business seems to be our thing lately.
Which is still ridiculous. It's a goddamn boss, for Chrissakes.
Also, AB, can you tell me where the door is in relation to the enemies?
Menarker
05-27-2011, 06:29 PM
Well, it has quad weaknesses and we're piling on those weak points. The math I used seem to support it even with rather inconvenient randomization and high def.
Plus AB seems quite willing/eager to get to the next mission already.
Anyhow, I'm off to work!
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 06:30 PM
Blehhhhh...
As long as this doesn't become a thing.
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 07:00 PM
There are two large electronic double doors, one behind the PATCA formation and the locked one behind Gransrax and Ginnungagap.
As for the battle itself, just watch and wait. I know something Liz don't know.
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 07:07 PM
Gransranx is going to explode into dozens of little Gransranx bombs that will crawl at us and them explode?
Also, about the door behind Grans and Ginnungagap, could you specify on its position a bit? Is it between them? Behind Grans, behind Ginnungagap, behind the clones?
Bard The 5th LW
05-27-2011, 07:14 PM
President Beaufort.
http://end-2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/apocalypse1.jpg
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 07:16 PM
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Bard The 5th LW
05-27-2011, 07:17 PM
Also Charlotte will get a relationship tech but not based around love. Probably next mission, if not then her sidequest..
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 07:20 PM
Faynoc's chamber is right behind those doors. If you come from there, you'd be caught up in some events that would prevent you from going through said door and rejoining PATCA until they won their current battle and proceeded. You'd be pretty busy with the crazy shit that's going on in there right now.
Besides, Ginnungagap's got it electronically locked. Not even a keycard or a hacker or an EMP attack is getting anyone through there.
The idea behind Impact's team and Charlotte's team was that they took routes that bypassed your current position (Impact went through a parking garage and then down a stairwell while Charlotte used an elevator) and missed encountering you completely, actually leaving you behind while they probably think you're still ahead of them.
As for the door itself, it'd dead center on the wall behind the enemy. Gransrax and his boys stand to the left of it, Ginnungagap and the Ricewood Sisters on the right.
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 07:24 PM
Faynoc's chamber is right behind those doors. If you come from there, you'd be caught up in some events that would prevent you from going through said door and rejoining PATCA until they won their current battle and proceeded. You'd be pretty busy with the crazy shit that's going on in there right now.
Besides, Ginnungagap's got it electronically locked. Not even a keycard or a hacker or an EMP attack is getting anyone through there.
But what if I really wanted to go through it right now?
Ricewood Sisters
*Droooooooool*
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 08:43 PM
If you want to be on the other side of that door, I need to send you a PM.
Do you wanna be on the other side of that door, Mr. Granger?
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 08:48 PM
Yes.
Yes I do.
Red pill me, GMan.
Bard The 5th LW
05-27-2011, 09:47 PM
It is a sight not meant for human ears.
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 11:14 PM
Actually, I won't PM you. I'm just gonna walk you right into that clusterfuck in the RP. It's funnier that way.
Dracorion
05-27-2011, 11:15 PM
Yeah, I don't mind tumbling down the rabbit hole like a drunk blind hobo.
Bard The 5th LW
05-27-2011, 11:18 PM
Drac stop killing us.
Astral Harmony
05-27-2011, 11:20 PM
Expect a post tomorrow. I gotta read Drac's stuff and then determine how Point A connects to Point B on its way to Point C.
...
Man, that is going to be one pretty unholy clusterfuck. I'd better make sure Pierce gets some serious firepower beforehand.
Bard The 5th LW
05-27-2011, 11:34 PM
Charlotte sayz: Weld the door the shut and listen as they starve to death!
Astral Harmony
05-28-2011, 02:11 AM
Sure, if the facility self destructing doesn't claim 'em all first.
Dracorion
05-28-2011, 02:18 AM
Finally posted in UmbraLite. Are we supposed to wait for Dante, now? Is he making a character for it even?
Also, AB, Efficient Scouting and Tactics Operative Corps, maybe? It's the Sortie that you put it in that makes the name sound weird, I think.
DanteFalcon
05-28-2011, 02:51 AM
Kinda on the fence of making a character. I make characters when I get struck by inspiration. So far I got nothing.
Astral Harmony
05-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Dracorion's post suggested he joined up with the team. I'll just post as normal, then.
Dracorion
05-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Well, yeah...
Can I still go through the door, though?
Or hell, we should just retcon it. It'll be hell for all of us, but goddamn I really really really want to.
Astral Harmony
05-28-2011, 02:08 PM
You can't come into that room through the door behind the enemy, and that is final, buster!
Dracorion
05-28-2011, 02:12 PM
But
But but but but but
Moooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmm
I really really want to!
Astral Harmony
05-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Y'see, it's like this...
Dracorion: *speech and mouth flaps don't match up* "I implore you to reconsider!"
Armored: "Hmm. Okay."
Wait, how'd that work out?!
I guess it wouldn't take too much work to rewrite things that way. Fine, you'll be coming in through the door on the enemy side. No clusterfuck for you since you wouldn't have made it if there was one.
I don't wanna disappoint you but...you could have won a Porsche.
Dracorion
05-28-2011, 02:31 PM
Well it's not my fault I didn't know going in through the door early was an option.
And, look. I really want to see what's on the other side, for my own reasons, but you gotta do what you gotta do. And if you think it's best for the narrative or the RP or the plot or whatever if we don't start this mess, I'll accept it after one more whining post.
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