"Cowabunga!" or "F*ck Alla Y'all, Michelangelo Was The Best Ninja Turtle"

[Seil]

You know he was, those nun-chucks were both rad and bodacious. And he didn't look too shabby in a trench and fedora, either.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Donatllo was easily the most essential ninja turtle- his machines constantly proving vital to stopping the villains. All the other turtles were just like fighters important but not bringing any essential skills that the turtles would have been doomed without.

[Julford Hajime]

Donatello all the way.

[Seil]

Donatello was a total nerd. Raphael was the badass, Leonardo was the noble leade and Splinter was the wise old mentor. Michelangelo was the rad one.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Leonardo dual wielded katannas. This discussion is over.

[Gregness]

And he was never allowed to actually cut anything. Ever

[Aerozord]

And he was never allowed to actually cut anything. Ever

exactly, he wasn't even allowed to use his weapons properly and still smacked people around.

[Solid Snake]

I hate to agree with the majority on nearly any issue, but in this case the majority is just plain right.

Best turtle = Donatello. End of discussion.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

exactly, he wasn't even allowed to use his weapons properly and still smacked people around.

Donatello used a stick. He doesn't need no katanas.

[IHateMakingNames]

Best turtle by category

Preteen - Michelangelo. He says dude and skateboards and is radical.

Teenager - Leonardo. Dual wields katanas, that's teenager rad.

Grownup - Donatello. He's the smart and useful one, the most practical.

Emo - Raphael. Dark and frothy, usually seen underneath rain.

Favorite movie is The Karate Kid - Splinter. A hairy Mr. Miyagi.

Seen something past the 1987 series and movies - Shredder. The man is badass.

Uses the internet for it's main purpose - April O'Neil. She's the chick.

Really likes masks - Casey Jones. Wears a hockey mask.

[Archbio]

Is there no love for Krang? (http://teratophile.deviantart.com/art/Krang-209790355)

[Fifthfiend]

ITT nerds like the nerd turtle

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I hate nerds. I smash nerds Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddddddddddds

E: The other turtles were all massive try-hards, the surest sign of nerdness.

[Jagos]

And he was never allowed to actually cut anything. Ever

Read the comics. Have your mind blown.

[POS Industries]

ITT nerds like the nerd turtle
So what you're saying is you <3 Don as well?

[Solid Snake]

ITT nerds like the nerd turtle

You say this as if it's a bad thing

Also, despite or even perhaps even because of his nerdiness, I always thought Donatello had the best chance of scoring points with April, those two were close.

...In retrospect it probably says something about my very infantile and non-sexual approach to romance when I was a young'un that the thought of a human female falling in love with some turtle dude did not bother me at all when I was like five years old.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

As a kid when me and my friends played turtles I always had to be Michelangelo even though I wanted to be Donatello, based on how awesome he was in the NES game.

[Gregness]

ITT nerds like the nerd turtle

Sorry but, ITT = it's the truth?

[RickZarber]

Rob Paulson, the voice of Raphael in the 1980s show, will be the voice of Donatello in Nickelodeon's upcoming new TMNT cartoon. I feel like that's gonna mess with my mind a bit.

But then they've got Sean Astin as Raph, and Jason Biggs as Leo, so maybe that'll be the least of my worries.

EDIT: Oh, and while I'm not claiming he's quantifiably the best, Raphael was and remains my favorite turtle. That may be the fault of the first movie though, what with the focus mostly on him, and how big an impact it has on my young mind.

Also, has anyone watched the first movie lately? I bought the blu-ray, and it really holds up, to my pleasant surprise!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Rob Paulson, the voice of Raphael in the 1980s show, will be the voice of Donatello in Nickelodeon's upcoming new TMNT cartoon. I feel like that's gonna mess with my mind a bit.

But then they've got Sean Astin as Raph, and Jason Biggs as Leo, so maybe that'll be the least of my worries.

EDIT: Oh, and while I'm not claiming he's quantifiably the best, Raphael was and remains my favorite turtle. That may be the fault of the first movie though, what with the focus mostly on him, and how big an impact it has on my young mind.

Also, has anyone watched the first movie lately? I bought the blu-ray, and it really holds up, to my pleasant surprise!

What?


Nickelodeon's upcoming new TMNT cartoon.

WHAT!?

And Leo was better then everybody, y'all need to deal with it.

[RickZarber]

WHAT!?Yup! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877889/)

And then there's the Michael Bay-produced live action (with CGI turtles) film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/) reboot coming out sometime in the next few years.

The franchise is still going strong, it seems.

[rpgdemon]

Didn't Nick make, like, some crazy TMNT crossover, where the old school turtles met the new school turtles?

[Kerensky287]

Raphael was the best because he was a trailblazer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FABYGhzJ34).

[RickZarber]

Didn't Nick make, like, some crazy TMNT crossover, where the old school turtles met the new school turtles?

You're talking about the awesome Turtles Forever (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1543920/), and despite the Nickelodeon logo on the poster in that link, they actually didn't have anything to do with making it. They simply bought the franchise after it aired and then distributed the DVD. (Which was a total shame, because they put out the full screen TV edit version instead of the widescreen Director's Cut that had been streaming online.) :mad:

Turtles Forever was an amazing wrap-up to the 2003 cartoon though.

/thread wherein Rick knows waaaaay too much about Ninja Turtles.

[akaSM]

Hey Rick, I got that movie and it's widescreen :3. I dunno if this is the director's cut (the box doesn't say so anywhere) but, it says it's 81 minutes long. How long is the director's cut?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yup! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877889/)

And then there's the Michael Bay-produced live action (with CGI turtles) film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/) reboot coming out sometime in the next few years.

The franchise is still going strong, it seems.

This is either awesome news or signs that Micheal Bay is out to destroy childhood dreams in the most awesome way possible. Either way the end result can only be awesome.

[akaSM]

Upon a recent inspection of my movie, the actual movie lasts 77:30 minutes. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_Forever) says that the uncut version lasts 78 munutes while the DVD lasts 73 and the TV one 70. Guess which one I've got ^_^

[Aerozord]

This is either awesome news or signs that Micheal Bay is out to destroy childhood dreams in the most awesome way possible. Either way the end result can only be awesome.
allow me to correct with a quick edit from this
the Michael Bay-produced live action (with CGI turtles)

to this
the Michael Bay-produced live action (with CGI transformers) now do you still think it will be good?

[RickZarber]

Upon a recent inspection of my movie, the actual movie lasts 77:30 minutes. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_Forever) says that the uncut version lasts 78 munutes while the DVD lasts 73 and the TV one 70. Guess which one I've got ^_^Well, where do you live? Region 2 got proper DVDs. Region 1 only got the shorter cut. (Oh, and it was widescreen, just non-anamorphic widescreen, which means on a 16:9 television, black bars will appear on all sides, ie, letterboxing and pillarboxing, and the only way to make it fill the screen is to zoom.)
now do you still think it will be good?
Granted, this new movie will be Bay-produced, not Bay-directed. So I'd still give it a chance at least.

[Marc v4.0]

allow me to correct with a quick edit from this


to this
now do you still think it will be good?

Yes, because I like the Transformers movies he has done so far.

[BitVyper]

Fuck being useful. You know what happens to useful people? They get ordered around by the guy who dual wields katanas and work late into the night on something no one will appreciate them for while Michaelangelo is probably off doing drugs and bitches.

[phil_]

Raph is my favorite because he's moody and doesn't get along well with others. (http://www.cracked.com/video_18260_which-ninja-turtle-are-you-lifes-most-important-question.html)

[akaSM]

Well, where do you live? Region 2 got proper DVDs. Region 1 only got the shorter cut. (Oh, and it was widescreen, just non-anamorphic widescreen, which means on a 16:9 television, black bars will appear on all sides, ie, letterboxing and pillarboxing, and the only way to make it fill the screen is to zoom.)

Mexico, region 4. In the actual movie, there weren't any black bars/borders, only the Nick logo had black lines on the sides. I've only watched the movie in my laptop, Power DVD says the movie is 16:9.

[Jagos]

Granted, this new movie will be Bay-produced, not Bay-directed. So I'd still give it a chance at least.

So was the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot...
Yes, because I like the Transformers movies he has done so far.

... I am so sorry.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

... I am so sorry.

Both of his Transformers movies were incredibly entertaining.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

They wre full of poop, bum and sex jokes where the joke is referencing the fake that one of the above exists (John Tuttoro's ass!!! That's comedy!), racist stereotypes which made me feel rather unclean and were about 3 hours long only about 5 minutes of that which was robot-fighting which you could barely see and you didn't really know who the characters were and could barely tell them apart so you didn't really care about the fight- the rest of the movie being said "jokes" and dull human character interactions. I got nothing against simple action movies full of explosions and cool shit happening but totally none of that happens in the transformers movies. I just don't see what's entertaining about it- it lacks the character depth or sophistication to be entertaining as a drama and it is too padded out with superflous shit and poorly filmed to be entertaining as a robot fighting movie. A robot fighting movie would have been great, what we got was epic movie with some blurry robots tacked onto the last quarter.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

They wre full of poop, bum and sex jokes where the joke is referencing the fake that one of the above exists (John Tuttoro's ass!!! That's comedy!), racist stereotypes which made me feel rather unclean and were about 3 hours long only about 5 minutes of that which was robot-fighting which you could barely see and you didn't really know who the characters were and could barely tell them apart so you didn't really care about the fight- the rest of the movie being said "jokes" and dull human character interactions. I got nothing against simple action movies full of explosions and cool shit happening but totally none of that happens in the transformers movies. I just don't see what's entertaining about it- it lacks the character depth or sophistication to be entertaining as a drama and it is too padded out with superflous shit and poorly filmed to be entertaining as a robot fighting movie. A robot fighting movie would have been great, what we got was epic movie with some blurry robots tacked onto the last quarter.

I didn't like the stereotyping or John Tuttoro, but most of it is just light hearted jokes broken up by giant robots. I can see why you might not find it entertaining but really, I've never understood how you couldn't tell the characters apart.
You couldn't ask me to describe one Decepticon from another as far as their visuals go, but actually seeing them and not being able to tell "That's the chopper one", 'That's the jet one' and "That's the tank one"? Really? And please don't tell me you mean the Autobots as well. Because they're practically color coded.

My only problem was Sam and his girlfriend, but whether it's just because I was tuning them out the whole time or me misremembering the events I recall their relationship having a backseat to EXPLOSIONS.

[Aerozord]

I believe he meant their personalities apart, which would take some effort since even their transformations were extensions of their personality.

In any case I doubt you could call it a transformers movie. Its more of a movie that happens to have giant robots occasionally appear. It would be like calling Star Wars episode 6 an ewok movie.

[Marc v4.0]

If by 'occasionally appear' you mean 'desperate, far-reaching hyperbole cause lawlmichealbay'

[synkr0nized]

I've never liked Donatello. I've never disliked him, but he was always just there. And he's just as much of a moron in the movies, though to be fair they all kind of are.



But he was the best in that one NES game. You know the one. That staff was ridiculous.

[Fifthfiend]

Both of his Transformers movies were incredibly entertaining.

I too enjoy shitty indecipherable cgi and racism.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I too enjoy shitty indecipherable cgi and racism.

My, it seems we share common interest to the contrary of my previous statements.
What's say you and I go and find the lawns of minorities upon which to burn religious symbols?

[phil_]

Shouldn't you just take a picture of someone's lawn, then edit in some minorities and burning religious symbols? Then shake the video a lot so people know that there's ACTION?

[Archbio]

And it has to be sunset, so the omnipresent orange glare doesn't look out of place.

[Fifthfiend]

And then the church explodes.

[Jagos]

*walks away quietly smelling like fertilizer, holding a 20 gn gasoline container*

*whistles innocently*

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Shouldn't you just take a picture of someone's lawn, then edit in some minorities and burning religious symbols? Then shake the video a lot so people know that there's ACTION?

If by minorities you mean a giant monster, then yes.

[Magus]

Donatello was pretty cool.

Also his David is far superior to Michaelangelo's. I mean, seriously, Mikey, I think you missed the whole point with your giant-ass sculpted demigod, obviously that dude will have no problem fighting a giant. Only Donatello was clever enough to make his a willowy youth. Plus Goliath's decapitated head under his foot was pretty badass.

[Aerozord]

Donatello was pretty cool.

Also his David is far superior to Michaelangelo's. I mean, seriously, Mikey, I think you missed the whole point with your giant-ass sculpted demigod, obviously that dude will have no problem fighting a giant. Only Donatello was clever enough to make his a willowy youth. Plus Goliath's decapitated head under his foot was pretty badass.

Do you really want to use their real world name sakes for comparison?

I mean I'm ok with that since you know, Leonardo Da Vinci, just saying this might not be best way to prove your point

[Magus]

HUMOR NOT FOR AEROZORD.

Fine, you know what Donatello is the awesome one because one time they were all transported by this giant hovering interdimensional cow head that swallowed them and he was in this intergalactic space wrestling match with aliens and his wrestling outfit was the most coolest.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/471/1148330wrestlingtmnt.jpg
Donatello is on the left, clearly this is the coolest intergalactic wrestling outfit ever.

Leonardo's was second coolest. Raphael's would have been cool (in a BDSM gimp suit kind of way) if it weren't just an extension of his angsty personality. Wahhhh, I'm a better fighter than Leo but he's a better leader, waaaaaaaah. Ugh, such a terrible Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. Plus for the following issues Raph kept the gimp suit on after all the other ones had quit wearing them because he thought it was just so badass until it was finally destroyed. What a loser.

Mikey's was just terrible and I have to say I still don't know what the hell was going on there.

[Seil]

http://files.sharenator.com/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_by_nebezial_Epic_TMNT _Wallpapers-s1500x1013-109035.jpg

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I... Well... least they are not skinny?

I don't know how to respond to that.

EDIT: Wait those are fan made right? In which case they all look totally badass then.

[Magus]

Is this Michael Bay or just fan art?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Honestly it looks like something that might spawn from Bay's vision. Though the info on that image make me think it's fan made awesome.

[IHateMakingNames]

The difference in height annoys me, and that is not how Donatello would stand.

Also it's fan made.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Going back to the person wise, Donatello pretty much invented the Renaissance and good swathes of modern art. All the other dudes are later poseurs.

[Aerozord]

Hey guys, go to 4:30 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3604-Americana), this news to anyone else?

[Julford Hajime]

Hey guys, go to 4:30 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3604-Americana), this news to anyone else?

I remember seeing footage of it ages ago, but it was probably on some robot related board.

Because yeah them toitles get giant robots to fight with in the anime adaptation.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_Legend_of_the_Superm utants Clips of that have been around the internet for ages

[Lady Fire Dove]

Okay, I just had to stop in and place a vote for Leonardo, the leader, the awesome back-bone of the TMNT. He may not have had the inventor's mind of Donatello, the wit of Raphael, or the, um, pizza-scarfing skills of Michelangelo, but he held the group together with a noble-yet-humble spirit of camaraderie, bravery, and sacrifice. Go, Leo! Plus, as previously mentioned, the katana dual-wield is pretty awesome. And DaVinci is a rockin' namesake, as artist, inventor, writer, and all-around Renaissance man. And that turquoise blue color is the best, too. :3: It's my ultimate favorite color to this day, and I think it all started with liking Leonardo in TMNT. (Before TMNT, my favorite color was a more typical little-girl pink.) So, anyway, while all the turtles were great, IMHO Leo was (and remains) the best! :dance:

[tacticslion]

Okay, I just had to stop in and place a vote for Leonardo, the leader, the awesome back-bone of the TMNT. He may not have had the inventor's mind of Donatello, the wit of Raphael, or the, um, pizza-scarfing skills of Michelangelo, but he held the group together with a noble-yet-humble spirit of camaraderie, bravery, and sacrifice. Go, Leo! Plus, as previously mentioned, the katana dual-wield is pretty awesome. And DaVinci is a rockin' namesake, as artist, inventor, writer, and all-around Renaissance man. And that turquoise blue color is the best, too. :3: It's my ultimate favorite color to this day, and I think it all started with liking Leonardo in TMNT. (Before TMNT, my favorite color was a more typical little-girl pink.) So, anyway, while all the turtles were great, IMHO Leo was (and remains) the best! :dance:

When I was extremely young, my favorite color was red. Then I met the ninja turtles. Now, it's green and has been ever since.

As to the best, well, I always thought the dual-wielding katanas of Leonardo was unbelievably awesome, so he was my favorite, and, as leader, clearly the best. Except for Donatello, the inventor, nerd, and all-around awesome guy, who I think is the best because, you know, he likes to read, and so do I. Also, the staff in the game was the best thing. Then there was Raphael, who wore red, so that was cool... even though his weapons were kind of "meh" and the movies (and some comics) made him into something of an antisocial whiner. Michelangelo... not so much. I mean: nunchucks. Weak (especially in said ancient NES game). Special ability: being 'cool' and 'partying'. Hey, look at the two things I was never good at! So, totally can't relate. Finally, (and I admit I could be remembering this wrong) I seem to recall that he was always goofing it up for the other turtles (when Raph's antisocial behavior wasn't, anyway) with his silliness - usually getting them in trouble that the other turtles would have to get him out of.

Now, to clarify, I don't hate Mikey. In fact, I think he's kind of an okay dude. Just not as awesome as the other turtles.

So, what's my list?
1) (in alphabetical order) Donatello/Leonardo - I actually can't pick between the two of them: though I have more of Don's traits/likes/etc over all, the movies (at least the first one, to my memory) made him something of a Mikey-clone, personality-wise; and Leo's the leader I always aspire to be (aka, one wielding two katanas, while being awesome), and, you know, wears blue (which is slightly cooler than purple).
2) Raphael - he's cool and all, but a little too against-the-grain for his (and the teams) own good, and yeah, the black suit was a little weird (it was, if I recall, supposed to be all ninja-like... but was notsomuch).
4) Michelangelo - if there was a great fourth turtle, it'd be him. He's not the best, or most reliable, or most relatable (did I just make up a word or is my spelling simply mussed up by dyslexia?), but he's a decent enough guy, knows how to eat pizza, and pretty fun to have around. (he takes the fourth slot, 'cause, there's four guys. Raph takes second because... um... hey, look a distraction! *ninja smoke-bomb/vanish*)

[Aerozord]

hey, look a distraction! *ninja smoke-bomb/vanish*

that reminds me of my favorite part of TMNT movie. Whenever they threw the smoke-bomb and did the ninja vanish trick, the camera was always in a position where you weren't obstructed by the smoke. So you saw them actually running away

[Magus]

You know the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are actually pretty bad ninjas. They always get discovered by the Foot and often aren't stealthy at all. Sometimes they even drive around in a van rather obviously, and ally themselves with Casey Jones who is about as foreign to stealth and tact as you can be.

I guess they are still in training, though, except I guess Leo was considered a full ninja at some point by Splinter. I guess he is just held back by the others.

[Bard The 5th LW]

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/8/2/37382.jpg?v=1

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/8/3/37383.jpg?v=1

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/8/4/37384.jpg?v=1

[Magus]

The veracity of the original comics is kind of up in the air if you ask me.

Or Splinter is a really bad teacher. And senile.

[Aerozord]

The veracity of the original comics is kind of up in the air if you ask me.

Or Splinter is a really bad teacher. And senile.

as I understand it Splinter was just a revenge obsessed martial artist that raised the turtles to be devices of murder and thats about it

[Seil]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2irwu37.jpg (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/46311818.html)

[Magus]

oh dear God

I saw that on a Google search for news on the new movie the other day. Just...God.

Before anyone asks, no, it is not official or from the new Michael Bay movie. It is an artist's conception of what an actual real life humanoidal mutant turtle would look like. He did it in his free time.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Ah so that's why it's ugly as all unholy sin.

[phil_]

That would be why they wear trench coats, huh?

[Seil]

Ah so that's why it's ugly as all unholy sin.

http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/211_turtles_movie_3.jpghttp://jaymckinnon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Tokka-Rahzar-turtles-2-ooze.jpg

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Nostalgia keeps me from seeing those Live Action Turtles as ugly.

[Seil]

I just remember being upset that there weren't no rhinos.

[Magus]

Yes the replacement of Bebop and Rocksteady with the basically similar characters Tohka and Rahzar makes little sense. But Tohka and Rahzar are pretty cool, all things considered.

The creators probably figured that mutating a rhino and him somehow getting smaller made little sense.

[Archbio]

Having Rocksteady be the size of a real rhino or larger might actually make him intimidating.

[Fifthfiend]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2irwu37.jpg (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/46311818.html)

I like how the look of this one isn't really that far off from the "evil" turtle in TMNT II.

[Magus]

Having Rocksteady be the size of a real rhino or larger might actually make him intimidating.

True but they were dealing with suits and animatronics at the time, it probably cost enough already.

In the new CGI one they could do any number of extra mutants.