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Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 04:08 AM
Perhaps a car-bo-na-ted so-da!

I guess I'll just use this one to showcase pretty girls as usual.

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/Poke46.jpg

Do you want her to use Spit Up or would you prefer she use Swallow?

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/Poke39.png

Pretty Lilligant girl, because it's much easier than trying to make Gothitelle hot.

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/poke50.jpg

Actually, maybe any Grass type can be easily made hot.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 04:55 AM
^^ Well, most of them can be set on fire. :3 But yes, hot. ^^

AB oked the post, so it's up. Guess he's still working on his own post though.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 05:48 AM
Good Lord. I think I'm going to puke.

And for the last time. The plural form of Pokemon is Pokemon. No 's' at the end!

Every time I saw that stupid thing in your post it made me want to take a drillbit to my temple.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 10:20 AM
Oh geez, I didn't think it was nearly that bad. At least it gave a valid reason for Renny moving out with Lola later.

What part specifically did you think was the stupid thing?

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 10:24 AM
Renny's parents are retarded.

Also, it's a stupid reason.

And the stupid thing I was referring to was all the "pokemons".

Menarker
07-15-2011, 10:48 AM
Retarded how? Paranoid perhaps. Over-protective, sure! Retarded, no.

They figured that Renny was mostly going to be an officer fighting trainers and rogue pokemons in general and that PATCA was just "weird" and "unconvential". Now they find out he's effectively fighting terrorists, soldiers ready to kill and futuristic assassins (although the news report was INCORRECT about how the chief died.)

It's pretty like how Lola said the dangers they are facing are much higher than what their job description is supposed to entail.

But further more, they are also upset at Renny because he didn't tell them anything about that. Granted, it was fairly recent, since for almost the entire length of the RP, Renny had always been split up so he'd fight pokebrids and trainers in general. It was that other mission where Faynoc kidnapped Myrie where Renny found out otherwise. And instead of talking with them about it, he goes and pokebrid in secret, goes into a mission which was just bad timing (They are skeptical that Renny is THAT important that the mission would have possibly failed without him, especially since he arrived late) and after the mission is over, he effectively loses a battle against someone who merely lets him lives. They think his way of jumping into battle is going to get himself killed, as if it was some sort of game or that because he feels young, he'd feel he's invincible. (Renny is smarter than that, but he doesn't behave like a typical youth anyhow. His parents are behaving as if he was, which is RATIONAL.)

They are very much justified in feeling the way they do using information that is MOSTLY accurate (even Renny is unaware how the chief really died), for someone their only child who is underaged and is yet jumping into soldier status with some pretty questionable behaviors like leaving for a mission right after surgery. They also were part of the battles first hand in Renny's sidequest, so they know it can get pretty dangerous (blame "refuge in audicity" for why it didn't occur to them since PATCA did save their life and all while being "silly about it" like stripping in combat.)

Moving out is a bit much, but frankly, they didn't expect Honmyr to be as dangerous/violent as it turns out to be. Too bad they don't know that the circumstances in Honmyr are so dire that if it succeeds, it'll probably effect them no matter where they go.

So really, you have to explain why you feel they were being retarded. Because this is the way many parents behave. They are GOOD parents, but parents of a major protagonist (which by nature has them do unrational behaviors for the sake of love or justice or whatnot!). And from what I see, you only think they are retarded because you are using information you have access to as a player (practically everything) when I'm writing them out as if they are responding to what they actually know as actual NPCs (which isn't much!).

Basically they are RATIONAL but NOT CORRECT.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 10:56 AM
Well, you'd think they might've realized things were really dangerous when said terrorists tried to assassinate them in their home.

Also, letting their underage son take a job as what's pretty much Honmyr's SWAT is downright criminally negligent. Mostly because, trainers or no, Renny would be fighting at least cutthroat criminals.

The retarded part is how they waited until now to freak out, when, again, the terrorists came to their freaking house.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 11:20 AM
Well, more like vengeful cultists, but yeah whatever.
Anyhow, they were marginally fine with him fighting trainers, cutthroat or not. (Trainer family and they were confident that Renny was very good) But now, put in guns and such to the mix and that kinda shakes them up a bit. (Imagine if they came from a place similar to the video games where guns aren't even referenced never mind used, but is substituted with pokemon battles.)

They were on the winning side of that conflict which was predicted in advance and the battle was basically a straight forward mass pokemon battle. And without a single loss on their side.

Also keep in mind, they saw in the news Renny fighting Sexy with only his pokemons as his supporters. Not a very reassuring sight to see your child is fighting alone.

Well, like I said. Pretty rational behavior overall (despite a very generous vote of confidence before). But they ARE shaken up about the death thing. Before, it was pretty much a flawless victory. A death report in the same situation involved with their son that didn't get resolved with a victory... yeah, not so confident in PATCA anymore. They had just moved to Honmyr fairly "recently". They didn't really want to move before, but now with the vote of confidence gone... yeah.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 11:22 AM
Hey now.

Liz was totally there.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 11:28 AM
One supporter is barely much better. :3
And this supporter came after Renny did that all fighting.

Mind you, this isn't a fault of hers or anyone. Renny was responding "heroically" to the call from Pierce. Which means a great deal of risk and willing to discard a bit of rationalism (they were all already exhausted from the mission.)

They don't really see the heroism from that situation, but rather the risk and seemingly rash behavior. Or rather, they don't want to hear that Renny is doing "heroic" stuff. What he's doing normally for a living is already heroic. Now it just going overboard.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 11:43 AM
Yeah, sure.

Glory hog.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 11:45 AM
Ha! That's probably what they are thinking Renny is falling into. Now you got it! :3

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 11:49 AM
If they do, then that's stupid too.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 12:11 PM
:3 Well I was kinda playing around, but they are worried he's getting caught in the glory of it, as if he's trying to validate his unusual presence with his victories.


Anyhow, remember how I mentioned the parallel between them and Lola?

They both see Renny relatively frequently as of late. Lola as a co-worker and lately as an admirer, and Maria and Dominic as his parents.
They both see the same person, but see him differently.

PATCA's supposed to be fighting terrorists like Adonova and Pokegeddon but here we are, taking on giant monsters several times our size, advanced military weapons, experiments gone horribly wrong, and...this just isn't the kind of environment that someone as young as you are supposed to be exposed to!"

"I'm sorry. I didn't mean to insult you. I know you're very strong. I've seen it so often with my own two eyes, but this...if that robot girl was intent on killing you, she could've done it easily and I just...I don't know what I would have done if I couldn't save you."


Think of it as if both parties have said something a little like that.
Renny has not changed very much when it comes down to his kind nature despite leaving the battlefield with wounds. And even when he didn't have his pokebrid form, he tended toward a sort of idealistic optimism (more so than is actually practical perhaps, but that may be an appealing factor all the same).

Now, this is just a guess on an NPC, but Lola is a companion who has fought alongside Renny a few times and have shared similar hardships as he has. When Lola sees Renny, she sees someone who despite all this adversity and his inexperience and youth is thriving, growing stronger with each turn and who still keeps much of the kindness and idealism that often gets degraded in war-like situations. She admires this strength under pressure and continues to support it, although she still fears a situation where she might lose him or be unable to help him.

Renny's parents on the other hand, do not have that sort of experience. They had lived the generally peaceful life and sees Renny in much the same way. They know he's pretty good as a trainer. However, when they see Renny with his wounds from combat on a particular bad day (as opposed the pokemons like before), they don't see him thriving. They see him fighting a losing battle, each "harrowing experience" supposably grinding him down. And that where he is doesn't suit someone of his temperment. They would rather take him away from it, much like putting him in a greenhouse, than risk losing him. That's the only way they think they can help him, despite his wishes.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 12:32 PM
pokemons

Every time you say it like this a kitten dies, you know.

Here's a question: How did Renny do the Pokebridization proceedure without parental consent? I figure that'd be required for what could at the very least be considered extensive plastic surgery.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 12:41 PM
*Shrug* I recall AB said it wasn't required in Honmyr. Is generally an easy and common place procedure with minimal risks.

I found it odd too since giving pokemon powers which could substitute as weapons would probably at least require a registration/license. Probably helps that Renny is employed by PATCA and thus is using it for authorized law enforcement purpose. I just rolled with what I recalled was said.

Bard The 5th LW
07-15-2011, 01:08 PM
Renny knows a guy who knows a guy who got some things done without all the messy paperwork and clearances.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 01:47 PM
^^ Haha, that would be neat. ^^

Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 03:19 PM
Besides, don't forget that this is the Pokemon World. If Pokemon existed in the real world, I don't think civilian children ages ten and up would even be allowed to have one Pokemon, let alone six with well over several dozen in their PC boxes. You'd probably have to fill out assloads of applications and go take a number of tests and be given some kind of probationary license or whatever. And legendaries? Possessing something that dangerous would get you involved in some political intrigues whether you like it or not. Fortunately, the Pokemon World bypasses all that nonsense for the sake of crafting the kind of adventure you'd actually want to go on. Pokemon! Gotta catch 'em all!

...And perhaps a hot girl or five while you're out there.

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/Poke24.png

At least until that fucker Gary Oak cockblocks you.

I think what's driving Drac crazy is that you keep saying "Pokemons". The plural of Pokemon is Pokemon. Actually, the same could be said for all of the individual Pokemon names. For example, you have five Pikachu, not five Pikachus. I think that's how it's officially done, anyways.

So now Renny's a lot like Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

Renny: "Okay, I'll take you to see Terry. I get 20% and if the police start askin' shit, you don't know me."

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 03:25 PM
I think what's driving Drac crazy is that you keep saying "Pokemons". The plural of Pokemon is Pokemon.

I literally just said this.

This fucking morning.

Exactly this.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 03:27 PM
Well, not just that. I merely answered the one that wasn't superflorous.

Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 05:17 PM
I'm finally working on a fucking map. The map's going to include a large number of what I consider to be optional dungeons which can be done apart from the plot. I'm not sure if I can give awards to PCs directly for taking time off to go dungeon spelunking, but maybe I can do a little something-something for NPCs and most everyone's Pokemon.

After all, what good is acquiring all this power if you only use it for the sake of Honmyr?

Menarker
07-15-2011, 05:25 PM
Hmmm. How many NPCs can one bring along for these supposed dungeon runs? It sounds like an idea for fleshing out some of the NPCs in general.

EDIT: Pokemon/s issue edited.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 06:00 PM
I'm finally working on a fucking map. The map's going to include a large number of what I consider to be optional dungeons which can be done apart from the plot. I'm not sure if I can give awards to PCs directly for taking time off to go dungeon spelunking, but maybe I can do a little something-something for NPCs and most everyone's Pokemon.

After all, what good is acquiring all this power if you only use it for the sake of Honmyr?

I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Pierce is going to do 'em all. It should be clear by now he's the adventuring type.

Menarker
07-15-2011, 06:24 PM
I'd prefer an "errand sort of adventure", helping others out instead of "dungeon spelunking", since Renny isn't that adventurous otherwise.

Stuff like "rescue passengers of sinking boat", "lost travelers in cave up icy mountain", "aid a festival", "stop poachers" and that sort of thing. :3

Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 07:05 PM
*thinks about what Menarker said*

*write write write*

"Renny, Lola has been kidnapped by ninjas! Are you a bad enough dude to go dungeon spelunking for the treasure in the dangerous dungeon that they demand as ransom?!"

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 07:36 PM
Or, we can travel to the deepest depths of the Cave of Assrape hidden below Metal Hell to find the legendary sword Sexcalibur which will enable Elizabeth to defeat the evil Sex Demon Kfnpquaw, rescue Princess Aria, and obtain the legendary Night Thread which is the primary ingredient to forge the Black Inches which will allow Leprihare to use the ability Red Miles to raze both the land and her unfortunate victims.

Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 07:41 PM
...So, about Mission 5...

My first rough draft sketch of Honmyr actually came out pretty damn well. I wish I had a scanner or something to post it instead of a sprite-based version of it. Oh, well.

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 07:54 PM
Oh snap, did I spoil the mission?

Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 08:04 PM
The main problem with that mission would be that Elizabeth would probably never leave the Cave of Assrape.

Elizabeth: "You mean I can be violated in the ass all the time? Score!"

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 08:06 PM
To be fair, she'd either take all of it home or turn it into her own, decidedly hotter and slightly less deadly dominion.

Bard The 5th LW
07-15-2011, 09:29 PM
"stop poachers"

|Renny's POV|

Quest Added: The Most dangerous Game

-Stop poachers in the Viridian Forest

|Charlotte's POV|

Quest Added: Gone Hunting

-Go poaching in Viridian Forest

Astral Harmony
07-15-2011, 09:37 PM
I think I'm pretty much done with this Honmyr map. So far, these're the dungeons I've created:

White Wastelands: Located north of the village of Wintervale, the White Wastelands are considered by many to be the ultimate survival experience. Biting winds, a lack of food or warm shelter, and the mighty Ruin General Syndell would make you wonder why people bother putting mercury in thermometers used there, 'cause it ain't goin' up no how.

Tri-Scar Canyon: Created by Gaea when it fought Chroma, these canyons were torn right out of the region's northern edge like some kind of giant claw reached up from the depths of the sea and pulled the land apart. In the southern tip of the central canyon lies the entrance into the Fahngrest Imperial Ruins, currently sealed off by the Ruin Generals.

Miasma Mountain Range: The home of Balor, the Dragon/Poison type that Irene currently possesses. The toxic atmosphere is so deadly in some places that scientists consider it more inhospitable than if it was irradiated. The toxin has not only squelched the land of any possible flora or clean water, but has caused mutant vegetation and other strange occurances (poisonous crystals) instead. Bring your hazmat suits.

Abandoned Quarry: A tunnel system that was used to mine ore in the Miasma Mountain Range. Now it's used as the safest possible land passage to the Recycled City from anywhere else. Most of the quarry is closed off as it is not a part of the new passage, but some people still take the scenic route regardless...and end up regreting it.

Mystery Manor: Mission Two gave you a very linear tour of the place, and it's generally a forboding manor that is not even on the market since no one would think of buying it. Obviously, it's a home to numerous Pokemon that don't really care to be visited by humans.

Wingswept Desert: Nope, that ain't a typo. The Prideguard HQ is located here, and it is where many flying Pokemon go to get away from cold places and to build strength in their wings. The raging sandstorms here provide lots of good training.

Clenched Forest: In this forest, all of the trees arc towards some kind of epicenter. Nobody knows why they're all bent, most likely some kind of super gravity distortion, but otherwise it's home to a great many Grass, Poison, Flying, Bug, and other Pokemon types.

Bandit Jungle: In the days of the Fahngrest Empire, barbarians inhabited and assailed the empire from this sprawling jungle. Nowadays, the Crimson Amazons pretty much do the same, but their focus is actually more on peaceful communion with Pokemon and nature. They've been known to attack the various farmlands north of the jungle in an attempt to free the Pokemon there, particularly those that are being raised just to be eaten.

Corpsemire: Nosferatu the legendary Pokemon of the Shadow type and all other Shadow Pokemon reside here. It is also where the gate to the Kimono's netherworld exists. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of soldier and Pokemon corpses are buried in the murky, cold waters.

Old Pirate Fortress: An ancient and uninhabited pirate fortress from the days of Fahngrest, only archaeologists and Pokemon live here now. Judging from some of the structures, something else existed here that the fortress was actually built upon.

Shipwreck Graveyard: Submerged and mysterious during the day, exposed and creepy during the night. Supposedly, it was during the Ruin Pokemon invasion of long ago that these pirate ships were first sunk beneath the waves.

Colonized Beach: Not really a pretty place, but definitely a happenin' one. Happenin' with Pokemon, that is. From jungle to beach to shallow water to deep sea, this area offers a huge selection of Pokemon to catch, much more than any Safari Zone for sure.

Liviglyph Temple: You know that you can get the pseudo-legendary Psychic type Unownaut here, but the method for doing so is beyond complicated. Other than that, this is also the only place in Honmyr to catch Unown for every letter and the two punctuation marks.

The "Offlands": "Something is off about this place," one would say, and they'd discover how this strange place got its name. There are numerous disturbances here that completely change the rules around every so often, such as making the move Rain Dance cause a sandstorm or instantly killing something that healed during the previous turn. The tables can be turned and turned again in any encounter in this place.

Weapons Graveyard: After the two Wars of Succession, both sides wound up with a lot of crap that they could neither fix or do anything else with, so they just chunked it all into big above-ground landfill. It's a labyrinth of metal junk decorated with spent munitions. Beward as there are some dud explosives that could possibly still detonate.

Resonance Ruins: Strange ruins with a "sonic boom" theme to them, using tubes and emitters to solve puzzles by destroying solid rock doors with powerful sonic blasts. Nobody knows what these ruins hide, but Jeanette has a theory about a certain as-of-yet unseen legendary Pokemon.

Submerged Maw: A very, very deep hole. Glowing crystals line the massive opening, making it look like a big, toothy maw. There is also underwater fungus that also give off light, but unfortunately no warmth, which will be one's biggest concern...well, that and the large predators.

Devouring Catacombs: An old Hiroshiho Empire facility long abandoned. Used to imprison and torture those who would dare defy the emperor, but few of them actually used it. There's a good number of Pokemon here, but there are also some unsprung traps within designed to prevent escapees.

Now all I need to do is add some towns 'n' shit. Anybody wanna make requests?

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 10:10 PM
White Wastelands:
Miasma Mountain Range:
Colonized Beach:

I'm thinking Pierce has been to these places. It's just things he would've done while he was traveling.

Now all I need to do is add some towns 'n' shit. Anybody wanna make requests?

Aside from Impact's hometown?

I dunno. Milsha's hometown? Really, you could come up with any number of towns to serve as hometowns for so many PATCA members.

Anyway, I'd like to add two locations. Not really dungeons, just scenic places:

Gaea's Navel: Unknown if it has any relation to the Gaea. Could be that they guy that named it was just trying to say it was the planet's belly button. Anyway, it's a gigantic, deep basin in the land. Several rivers meet and empty into it. The waterfalls that cover almost all the edges create a beautiful view of many dancing rainbows for anyone staring at the bottom.

Name-not-yet-decided: Originally discovered by Tim and Iridia Granger, this secluded area contains the largest concentration of unevolved Pokemon in Honmyr. Turns out, it's because a large Everstone lies at the bottom of the river that supplies water to this place, and it's constantly being eroded. Tiny little Everstone bits end up in the water, plants and rocks that the Pokemon consume. No big mystery here.

These are just a couple of locations that I wanted Pierce to show off later on. Maybe take someone on a date to one of them. I might just combine the second one with the first, too.

Bard The 5th LW
07-15-2011, 10:19 PM
Jeremy has totally been to The Offlands or will go there

Dracorion
07-15-2011, 10:51 PM
AB, how are we going to do the optional dungeons? Like, are they going to be extra missions or do we do them during the intermissions?

Menarker
07-16-2011, 12:38 AM
I'd only like to request "Moonlight Cove" as a place that Renny has found/visited. (In particular, this spot was where Renny's Eevee evolved to Umbreon.)

Moonlight Cove: A series of tiny islands submerged underwater curved in a semi-circular fashion leading to a pristine beach with a very noticable earthen cliff layered at the top with fresh grass with a magnificent view of the horizon that can be access through a dense but pleasant park (or by flying). Curiously, there is always at least light rain at night in the entire location except during the full moon where it seems to appear 3 sizes bigger and all the clouds glimmer and flicker with silver linings and suspended rainbow drops as if the clouds are glass prisms refracting the moonlight. A potentially romantic spot although this location is also generally inhabited by water pokemon and ground pokemon on the beach, grass pokemon in the forest and dark pokemon during the full moon although never on the cliff which is oddly always deserted by wild pokemon. However, the beaches are frequently empty especially during the day because the chaotic and powerful tides and currents make swimming unsafe for the average citizen.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 12:50 AM
You're still using that word!

And yes, I'm definitely going to start nagging every time you use it.

Menarker
07-16-2011, 12:54 AM
Sorry, force of habit.

We totally need a place for fire pokemon like a volcano... or even better... I got an idea for another "dungeon".

Eternal Engine: An effectively abandoned (BUT OPERATIONAL!) industrial city that includes a power plant, a smelting station and several other "vital services" that are so ill maintained they utterly violates OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) regulations (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoOSHACompliance). A great place for electric, fire, steel and poison pokemon (mainly the man-made acid goo variety) among others that prefer to live in industrialized locations such as fighting pokemon.

Astral Harmony
07-16-2011, 03:32 AM
I checked out High School of the Dead. It's an incredible zombie survival anime. Hell, some of the time I even forgot about the rampant bouncing and panty shots. Those wacky Japanese and their silly ideas about what japanese high school girls look like.

I'll make sure to add those places. And of course I forgot one of my favorite ideas...

Metal Hell: An old, though not ancient, subterranean tunnel system located beneath Fainas Metropolis. Overrun with Pokemon and abnormal people, Pokegeddon is believed to hide out in this sprawling labyrinth of abandoned subway tunnels and unused sewer pipes.

Fossil Cliffs: A series of vertical climbs from the edge of the westernmost part of Honmyr, the Fossil Cliffs feature numerous fossils that are very dangerous to get to. Lotsa sharp rocks await you if you fall, but there are some small caverns in the massive rock walls should you need a place to take a breather or sleep for the night.

And the current cities in Honmyr...

Fainas Metropolis: the largest and most popular city in the region, Fainas Metropolis has many alluring features including all kinds of cuisine, the President's house, most of the region's most popular celebrities like Alphonsine and a good number of Pokemon to catch all throughout the streets. The PATCA Headquarters is here, as is Ricewood Masterworks and numerous other big industries. The city is so large that it features not one but two Pokemon Gyms. The current president is Matthew Andricksen.

Hiroshiho Empire: the third largest city in the region after the Recycled City, the Hiroshiho Empire was created by the descendants of the Ruin Pokemon invasion survivors. The current empress is Sakuya Kazetsubaki. Most people here choose to be a Slayer class before considering Pokemon training, and obviously you'll see the region's wealth of samurai and ninja here. There's a Pokemon Gym here as well. The Vorpal Frenzy mercenaries (where Lucian and Discord work) have their primary guild branch here, though few Hiroshiho people actually do mercenary work or rely on the guild itself. PATCA doesn't have a large base set up here, mainly due to Sakuya's hatred of them.

Recycled City: Not every great invention is discovered by the scientists in Fainas. The Recycled City is famous for creating the popular constructs known as Evoliths. There's still a lot of untouched Evolite and evolution stones in the mountains, which brings a lotta profit to the city but you'll usually never see the money at work. The city looks to be of poor construction, but that's mostly due to the people who care more about practicality than style and presentation. There's a gym here as well. Their current leader, called the City Chief, is Iris Waynard.

Wintervale: Sandwiched between the White Wastelands to the north and the Miasma Mountain Range to the rear, Wintervale is home to some really tough people. You'd pretty much have to be tough to live in this village for an extended period of time. It's popular for its snow-based activities, but most of the natives prefer to continue doing their jobs from hunting to mining to logging. A Pokemon Gym can be found here, one of the more dangerous ones to get to. Natalya Baskinova serves as both the village's chief as well as the branch chief of the PATCA branch there. Right there they're a little alert because the Fear Vanguard has been seen around there.

Farmlands: Located generally south of Fainas, this is a collection of several small villages connected to massive farmsteads featuring tens of thousands of arable acres. The people out here are highly disciplined and hard working and grateful for all that they get, and they all work just as hard as their Pokemon and machines do. There's actually a gym out here as well.

Sunken Commonwealth: A small nation in its own right, this place was founded and is inhabited by Water type Pokebrids. It's not an advanced underwater city like Rapture from Bioshock, more like some kind of mermaid kingdom where everyone works for the betterment of the commonwealth because it works hard for them. They have a gym here, but it's entirely optional. It's not like every trainer in the world would want to put Water Pokemon DNA in them just to go down there.

And really that's all I got. So obviously I'm gonna look at some stuff and get some ideas.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, Drac asked a question, didn't he?

I wanna say that you can explore dungeons during intermissions, but I have a feeling that not all five of you will agree to that. I have an idea where these "free adventures" can be done while you're also doing your missions using a separate thread which is during the same timeline, just at a different time.

For example, suppose Mission 4 starts and then...oh, Dracorion comes along and goes "I wanna take these chicks to this dungeon and I want it to happen during the previous intermission". Even though that intermission has already passed, we can still have sort of a "this happened in the past, if case y'all give a shit" thing goin' on where Pierce has his adventure in a separate RP thread while all five of you PCs are still doing your mission. Obviously, because this is a lot of work, I'd like to keep the teams really small unless you're all generally agreed on holding off on the main segment to do some adventurin'/saving Lola from ninja/finding the Sexcalibur thing together.

The more I think about this random adventure idea Dracorion came up with, the more I think there should be a dungeon called the Cave of Assrape.

Menarker
07-16-2011, 08:34 AM
I haven't "watched" High School of the Dead, but I read its manga which hasn't updated in a long time. It's pretty neat although fan service is aplenty, which isn't suprising since the author in question used or is still making hentai.

I'm kinda curious about the pokemon gyms. Are they going to have any relevance to the story or are they just there for flavor? There's 7 instead of the traditional 8, 1 is optional, and 2 of them are in the same city. Are they based on elements like before? Or will they be organized differently similar to how the anime did the Orange Island League which customized their gyms with their "unique philosophy" like team battle, survival training and the such like that?

Also, are the dungeons more or less free form so as not to take up your time crunching up numbers and ideas for any battles that occur? Especially if there are multiple people doing their own exploration?

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 09:29 AM
Right, AB, what about incentive? Like, are these dungeons just there or are we supposed to be provided with a reason to go there?

Like, maybe there's rumors of a new pokemon at Metal Hell, or a super-awesome TM at the Weapons Graveyard. That kind of stuff.

And new town idea:

Lake Blue: An oasis town in the Wingswept Desert. Probably a gym there, and other stuff. I'm just pitching this to AB.

Geminex
07-16-2011, 10:21 AM
Right, AB, what about incentive? Like, are these dungeons just there or are we supposed to be provided with a reason to go there?

Like, maybe there's rumors of a new pokemon at Metal Hell, or a super-awesome TM at the Weapons Graveyard. That kind of stuff.

In regards to rewards, though, it can't be something that benefits you alone. Cause these dungeons are supposed to be optional, that is, non-mandatory. But if you're getting power-ups for yourself when you (for example) do them, that changes balance in your favor, and our detriment. As such, we're getting punished if we don't do them and you do, and that's not something that should happen.

So, rewards by all means, but something that rewards the whole team.

A dungeon I'd suggest would be
No-Man's Land:
Miles of grim trenchlines, a relic from a past war between Homnyr and Hiroshiho empire, dotted with bunkers, craters, derelict war machinery and the remains of the dead. The grim stench of death still lingers, even years after the conflict, and the no man's land still holds danger. Mines and unstable munitions still claim victims among those foolish enough to venture forth, malfunctioning battle droids patrol the trenches and scan the wastes for targets, gangs on the run from the law, taking advantage of either country's reluctance to claim the land as its own. There's even tales of insane soldiers, scavenging the wastes for provisions as they wait for battles that will never come, shooting on sight, or the ghosts of the dead, stalking those that dare defile their last resting place.

With great danger comes great reward, though, and much rare equipment is hidden among the corpses, for whomever is brave enough to retrieve it, and skilled enough to survive the trip.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 10:38 AM
Well, AB said he didn't want to give power-ups to the PCs. So the rewards would be for NPCs, obviously.

Also, I think the Corpsemire is No-Man's land.

Astral Harmony
07-16-2011, 12:22 PM
The Pokemon Gyms don't have any relevance to the story, and anyone who had Pokemon at the start of the game could claim to have conquered them all. The only reason there's seven is because I just haven't created enough towns or cities for more.

But they're ultimately there just for flavor. Pretty much anybody who had Pokemon at the start of Umbral can truthfully claim that they've challenged and beaten all of the gyms. In fact, having done that is a great way to get your foot in the door if seeking employment in PATCA.

Whether a dungeon is stat-based or freeform may as well be left up to your personal preferences. Stat-based creates neat, organized battles while freeform allows for creativity and a lot more action.

I'll work on providing rewards for each and every dungeon as well as requirements. Since the rewards will affect some of your Pokemon and some of the NPCs, obviously you'll need to plot that NPC into your party if you explore that dungeon, or maybe not. I dunno yet. I just created the dungeon, after all.

And there will be a Cave of Assrape which Elizabeth will need to participate in to upgrade Leprihare if that's what you really want, Drac. Otherwise, you have some rather absurd moments to look forward to...

Violet: "These stalagmites sure look phallic."
Elizabeth: "Geez, Violet. Are dicks all you think about? You need to get your head out of the gutter."
Violet: "Says the one who has three of them in her labcoat, and one currently where I can't see it and won't mention further."
Elizabeth: "You should always be doing research into new discoveries. Oh, hey, did you know that they vibrate when their temperature increases past a certain point?"
Violet: "..."
*Violet breaks off two nearby stalagmites and stores them away.*
Elizabeth: "That's my bitch."
Pierce: "Life is hard in Honmyr where a giggolo like me has feelings of inferiority to a fucking cave."

I think there could be some rewards for PCs now that I think about it. But I don't wanna make the rewards so great that we put off the RP until every dungeon is explored.

*thinks*

An idea might be to have many of the dungeons off limits until certain missions are done.

Most of the rewards I have in mind will be stuff like better Slayer equipment (like a more powerful Dragon Slave), better hold items, unique signature moves for certain Pokemon, and the like.

Rapturous Depths (AKA the Cave of Assrape), Gaea's Navel, Everstone Lake, Moonlight Cove, Eternal Engine, Lakeblue Town, No-Man's Land have been added to the map.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 12:25 PM
Okay, y'know what?

Let's do it. Why the fucking hell not? It'll be entirely horrible, but goddamn now we've said it and we really can't not to do Rapturous Depths now. I couldn't live with myself if we didn't do it.

Anyway, Lakeblue Town? Really?

Astral Harmony
07-16-2011, 12:31 PM
Okay, just Lakeblue, then. I was thinking about giving it kind of an arabian-sounding name like Mariabah or whatever. It's in the desert, after all. I'm giving it a gym, too.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 12:33 PM
Anyway, I'd suggest a limit one one, maybe two optional dungeons per story mission.

Also, I'm still not sure how we're going to do the lead-in to finding out about these places and finding a reason to go there.

Menarker
07-16-2011, 12:42 PM
One last place I might suggest, but it's up to you... But I felt we needed something for the psychic types. :3

Grandeur's Crevice: A large crack in the earth leading a large cavern. In the first level are underwater hot springs which makes a wonderful and suprisingly safe tourist attraction. However, people easily wander off from them and head to the lower levels where the earth is hotter supporting the hotsprings above and aplenty with vicious fire and rock pokemon. The level below is unnaturally cooler and littered with crystal walls and stalagmites. However this level also seeps a gas which causes delusions and visions, although a select few who have gone there claim to have temporaily gained an oracle's vision, making this a place that psychic types and some ghost types would want to visit. Even more persistant is what happens if you fall asleep while you're in this region... Once or twice someone have reported having a vivid dream and waking up finding they had something of tremedous value in their possession... or having lost a limb... as a result of a dream that happened to be much more than mere fiction.


As for why we would want to go to these locations, I'd imagine the ruin generals probably know some of these locations due to centuries of hiding and they might know some reason (resources) as to why we might want to go there. (Marionetta might suggest the above location oddly enough. Or maybe she always hidden there because if the rumors are true, then submersing intruders into the mind's depth makes them more vulnerable to mental malipulation like she could.)

Otherwise, we could be searching "random locations" for a rumor of the last Progenitor or something like that.

Astral Harmony
07-16-2011, 12:46 PM
I'll figure out how to introduce them. Gawd, can you imagine how the Rapturous Depths will be introduced?

Newspaper Heading: FALLING INTO CLIMAX

Female archaeologist Kelsie Burnaby (24) was discovered by police after reported to have gone missing for two months. Her boyfriend of two years was worried that she hadn't made her regular calls and then notified the police of her disappearance.

Kelsie was found inside a deep hole that lead to a sprawling underground tunnel system. She was rescued and believed to be disoriented from malnourishment and overexertion. "Boyfriend? Oh, I forgot all about him. It's pretty easy to do that when you really get into your career like I do, or in this case when I let my career come inside me. I'll make sure to let him know I'm alright and that I don't really need a boyfriend anymore."

Grandeur's Crevice added to the map.

Menarker
07-16-2011, 12:54 PM
Why do I get the feeling that Rapturous Depth might end up being an actual PATCA mission with potentially party wide results?

I mean, I might as well list in order the people who might end up intending to stay! Elizabeth, Muon (from what AB tells me) for starters...

EDIT: As for rewards, may I suggest for slayers new accessories that are unlocked for all other slayers? Basically, instead of finding just one new item for that PC or so, the adventurer finds something which the scientists back at Ricewood can innovate to create a new invention. It also works better than just improving a single weapon (as suggested above with the "improved dragon slave") because then it would limit the uses of other elements which become lower in power and thus less desirable to bring along.

Am uncertain what could be offered for Trainers/Snaggers or Pokebrids that would not have to be decided on case by case basis. It might be easier to see what rewards are appropriate after some more missions have been completed and we see what the difficulty is like after the new rules.

Additionally, for all the classes, once a certain number of later missions have been completed, access to carry one Wonder Launcher exclusive item (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_item#Wonder_Launcher_battle_items) per PC per mission. Great to use for a really tight spot! I dunno though. They are pretty powerful, but it's a one-shot thing.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 04:29 PM
Muon (from what AB tells me)

... Just what is Muon going to tell Whitney about her feelings for Renny?

Bard The 5th LW
07-16-2011, 05:09 PM
rapterous depths

you guys are terrible people. I'll work on a location later.

edit: Me and Gem took the time to make this collab post, but then when I copied/pasted from the edupad it for some reason obliterated the paragraph and dialogue structure and I had to fix it all manually. Might be hard to read.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Yeah, I so missed Gem's bullshit posts.

I'm surprised Charlotte didn't ask what Impact even wants. I thought even she would know better.

Anyway, I do enjoy how Impact's pretending this is a big commitment thing, even though he didn't give Charlotte anything that actually matters and they didn't agree to anything real.

Bard The 5th LW
07-16-2011, 06:38 PM
No agreement of any sort really means anything to Charlotte if she decides it doesn't mean anything anymore. So its Impact's risk for whatever it is he wants to accomplish with this.

Astral Harmony
07-16-2011, 08:02 PM
Should have a post up this afternoon. I'm exhausted from sifting through sprites and backgrounds. But you do get to see a lot of interesting sprites that way. Romancing Saga 3 has got some pretty good ones that I think I'll switch the Final Fantasy VI sprites out for should I ever get off my fat ass and start spriting again after the map is finally done.

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 08:42 PM
I mean, it cracks me up that Impact's being so melodramatic about lunch. One could think it was because it was lunch with Charlotte. Otherwise he's getting excited about nothing.

Maybe we should start considering CharlottexImpact as an actual pairing. Dante, Menarker, thoughts about this?

Anyway, their whole conversation boils down to:

Impact: "So, I'll give you leadership if you'll work for me."
Charlotte: "Cool. So what're we doing?"
Impact: "Um... well, y'see... I'll get back to you on that."

But the part that really cracks me up is that Gem is trying to play it up as Impact laying the foundation for his world conquering.

Except, y'know, the way that's really going to happen is that Eldys is going to choose to back him up because he's a Chosen One, not through any of his own machinations. And Eldys backing him up means Irene, Rayleen and Sakuya back him up. And Irene and Rayleen backing him up means the President of Honmyr backs him up.

Eldys is connected, yo.

While I don't doubt that Impact is going to do a lot of work in the future, the fact is he's got these powerful, well-connected people to lift him up there in the first place. That's the only reason he's going to get to the top in the first place.

That's the bullshit part, by the way. And in the end he's just another Faynoc and Burkmont, only a slightly different kind of sick.

Maybe I would've liked it better if it happened after Impact met Eldys, I guess?

I do enjoy that Impact admits to his own lousy performance in bed in his own thoughts, though.

Bard The 5th LW
07-16-2011, 08:46 PM
Gem actually was worried that it seemed too dramatic, and I was admittedly a bit too preoccupied to give enough thought to say "Yo change it"

Dracorion
07-16-2011, 08:52 PM
Nope, screw that. It's done. Those are Impact's thoughts and dialogue and I will accept no others.

If it helps, Bard, you can have Charlotte throw all those things in his face at a later point, if you want.

CharlottexImpact OTP.

Bard The 5th LW
07-17-2011, 10:31 PM
CharlottexImpact OTP.

Don't hold your breath for it. Or on second thought, do hold your breath for it, see what happens.

Menarker
07-17-2011, 10:56 PM
I'm more holding my breath for the possibility of sprite comics again. I played Romancing Saga 3 before, and those sprites are pretty interesting too.

Ah well. Between the posts, the maps, and sprite comics, there are is a lot to look forward to.

Would be nice if we could get a response from Matthias. It's almost as if he's trying to sneak under our radar for something... interesting. =P

Dracorion
07-17-2011, 11:00 PM
Or it's just, y'know, Dante doing his mysterious Dante thing.

Astral Harmony
07-18-2011, 01:43 AM
Eldys ain't that connected. Rayleen doesn't even know who she is. Neither does the president. And they're not going to get a chance to get acquainted with her during this RP.

And how Impact gains power is pretty much how most people do it. Not everyone is born talented. Just like Dinner, Impact is going to happen across power.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not how one gains power, it's how one uses it. And that's what we really should be judging. Geminex says that Impact isn't an evil character, and even though Impact will control the region, this isn't a straight up evil thing to do, for which the sequel will point out why. Although it could and shall be interpreted as such by those who will end up opposing him, but there's no really helping that.

Besides, the other side of the game board isn't going to be all halos and togas, either. I gots plans, yo.

EDIT: Nevermind, I finally just read that post. Impact is starting to scare me.

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 06:56 AM
EDIT: Nevermind, I finally just read that post. Impact is starting to scare me.

Hah!

EDIT: AB, did all the Kimonos (minus Fujiko, I guess) arrive with Shizuka?

And are they at the funeral?

And, is there any way we can just assume that the story of why Pierce went alone to Millenium House got out through rumors and hearsay, so that everyone on the Watchmen knows? I originally intended for Pierce to come clean publicly, but the way everything turned out means he's too torn up to bother.

DanteFalcon
07-18-2011, 11:34 AM
Just to prevent anymore questions on it, Matt is going to look into Pierce's background.

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 11:41 AM
Well, I don't think there's anything left that I don't want made public knowledge.

Except for that one thing, but that's more about Elizabeth.

Oh, and AB, that's Enmakki doing the Pierce-dream thing on Irene and Chizuru. Definitely the last time.

DanteFalcon
07-18-2011, 11:46 AM
Alright then that's all he'd find. I had a feeling that was all of it but my paranoid character there doesn't like to let things go.

Menarker
07-18-2011, 11:46 AM
Which should be interesting since Pierce is trying to desseminate a good deal of that information to all of PATCA. Will Dante be looking into all the members for the sake of being through or just into the ones he has reasons to be suscpious of? (Just asking in case you want me to provide some side-information on my character and his family)

@Drac: To which I might suggest a distributed memo or a message from Irene (or Pierce if he still has the will/strength) forwarded to all the relevant scouters (using Irene to get all the contact numbers)?

I'm getting a Velma vibe (from Scooby Doo) from Sophia btw. :3 With a helping of "Shrinking Violet".

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 11:52 AM
That'd be an awkward as hell conversation. Or maybe not.

Pierce: "Hey boss, can you send all the details of my shady past to everyone on the team as a corporate memo? kthx"
Irene: "Fo' shizzle dizzle, broheim."

Sophia's glasses aren't quite as nerdy as Velma's. They're just small wire-framed ones and she can see fairly decently without them.

Menarker
07-18-2011, 11:59 AM
AB, should we assume that the other Kimonos went with Shizuka (who went with Irene) during the messhall scene? You said they left Renny and Lola alone, as opposed to everyone else but Shizuka staying (Irene only called for Shannon, Jeanette and Shizuka although Mika probably would have went since it was her revealing that she figured out Shannon's situation that kinda prompted the latter conversation.)

I'm curious to whether Kirie would have any insight in Shannon's recent situation, also possessing angel wings and a sword. It might not be the same thing, but it did strike me as interesting considering the rather unexplained nature of angels in the first place when demons and shadow spirits have been more fleshed out on. (Then again, Kirie isn't exactly gifted in the mental side... she might not be of much help.)

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 12:06 PM
Might get a little crowded in Irene's office with all the Kimonos.

Seriously there's like ten of 'em.

Menarker
07-18-2011, 12:12 PM
Hehe, yeah.

I could understand if some of the newer ones who have not been introduced yet went though, like Takano.

AB: BTW, color in the post's text has never been a problem with me. If anything, it made the character's speaking stick out. It's pretty much up to you though. :3

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 12:17 PM
Yeah, I don't have any trouble figuring out who's talking, but it might help others to have characters speaking color-coded for convenience.

DanteFalcon
07-18-2011, 12:18 PM
Menarker if Matt goes into a huge searching spree on all the characters, Renny is the last one on that list.

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 12:20 PM
Darcy literally has no background and she's still higher on the list than Renny.

Menarker
07-18-2011, 12:23 PM
More likely she might not even be on his list, seeing as Matthias saw the moment of her "birth". There is really nothing to suspect unless he is suspcious of how Jeanette is rearing her development.

Of course, maybe Matthias would be interested in how Faynoc built her or so. *Shrug*

Bard The 5th LW
07-18-2011, 12:24 PM
Thats not enough info for Matt's state of mind.

edit: also cloning totally doesn't work like that and she had to be born like everyone else i dont care if its fiction

DanteFalcon
07-18-2011, 12:27 PM
also cloning totally doesn't work like that and she had to be born like everyone else i dont care if its fiction

This. A hundred times this.

Astral Harmony
07-18-2011, 02:19 PM
Okay, everybody officially knows about Pierce's past now. As for my part of it, I'm not going to have any of the NPCs talk to him about it (not even Natalya, who is available to talk to at this point) unless Pierce wants to discuss it first.

Shizuka is the only Kimono busy with Irene. Fujiko is around, but isn't exactly present for obvious reasons, and of course Dinner isn't available. Plop a Kimono wherever and whenever y'want to for some dialogue if y'feel like it.

Next post I'll probably go back to colors. Despite the fact that many characters share colors with someone else, or several people, it does kind of help in determining who is saying what.

Next post will most likely involve Renny and Lola meeting with Milsha. Then the classified meeting. Then Irene, Kurika and a few others giving Renny a little sparring lesson while Chizuru gives Pierce his sparring lesson. And of course I won't forget the wacky dreams. Maybe even do the whole Whitney X Muon Muon helps Whitney understand her feelings bit. Time to have a little fun with fantasy.

Menarker
07-18-2011, 02:37 PM
Okay, everybody officially knows about Pierce's past now.

I don't see an edit. Or are you putting it in the next post or just want us to assume somewhere down the line we all got the memo?

Making small-ish post.

Was thinking of having Renny talk to Pierce about the battle with Sexy (since he was responding to Pierce's call.) He'd also mention about this woman he didn't know who helped him out (Liz). If Pierce tells Renny about that, Renny would probably ask Pierce to thank her on his behalf or something.
So I'll leave it up to you if Pierce wants to talk to Renny to open that up. Otherwise, I guess Renny can just meet and thank her at Pierce's party.

Dracorion
07-18-2011, 03:02 PM
I think you're just supposed to assume that Renny magically heard the story somehow, Menarker.

And since it appears we're moving on past the funeral with the next post, I've added a small bit to my post to have Pierce meet Natalya.

Next post will most likely involve Renny and Lola meeting with Milsha. Then the classified meeting. Then Irene, Kurika and a few others giving Renny a little sparring lesson while Chizuru gives Pierce his sparring lesson.

Well, I was going to have Pierce ask Irene and Chizuru for training shortly after the funeral, which was when his leg would finally mend.

So I guess you should add Irene giving Pierce a lesson to that list?

Was thinking of having Renny talk to Pierce about the battle with Sexy (since he was responding to Pierce's call.) He'd also mention about this woman he didn't know who helped him out (Liz). If Pierce tells Renny about that, Renny would probably ask Pierce to thank her on his behalf or something.
So I'll leave it up to you if Pierce wants to talk to Renny to open that up. Otherwise, I guess Renny can just meet and thank her at Pierce's party.

Pierce should have a basket of berries for Renny in my next post. Where the conversation goes from there, we'll see.

Astral Harmony
07-18-2011, 04:04 PM
I'm not going to do an edit. Drac is right in that doing some kind of memo would be awkward so we're doing more of a "well, she said that her brother found out about what this guy Pierce did" rumor pass along that won't be mentioned in the RP itself. Just assume that you know about it.

Irene added to the "let's put the beat up sequel protagonist back in the hospital" list.

Menarker
07-18-2011, 07:13 PM
Just a heads-up, I figured that Renny would probably want the sparring after he moves in (or at least secures a place to stay). He'll be too worried about his circumstances otherwise.

Astral Harmony
07-19-2011, 12:15 AM
Hell, while you're at it, ask Milsha for some sparring. Country gals, especially ones with technologically advanced mechanical greatswords, are tough.

Menarker
07-19-2011, 01:51 AM
Right... but it'll have to be Renny dodging for the most part! A sword made of hardened flesh is probably not going to block reinforced titanium or whatever it's made of... I mean, I could try, hoping that adding psychic energy to it would make it withstand physical trauma similar to one lightsaber blocking another...

But what if I'm wrong!?

*SC-LITCH!* "ARRRGH! NO!!!! THE ARM I USE TO... WRITE WITH!"

Renny is kinda different from everyone else who has/will take slayer levels because he's basically going for martial arts and being able to improve his body/senses as opposed to weapon usage. Of course, Renny's options are kinda limited. :3

*Shrug*

Astral Harmony
07-19-2011, 02:30 AM
You're scared of the country gal...so you're going to ask Kurika the Muay Thai master to tutor you?

Yes, this speaks of sound logic.

Sorry that the post is shitty. I thought I was gonna go over my character limit. I might actually do another post tonight to cope with it.

Dracorion
07-19-2011, 07:21 AM
Whatever happened to Natalya's accent? She used to be, like, fantasy Russian.

And Sophie doesn't have anything to do with the Hiroshiho Empire and she's not like a fan or anything.

She's just really geeky. Or maybe her mother was from Hiroshiho. You don't know.

Astral Harmony
07-19-2011, 02:16 PM
There, I changed the W's into V's. I'm terrible with accent. Country slang, sure I can do that, but accents aren't my forte.

Menarker
07-19-2011, 03:04 PM
I get that's what she wants and all, but is she mature enough to make that kind of decision? It's just... kids shouldn't be risking their lives for us. It's hard enough just watching Mio fight." He said resignedly.

It's kinda funny that Pierce would say that with Renny being in the group. Granted, she is much younger and should be allowed to live peacefully given her years of being restrained and experimented on...

But it seemed odd/funny. :3 For all I know Jeanette is going to point at Renny and Pierce is going to flinch at the counter example or say something to the effect of "he's not really a kid" in a sort of "not a true scotsman" argument.


Missed an accent during that big meeting btw AB, but it's hardly worth making the edit to change weather to veather. :3

Dracorion
07-19-2011, 03:13 PM
Renny's seventeen as opposed to ten.

And Dante, Matthias might be interested to know that Pierce took a couple of courses at Honmyr's Combat College (note to self: think of better name). It's basically Honmyr's version of the trainer schools from the games, only this one teaches more than just pokemon battles because Honmyr is more dangerous.

It's where Pierce picked up his rudimentary martial arts and swordfighting skills.

By the way, AB, I always figured Wintervale was more of a small city than some podunk village. At the very least, it was a town big enough to have a thriving crime syndicate and a Ricewood Masterworks branch.

Astral Harmony
07-19-2011, 04:21 PM
More like a town, I'd say. The jobs that Ricewood Masterworks and such brought in didn't cause much of a boom as it did to cities like Fainas.

Anyways, tomorrow is an off day for us here in Guam. Liberation Day, they call it. I don't care for history much, but I guess it's the day when America came along and booted the Japanese from the island during what I assume was WWII. Parades ensue and whatnot.

In other words, lotsa time to do Umbral stuff like finish the guide and get some fun shit (sparring, dreams, Impact meets Eldys, etc.) done.

Dracorion
07-19-2011, 04:52 PM
That's Professor Ricewood to Renny.

Also, Menarker, quit mackin' on mah girls. Do you see Pierce buttin' into Renny and Lola's conversations?

Menarker
07-19-2011, 05:04 PM
Renny is not "macking" on Jeanette. He's just being open and supportive about her loss, while asking/apologizing about someone he is responsible in large parts for. A funeral is a social gathering, so it's quite a legit circumstance for it.

Besides, there isn't really anyone else to talk to at this point, unless Catherine/Miracle wished to talk to him about his attempt to fight Sexy.

And note I put Renny talking to Jeanette after Pierce moved on to Natalya.

Dracorion
07-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Aside from overestimating Renny's involvement with Darcy, you could always invent someone to talk to. AB didn't say Jeanette was at the funeral, I put her there.

Menarker
07-19-2011, 05:54 PM
Ah. I didn't think of doing that because Milsha wasn't there. So by precedent, I didn't want to assume anyone else was there in case AB didn't intend for said person to be present.

Anyhow, I'm not overestimating his involvement with Darcelle at all. Mollesk's action was quite over the top, it converted someone (a mechanic that does not exist and had not been successful before), and now it's Jeanette's responsibility though no fault of her own. It's a good thing that Darcelle is a wonderful person or Jeanette might be pissed at Renny. ^^; Renny himself didn't do anything, but since he's responsible for Mollesk, if there is any blame, it pretty much falls on him. ^^;

Dracorion
07-19-2011, 06:37 PM
Well, there are some people you could reasonably assume would be there.

Milsha, Harliette, Heidi and Kurika, no. Callisto, Evangaleen, Garus, Hector, Angelo and Rachel, don't know. Whitney, Muon and Bretton, probably not. Sakuya, Silk, Mio, Moon, Shannon, Mirror, Cecilia, and Wilhelmina, I'm guessing yes.

The Kimonos are a mystery, but I'd jot down Shizuka, Chizuru, Tsubasa, Mika and Kiyomi as maybes.

Menarker
07-20-2011, 12:38 AM
Small edit to my post to add a small conversation from Renny to Irene, mainly asking how Rayleen is doing.

Astral Harmony
07-20-2011, 04:11 AM
One or two posts tomorrow. Exhausted myself talking to Geminex and Menarker about various important things.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 07:19 AM
Great. Thanks a lot you jerks.

I guess Menarker was discussing rules with AB, which is acceptable. But I know Gem was just arguing about how Impact isn't at all evil and creepy and about how he should win forever.

Can we get a rule that says chumps aren't allowed to fakequit or else we kill their characters?

Menarker
07-20-2011, 10:34 AM
I did discuss rules and updates which is now only practically a step or two away from total completion. Which will prevent the RP from stalling at the point where Irene was going to present the new combat regulations (new rules)

According to AB, Morale system is still in but is modified. Dunno how. He's doing that himself.

The biggest change by far is the removal of Testament Drives.

But otherwise, characters were being filled in with their respective details. ^^

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 11:08 AM
Which reminds me, are the rest of us only going to get our first look at the new system when Irene's tutorial comes?

Astral Harmony
07-20-2011, 02:48 PM
Sure. Whether you're physically there or not is up to you, but you can say that you know about it regardless of being there or not. Watchmen like to rabble-rabble-rabble, y'know.

Morale is going to be awarded or penalized at the end of the turn like usual based on the performance of both sides.

The new system is pretty simple. First we'll start each turn with an Order Phase which will show us the order of actions taken based on the Speed stat of all Players and pimps enemies present at the start of the turn. The first Order Phase (a rough draft) will just show enemies. Then you guys decide what you'll be bringing to the party and then I'll add your units to the finalized Order Phase and you guys'll confirm it. It'll look like this:

[Free Actions and Items]
[This Asshole = Speed 245]
[That Fucker = Speed 220]
[Some Bimbo = Speed 180]
[Did You Say "Steak"? = Speed 25]

And so on and so forth. Note that you have the option of doing your Trainer Actions, Tactical Actions, Pokemon switching, Pokeform switching, Paradigm Shifting, Enforcer switching, item using, berry eating, Slayer accessory usage, yadda-yadda-yadda before all the real attacking action takes place. You can do some of it later, but you cannot switch yourself or your Pokemon out when the Order Phase ends. Your formation at the end of the Order Phase once you've confirmed it is set in stone until the end of the Upkeep Phase.

One thing you'll be interested in knowing is that if you want to make certain allied units attack later in the order queue, you can artificially slow 'em down to make 'em act later, no problem or penalty. But if you want 'em to attack sooner, you'll have to boost their Speed stat somehow. Depending on certain battle situations based on the plot, you may have the chance to boost your Speed before you even enter combat, obviously putting you at an advantage. Just note that your enemy has the same possibilities available.

Another thing I'm sure one of you will ask about the Order Phase: I'll post the next turn's Order Phase after the Upkeep Phase based on what's on the battlefield once the Upkeep Phase is over. That's only a rough draft and is subject to change when you switch stuff out. For example, suppose Pierce has a slow Pokemon deployed at the end of the previous Upkeep Phase. He chooses to switch it out for a faster Pokemon. That Pokemon will not be trapped in the same position in the order queue as the slow one was and will of course be positioned where it belongs based on its Speed stat. Same for if you switch a fast Pokemon out for a slower one. Then it goes down the order queue. But just remember what I said before: once the Order Phase ends, you can no longer switch it out until the current turn's Upkeep Phase finishes and you're looking at the next turn's Order Phase rough draft.

Once we're decided on the Order Phase, it's finalized and we then go into the Action Phase where the actions are carried out based on the finalized Order Phase.

After that's the Upkeep Phase where pretty much everything else happens (weather damage, status effect damage, morale rewards or penalties, enemy reinforcements, the next turn's Order Phase rough draft).

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So, in a nutshell, it works like this:

1st Turn: Order Phase showing only enemies, you guys discuss it and decide how you deploy, finalized Order Phase showing both formations, you guys confirm this, Action Phase, Upkeep Phase, next turn's Order Phase rough draft.

2nd Turn and Onward: You guys discuss the rough draft and decide how you redeploy, finalized Order Phase, you guys confirm this, Action Phase, Upkeep Phase, next turn's Order Phase rough draft.

And obviously the battle ends when you defeat the enemy during the Action Phase or when something else defeats them during the Upkeep Phase (the last guy dies from Poison, for example). Victory tune, hugs all around, Charlotte X Shannon, break out the wine coolers.

If y'have any questions about it, please don't ask them until the UmbralGuide is done. Because I'm pretty much not doing the "Irene teaches the new system" event until it is.

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EDIT: Oh, I guess I'll talk about another thing while I'm at it.

Obviously, you're still not going to know how the enemy is going to attack you (the scouters help you get ideas), but you guys will of course be announcing how you're going to attack. Doesn't that put you at a disadvantage since I can take your strategy and use it to give your enemies a smarter counterattack?

The answer is no, because all I'm going to know when I decide the enemy strategy is what you've decided to deploy.

Example? Oh fuck it, why not:

Okay, so Renny is fighting these two Soldiers. Menarker has Renny deploy his Togekiss. Here's the finalized Order Phase for this turn:

[Soldier A = Speed that's higher than Togekiss]
[Renny's Togekiss]
[Soldier B = Speed that's lower than Togekiss]

Menarker decides that Renny's going to have Togekiss use Air Slash on Soldier B in an attempt to Flinch 'im and keep the incoming damage down until help catches up to him. However, the strategy of the Soldiers is going to be based only on the fact that Renny deployed a Togekiss, not that Togekiss is going to use Air Slash on Soldier B. Otherwise, it just seems unfair to me. To help keep this fair, I'd advise you to keep your strategies out of the threads here and on...oh, the public Pokemon Umbral edupad or something? I'll inform you here in the threads when I've completed my strategy, and then you can feel free to post yours in the RP thread.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 09:31 PM
See, my concern is that Menarker appears to be having a heavy influence on the new system.

And I've noticed that when Menarker works on changes and such, he tends to leave open, let's call them "tactics" that technically anybody can use but he's the only one who's actually going to put effort into it.

Like, whenever he proposes allowing Wonder Launcher items in some way, I assume he's thinking about a sweet combo involving X-Attack 6, a Pecha Berry, Power Shift, Prosperous Gifts and a Portable Hole that would result in the entire enemy formation being instantly one-shotted.

Menarker
07-20-2011, 09:50 PM
Actually, this new system I didn't touch at all. It's all AB's doing.

I helped AB organize pokemon, NPC moves, stats such as actual hitpoints (as opposed to percentages) and looking over the old rules and making notes in red text for what rules were ambigious so AB could clarify them as he saw fit. Stuff that don't actually decide the rules but took several weeks of work and many pages to organize. I'm pretty much just AB's secretary bitch (I'm joking AB! I'm glad to help!). Sure I might make comments or suggestions if AB asks or shows me something, but that's in regards to things I asked him to look over to proofread in the first place.

Thus I'm also in the dark in regards to many of the rule changes since I have not seen the actual "final" rules myself.

Stuff like everyone operating via the speed stat was all Gem's suggestion from way back anyhow.
The only time I really mentioned Wonder Launcher items was in regards to suggestions for rewards for dungeons that would be accessible to everyone. A mere suggestion.


If anything, I actually tried hard to prevent broken tactics. AB suggested a change to Twiloch's ability that would have given 2 pokemon double attacks IE: 2 extra attacks for which to abuse sleep powder or do more damage than 2 slayers. >_> Shot that down in an instant.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 09:51 PM
Cool.

Astral Harmony
07-20-2011, 10:02 PM
Wow. Menarker impressed Dracorion so much that he forgot to call Menarker out on using "pokemons".

But yes, that post is the first time anybody but me is seeing how the new system is.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 10:11 PM
I blame the lateness of the hour, AB.

And Menarker, that was so not the first time you brought up Wonder Launcher items. I remember you brought it up at least once before that.

And AB, I was going to say the new system is pretty much exactly like the old one, only more streamlined. So whooptie-do.

Astral Harmony
07-20-2011, 10:20 PM
Well, there were a lotta moves 'n' shit that just didn't work right (or at all) without overhauling the system.

Now the system is a lot more like it is in the games, just on a larger scale.

And I don't care if you don't think the system is awesome. You're just a big jerkie-pants, so nyah.

...

Note to Self: Have Chizuru call Pierce a big jerkie-pants in the RP at some point for some reason.

Anyways, Wonder Launcher shit sounds like the kind of stuff I'd only allow in Sparta Arena. Or something like that.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 10:22 PM
When are we going to do Sparta Arena, by the way?

Astral Harmony
07-20-2011, 11:06 PM
You're going to do Sparta Arena when Pierce gets so pent up that he starts having sex with buildings.

Mission 5. Just note that Impact's sidequest into Corpsemire and the Hungry World (new name for the Netherworld) comes before that.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 11:25 PM
Actually, I was hoping it'd be later on in the RP.

I mean, by that point Pierce would have, what, Half-Demon level 1? Aura Blade, whooptie-do.

Whereas later our characters can bring more badass skills into the mix.

Menarker
07-20-2011, 11:29 PM
I also support the vote for later!
Renny will probably have a level of Slayer by then and his actual combat style (ICT) will come to play as opposed to being a mix'n'match of pokebrid/trainer skills.

For all of us, it'll make things more interesting. ^^

Let's see... We're all level 6 entering this mission.

Finishing the beach mission will put us at level 7.
Impact's mission will put us at level 8 assuming I haven't made a mistake. We'll all have gained another Signature Tech by then too.
Another mission will put at at level 9 and a new Union Tech (New Name for Love Tech apparently.)

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 11:33 PM
Plus, then we'd have a reasonable chance of beating badasses like Irene, Sakuya, Rayne, Kyrie and Shizuka.

But not Dinner. Never Dinner.

Which sucks.

Bard The 5th LW
07-20-2011, 11:35 PM
What are voting for being later? Impacts sidequest or Sparta Arena?

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 11:38 PM
Yes.

Because fuck Impact.

Menarker
07-20-2011, 11:38 PM
Sparta Arena technically.

Although judging from Drac's comment, he'd rather have them both later. :3

Likely not going to happen though, given how AB wants us to get to Hungry World pretty soon after the beach mission to introduce the demon upgrades in the first place.

I can only imagine how Pierce will react when he finally is able to view people's aura. He'll probably be especially curious as to why the other PCs like Renny, Charlotte and Matthias aren't registering.

So... Dante, how is Matthias getting upgraded? I don't recall or see anything showing what upgrades you plan to get. ^^ I mean, from the look of it, you might even hit Deva level! *Woot!*

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 11:50 PM
... Why wouldn't Renny, Matthias and Charlotte register?

Menarker
07-20-2011, 11:52 PM
It's in the rules for aura reading. It just won't work on PCs.

Here are the rules as copy and pasted.


Aura Reading:

Aura Reader works pretty simple. Look at someone. If that target has an aura, you can find out their opinion of your character. PCs will have auras, but will be “unreadable” due to some sort of unknown characteristic.
- You can kind of tell what something really is by whether it has an aura or not. For example, Wilhelmina is an android. She doesn't have an aura, but if you didn't know this, you would kinda be able to figure it out by seeing that she has no aura.
- Demons, Demon Halfs, and Feral Demons (demonic monsters or "Fiends") can all conceal their auras, though Fiends usually don't bother hiding theirs because when you see them, they almost always have only one thing on their minds: the next meal.
I thought I made it simple enough. All you need to do to see an aura is look at that person. Even if they don't know you're there, they'll still exhibit an aura representing their opinion towards the viewer.

Here's the general rundown:
- Dark blue means that the person has no opinion of you. That person may have seen you, but doesn't know your name or anything else about you.
- Light blue shows familiarity, but still nothing in the way of an opinion. They just...know you. Maybe if you spent some time together?
- Dark green reflects favorable standing. That person considers you a friend and may be willing to lend you a few bucks or buy you a drink.
- With lighter greens, the friendship is stronger. That person is obviously going to buy you a birthday present, and they might even take a bullet for your great friendship. This is usually one of the steps towards love.
- Pink is unique...hey, that kinda rhymes. Anyways, light pink is love. Now you can see if that person really means it when they say the big L word.
- Dark pink is lust. Forget the romance. Don't bother with fancy french dining. Who needs scented candles and dim lights? Just ditch the clothes and jump her bones. Usually, feelings of love and lust are given off at the same time, but not always.
- Bright orange is admiration. That person really looks up to you. Hell, they idolize you. If the person is the opposite gender (or gay) and you're around the same age, you may see pink interlaced with the orange. That's usually a match made in heaven.
- Bright yellow reflects nervousness and fear. The person isn't entirely sure how to approach you if they need to speak to you. You've gotta break the ice. Girls like Calisto and Mirror will sport this aura for many characters.
- Dark yellow reflects suspicion. Impact is likely going to see a lot of dark yellow auras from various NPCs.
- Bright red is anger. That person just doesn't like you, and it may not even be your fault. Be careful how you approach them because...
- Dark red is open hostility. Get ready for some fisticuffs. Most of your enemies will display this aura coloration. But it's not always personal. Some of them wanna kill you because that's their job. Your demise is what they get paid to bring about.
- Dark orange is mind control. That person's mind is subdued by overwhelming psionics and his or her will has been bent to the will of the one who did it.
- Brown auras is more or less sheer insanity. Usually mixed with dark red (open hostility). Their minds are gone to places where nobody can recover them and it's just in everyone's best interest that you put 'em down.


So basically, while the characters have auras, there will be some sort of interference when trying to get any useful info out of it...

Bard The 5th LW
07-20-2011, 11:54 PM
I vote for them being later as well!

And whats this about us not registering? I'd have no problem registering Charlotte's feelings towards anyone.

Also, AB gave me some suggestions about possible abilities Charlotte could gain from Phantomere. What do you guys think?

- Claws of Phantomere ~ 25% chance of Pokemon causing Flinch when dealing/receiving damage when Charlotte's Rage >= 70 RP.
- Deadly Harvest ~ 25% chance of Pokemon causing Death when attacking when Charlotte's Rage >= 70 RP.
- Possession Link ~ When Charlotte's Rage >= 70, choose a target. 50% chance of Domination, 50% chance of maintaining Domination on subsequent turns as long as Charlotte's Rage >= 70. If Charlotte chooses a different target, the original target is no longer dominated.

I'm thinking of going with Possession Link because I like the odds of it success, but I want to see what you guys think.

Dracorion
07-20-2011, 11:56 PM
All of the above.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 12:03 AM
Claws of Phantomere doesn't really work when "receiving damage" because the enemy will have already attacked by then and thus flinching them is useless unless you're hoping to rob them of their next turn. It also won't protect you from the other attackers that have yet to attack. That combined with low success rate when attacking makes it not the best choice in my mind.

Deadly Harvest is an interesting effect, but once again, low success rate.

There only only two real bonuses about the two above.
One is that you aren't losing an action. It's basically a bonus that doesn't risk anything. While the success rate isn't awesome, it doesn't require you to behave much differently (aside from not spending your rage).
The other is the above bonuses might be useful with moves that hit multiple foes at once like Discharge or Surf or something like that.


Possession Link requires you to spend an action (and risk having it be a dud action), but the success rate is higher and there are probably a few things we can do with a dominated person. It also remove an attacker from consideration. That said, it is a gamble.


Ultimately though, it's up to you.
Also, have you discussed with AB what the future upgrades from Phantomere might be like? You might want to ask in case some of them synergize better (assuming you get multiple abilities) or if Phantomere is willing to boost the success rate of an existing ability Charlotte has.

Bard The 5th LW
07-21-2011, 12:05 AM
AB mentioned something about them being passive effects. Unless i misunderstood, then I'm not really losing any sorta turn with them.

I'll mull it over between Deadly harvest and Possesion Link, and flip a coin if I don't decide.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 12:10 AM
If they are all passive (as opposed to me thinking the last one wasn't), then Possession Link does sound better.


At the very least, Renny's Umbreon would be an odd partner with Charlotte.
Charlotte dominates an enemy and Umbreon uses Scapegoat on the dominated foe so he/she/it take some of the hits coming toward our way. :3


Bard, aren't you getting anything more than just that one ability though? Are you taking a level of Pokemon Breeder (and getting an upgrade based on that?)

That reminds me. If you are becoming Pokemon Breeder, you get one more Trainer Action. :3

Bard The 5th LW
07-21-2011, 12:14 AM
What would count under and "Upgrade" for breeder? What sorta bonus would I get?

Menarker
07-21-2011, 12:17 AM
Well, we're kinda customizing our upgrades pretty much.

Common things are:

Increased Rage gain when your pokemon attacks and receives damage by half. (Becomes 7.5 rage.)
Custom Move
Upgraded Stats/abilities for existing pokemon
New pokemon, kinda like how you wanted Revanard (although you probably wanted to wait for your sidequest?)
Custom hold item

That sort of thing (although not all of that at the same time.)

You are automatically sure to get a third trainer action though. (You get one for every 2 levels of Trainer up to 3.)

I'd suggest you consider increased rage gain at least since it'll help you with Phantomere's bonus as well as spam offensive moves like divide/focus.

Bard The 5th LW
07-21-2011, 12:23 AM
Might give Spitz better stats for him to keep up with the others.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 12:30 AM
Ok, how exactly do you want to upgrade his stats?

Mightyena's normal stats are:

HP: 70
Attack: 90
Defense: 70
Special Attack: 60
Special Defense: 60
Speed: 70

TOTAL: 420

Given his very very low stats, I, personally, wouldn't mind if he got a boost up to 540-560 base total. (Which brings him to the rank of just a little weaker/equal/stronger than Arcanine.) This is a boost of 120-140 points which is quite a huge jump. (My Swampert in comparison got 70 points boost, but he was already very strong to begin with.)


So basically...
Phantomere ability
Spitz Veteran status
Trainer Action #3
Increased Rage


I would be fine if you got all this, because Mightyena's base stats is so really low, it should be commended to bring it up to standard-high level if you wish to continue using him. I mean, you could have chosen a much stronger pokemon from the start in its place.

Here is a sample stat increase in case you want to view, but feel free to change it or discard it.

HP: 90 (20 point increase)
Attack: 120 (30 point increase)
Defense: 90 (20 point increase)
Special Attack: 60 (0 point increase)
Special Defense: 80 (20 point increase)
Speed: 100 (30 point increase)

Base Total: 540 (Just 15 point shy of Arcanine)


ALSO NOTE TO EVERYONE: If you want to change any/all of your pokemon's abilities to their respective black/white abilities, now is the time. (Upgrading to the Black/White system)

Bard The 5th LW
07-21-2011, 12:48 AM
I'll probably throw most of Spitz points Into Attack and speed. The numbers you proposed aren't bad. I'll think up a trainer action in the mean time.

Astral Harmony
07-21-2011, 02:02 AM
Sparta Arena at a later time, then. Actually, I'll just set it as an optional dungeon and you guys can decide when you want to do it. I prefer that you guys don't decide to do it multiple times 'cause I've only got one Ruin General to throw in there.

As for why a PC's aura cannot be seen, it's pretty much entirely due to Geminex. At the time, I had it under good faith that Geminex wanted to be an evil character-

Armored Bishoujo: "Don't say anything yet, Dracorion."

And that if his aura could be seen, it'd expose him for the scheming mastermind who has yet to blossom into a true world-owning villain.

I don't think anybody else has a problem with it being possible to view PC auras, so, going on the fact that Geminex told me that Impact isn't an evil character, I'd be willing to do away with that silly rule if he approves as such. I may do so anyways, but I'd at least like his opinion.

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One more thing while I've got it in my head: I'd like to take a little liberty with your characters during the Action Phase for the purpose of creating epic kill scenes. For instance:

The doomed soldier tried to rush Sol-leks in order to stab him with a bayonet, but freaked when Sol-leks broke out into a body-blurring sprint. His shots went wide as Sol-leks leapt up and sunk his dripping fangs into his victim's throat. The momentum of the attack and Sol-leks' own weight saw the Pokemon swing around his neck and twist his head on backwards. Charlotte, seizing the moment, stepped up and unloaded both barrels of her sawed off shotgun into the back of the soldier's head, marveling as his eyeballs and brain matter rapidly exited from his exploding face.
"I love Honmyr," Charlotte took a deep breath and enjoyed the warm euphoria of killing the worthless fucker. "Nothin' fucking like it, baby."

...Y'know. Putting the "Action" back into Action Phase, if you will. Takes more time, but it does make the posts worth reading.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 02:09 AM
The only big objection I might have is that PC emotions might be more complicatated and prone to shift at any given time and having someone ASSUME a person's aura is one thing is kinda iffy.

Let's say for example that Pierce wanted to scan Renny. Renny is normally on good terms with him, but sometimes, Pierce gets on his bad side (twice already). That might change the aura a bit. Drac might then have "Pierce" see Renny later on and assume out of character that Renny is still feeling the same way when I myself might believe that at that point in time, Renny have already gotten over it or has bigger concerns to worry about. (Which would mean the difference from different tiers of aggression/trust).

I don't plan on getting the aura myself, but Renny has been pretty prone to shift emotionally in a short period of time. I'd really don't want another PC to make assumptions (and potentially misinterpreting) on my character's perceived mental/emotional state. Renny especially might feel that he doesn't really like or trust someone, but he usually tries to be friendly and diplomatic all the same to that person to a certain point. I also do not want to get 30+ emails asking for an update on Renny's aura status every half day of the RP per half-demon PC.

Hence why I'd personally prefer it stuck to only the NPCs.


EDIT: In regards to action scenes, I got no objection to that myself. Keep in mind Renny isn't going to be gleeful about killing people, although he'll probably express some sort of disdain for the enemy's behavior, and at most a sort of relief that the situation is getting better.

"It doesn't have to be this way!"
"Go home! We won't stop just because of you!"
"Another down. We can relax a little easier now."

As for the pokemon, only Swampert, Sky Shaymin and occassionally Umbreon will be spirited enough for victory over their enemies. Togekiss hates strife (although he'll be happy enough if everyone is safe when the entire battle is over), Mollesk slow to catch on the fact that the battle is over (still be happy enough), and Magnezone is pretty much a cold calcuating machine. :3

Astral Harmony
07-21-2011, 02:17 AM
Then don't let the PC make assumptions. If he scans you, you get to decide what he sees.

Just don't let him see you naked. Pierce is kinda too valuable to lose by having him hop out a 15th story window.

EDIT: Oh my friggin' god, I just have to make Milsha relate these kinds of stories (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sypWlInZ9y8&feature=related).

EDIT 2: Got distracted which made the post take much longer than it should have. More tomorrow and definitely on the weekends.

Dracorion
07-21-2011, 06:53 AM
As for why a PC's aura cannot be seen, it's pretty much entirely due to Geminex. At the time, I had it under good faith that Geminex wanted to be an evil character-

Armored Bishoujo: "Don't say anything yet, Dracorion."

And that if his aura could be seen, it'd expose him for the scheming mastermind who has yet to blossom into a true world-owning villain.

I don't think anybody else has a problem with it being possible to view PC auras, so, going on the fact that Geminex told me that Impact isn't an evil character, I'd be willing to do away with that silly rule if he approves as such. I may do so anyways, but I'd at least like his opinion.

Hah, please.

Impact may not be all tyrannical bloodthirsty evil, but he's definitely not straight-up good. He's at least somewhere around Bad. I mean, you saw that post with Charlotte. Impact has so many negative character traits in that post alone that it's established him being nowhere near neutral.

Geminex's insistence otherwise doesn't really mean anything. Impact is what he is. Normally, what he is would be what Gem intended, but Gem kinda deludes himself a lot.

...Y'know. Putting the "Action" back into Action Phase, if you will. Takes more time, but it does make the posts worth reading.

Did Gem have something to do with this?

@Irene: Don't sell yourself short, babe. There's enough room on Pierce's dick for everybody.

Bard The 5th LW
07-21-2011, 10:49 AM
I'd certainly be okay with more detailed action scenes, so long as dialogue remains in the player's hands.

DanteFalcon
07-21-2011, 02:31 PM
Damnit Menarker I posted it -ages- ago. And the notepad was on my old computer. So I either have to remember where I put it on that slow piece of crap or re-type it all. Or just backlong through my posts for a long time.

BRB guys, refinding information.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 02:36 PM
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1076759&postcount=3

Is this it?

Once you revealed that you posted it yourself, I opted to do a search of the entire roleplaying discussion threads, searching for posts by your name and displaying the results as individual posts until I came across a summary of a post that looked close to an update conversation.

DanteFalcon
07-21-2011, 02:37 PM
Yes in fact. Although if memory serves you wanted potent poison to be free instead of a RP costing action.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 02:41 PM
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1076766&postcount=5

I did say something like that, yes. :3

That said, I did say there was room for improvement. (Then again, that has always been the case. I think Dante doesn't even have a Union Tech yet.)

Also, Victini is a new option for you for your legendary pokebrid form later on. :3

DanteFalcon
07-21-2011, 02:44 PM
For some reason I don't argue against buffs for me...

Also I'm fine with the arena at any point past him hitting level 8. Mind is still bouncing a bunch of potentials but Victini is certainly one of the most prevalent. Still hard to match the badass factor that Articuno would give me though.

Menarker
07-21-2011, 02:59 PM
Articuno is badass.
It is also assigned to Alphonsine, arriving at the beach mission along with Zapdos and Moltres. ^^; (Believe me, it was hard choosing the other two flying types that would make her semi-balanced)


Right now, you have the following:

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Pokebrid (Level 1)

- Can use any and all moves of the chosen Pokemon form.
- Can use Paradigm Shift (transform into that Pokemon). Lasts 3 turns. Type weaknesses no longer apply and Pokemon statistics are added to inherent statistics for a stat boost during those turns.

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Pokebrid (Level 2)

- A 2nd Pokeshift is available.

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Pokebrid (Level 3)

- Synchronization Techniques become available.

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Pokebrid (Level 4)

- All Pokebrids now have a third DNA Splice. Choose wisely.
- All Pokebrids deal double damage with a STAB modifier instead of 1.5.
- All Pokebrids can use multiple Paradigm Shifts in the same battle, provided they have enough Rage Points.
- All Pokebrids can now use Divide and Focus like a Trainer and Snagger with their own moves.

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Pokebrid (Level 5)

- Pokeform types have status and statistic defenses depending on the type they are. A Poison type Pokemon is immune to Poison and Bad Poison status effects, for example. The best way to know what does what is to look at the special defenses of Slayer armor. (Get AB to at least give you a bonus for your normal type forms.)


Then you wanted the following:

Deva level 1:
- Base Rage generation increased to 15.

Deva level 2:
- +10 to all stats
- Potent Poison: While in Venomoth form Matthias can expend 15 rage to allow his poison to bypass any abilities or types that would otherwise negate the status he's trying to inflict for one turn.

Deva level 3:
- +20 to all stats
- Ruin pokeshift form (Don't forget to talk to AB to come up with a Ruin type that works for you. Maybe consider a dual type one like Ruin/Steel if you want to be defensive?)

Deva level 4:
- Increase maximum Paradigm Shift duration to five turns.
- Air Lock: When Matthias shifts the weather in his Castform state he can expend a minimum of 10 rage to prevent other pokemon from overriding his weather effect for 1 turn. For every 10 additional rage he uses he can lock it in place for another turn (though all have to be expended when the weather is initially shifted) (BTW, Air Lock is an existing ability name that turns off weather condition.)

Deva Level 5:
- Base Rage generated is increased to 20.
- Devas can choose a Legendary Pokemon as a Pokeshift form.
- Emergency Adaptation: While in Porygon Z form Matt can expend 20 energy to use conversion or conversion 2 without using his regular move for that turn.


My suggestions:
Potent Poison: Passive, just like Mold Breaker ability (but work against types too)
Emergency Adaptation: Free Action no cost. (It's of limited utility when there huge numbers of enemies that are thus more likely to hit you for at least neutral if not super effective damage.) This move is at best useful for trying to get STAB out of non-normal moves.

Get something more for Deva 1. Your Pokebrid 5 upgrade was... not very rewarding. Maybe move Potent Poison earlier and put something else useful for Deva 2?

Anyhow, that still leaves you with 5 levels leftover for your dual-class, whatever you choose. Maybe end up getting an extra ability for your ruin and legendary form just like you listed for your first three.

Astral Harmony
07-21-2011, 04:26 PM
Geminex hasn't had anything to do with anything. All we really talked about were a few posts that haven't even been posted yet.

Dracorion
07-21-2011, 04:34 PM
Just checking.

Astral Harmony
07-23-2011, 07:44 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and cut you all off at the pass by saying no.

No, I am not going to sprite Garus' doujinshi.

Dracorion
07-23-2011, 07:56 AM
But can we check out Rachel's website?

Also, I was hoping to have Pierce buy the Kimonos a place to stay because they didn't have anywhere.

So that sucks.

I suppose I should just be glad Irene didn't say "some of Honmyr's best fighters. And Pierce."

Astral Harmony
07-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Sure, check out her wacky website. Pierce Granger is slightly higher than Bretton Collings in the poll for Most Handsome Agent in case that's what you intended to look up.

And I suppose Pierce could always make the offer to them. Hiroshiho's more of a comfort option...

Chizuru: "Wow, what a beautiful place! Hey, Tsubasa, what're you doing?"
Tsubasa: "Oh, y'know. Booby traps."
Chizuru: "We're setting up traps again? We do that everywhere we end up living. What will the neighbors think?"
Shizuka: "Chizuru's right. I mean, yes, whenever we come to live somewhere for a while, we do indeed set up lots of deadly traps, but this is just a comfortable house where nobody even knows who we are. I don't think we need to be so crazy about security."
Tsubasa: "And if some guys were to sneak in and find the several dozen pure gold ingots you've stored underneath the floor?"
Shizuka: "...Okay, but only one Infernal Beast portal."

Dracorion
07-23-2011, 09:46 AM
Well, Pierce would dip into his savings, including what he got from his criminal days (which is almost all of it, his living expenses aren't much), and the finder's fee for discovering Adamantitar.

Which I think should be enough for a comfortable ten-bedroom apartment in Fainas.

Not much room in the way of booby traps, but they could at least put one on the door and all the windows.

Actually, I'm thinking an abandoned dojo (or something similarly big) gotten on the cheap. He'd fix it up for them, of course.

Bard The 5th LW
07-23-2011, 11:27 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/246955/rdj-is-not-amused-o.gif

Menarker
07-23-2011, 12:06 PM
Renny being an idol was unexpected. Interesting though. ^^

Writing up post soon.

... Why do I get the feeling that Rachel might secretly team up with Garus? Garus making doujinshi for the fans of their respective idol from her website.

Rachel: "But what are we going to do about Renny? Legally, he can't be in a doujinshi, despite him being our top idol for the Darling Agent catagory!"
Garus: "Actually, we just can't depict him as his actual age. We'll age him up a bit, guess what he looks like 3 or 4 years from now."
Rachel: "Wouldn't that force him to move catagories from Darling Agent to Handsome Agent?"
Garus: "My friend, I can draw anyone and everyone, including little Renny, to fit any catagory the fans may desire..."


The results of such a team-up may yet be awesome or terrifying.

Dracorion
07-23-2011, 12:16 PM
I'm just hoping Garus doesn't do yaoi.

Menarker
07-23-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm hoping the same thing...

Bard The 5th LW
07-23-2011, 12:24 PM
So does anyone want some sorta character interaction with Charlotte or Jeremy? If not then I'm probably ready to move on to where-ever is next on this conga line.

Dracorion
07-23-2011, 12:26 PM
Well, it might be interesting to watch Charlotte bite Sophia's head off sometime...

But she's not at the funeral.

Menarker
07-23-2011, 02:39 PM
You can go ahead Bard. I have no real intention of having Renny converse with anyone else after Catherine/Miracle.

Although if you REALLY want to have Jeremy introduce himself to Renny, then I will have Renny accomodate that, although briefly.


EDIT: *Reads latest post*

Wow. That surprised me.

I guess Catherine and Miracle keep in touch with Rachel's website. Catherine (the older) has a special attraction for cute young Renny while Miracle (the younger) prefers the older handsomer Pierce.
Out of curiousity, what other catagories are there? Does it also have any other features (like a rumor mill of some sort?)

Bard The 5th LW
07-23-2011, 10:46 PM
Oh shit Irene is going crazy on everyone up in this. And I mean that I'm probably done for now until Impact's part or whatever it is.

Dracorion
07-23-2011, 11:04 PM
You know, if it was Pierce instead of Impact that fight would be at least 100% cooler.

Bard The 5th LW
07-23-2011, 11:20 PM
If Charlotte was there it would be a fight to the death. Unless it already is so. Then it would be a more extreme fight to the death.

Not even lying. She would not leave that place until one of them was dead. You do not challenge Charlotte to a fight in a secluded area if you are not prepared to either die or kill her. I can only hope Impact is the same.

Dracorion
07-23-2011, 11:23 PM
Hah, no, I doubt it.

Impact isn't nearly man enough to kill Irene.

Bard The 5th LW
07-23-2011, 11:28 PM
Irene is the manliest there is, hands down.

Astral Harmony
07-24-2011, 12:11 AM
Yep, you're not truely manly until BGM plays when you go to town on someone.

Irene Vs Impact? Well, "Deadly Weapons" sure beats "Truely Outrageous."

Dracorion
07-24-2011, 12:14 AM
AB, you gonna edit Jeanette and Natalya's responses into your post, or should I just do mine?

Bard The 5th LW
07-24-2011, 12:25 AM
So what are other BGMS? Irene gets deadly weapons, and Impact gets Jem, so other's logically have one.

Dracorion
07-24-2011, 02:36 AM
We should get Menarker a hypnosis tape.

He can have it play "IT'S JUST POKEMON, DUMBASS" over and over while he's asleep.

Menarker
07-24-2011, 02:43 AM
I fail to see the problem. I missed ONE instance in the last post. Overreacting much?

Dracorion
07-24-2011, 02:47 AM
I told you I was going to bother you every time you messed it up, didn't I?

Astral Harmony
07-24-2011, 06:24 AM
Honestly, what Pierce said in those conversations kinda gave me "this conversation is concluded" vibes so I didn't do responses on purpose. Sorry.

Well, if Pierce really wants to keep trying to lay Jeanette and Natalya, I guess I won't try to stop the fucker.

I most likely can't post tomorrow. They're giving me this eight hour watch where I sit at a desk and do abso-fucking-lutely nothing but go insane. Accidentally, a lot of watches seem to serve only that purpose.

Oh well, I guess I could use it to write some comic scripts.

Dracorion
07-24-2011, 11:08 AM
Hey now. Pierce is almost entirely innocent. I'm the one who keeps trying to lay everyone.

Anyway, you're right. That conversation with Natalya's done. Though, I'd like to see Jeanette's response to Pierce, but after that we can end that conversation.

Astral Harmony
07-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Understood. I'll do an edit before I have to go on watch.

I found the song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Z_k50ltkY) (or better yet, this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GvNw93eJ4&feature=related)) to play to Menarker so that he learns to stop saying "Pokemons".

Dracorion
07-24-2011, 11:40 PM
AB, Gem left a question for you on the Umbral pad.

The one everyone uses, not the stupid secret ones Gem makes to hold secret conversation with other players because he's a smug douche.

Astral Harmony
07-25-2011, 12:00 AM
Unfortunately, I'm shit for time. I only have enough time to eat this pie and gather up some things I'll need to deal with this watch.