Kenchiro would kill literally everything in bleach

[Fifthfiend]

Even the things that are already dead.

I just wanted to make sure we're clear on this.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I don't think this thread is clear enough. No, someone needs to take this to the next level.

Someone awesome... beyond awesome.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Someone awesome... beyond awesome.

You rang?

[phil_]

You mean Kenshirou?

And he totally wouldn't. There are kids in Bleach; Ken loves kids. It's like the only characterization he gets.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Even the things that are already dead.

I just wanted to make sure we're clear on this.

Fifth, you're forgetting one important thing:

No one dies in Bleach

[POS Industries]

Isn't like most of the cast of Bleach already dead to begin with?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yes, I do believe they are mostly dead people with swords...

Dear god... They're zombie samurais. my fears have been realized all along.

You rang?

Your awesome is indeed great but not great enough!

[Locke cole]

Isn't his martial art all about hitting the proper pressure points so that organs shut down/and/or people explode?

'cause dead guys in Bleach have different organs. Spiritual organs.

[Aerozord]

in fact there was someone that fought using the "attack organs" strategy, and he lost.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah but in his defense, that Mayuri was a bit of a body horror freak who had replaced his organs. Ringi and Uryu were soundly beaten to near death.

[Locke cole]

Uryu was a human whose body had been transposed, atom for atom, into spirit particles, so he had the same organs as usual.

But that's a good point about Renji...

[Aerozord]

Yeah but in his defense, that Mayuri was a bit of a body horror freak who had replaced his organs. Ringi and Uryu were soundly beaten to near death.But the OP said EVERYONE, if even one person can survive the statement is rendered invalid.

I'd also nominate Captain Calvinball, and Kenpachi cause even after Kenshiro makes his spleen explode Kenpachi would still be laughing maniacally and charging at him anyways

Uryu was a human whose body had been transposed, atom for atom, into spirit particles, so he had the same organs as usual.

But that's a good point about Renji...

its because how his powers work, he attacks your organs period, their location doesn't matter. He won because the organs he was attack was somewhere else. He wouldn't use the same trick with Ken, he'd just re-arrange things or something, but same result.

[Locke cole]

Knowing Mayuri, he probably has like two or three redundant sets of organs inside him.

You know, ones he harvested from test subjects.

Also, what I meant was that if Renji got harmed by that organ-crushing thing, then Kenshiro could probably pressure-point him to death, even if he doesn't know about the spirit chain and soul sleep and whatever else the reapers have in their rib cages.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

But the OP said EVERYONE, if even one person can survive the statement is rendered invalid.

I'd also nominate Captain Calvinball, and Kenpachi cause even after Kenshiro makes his spleen explode Kenpachi would still be laughing maniacally and charging at him anyways



its because how his powers work, he attacks your organs period, their location doesn't matter. He won because the organs he was attack was somewhere else. He wouldn't use the same trick with Ken, he'd just re-arrange things or something, but same result.

Mayuri is not a person (anymore). He's something else entirely and thus does not entirely count towards everyone else.

[Locke cole]

But the title says "everything". Mayuri may not be a person, but he's definitely a thing which is alive (in whatever mucked-up sense of "Alive" you need to apply to the soul reapers before it starts making sense).

[Kyanbu The Legend]

But the title says "everything". Mayuri may not be a person, but he's definitely a thing which is alive (in whatever mucked-up sense of "Alive" you need to apply to the soul reapers before it starts making sense).

With Mayuri, I wonder if he even counts as that. :ohdear: The madman just screams genius zombie death god.


... I should make a zombie death god character. it sounds pretty cool. :3

But yeah he would count in that regards. Ken could probably still kill him though. He's just that badass.

[Doc ock rokc]

Kenpachi. your argument is invalid.
Because if you think about it...even if he does lose, he wins!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Kenpachi. your argument is invalid.
Because if you think about it...even if he does lose, he wins!

Kenpachi never loses, he just wins and takes a dirt nap for the hell of it.

[Red Mage Black]

Having watched Fist of the North Star and read the entirety of the Bleach manga, I can safely say this:

Kenpachi, while the tough badass he is, would probably keep fighting on till Kenshiro made his head explode... or spine snap itself... or chest burst in a horribly gory fashion. Do remember, Kenshiro's techniques also involve some pretty useful things. Like making people forget traumatizing events, like in the first episode.

People Kenshiro can beat easily? Ichigo(even hollow form), Rukia, Renji, Uryu, Aizen(really think you can fool Kenshiro with illusions? Right...), all the Espada, all the Vizors, pretty much all of the Soul Society besides what's listed in the next part.

People he might have difficulty with? Kenpachi, Urahara and his crew(which includes Yoruichi)...

People he wouldn't touch? Pretty much any non-powered mortal, improbable he'd even touch Orihime. Most he'd do to the rest of them is make them forget about what happened.

Then again, I can see Kenshiro taking on the whole of Aizen's forces and prevailing. Seeing as though he knows how to unleash the full strength of the human body. He doesn't just need to rely on techniques to beat them either.

[Aerozord]

Goku wins

[Mr.Bookworm]

Isn't like most of the cast of Bleach already dead to begin with?

Even the things that are already dead.

Question covered in first line, see me after class for help with reading comprehension.

[Red Mage Black]

I believe the line is, "You are already dead." Not sure it would work on more then three-quarters of the Bleach cast though.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Considering that souls can die. I assume it'll work just fine.

Goku wins
That's like comparing a nuclear bomb to an ordinary table knife.

[Marc v4.0]

Kenpachi. your argument is invalid.
Because if you think about it...even if he does lose, he wins!

He is not Batman or Dr. Doom, so that is Impossible.

[greed]

The internet from 10 years ago called, they want their shtick back Marc.

[phil_]

That's like comparing a nuclear bomb to an ordinary table knife.Except the table knife in this metaphor can deflect metaphorical nuclear bombs by spinning around like a goofball and glowing spoilers!

Goku could just teleport him into space, though. I don't think Ken ever showed that he could breathe in space.

[Locke cole]

Aizen(really think you can fool Kenshiro with illusions? Right...)

Well, it's not quite "illusions" per se, more like he can manipulate the five senses. Like, if he wanted, he could make you think that up was down, left was down, and that you were covered in porcupines.

Of course, Aizen never really used that to its full potential. Only really used it to make people stab Momo.

And he needs someone to have watched him releasing his sword before he can control their senses, so there's that.

Then again, Aizen's also a ridiculously powerful wizard.

[POS Industries]

Question covered in first line, see me after class for help with reading comprehension.
Speaking of reading comprehension, it appears someone didn't notice I was responding to Bard.

[Doc ock rokc]

He is not Batman or Dr. Doom, so that is Impossible.

Reasoning behind Kenpachi always winning. IF He beats Kenchiro then he won and had a good fight. If he loses and dies... then in his eyes he meet a worthy opponent and had a good fight and died with honor. Thus he wins. Its not a total victory but to go out in a massive blaze of glory is all Kenpachi really wants.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Speaking of reading comprehension, it appears someone didn't notice I was responding to Bard.

Lack of proper quotation indicates unfamiliarity with MLA citation rules that could cause problems later in course, still see me after class, one point deducted for backsass.

EDIT: Next quiz will be on comparative power levels between 19th century Russian composers and who would win in a lightsaber duel among the Five. Make sure to study.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Except the table knife in this metaphor can deflect metaphorical nuclear bombs by spinning around like a goofball and glowing spoilers!

Goku could just teleport him into space, though. I don't think Ken ever showed that he could breathe in space.

... yet.

He mastered the human body, he could last a few hours up there for all we know.

[Aerozord]

... yet.

He mastered the human body, he could last a few hours up there for all we know.

but its still human, plenty of characters lacking that limitation

[Fifthfiend]

Fifth, you're forgetting one important thing:

No one dies in Bleach

Right, because Kenchiro isn't in it.

in fact there was someone that fought using the "attack organs" strategy, and he lost.

Because he wasn't Kenchiro, yes.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Can't argue with that logic.

[Locke cole]

Fifthfiend, OK. I need to set something straight right now.

It's Kenshiro. I haven't even read this manga, and I know that much.

[Aerozord]

Fifthfiend, OK. I need to set something straight right now.

It's Kenshiro. I haven't even read this manga, and I know that much.

watch fifth been talking about a completely different character this entire time

[Krylo]

but its still human, plenty of characters lacking that limitation

He's still human in, and I can not stress this enough, an anime. (or manga or whatever, FotNS has both and it doesn't really matter which is being discussed here)

I mean, that's kind of like saying there are 'plenty of characters lacking the limitation of being the reincarnation of an omnipotent god' or something.

[BitVyper]

Kenshiro is human the same way Jesus was human.

in fact there was someone that fought using the "attack organs" strategy, and he lost.

Kenshiro doesn't so much attack your organs as make spirit explosions inside you. It's like if Goku were to inject you with a kamehameha.

[Locke cole]

Hmmm.... what about Baraggan? Forgive me if I'm remembering wrong, but Kenshiro needs to make physical contact with his enemy to explode them, right? And doesn't Baraggan have some sort of aura of aging that causes anyone who gets even close to physical contact to age to dust?

[BitVyper]

Baraggan is already dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zoLyXSno4s&feature=related).

[Aerozord]

Baraggan is already dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zoLyXSno4s&feature=related).

so, basically, he's more of a cheap mary-sue then even aizen? thats just sad

[Fifthfiend]

Hmmm.... what about Baraggan? Forgive me if I'm remembering wrong, but Kenshiro needs to make physical contact with his enemy to explode them, right? And doesn't Baraggan have some sort of aura of aging that causes anyone who gets even close to physical contact to age to dust?

Unless you know how to find an aura's pressure points

which Kenchiro obviously does.

[Locke cole]

Wait, I just remembered that the age-aura was used to eliminate a magic barrier and bazooka shot before they reached him. So, ranged attacks doesn't help, provided said attacks have a finite duration.

[Aerozord]

Couldn't he regenerate too? Been awhile but after they finally managed to hurt him didn't he just heal up like it was nothing? Even if the aura go boom worked, wouldn't he just reform?

Aren't we also forgetting that he will be counter attacking with a "you die" power

[BitVyper]

Wait, I just remembered that the age-aura was used to eliminate a magic barrier and bazooka shot before they reached him. So, ranged attacks doesn't help, provided said attacks have a finite duration.

Really, Fifth's post is a better response to this than anything I could say.

Couldn't he regenerate too? Been awhile but after they finally managed to hurt him didn't he just heal up like it was nothing? Even if the aura go boom worked, wouldn't he just reform?

Not if Kenshiro hits the pressure point that makes the aura reverse.

[Aerozord]

Not if Kenshiro hits the pressure point that makes the aura reverse.

his aura is rot/decay/entropy, the reverse of that would be health, life, power, ect. I dont see how that would help.

Besides doesn't his distance poke of death work by touching the aura still? The aura that kills what it touches?

[Red Mage Black]

his aura is rot/decay/entropy, the reverse of that would be health, life, power, ect. I dont see how that would help.

Besides doesn't his distance poke of death work by touching the aura still? The aura that kills what it touches?
It doesn't kill instantly, no. If we learned anything from the incident with Soi Fon, it decays slowly and only takes a single touch and no further contact with the aura before it works its way to the body. Nothing that wasn't solved by cutting off the limb that got 'infected'.

I worked backwards, so now your first statement. If that were true, then after the decay starts, thrust your limb into the reversed energy field. It would probably have a regeneration effect. Then with the energy he'd get from being inside the aura, he could just assault Baraggan head on. If you think about the reverse properties of the aura, it would give them both never ending reserves of energy to duke it out, none being wounded more then a second.

However, I think it's 'reversed' as in 'turned back in on it's owner.' So, he doesn't give it anymore then a 'tap' and Baraggan turns to dust in a few seconds.

[Locke cole]

Which, incidentally, is how Baraggan was defeated in Bleach.

Well, kinda.

Turns out that the rot is infectious, so they threw that aforementioned severed arm down his throat, and he rotted from the inside out.

[Aerozord]

depends on how you "reverse" it. If its a complete inversion then not only is it an eternal regeneration field, but also turned inward instead of outward.

[Marc v4.0]

A complete inversion would be damn pointless, so lets go ahead and not assume the dumbest outcomes are part of the tactical equation.

[Aerozord]

Well just saying, personally I still think Captain Calvinball would win. Kenshiro never came across as the type of strategic fighter needed to counter someone that applies arbitrary rules to a fight.

Or Urahara, who we have seen can observe a technique, analyze it, then manipulate his own aura to negate it. Not to mention that "turn your own power inward to make you go boom" is something Urahara can do too. Plus both these characters have something Kenshiro doesn't. A really nice hat

[Fifthfiend]

Well just saying, personally I still think Captain Calvinball would win. Kenshiro never came across as the type of strategic fighter needed to counter someone that applies arbitrary rules to a fight.

Or Urahara, who we have seen can observe a technique, analyze it, then manipulate his own aura to negate it. Not to mention that "turn your own power inward to make you go boom" is something Urahara can do too. Plus both these characters have something Kenshiro doesn't. A really nice hat

Yeah it would sure suck if their hats had

pressure points

which they totally do, ergo, Kenchiro would win

[BitVyper]

his aura is rot/decay/entropy, the reverse of that would be health, life, power, ect. I dont see how that would help.

"North Star Seven Death Aura Interruption "

It's like you guys have never seen Fist of the North Star. Turning your aura against you with your aura's pressure points is completely a thing that Kenshiro actually does. Ask Raoh.