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Aerozord
09-16-2011, 07:38 PM
and want some thoughts, opinions, suggestions on the matter.

For one I am gonna do a video LP, cause its easier for me. I'm actually rather gabby when I play games and I just find video easier. Thinking of doing it as an inner monologue kind of thing rather then the usual narrative. Just wish I knew of a way to modify the audio to get that echo effect you often get when a character is thinking.

Now what I'm asking is, one, do you think the above is a good idea. Two, how should I focus my character? This is meant to be a blind run, ie my first playthrough, though I did try it for a few hours and learned one important thing, I suck at the combat. Not sure why, just do. I was stealthing and using take downs mostly because I found it easier then fighting. So just giving fair warning, willing to do any type of playthrough. suggestions?

Marc v4.0
09-16-2011, 08:27 PM
Thinking of doing it as an inner monologue kind of thing rather then the usual narrative.

We'll have the wake for your voice tomorrow, just to get it out of the way now

Sounds like a good idea, could be fun

Aerozord
09-16-2011, 08:44 PM
We'll have the wake for your voice tomorrow, just to get it out of the way now

I suspect I will look like an idiot for asking, but can you explain this? I dont follow at all

Krylo
09-16-2011, 08:50 PM
Trying to emulate Jensen's voice for the 'internal monologue' would be deadly to most voices.

Marc v4.0
09-16-2011, 09:11 PM
I didn't ask for this

Kerensky287
09-16-2011, 09:24 PM
I suspect I will look like an idiot for asking, but can you explain this? I dont follow at all

Not sure if you're confused by this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_%28ceremony%29) or this (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1155261&postcount=4).

Krylo
09-16-2011, 09:40 PM
I didn't ask for this

What a shame.

Aerozord
09-17-2011, 12:41 AM
did a sound test, and it seems EVERYTHING is too quiet. yea not just the mic this time. I am going to try boosting the game and PC master volume in hopes this helps.

As for the voice, well I plan on trying to mimic it. I could probably get close, but yea, might not be able to maintain it. So I was thinking of alternatives. I could just go with "its his inner voice so it sounds different" but I had another potential idea. Turns out Adam has multiple personality disorder and all the "options" are really the inner personalities arguing over what specifically to do. Thus I can use a variety of voices. Also explain sudden and wild shifts in personality

Marc v4.0
09-17-2011, 03:31 AM
I can't really call bs on the differing inner voice thing since my mental voice is a brit so what the hell go for it

A Zarkin' Frood
09-17-2011, 04:46 AM
I suggest you pre-record the video in this case. And record your commentary/inner monologue afterwards. That would give you some time to think of good stuff to say instead of going "oooh shiny, a quest marker" all the time. Though, if you'd manage to pull THAT off as a running gag you'd have earned my respect.

On another Note: Using an echo effect just because it's an inner monologue probably isn't a good idea, especially if you do it all the time. Sometimes it's too hard to understand. If you still wanna, though: REAPER (http://www.reaper.fm/) is a mixing program. It's not freeware, but it's an unlimited, fully functional, trial and it has a nice effect library you could use

Also: This thingy (http://www.accursedfarms.com/freemans-mind/) isn't an LP but does the in-character monologue for Half Life.

Meister
09-17-2011, 06:46 AM
Now what I'm asking is, one, do you think the above is a good idea.
No. Put the game in the foreground through interesting additional information and your own thoughts, don't try to put yourself over with funny voices and sound effects. Ask yourself: what can your inner monologue add to the esperience of watching the game footage?

Also, absolutely prerecord the footage and do a voiceover afterwards, especially if you're doing a blind run. For that matter you might also want to edit out all the parts where you walk around aimlessly not knowing how to proceed, because that's practically guaranteed to happen at some point unless you know a game very well. Obviously leave in everything that results in a spectacular fuck-up and becomes entertaining.

PyrosNine
09-17-2011, 03:22 PM
Prerecord and do footage afterwards: it just works out better.

For starters, if shit goes wrong, you can do a retake without having to remember what you were going to say, and talking while playing makes your gameplay suck.

Evidence:


From now on, the KH2 LP is going to be pre-recorded then voiced, because last take (not The Bouncer interlude) went to hell in hand basket. Morgan was too tired to talk straight, I brought up Kimba the white lion (Kimba, the white lion. He's the bravest little guy in the land) and then when we were listening to the finished video we discovered that for some reason Kingdom Hearts 2 was recording at full volume, drowning out bloody everything.

It was impossible to know there was something wrong until the video had gone to print and was reviewed, so having recorded the actual gameplay first and then done the simple task of recording your own voice over it makes it easier to not only correct/adjust any problems but also to plan out your words.

Anyway, which Deus Ex? The new one, or the old one? Invisible War is a standalone game that shall not be spoken of, as it's only canon ending is Alex Denton murdering everyone and then snapping the game disc in half.

If you're gonna do the first one, use the Shifter Mod, which among other things:

Better aug's
More weapon utility (alt fire)
Random drops: Enemies may carry surprises!
Useless Melee Weapons (Stack, and are now throwable!)

Furthermore:
Unrealistic Mode (hard as hell...but...) (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542904147818903989/F042544DE5D8D14D0C06949E1F8375006665A5DB/)

Aerozord
09-17-2011, 08:39 PM
Ok I will try pre-recording it first. Though from experience that wont help the volume issue I'm afraid. Gonna see if I can fix it before I bother

Anyway, which Deus Ex? The new one, or the old one? Invisible War is a standalone game that shall not be spoken of, as it's only canon ending is Alex Denton murdering everyone and then snapping the game disc in half.

the newest one, though from what I know of the first it probably would have made for a more interesting LP.

Also, guys, what kind of run do you think would be best? Or should I just go with my natural playstyle

Marc v4.0
09-17-2011, 11:15 PM
the best playstyle is the one you naturally fall into, you can't really go wrong

Krylo
09-17-2011, 11:16 PM
Adam 'Murder McVendingMachine' Jensen.

Aerozord
09-18-2011, 02:37 AM
Adam 'Murder McVendingMachine' Jensen.

to check, do you mean, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwofqzuKBc) or something more like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvmlA8mz8S8&feature=player_detailpage#t=1162s)? So glad I found one of him actually using a vending machine for murder

cause I am under the impression both are possible in this game

Krylo
09-18-2011, 03:08 AM
More the latter.

A Zarkin' Frood
09-18-2011, 04:11 AM
Ok I will try pre-recording it first. Though from experience that wont help the volume issue I'm afraid.

Yes it will, you can change game volume to put it on one level with your commentary. Then amp it up again to a reasonable degree that doesn't sound fuzzy.

Just for the love of EVERYTHING ever. Don't be one of those shitty LPers who make the game volume nearly inaudible. I hate that and it will make me punch you.

And don't use noise removal if you don't know how, just don't, it sounds like you're speaking through an iron pipe, like all the voice actors in Baten Kaitos. Does anyone even remember that game? Anyway, most of the time audio quality can be greatly improved by deactivating noise removal. No one minds hearing your cat in the background. Just don't have an overly squeaky chair, okay?

Aerozord
09-18-2011, 02:01 PM
Yes it will, you can change game volume to put it on one level with your commentary. Then amp it up again to a reasonable degree that doesn't sound fuzzy.

what I will try to do, I just recall back when I first tried recording things I cranked the volume settings to their max and it was still quiet. Somehow it got better, though it was still on the quiet side.

Might be because I'm stuck with XP version of windows movie maker, I dont have alot of options

PyrosNine
09-18-2011, 08:06 PM
Use VirtualDub, it's not exactly user friendly but it has lots of options, including audio and whatnot.

A Zarkin' Frood
09-19-2011, 05:47 AM
Yeah, if you record your audio don't do it with Movie maker. Very limited options. Movie maker is however ridiculously easy to use for basic editing. Still very limited, though, but it should suffice for an LP.

You can use other programs (like Audacity for example) to record your audio as long as you work out a way to synch it up with your footage. That way you'll have some options. You can enhance it, and sparingly use a noise removal filter to get rid of the worst of the background static if it's there. It's better to work with higher volume recordings, because reducing volumes is easier as it sounds better than the other way around.