View Full Version : The Dreadful -- Chapter 4
MSperoni
12-20-2011, 01:23 PM
It's Chapter 4! And we start with Page 84! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2011/12/20/the-dreadful-084/)
Can't anyone in this comic stay dead?!
But yes, Erin is back...kind of. You'll have to wait and see what the deal is.
She also talks some, but I dropped the German. Which might seem weird at first, but it was something I felt I needed to do for the purposes of the character. It has nothing to do with getting help from Insane Genius (who did all the German translations for me before), it's just that her dialog from now on is something that would be very hard to deal with if I had to keep checking with him for every line. That probably doesn't make much sense now, but it will in the next few pages (or it should, but if it doesn't I'll explain more).
MSperoni
12-20-2011, 01:31 PM
A whuuuuuuut?! Is that like an olyphant? Like Tim Olyphant?
Ookalf
12-20-2011, 02:59 PM
A whuuuuuuut?! Is that like an olyphant? Like Tim Olyphant?
It's a zombie-monster thingy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphnoch) from a show you've probably never heard of (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamen_Rider_555).
MSperoni
12-20-2011, 03:12 PM
I shoulda known Liz would've made a Kamen Rider reference.
(I've heard of it. But I know next-to-nothing about it)
Deck Knight
12-20-2011, 06:28 PM
Getting shot in the brain makes you better at English, but worse at German.
Sounds accurate. Ask 1947 Germany!
Geminex
12-20-2011, 07:40 PM
Getting shot in the brain makes you better at English, but worse at German.
Sounds accurate. Ask 1947 Germany!
Man what?
Edit: Like, I don't wanna get political here or anything, but that particular historical reference really doesn't make much sense.
tacticslion
12-20-2011, 08:38 PM
Hitler's suicide? I dunno.
MSperoni
12-20-2011, 08:42 PM
Hitler died in 1945 though....or did he?
tacticslion
12-20-2011, 09:09 PM
Hitler died in 1945 though....or did he?
Or DID he?!?!?
... Wait, yeah, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that's correct.
I dunno. Germany tends to speak a lot of English now, though! Sometimes! YOU DON'T KNOW, DON'T JUDGE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeee!
Doctroid
12-21-2011, 11:14 AM
Can't anyone in this comic stay dead?!
Muttonchops, MacGrath, and Rado. They're not coming back.
OR ARE THEY???
A Zarkin' Frood
12-21-2011, 11:26 AM
1. Hitler is still alive and on an Island with Napoleon, Elvis and Michael Jackson, they aim to rule the world behind the scenes and the only ones standing against them are Stanley Kubrick and Alan Moore so far.
2. Germans usually know less English than they are taught in schools. Which isn't that much, really. With the mostly English internet slowly but steadily going for world domination more people get a better grasp of the language, though.
3. Man, no German anymore. Now I'll have to go translate stuff like scientific papers or something and those are boring.
Geminex
12-21-2011, 12:03 PM
You could always go back to your illustrious carreer of subtitling terrible german porn.
SaltyKracka
12-21-2011, 02:55 PM
You could always go back to your illustrious carreer of subtitling terrible german porn.
Is there any other kind?
Domestibot
12-21-2011, 03:28 PM
That's Erin? Whoa, she looks different without her flight cap on. I just thought it was her David Bowie lookalike Cousin comin' out for Revengeance.
Doctroid
12-21-2011, 03:44 PM
Yeah, the cap-less look wasn't what I expected — though the Art Shift probably is a contributing factor.
A Zarkin' Frood
12-21-2011, 04:20 PM
You could always go back to your illustrious carreer of subtitling terrible german porn.
Man, thanks for reminding me. I can translate the flick in which Sophie teaches some chick how to have sex by fucking the chick's boyfriend and also Achzehneinhalb #18 which has the classic line "Why's there straw lying around here?"
Nope, context will not make it better.
I just have to find what I need to write subs.
MSperoni
12-21-2011, 04:40 PM
There still might be a German job. Erin's not the only bird-person on the planet, and she may still speak German, just not as often.
I'll be able to explain more in a couple of pages.
SaltyKracka
12-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Dammit Matt, stop explaining. People hate it when you ruin all of their fun by explaining what actually happened.
MSperoni
12-21-2011, 05:07 PM
Okay. Everyone just assume that the reason I stopped asking Insane Genius for help in German is because I'm mad at his comments about Kit's lips and I think he's a doucheburger with extra pickles. It has nothing to do with anything reasonable.
A Zarkin' Frood
12-21-2011, 05:26 PM
Seriously though, feel free to ask me for help any time. I never actually minded the lips, by the way, just to clarify, they just didn't fit with the youthful image I had of Kit, she looks much more adult now, but her character remains the same which has a special kind of charm to it. For some reason everyone thought this was a big deal to me, probably because I called them porno lips and went at it with my usual tongue-in-cheek attitude.
MSperoni
12-23-2011, 01:25 PM
Page 85! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2011/12/23/the-dreadful-085/)
Somethin' weird is going on.
MSperoni
12-23-2011, 01:42 PM
The secret is revealed on the next page, but I'd love to hear some theories.
I will say it does tie into something that has happened in the previous pages (but not in the Advertisements or the Christmas Special) so it's possible to guess based on what's been shown.
A Zarkin' Frood
12-23-2011, 01:49 PM
It doesn't seem likely, but I so hope it's Burke possessing Erin.
MSperoni
12-23-2011, 02:23 PM
That's what one of Liz's theories is!
Deck Knight
12-23-2011, 04:54 PM
The Germany crack was a joke, folks. Not a good one, mind. I just chose a year reasonably shortly after the fall of The Third Reich after the Americans and British would have swept a lot of stuff up.
Donomni
12-23-2011, 11:55 PM
It doesn't seem likely, but I so hope it's Burke possessing Erin.
First thing I said upon seeing this new page: "Oh, sup Burke."
epcharles
12-24-2011, 12:55 AM
Clue from the previous page, number 83!?! I hope it's not Aurox...... :- )
Melfice
12-24-2011, 05:07 AM
Considering the prominent presence of the scar, I'm going to say it's Liz.
Edogaa
12-24-2011, 05:59 AM
in case it isn't obvious, I say that in jest.
That sir was my first reaction >:/
A Zarkin' Frood
12-24-2011, 06:33 AM
Considering the prominent presence of the scar, I'm going to say it's Liz.
Don't you mean someone else? Because I don't really see that Scar and think of Liz. I see that scar and think there was a huge hole a few minutes ago.
Also Liz isn't dead, something about that "Welp, not ready for corpsetown yet" line kinda rules Liz out.
Unless she's dead and I missed it.
Melfice
12-24-2011, 06:47 AM
More than one way to possess someone.
Voodoo is like possession.
But you're right.
Whatevs.
Muere Enano
12-25-2011, 07:11 AM
Scrolled back to page 79... wonder if it's connected to Black Creek Prison, the mysterious warden who replaced Warden Lutz, and the recent "supernatural outbreak"? My hunch is that a new villain is involved, nothing to do with that rigged cigar-chomping dwarf. The story and the ambience are leavening out nicely! =)
Doctroid
12-25-2011, 08:04 AM
Scrolled back to page 79... wonder if it's connected to Black Creek Prison, the mysterious warden who replaced Warden Lutz, and the recent "supernatural outbreak"? My hunch is that a new villain is involved, nothing to do with that rigged cigar-chomping dwarf. The story and the ambience are leavening out nicely! =)
I think you called it. The possessor certainly doesn't talk or act like Burke. Then again the possessee doesn't talk like Erin (i.e. in German) but I'm willing to chalk that up to artistic necessity.
Edogaa
12-25-2011, 03:41 PM
I think you called it. The possessor certainly doesn't talk or act like Burke. Then again the possessee doesn't talk like Erin (i.e. in German) but I'm willing to chalk that up to artistic necessity.
Well, he doesn't have the ring anymore if that counts for anything, so maybe he is insane and is suffering from another effect of the rign if for whatever reason it is him :| ( no longer insane since he isn't wearing it but feels compelled to find it for some reason and is somehow capable of posessing someone? idk)
Bard The 5th LW
12-25-2011, 04:42 PM
Could possibly be a non-crazed Burke. Unsure! Might be someone we haven't seen at all perhaps?
rpgdemon
12-25-2011, 07:30 PM
The way she's talking does seem strangely like Burke's style, just not-crazy. Using metaphors and such.
MSperoni
12-25-2011, 10:33 PM
It's really hard for me not to give hints. It's a good thing it will be revealed on the next page :)
Black Creek and the Supernatural Outbreak are pretty significant to the story, so I'm glad there was a guess regarding them.
Geminex
12-25-2011, 11:20 PM
Request that Erin come across a bunch of hobbits and argue with herself about killing them.
Plz k thx
Muere Enano
12-26-2011, 03:50 PM
I further call the ghost as the mysterious-but-oft-talked-about MacGrath!
MSperoni
12-26-2011, 04:29 PM
I feel bad that 100% of the dwarfs that have appeared in The Dreadful are dead. I need to come up with some more who don't die.
EDIT: But if they are resurrected in spirit form, like some people are suggesting, then I guess they aren't really dead.
Edogaa
12-27-2011, 01:13 PM
:| For some reason I am more surprised than anything.
MSperoni
12-27-2011, 02:56 PM
Page 86! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2011/12/27/the-dreadful-086/)
Revived via the "Fairy in the Bottle" trick. With a twist, and it seems as if the fairy is also part necromancer and part Goth-Kid (you can tell from the stupid poetry -- which was also a haiku). Poor Erin.
EDIT: Also = SKULLS (I think that first panel looks very Metal)
Melfice
12-27-2011, 03:08 PM
Did not see that coming.
Gonna need to lie down. Too tired from laughing.
MSperoni
12-27-2011, 03:55 PM
Now that Ith has been revealed, I can explain more in detail about why I dropped the German language!
The dialog (monolog?) between Erin and Ith is something I tweak almost till the last minute, and I don't want to have to annoy Insane Genius with Email after Email every time I change my mind on a word. I think had Erin stayed just one person I wouldn't have changed anything, since she was easier to manage that way.
Muere Enano
12-28-2011, 12:35 PM
In death, Ith discovers a power-high she never knew in the bottle. That, and the Surrogate Soliloquy.
MSperoni
12-30-2011, 12:20 PM
Page 87! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2011/12/30/the-dreadful-087/)
Kit doesn't seem to be sleeping very well...
Melfice
12-30-2011, 01:01 PM
Dreadful forms.
Shoots Boozloaf.
Why do you hate us, Matt?
MSperoni
12-30-2011, 01:50 PM
Hating is easy!
Doctroid
12-31-2011, 08:39 AM
And it's STILL not tomorrow?
MSperoni
12-31-2011, 08:48 AM
It's a very very very long night.
Domestibot
12-31-2011, 12:58 PM
Kit better get that arthritis checked out, it'll absolutely KILL her trigger finger.
BigDemonicBunny
12-31-2011, 06:20 PM
Kit better get that arthritis checked out, it'll absolutely KILL her trigger finger.
Well, the only gun the Kit uses her left for is the Dreadful (for every other gun she uses her right hand).
Also, after going through the comic again:
1. The gunman that shot Kit in the first pages was a lefthanded shooter.
2. Kit is a righthanded shooter.
3. Poe is also a rightie. So it probably wasn't Poe that shot Kit in the back.
4. No idea which hand Jeanne uses. Could be left since we don't have any clear images of her left hip. But she could also have a non-conventional holster across her chest or a righthanded draw on the left side (common with gunslingers using long-barrelled cavalry pistols).
5. Erin and Liz are also righties.
MSperoni
01-03-2012, 11:25 AM
Page 88! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/03/the-dreadful-088/)
"Grimdrake's Necropedia" sounds like it would make for a good read!...but what could be wrong? Is she referring to Burke the Hoola-hoop?
epcharles
01-03-2012, 03:48 PM
Hmmmm.... an undead, winged, elf-eared sniper is arguing with the bottled-fairy that possessed and re-animated her, while looting the corpse of a dead dwarf who went mad and then had a hole blown in him so big you drive a circus car through it, just so she can find a gun and try to avenge the injustices done to whichever personality can take control for the longest.... and only one thing is potentially wrong?
Eh, she probably just noticed that his hat is missing ;- )
MSperoni
01-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Hmmmm.... an undead, winged, elf-eared sniper is arguing with the bottled-fairy that possessed and re-animated her, while looting the corpse of a dead dwarf who went mad and then had a hole blown in him so big you drive a circus car through it, just so she can find a gun and try to avenge the injustices done to whichever personality can take control for the longest....
And it hasn't even gotten weird yet!
The SSB Intern
01-05-2012, 12:36 AM
"Grimdrake's Necropedia" sounds like it would make for a good read!...but what could be wrong? Is she referring to Burke the Hoola-hoop?
I thought that said grimdark at first and thought you were making a sly homestuck reference. So sad it wasn't.
MSperoni
01-05-2012, 04:50 PM
SPOILER ALERT!! (I guess?..it's pretty vague).
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/489807546.jpg?Expires=1325801388&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=gNoNC24NZyreILPudBv-0HX7mOjlCfF~7xj8cltWNS-UITfwLyfJin9qCmouc7GrI0wW7rezSTZ04RvvhvHUNyXH~dN-MqbxX2mm~p3xX0g~xEDkCBanGDhtN0UN7BhGaWIGoTgzZUpQku 6UYAHNQblrBT4n3po~PMu5ZwS8qdM_
Link (http://twitpic.com/83m9x6) if image won't display.
MSperoni
01-05-2012, 05:00 PM
Page 89! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/05/the-dreadful-089/)
That's peculiar, huh?
(I didn't think Brian would post this page today, I wasn't expecting it till tomorrow :D)
Kalbelgarion
01-05-2012, 05:04 PM
It's the eye-stalk! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2005/03/19/episode-529-the-beast-in-the-cave/)
Cthulhu, get out of here. *shakes fist*
MSperoni
01-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Kwee hee hee
I tapped into my inner Junji Ito for this one.
(there are still some manga peeps I like)
BigDemonicBunny
01-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Page 89! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/05/the-dreadful-089/)
That's peculiar, huh?
Holy high-octane nightmare fuel.
Kwee hee hee
I tapped into my inner Junji Ito for this one.
(there are still some manga peeps I like)
Reminds me of this:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2rz2tde.jpg
MSperoni
01-05-2012, 06:11 PM
I only have one Ito manga, and there were no mouth-eyes/eye-mouths in it, so I guess I just came up with that one on my own.
I should probably get more of his books, actually :)
I've been binge reading his stuff for a while now.
SaltyKracka
01-06-2012, 02:05 AM
My god. It's slowly coming this way!
Domestibot
01-06-2012, 02:30 PM
Awww, it's the miracle of life: Unholy Demonspawn being birthed through the dead mouth of a dwarf that was impaled by diabolical energy... And how this didn't make it on that Discovery Channel Special I'll never know.
MSperoni
01-06-2012, 02:38 PM
And it hasn't even gotten weird yet!
Alanim
01-08-2012, 03:19 PM
Solved It.
The Eye-ball-mouth-creature is a assman, it was tryin' to get a look at dat ass while she walked away, luckily nothing can hide from Ith. The Eye-ball-mouth-creature also has a tooth fetish, that's why he choose Burke, since all his teeth are individually drawn.
Panel with kit means nothing, she's just having a nightmare, likely some dream of being hired by santa to fight some sort of G'urnch, or something... Hell I had a dream lastnight of me brushing my teeth for 30 minutes(felt so real).
MSperoni
01-09-2012, 09:57 AM
I'm not going to say that's not what's happening.
MSperoni
01-10-2012, 11:45 AM
Page 90! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/10/the-dreadful-090/)
The Dreadful has pretty monsters.
Alanim
01-10-2012, 01:28 PM
Well damn, there went my theory, and I thought it was a pretty sound one too.
Here are my predictions on what happens.
1. Ith, Erin, and Spider-Burke have a nice cup of tea.
2. Spider-Burke Eats Ith, and Erin, Making it the second shortest revived character ever(R.I.P. Blackbelt).
3. Ith and Erin Fly away, they have wings you know.
4. Ith and Erin Fly away, burke super jumps and takes them down. Go to Theory 2.
5. Spider-Burke, Ith, and Erin team up to kill kit, Spider-Burke did not enjoy his lovely dwarf body being made into a hula hoop.
6. Another transformation page.
7. Bulletproof ring puts spider eggs in your brain which are harmless until they hatch AND KILL you, oh and insanity, it drives you insane due to the spider eggs, in your brain.
I think I've pretty much covered every base here.
Gitman
01-10-2012, 02:09 PM
Page 90! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/10/the-dreadful-090/)
The Dreadful has pretty monsters.
The comic or the weapon? If the latter, that would imply that Kit's hand-cannon causes spontaneous spider-demon generation in its victims. Interesting. :cool:
Geminex
01-10-2012, 02:30 PM
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going
Alanim
01-10-2012, 02:35 PM
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going
I was going to say that aswell, but I decided not to. Well played sir, Well Played.
MSperoni
01-10-2012, 02:47 PM
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going
I'm not THAT desperate for readers! (....yet)
MSperoni
01-13-2012, 12:19 PM
Page 91! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/13/the-dreadful-091/)
Hope you like horrible spider looking things!
Alanim
01-13-2012, 03:03 PM
/Nailed it.
Also that's one badass looking monster.
phil_
01-13-2012, 11:34 PM
Just checking, but it has gotten weird now, right?
SaltyKracka
01-13-2012, 11:53 PM
Spider-Burke!
Spider-Burke
Does whatever a...Spider-Burke does
Can it swing?
From a web
Probably not cause the damn thing's huge
Run away
Here comes that Spider-Burke
Doo-doo~
MSperoni
01-14-2012, 12:37 AM
Just checking, but it has gotten weird now, right?
Well, weird is a matter of opinion. So to some peeps this may be as weird as it gets. However, in my opinion: No, it has not gotten weird yet.
Mr.Bookworm
01-14-2012, 04:16 AM
Just checking, but it has gotten weird now, right?
Wait til it puts on a ten gallon and spurs.
MSperoni
01-17-2012, 11:39 AM
Page 92! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/17/the-dreadful-092/)
We interrupt your Creepy Spider Demon programming with...
BigDemonicBunny
01-18-2012, 12:08 AM
On one hand, it's probably just a dream. On the other hand, considering the rest of the bunch I could totally see The Judge having creepy dream haunting powers.
MSperoni
01-20-2012, 03:15 PM
Page 93! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/20/the-dreadful-093/)
NOW I think it is starting to get weird.
Domestibot
01-20-2012, 04:45 PM
I dig Erin's conversation with herself, but I'm just gonna throw out my two cents:
Since you kinda lost her German mannerisms and diction, it's (only a bit) tedious to kind of have to read the whole panel, determine who is saying what, then reread it again in context.
Again, it only takes like an extra two seconds to guess who is saying what. Erin at this point seems to have been relegated to the role of clueless wanderer, and goth-fairy girl would be the one saying anything... well, Goth. The point I'm making is that without any form of sound and only having text to go on, we kind of have to read the whole thing and go "okay, Erin is saying that."
I think a good way to consider clarifying whom is speaking right off the bat would be to give each character their own respective speech bubble, kind of like Brian did for Garland, Vilbert, Black Mage when he was evil, etc. Some kind of distinction like that (even if it's only a subtle font change or outline of the bubble) would probably help.
Lettering is something I've done in the past, so I'm just trying to give you something to consider. Even if you keep things as is, it's still understandable.
MSperoni
01-20-2012, 05:24 PM
Different letters for Ith is a pretty great idea actually. I don't know why I didn't think of that at first. I just need to find a good font for it.
A Zarkin' Frood
01-20-2012, 05:34 PM
I was about to suggest the same thing. Actually. While it's not much a problem it would at least safe us the time to figure out who's saying what.
MSperoni
01-20-2012, 05:39 PM
Yeah. I wish someone had mentioned it earlier. That's okay though, I will just change it in every page from now on when Ith and Erin are speaking.
I will still keep it so they have their own speaking style though. It will just be in two different fonts so readers can tell instantly (like has been suggested).
It still bugs me that I didn't think of that right away. I really should have. :P
Geminex
01-20-2012, 07:36 PM
Erin's lines should all be in Fraktur. You know, heavy germanic writing. It'd probably be really hard to read but screw that.
MSperoni
01-20-2012, 07:46 PM
I've actually decided to change all of Ith's lines to "Evil Genius" (http://blambot.com/font_evilgenius.shtml) with a slight fade to it so it looks grey instead of black. Hopefully that will work.
Ith isn't exactly "evil" (though I guess that's open to interpretation), but I think the font looks different enough from what I normally use to be able to tell it apart.
The only thing I'm worried about is it being grey and not black. I'm worried it won't show up clearly when the pages are reduced in size for posting. I might go back and just have it italicized instead and see if that helps (EDIT: Except I just realized it doesn't have an italics option, so I guess I'll just have to think of something else).
It's gonna be stupid if I put a whole new font in and it doesn't look different enough for people to tell. So I want to be sure it's as clear as possible!
Domestibot
01-20-2012, 08:19 PM
In the past, I've personally used many fonts on Blambot. They have some great stuff there, many of which are free for the general public. Ith strikes me as a "straightjacket," kind of girl, even if for nothing else but her goth kinda outlook, but if you want something more legible, you can try (this is off the top of my head, so apologies if the font name isn't exactly right) sunday comics or letteromatic.
MSperoni
01-20-2012, 08:30 PM
I also kinda like "Nightwatcher" . Thing is, if I used the lowercase letters it might be too visually jarring, but I don't know. I'll experiment and see.
EDIT: I tried Nightwatcher and hated the lower-case letters. I also tried "Straight Jacket" and it was good, but it was TOO different (I'll save it for possible use later). I think I'll stick with Evil Genius for now.
epcharles
01-20-2012, 11:18 PM
My two cents:
When the two personalities first started, only one was speaking per frame, and they alternated. There were also distinctive facial expressions and backgrounds. Thus, it was actually really easy to keep track of what was happening.
Thus, no font needed, no reason to think about it. Now that things have (in only 8 pages) become much more comfortable, and both are talking casually in the same frame, it's gotten murkier. Thus, the need for some sort text-box level distinction seems obvious in hind sights, even though it wasn't really needed when things started out.
MSperoni
01-20-2012, 11:34 PM
That's true.
I just finished putting in "text-box level distinction" on page 94, so we will have some starting on the next page! :)
Then it will be double-clear.
tacticslion
01-21-2012, 01:26 AM
Since both posts I was thinking of making were made for me, I'll just keep this simple:
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
That is all. Carry on. Thanks!
SaltyKracka
01-21-2012, 09:23 PM
Oh, hey, I just got it.
The fairy in the bottle revived Erin!
MSperoni
01-22-2012, 12:25 AM
Congrats on getting the reference!
BigDemonicBunny
01-22-2012, 05:32 AM
On the other hand I can't see Erin becoming an actual bottle fairy.
I can see the drinking, I can't see the cheerful :)
MSperoni
01-22-2012, 04:04 PM
I'm having second thoughts about my differing fonts for Erin and Ith... I just feel like I should make the dialog between them clear enough so I don't have to use a different font. I also am worried the new font for Ith is too evil looking, and too different, and so it makes her seem like she is talking in another voice. The idea is her and Erin have the SAME voice, they just say stuff in different character based on who is speaking.
Sooo...I don't know what to do now. I'm actually considering changing it back to the way it was. Changing it back to where they both use the same font. It might take an "extra two seconds" to figure out who is speaking, but so long as you CAN figure it out (or take a good guess) then I suppose a font is unnecessary...
Also, if you really were listening to Erin/Ith speaking, it might really take you an extra couple of seconds to figure out who was who. Like I said, they have the same sounding voice. It would sound like you're talking to one person.
Also it might be fun for it to be purposely confusing sometimes because it would open it up more to reader interpretation.
EDIT: Brian suggested I keep the two fonts and gave a good argument for doing so. So I guess I'll stick with them anyway :D Normally I go with my gut but I can see his point, and I've made the mistake of not listening to him before.
A Zarkin' Frood
01-22-2012, 04:35 PM
Those are actually points I'd raise myself if I were an author. I'm sure I can live with your comic stealing a few extra seconds of my life every time I read a page with Erin and Ith in it.
MSperoni
01-22-2012, 10:01 PM
Well, my gut tells me I should stick with just the one font. However, Brian says it's a good idea to use two fonts for clarity purposes, and my other gut says I should listen to him. My third gut that says I shouldn't listen to anyone is actually telling me I should listen to Brian. And my final gut is just hungry.
I'm counting four. Are you a cow? That would explain the bovine pun obsession.
MSperoni
01-22-2012, 10:52 PM
Hmm...maybe I'm part cow. I'm not all that fat though.
Well neither is Boozloaf.
MSperoni
01-22-2012, 11:02 PM
True enough. Booz is all super beefy.
phil_
01-22-2012, 11:31 PM
Well, if I were a dude writing two characters who share a body and voice, I would embrace the idea that, at some level, they are both the same character, and anyone listening to them, in-comic or beyond the fourth-wall, would be confused as to who is talking eventually.
But, then, I don't care if people understand my comics as long as they enjoy them, which takes a different angle than that with which you're approaching The Dreadful. You should probably go with two fonts.
Booz is all super beefy.
:(
Dycedarg
01-24-2012, 03:02 AM
I'm having second thoughts about my differing fonts for Erin and Ith... I just feel like I should make the dialog between them clear enough so I don't have to use a different font. I also am worried the new font for Ith is too evil looking, and too different, and so it makes her seem like she is talking in another voice. The idea is her and Erin have the SAME voice, they just say stuff in different character based on who is speaking.
Honestly, I wouldn't really expect them to sound exactly the same at all. After all, they're not the same person, just sharing a body, and a voice is so much more than just wind through a set of vocal chords. I would imagine that if you were sharing someone else's body, you'd still try to talk like you would if you were in your own body. Therefore their accent (especially if Erin is still supposed to be German), enunciation, and tone could and would most likely be completely different from each other.
I mean, just consider how many different speaking voices a real person can manage if they want to. The first time I saw Kyra Sedgwick on a talk show instead of The Closer I couldn't believe how different her voice was. I would never have recognized her just by hearing her. The way someone talks affects far more about how they sound than most people realize, and matters almost as much as the vocal chords they're using to do it. Lacking the vocal cues that would pretty much have to exist if we could really hear them speaking, I would say that using a different font is the way to go.
epcharles
01-24-2012, 10:40 AM
Font difference on 94 is surprisingly subtle... given how different the fonts are. My guess is that if you showed it to someone who is not specifically into fonts, and who has not seen the prior pages, no one would spontaneously ask why the font changed. Even if they notice, they will assume it is for some sort of emotional emphasis (as Dycedarg suggests).
Though I was skeptical, so far, I think it works.
A Zarkin' Frood
01-24-2012, 10:57 AM
Yeah, it's noticeably different but subtle enough. the only thing that makes it stand out is it's bold, or just thicker by nature.
MSperoni
01-24-2012, 11:07 AM
I figured it was too hard to read at a 0 stroke width so I went with .5
Anyway, Page 94 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/24/the-dreadful-094/)
Why do they have faces?....
They remind me of Silent Hill.
MSperoni
01-24-2012, 01:09 PM
Silent Hill is pretty rad :)
BigDemonicBunny
01-24-2012, 05:45 PM
Once I saw that image of those larvae I was thinking....is that a Lemur (The chthonic being type, not the primate)?
I sure hope the Dreadful isn't creating one of those things every time it's used to kill someone.
Alanim
01-24-2012, 10:47 PM
I see nothing wrong with this. Here's my new theory on what's happening.
The ring lays eggs into your finger, which move to your brain and cause you to go insane, this is normally fine but the dreadful supercharged the spider, and now it's birthing snails which need shells, aka corpses. I predict that once that birthing process and shell gathering is complete they'll find some hole in the desert and never be seen again, or atleast not for 100 more years, while randomly picking off random people for more "shells". This is where atomic robo comes in to kick some ass.
MelodionxXx
01-25-2012, 12:11 AM
Just popped in to say that The Dreadful just keeps getting better and better. Loving how it's building and can't wait to see where it's going. I haven't a clue where, which is just great =)
Great work in all aspects, best strip on the internets
MeloxXx
MSperoni
01-25-2012, 12:35 AM
Yay! Thanks so much! :D
Alanim
01-25-2012, 01:27 AM
I'll be serious for once and actually second what Melodion said, I really don't have a clue where "The Dreadful" is going but I do enjoy reading it.
Also, while I have no idea what's going to happen in the next page, I do think we know why it's called "The Dreadful", because it has dreadful consequences when used.(I assume.)
CABAL49
01-25-2012, 04:12 AM
The fact that the Dreadful is powered by alcoholism, makes it so appropriate to be here on NPF.
MSperoni
01-25-2012, 04:42 AM
*nods*
epcharles
01-25-2012, 04:24 PM
Why do they have faces?....
Actually, at this point, their having faces seemed pretty reasonable.... "Why were spirit-slugs born out of the spider headed end of a giant, mostly-arachnid man-spider?"
(At least, I assumed the six black dots in the last frame of page 90 were insect eyes, and hence that was a head... but then there was birthing....)
Bard The 5th LW
01-25-2012, 04:28 PM
So the Dreadful opens a portal to hell or something then? That is very irresponsible of Kit.
MSperoni
01-25-2012, 08:58 PM
Assuming she knows that it actually DOES that.
Domestibot
01-26-2012, 01:07 PM
Those little guys are kinda cute, actually.
MSperoni
01-27-2012, 01:43 PM
Page 95! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/27/the-dreadful-095/)
More trouble...
phil_
01-27-2012, 01:47 PM
Aww, I thought they'd turn into spider-monsters, too.
MSperoni
01-27-2012, 01:58 PM
I'm neither confirming nor denying anything.
Geminex
01-27-2012, 02:18 PM
Well, at least they were already dead!
...
Probably.
Like, there's no way that Kit's shot could've just mortally wounded one of them so they lay in the cold desert, bleeding out slowly, waiting for death. Crying out for their mothers with trembling lips, desperate for one last shred of comfort before a lonely, painful death. Feeling, through the haze of pain, a cold, slimy weight climb up onto their chest, eyes widening in horror as a creature from the pits of hell came into view. Desperately wanting to struggle away, to get up and run from this thing. Realizing that they were pinned, helpless, trapped by their broken body. At its mercy. Crying silent tears of terror as it forced their mouth open. Gagging desperately as sharp antennae stratched the backs of their throats. The last thing they felt would be its awful, smooth bulk sliding down their throats before everything went mercifully black.
...
That couldn't happen, right?
MSperoni
01-27-2012, 02:26 PM
"Mercifully".... :D
(Liz was the one who shot them, by the way. Kit just created the spider monster that gave birth to the demon slugs that impregnated their bodies. I have a happy comic.)
EDIT: Maybe "impregnate" is the wrong word here. Possessed? Symbiotically attached to? I dunno. It sounded creepier saying "Impregnate" though so I went with it. (I don't know the science!)
BigDemonicBunny
01-27-2012, 05:00 PM
...Well, regardless there can only be one response.
"Nuke it from Orbit, it's the only way to be sure".
Except I'm sure the Dreadful equivalent of an orbital nuke has it's own disgusting "It got worse" drawbacks.
Alanim
01-29-2012, 01:37 AM
Hey, quick question, how are you going to draw black people while keeping the monochrome color scheme?(if you even plan to have any)
Just curious on how you'll deal with this problem if you happen to run into it, or bringing it to your attention so that you don't have to worry about it later.
*edit* unless grey isn't off limits, but it appears to be used pretty rarely in this comic.
Second dude from the left in the last panel of comic 95 looks black-ish. I may be wrong though. Matt?
MSperoni
01-29-2012, 06:10 AM
I figure the non-anime style lets me have more realistic facial features and I think I can indicate ethnicity without resorting to shading. I'd like to keep the digital work to a minimum, and I think it would look off visually if someone had their skin shaded when nothing else was. If there are any questions as to a minor character's skin color, just take your best guess. I don't want a White Washed World, but with the art how it is, that might not be too obvious.
In the cases of main characters, where it's important for the sake of detail, clarification will be done via wallpapers or colored pieces of fanart. Like Kit and Jeanne for example. Kit is pink, and Jeanne is a blue/grey/green. There's really no way to tell that in the comic, so I either have to mention it, or have a picture of them available for reference.
There is also a major character who is a black woman. She's not appeared in it yet, but she plays an important role later. When the story started out, her and Kit were the only people I had. The reason she hasn't been in it yet is because I need a few things to happen first.
MSperoni
01-30-2012, 11:47 AM
Page 96! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/01/30/the-dreadful-096/)
I think Ith has a point, really.. She really does seem the lesser of two evils when it comes to resurrection options.
Kalbelgarion
01-30-2012, 11:56 AM
Just curious - How much plot did you have mapped out when you started drawing the comic? I'm guessing you had a rough idea of where the story is headed, but at what time do you finalize plot points?
MSperoni
01-30-2012, 12:10 PM
Certain plot elements (like this one for instance) I had in my head for a long time. Though sometimes I will change my mind at the last second, which can be really annoying and cause some delay. There's a part coming up where I had the script all planned for something to happen, and RIGHT when I got to the page I instantly changed my mind and then had to change it.
I don't see scripts/outlines as being set in stone, so if I think of something better as I go, I don't have a problem with changing it. I think that's a luxury I have as both writer and artist.
I used to never plan ANYTHING. I would just get a vague idea where I wanted it to go and just draw/write till I got there. That makes for a lot of problems and I think the earlier part of the comic is a bit too sloppy. I have changed my tune though, and this chapter and the next one are all planned out in detail prior to drawing. I like that because I can set things up better, and have more control over how the chapter is paced. Still, like I said, the script isn't set in stone, so it might still get changed, it just will be smarter changes :)
MSperoni
01-31-2012, 07:12 PM
I want to point out that I made a tumblr for various Dreadful stuff, so if you want to follow it, feel free!
Link (http://dreadfulpink.tumblr.com/)
It's mainly to post pics and updates and stuff, it's going to be very minimal. All Dreadful related. I might make more of it in the future but for now this is about all I want to do with it.
MSperoni
02-02-2012, 06:30 PM
What might have been... (http://dreadfulpink.tumblr.com/post/16943052902/after-burke-died-i-joked-about-him-being)
MSperoni
02-03-2012, 01:18 PM
Page 97! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/03/the-dreadful-097/)
Dammit, Ith.
Domestibot
02-03-2012, 01:42 PM
Heh, I was wondering if Ith was able to exert control over Erin physically, or if she was just kinda floating around in her brain. Guess that answers that.
MSperoni
02-07-2012, 02:20 PM
Page 98! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/07/the-dreadful-098/)
Husch husch!
OmniShadow
02-07-2012, 06:54 PM
I'm probably not the only one who hopes that Erin/Ith becomes/is a protagonist (as in, someone who stays around for a long time :P)
MSperoni
02-07-2012, 07:17 PM
Yeah, they're gonna be around for awhile. There are too many fun things to do with them :D
Krylo
02-07-2012, 07:32 PM
Ith is actually the main character. Everything else has been a ruse.
MSperoni
02-07-2012, 10:21 PM
And to think it all started off as a Zelda reference.
EDIT: Kit is still the main character, btw :D
A Zarkin' Frood
02-08-2012, 08:15 AM
It's what I like about this comic. Not everything is set in stone. And that's the best way to make it good, I think.
MSperoni
02-08-2012, 01:02 PM
I adhere to a few things, but most are subject to change at any time. There's something coming up in the next few pages that I had planned for weeks in my script, but I changed it right when I started drawing the page.
MSperoni
02-10-2012, 04:33 PM
Page 99! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/10/the-dreadful-099/)
Dead Space reference!
Dr. Clark isn't even a real doctor.
Ryanderman
02-10-2012, 05:10 PM
I just want to chime in to say that when this comic started, I was uncertain about it. It was nifty, but rambled a bit, in my opinion.
It's gotten good now. Quite good.
MSperoni
02-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Good :)
I've been getting some advice from Brian and working hard to make it better. I think the comic is more focused now, and that helps. (probably why you say before it was "rambling").
There were a lot of good elements in the earlier stages of the comic, things I would keep. But if I had to redo it I would cut out a bit of it and tighten things up a lot.
Alanim
02-11-2012, 05:54 PM
mmmm, gory scenes, I'd assume they're pretty tough to draw at first but I can only assume they become alot funner the more you draw them.
MSperoni
02-14-2012, 01:29 PM
Page 100! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/14/the-dreadful-100/)
100 pages! Weee!
I guess being Genre Savvy only works if the Genre cooperates...
Arhra
02-15-2012, 03:21 AM
So zombies can be killed by throatpunching?
Works for me!
BigDemonicBunny
02-15-2012, 10:05 AM
Looks like fantasy monster hunters and alien hunters have something in common.
Colonial Marines guide to killing aliens:
"When up against an unknown alien species, you can not rely on any single shot or strike to neutralize your target. When in doubt, aim for anything that's pulsing, throbbing, fluttering or generally appearing like soft or distended tissue.
We have yet to encounter a multicellular alien lacking a circulatory system"
MSperoni
02-15-2012, 07:34 PM
We'll see if Colonel Marine's Monster Killing Logic applies to Dreadful creatures. :D
epcharles
02-17-2012, 12:46 AM
Minor note: I like the detail of the zipper-up back. Must be awkward to put on, but it works, and explains why the jacket can sit normally in the front.
MSperoni
02-17-2012, 03:34 PM
Due to Brian being at Megacon, page 101 might not get uploaded this week.
But if it doesn't get posted, I'll get him to post three pages next week to make up for it :)
Domestibot
02-18-2012, 12:11 PM
Hmmmm, I got a question Matt: How maneuverable/capable is Erin in flight? I ask because she has been shown flying a good distance (like when she was first introduced) but then the time she tried to fly away from Liz and company it was almost like she tripped in midair and fell, or was just out of energy or something. And here, one would think she'd have just kept flying away if she had the capability, but instead she opted to hop across a wide ravine and seems resigned to fight like she's cornered. Did Kit injure her flying capabilities with that lightning attack, or does she need to get good speed in order to take off, like a plane or something...
MSperoni
02-18-2012, 06:28 PM
I've probably overcomplicated it and made it more confusing than it needs to be, but it's a combination of things.
The first time when she was flying around she was at "full health" so it wasn't a problem. The second time she tried to fly she had just been hit with magical lightning, and so her body was a little unresponsive (remember, not even Kit could move around much after that instance, and it took Kit awhile before she could even feel her hands again). The most recent time she tried to fly is a combo of a few factors: She's a bit out of energy, thanks to Ith running like she did; she is still slightly weirded from the whole Ith situation; and she took it for granted these things were just zombies she could pop in the head once and be done with.
Now they're pretty much on top of her, and they're pretty fast. If you notice how much ground they covered between panel 1 and panel 3 of page 98 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/07/the-dreadful-098/).
epcharles
02-19-2012, 01:34 AM
Hmmm... I got the impression from the text that there was no flight primarily because Ith and Erin were both trying to work the controls at the same time, which is inherently complicated... but even more so given Ith's lack of experience in the body.
BigDemonicBunny
02-19-2012, 04:16 AM
I'm honestly surprised that Erin is as mobile as she is. She died and came back as a possessed body (which unfortunately for Ith is possessed by the former host as well, fortunate for Erin however... Or is it?)
MSperoni
02-20-2012, 09:48 PM
Okay so...page 101 seems a little screwy. It's not displaying for me, and word is that it's not displaying for other people too.
It should hopefully be fixed soon.
In the meantime, I've set this thing up: Link (https://twitter.com/#!/dreadful_ebooks).
It's a goofy little thing on Twitter where I type crazy shit. Mostly Western themed, though I put in other stuff occasionally.
MSperoni
02-21-2012, 12:23 PM
Page 101! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/20/the-dreadful-101/)
It's finally displaying! At least it is for me.
Arhra
02-22-2012, 03:13 AM
No throat-punching?
Sir, I am disappoint!
I just love the second panel.
Anyone taking bets on whether SpiderBurke is also going to show up?
BigDemonicBunny
02-22-2012, 05:39 AM
No throat-punching?
Sir, I am disappoint!
I'm not. I'm waiting for something more brutal/inventive.
bananarama
02-22-2012, 08:08 PM
Erin apparently lost her gloves between panels 3 and 4. Not nitpicking; I just noticed it myself.
MSperoni
02-23-2012, 02:38 AM
She didn't lose her gloves, I just didn't fill them in with black because they were in front of her black wings and therefore couldn't be seen had I done so. If you notice how sometimes I make her wings white? (Look at Panel 2 and Panel 3 on Page 100). It's the same principle. I sometimes don't like leaving a "white outline" around black shapes over black shapes for separation purposes and so will just leave them white.
It's nothing too radical, Jeff Smith does it a lot in his comic "Bone" for instance.
bananarama
02-23-2012, 04:18 AM
Ahh makes sense. I am no artist, but out of curiosity, would using a white borderline also work? I have wondered how to best show a black object on a black background.
MSperoni
02-23-2012, 07:31 AM
Yeah, a white outline will work. I do that every so often myself, but sometimes I think it doesn't look right, so I will do it this way instead :)
I suppose it's just a matter of preference, though changing something that is black to white can sometimes lead to some confusion since it's not visually consistent (like in this instance). It seems that I see the white outline a lot more than I see things changed from black to white, so maybe that's the ideal method.
Doctroid
02-23-2012, 09:21 AM
I don't think the gloves are missing, they're just drawn black in panel 3 and white in 4. Since the art is (mostly) black and white, some things presumably of an intermediate shade get drawn white against black backgrounds and vice versa. Erin's wings, for instance; they're black in 101 but white in 100. Her gloves have been handled that way before too, for instance in 86.
MSperoni
02-23-2012, 12:47 PM
Page 102! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/23/the-dreadful-102/)
Finally some magic action!
Awhile back on Twitter, I asked everyone if they preferred "fire" or "ice" magic, well...page 103 shall reveal the winner!
(Twitter didn't really determine the magic I chose, I had already made up my mind, but I asked everyone anyway just to hear their thoughts on it. It worked out conveniently because more people chose the one I chose)
(also we're just doing two pages this week. There will be a special week where I post 3-4 pages coming up at the end of this chapter :) )
BigDemonicBunny
02-23-2012, 07:01 PM
I prefer throat-exploding explody magic! But I guess I'm getting that either way!
MSperoni
02-25-2012, 05:24 PM
It was a tough decision between fire and ice. Up until I got to page 102, I had my mind made up about it. Then, as I was laying out page 102, I thought the other might work better, so I had do some last minute adjustments.
But, I think the change was for the best :)
Page 102! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/23/the-dreadful-102/)
Finally some magic action!
Awhile back on Twitter, I asked everyone if they preferred "fire" or "ice" magic, well...page 103 shall reveal the winner!
(Twitter didn't really determine the magic I chose, I had already made up my mind, but I asked everyone anyway just to hear their thoughts on it. It worked out conveniently because more people chose the one I chose)
(also we're just doing two pages this week. There will be a special week where I post 3-4 pages coming up at the end of this chapter :) )
I call ice.
MSperoni
02-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Page 103! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/02/28/the-dreadful-103/)
I call ice.
Correct!
Well.
This comic just got about 100% more awesome.
Also:
RAY OF FROST!
I agree with your appraisal. Ice magic is the best magic.
MSperoni
02-28-2012, 03:00 PM
I also felt that ice magic suited Erin and Ith better. Erin being the "icy sniper" type and Ith being a necromancer.
They were originally going to use fire, but it didn't feel like it was in character for them.
A Zarkin' Frood
02-28-2012, 03:25 PM
Was hoping for ice myself. Because I dunno, everyone does fire these days, I guess. So it's a little different.
BigDemonicBunny
02-28-2012, 09:26 PM
My desire for Throat-explosions has been remarkably unfulfilled.
Oh well, you can't have everything.
MSperoni
02-29-2012, 10:32 AM
Well...there's still the possibility for gore...
epcharles
03-01-2012, 10:14 PM
now, I know the guy looks pretty still in the last frame, but I'm not sure we are any better off with spider-slug animated dread-ice-zombies
MSperoni
03-02-2012, 10:47 AM
Page 104! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/02/the-dreadful-104/)
I owe Brian for inspiring me to create weird/gross sound effects. Like the kind "The Creep" from the early dayz of 8-bit made.
The translation here for Grundgutiger: "God in Heaven"
Or something to that effect. IG suggested it as an alternative to "gotten himmel". (though I was told it's actually "gott im himmel" :D)
EDIT: Also this might be fun to take a look at Behind the scenes (http://dreadfulpink.tumblr.com/)
Alanim
03-02-2012, 10:12 PM
Hopefully this next chapter includes them shattering the ice statue while preserving the arm and beating the worm thing down with it like a club.
DO IT.
Also, wow that thing looks scary, thanks for the behind the scenes look :P always enjoy those.
MSperoni
03-04-2012, 03:40 AM
A new post at Pink (http://dreadfulpink.tumblr.com/).
I'll leave it up to you all to speculate about what the hell is up with it :D
A Zarkin' Frood
03-04-2012, 09:19 AM
Hey Matt, if you want more inspiration from reality, check out this (http://www.cracked.com/article_18871_12-things-youll-wish-youd-never-seen-under-microscope.html) article. It has all the horror.
MSperoni
03-05-2012, 05:38 PM
You keep changing your name. Who am I supposed to credit for my German stuff?
You should just be German "German" McGermany and then that'll let everyone know.
EDIT: I've changed my mind about the whole "German McGermany" thing. I've tossed my two cents into the suggestion box on the other threads.
MSperoni
03-06-2012, 01:34 PM
... shattering the ice statue while preserving the arm and beating the worm thing down with it like a club.
Called it.
Page 105 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/06/the-dreadful-105/)
I am quite enjoying The Erin and Ith Show.
Mr.Bookworm
03-06-2012, 06:08 PM
Translator's note: Stirb means die.
CABAL49
03-06-2012, 07:32 PM
Translator's note: Stirb means die.
I've been here so long I didn't even notice it was in German.
MSperoni
03-06-2012, 07:52 PM
I'm glad I stuck with Erin speaking some German. I don't think the original way I had it was a very good idea (with her speaking full German), because it was too much, but I think an occasional word here and there is fine. Besides, it helps separate her from Ith a little more.
A Zarkin' Frood
03-06-2012, 08:14 PM
I think I wrote about two or three paragraphs about that single word and some alternatives. Cause that's how I roll.
People, you don't wanna know how long my notes to Matt were when Erin had some more dialogue.
(Actually it was probably less)
Erin/Ith is/are becoming my favorite character/s, probably.
MSperoni
03-06-2012, 08:19 PM
Seems like the Emails are at their longest whenever Erin has to say a curse word.
A Zarkin' Frood
03-06-2012, 08:30 PM
Curses are a science man, there's no exact translation for any given curse, no no. Research needs to be done, an equivalent must be found, my mother must be asked, then I have to try to convey the complex nuances of German curses by using English words. My toughest challenge yet was to translate Mother Fucker, I did not find anything that satisfied me 100%. But I think that line got changed to something that has a pretty apparent translation. Still, it is my dream to find the perfect equivalent to Motherfucker in German. Hell, maybe now someone will reply to this post with the painfully obvious word I was looking for.
MSperoni
03-06-2012, 09:11 PM
I think we were going to have Erin say the equivalent of "Mother Fucker" where she says "Grundgutiger" weren't we?
Then I mentioned the "Gott im himmel" (?) and then you came up with grundgutiger as an alternative.
Alanim
03-07-2012, 12:39 AM
So would that count as a conjure ice club spell?
MSperoni
03-07-2012, 12:56 AM
In a way. Since it's a magically frozen limb I suppose it would count as a magic weapon, right?
Alanim
03-07-2012, 03:09 PM
In a way. Since it's a magically frozen limb I suppose it would count as a magic weapon, right?
I'd assume it depends on how you look at it. I'm more of a glass half full guy, so I'm going to say yes, it does count :P.
MSperoni
03-07-2012, 06:23 PM
I'm going to say that it counts if the story needs it to count.
Gitman
03-08-2012, 07:32 AM
So... what does "grundgutiger" mean? Google Translate is not at all helpful.
CABAL49
03-08-2012, 08:12 AM
Du sollst Deutsch lernen.
A Zarkin' Frood
03-08-2012, 10:09 AM
So... what does "grundgutiger" mean? Google Translate is not at all helpful.
Grundgütiger; Literally "all-benevolent one", englisch equivalents: Dear god, good lord, Jesus H. Christ, omfg and stuff. Generally speaking, a somewhat stronger religiously fueled exclamation of various things, often disbelief.
MSperoni
03-08-2012, 03:16 PM
It's probably the most spot-on instance of German yet in the comic.
Though I guess there can't really be any confusion about "stirb" either...
Gitman
03-09-2012, 09:22 AM
Grundgütiger; Literally "all-benevolent one", englisch equivalents: Dear god, good lord, Jesus H. Christ, omfg and stuff. Generally speaking, a somewhat stronger religiously fueled exclamation of various things, often disbelief.
Got it. Google would translate it as "basic kind." It also translated "grund" as "reason" among other things, and "gütiger" as "kind". I couldn't figure out how to put them together in any way that made sense in that context.
EDIT:
Du sollst Deutsch lernen.
Ja, natürlich.
MSperoni
03-09-2012, 02:27 PM
Page 106 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/09/the-dreadful-106/)!
The final page in Chapter 4! Hope everyone liked it. It went a little differently with its focus being on Erin, but I think it worked okay (I wanted to improve my writing and I thought a good way to do that was to keep this chapter relatively simple and more importantly focused).
There might be a "bonus comic" here after, but then I will get on to Chapter 5!
ElCone1979
03-09-2012, 02:40 PM
I think that you focusing on that single situation and not jumping back and fourth between character situations was a good way to continue. It would have felt awkward and/or confusing if you would had jumped from Erin/Ith to Kit to Elizabeth or someone else, especially if the events of one didn't directly affect or be directly related to the other.
MSperoni
03-09-2012, 11:01 PM
When I started the comic I had a lot of...stuff...that needed establishing and developing, not to mention I had to find my legs in terms of story and art.
I also pretty much worked page-by-page when I started. I had an idea where it was going, but not a concrete plan or an outline. That's why the first three chapters were all of various lengths.
What I should have done is spent the first few chapters establishing Kit and who she was before jumping smack into a plot with multiple-threads. I think there is a lot of good stuff in the first three chapters, and it's not hard to follow along, but if I had to do it over I would definitely focus more...
However, had I not done it the way I did, I probably wouldn't have come up with this Erin/Ith thing so maybe it wasn't a bad idea after all. This whole business with the dreadful turning whatever it kills into zombie-spawning nightmares makes the first part with Burke more significant as well.
Loyal
03-10-2012, 12:38 AM
However, had I not done it the way I did, I probably wouldn't have come up with this Erin/Ith thing so maybe it wasn't a bad idea after all. This whole business with the dreadful turning whatever it kills into zombie-spawning nightmares makes the first part with Burke more significant as well.
This does, of course, raise questions about the aftermath of the other times Kit has used the Dreadful.
MSperoni
03-10-2012, 12:56 AM
Seems like someone else (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2011/11/28/the-dreadful-079/) mentioned an "outbreak" as well...
Related incidents, perhaps? Am I speculating about my own comic? Do I know the answer? (yes)
Should I let the readers bring up these kinds of questions from now on? Probably :D
A Zarkin' Frood
03-10-2012, 07:31 AM
I've enjoyed this last chapter much more than the others. I mean, I enjoyed it before, but this was definitely an improvement.
MSperoni
03-12-2012, 02:35 PM
Just wanted to pop in and say that there will not be a page uploaded this week because next week we're gonna upload five pages in a row (one per day).
Then Chapter 5 will start the week after that :)
EDIT: We would have posted all five this week, but circumstance got in the way. Lousy circumstance....
rpgdemon
03-18-2012, 12:38 AM
This whole business with the dreadful turning whatever it kills into zombie-spawning nightmares makes the first part with Burke more significant as well.
OH SHIT! That's what's going on!
Mind = blown. It all makes sense now! Like, it all sort of jumped into place.
MSperoni
03-19-2012, 12:00 PM
The Dreadful is brought to you by... (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/19/a-paid-message-from-big-eagle-beer-01/)
Time for a very crazy advert!
CABAL49
03-19-2012, 12:03 PM
There is nothing happening there that I don't approve of.
Donomni
03-19-2012, 12:11 PM
The eagle breathes fire.
THE EAGLE BREATHES FIRE
Oh geez this entire week is gonna be so ridiculous.
MSperoni
03-19-2012, 12:18 PM
Oh geez this entire week is gonna be so ridiculous.
Yeah, in my opinion the fire-breathing eagle isn't the craziest thing in this :D
SaltyKracka
03-20-2012, 10:22 AM
Ohhhhhh. Oh YES!
MSperoni
03-20-2012, 11:51 AM
Page 2 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/20/a-paid-message-from-big-eagle-beer-02/) of the Big Eagle Beer advert!
I don't think that's how AK47s are supposed to be used...but I guess it works!
Arhra
03-21-2012, 02:29 AM
Oh, I'm a bit slow to see this.
So all unpatriotic beers are made by monkeys?!
I should have known!
Krylo
03-21-2012, 03:48 AM
They're made out of monkey piss, at that!
Big Eagle Beer updates are the best updates.
MSperoni
03-21-2012, 08:08 AM
Big Eagle Beer updates are the best updates.
Makes me wonder if I shouldn't have started the comic with this kind of 'insane' feel to it.
It's definitely a lot easier for me to write :)
MSperoni
03-21-2012, 09:18 AM
A new post at Pink (http://dreadfulpink.tumblr.com/).
Clearly this is my greatest drawing ever.
MSperoni
03-21-2012, 09:35 AM
Oh Snap! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/21/a-paid-message-from-big-eagle-beer-03/)
Usually new pages don't go up till around noon, so we got an early one today!
A Zarkin' Frood
03-22-2012, 10:20 AM
How is that one monkey man cut in two places of his face? It looks like it's just one slash, Berserk style. This is so very important.
MSperoni
03-22-2012, 10:21 AM
Page 4 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/22/a-paid-message-from-big-eagle-beer-04/) of the Big Eagle Beer Advertisement has been posted!
Who knew feathers could be so powerful?
MSperoni
03-22-2012, 10:22 AM
How is that one monkey man cut in two places of his face? It looks like it's just one slash, Berserk style. This is so very important.
Because it's Kit and she's a sexy badass who makes great jokes about the Feather Channel.
THAT IS A GOOD ENOUGH REASON!
A Zarkin' Frood
03-22-2012, 10:36 AM
Acceptable.
BigDemonicBunny
03-22-2012, 03:54 PM
How is that one monkey man cut in two places of his face? It looks like it's just one slash, Berserk style. This is so very important.
The first slash is by the sword. The second is caused by the sword created by temporal paradox of having that much awesomeness concentrated in one spot in temporal space.
As a sidenote, it looks like you had a lot of fun drawing this. But then, everything is better with monkeys. Except beer.
Kairamek
03-22-2012, 08:03 PM
I'm enjoying Kit in a bikini top FAR more than I should.
Krylo
03-22-2012, 09:33 PM
The Feather Channel? Heavy Pain?
Is this what happens when I'm not in here forcing you to make dreadful puns (teehee), you rechannel it into your comic?
MSperoni
03-22-2012, 11:03 PM
As a sidenote, it looks like you had a lot of fun drawing this. But then, everything is better with monkeys. Except beer.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I'm trying to keep this kinda feeling in mind when I work on the rest of the comic. I can't say that it will always be this insane, but I definitely want to turn things up a notch.
I'm enjoying Kit in a bikini top FAR more than I should.
I had a lot of fun drawing her that way, that's for sure!
The Feather Channel? Heavy Pain?
Originally I had one of the Apeloids shout "Jason!" (as a Heavy Rain reference) but I figured it was too forced and typical....which, come to think of it, is probably why I should have kept it in...
MSperoni
03-23-2012, 10:35 AM
NOW she tells me! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/23/a-paid-message-from-big-eagle-beer-05/)
Hope everyone liked the advertisement! Now we will get back on track with the real comic :)
EvilGardenGnome
03-23-2012, 04:07 PM
NOW she tells me! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2012/03/23/a-paid-message-from-big-eagle-beer-05/)
Hope everyone liked the advertisement! Now we will get back on track with the real comic :)
So.. what's the chance of getting the top panel as a wallpaper? :dance:
Donomni
03-23-2012, 09:14 PM
Originally I had one of the Apeloids shout "Jason!" (as a Heavy Rain reference) but I figured it was too forced and typical....which, come to think of it, is probably why I should have kept it in...
Tut-tut, Matt! Good punnery is all about being forced!
Also, enjoyed this week's comics! Although I still think the Fire Breathing Eagle was the best part.
MSperoni
03-23-2012, 09:32 PM
So.. what's the chance of getting the top panel as a wallpaper? :dance:
Hmmm...I might.
Maybe I could do a kind of donation drive thingie like 8-bit did back in the day. Like, I make the wallpaper, and then if people send me 2$ via Paypal I will send them the wallpaper as thanks.
But I'm not quite sure how to set something like that up.
EVILNess
03-23-2012, 10:06 PM
The "Oh Snap" bit was genius.
The whole thing was incredibly bad (So bad.) and over the top.
I loved it.
BigDemonicBunny
03-25-2012, 01:54 AM
I really like this last page. The first frame is evocative.
If I was going to cast Kit in a RPG adventure party Rogue is now no longer the only choice. She could also be a priestess of some sort of chaos/mischief deity.
Also, the last frame is really well drawn.
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