Beware The Batman... t'hell is this?

[Bells]

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Seriously man, i don't like being that guy that is always going "The old ones were bettah!" But... really, way to make the Batman sound like the freaking Punisher.

It's just a teaser, i Know... but teasers matter when making first impressions!

...wait...

Crime-fighting vigilante Batman teams up with swordtress Katana and his gun-toting ex-secret agent butler Alfred Pennyworth to face the criminal underworld led by Anarky, Professor Pyg, Mister Toad, King Kraken, and Magpie.

What? Dafuq is this!?

Yeah, sure... give the non-Lethal warrior 2 lethal sidekicks that can't kill because this is a kid's show... instead of pairing him up with the... oh i dunno.... 7 or 8 actual non-lethal sidekicks the man has had over the years?

Also... Alfred with a gun? REALLY? Bruce wayne should be super comforted to see his Buttler fighting alongside him just like the guy that killed his parents...

Why is Alfrend young looking? Why is Batman fighting Farm Animal Themed villains? What's up with the Katana Girl!? For fuck sakes is Weilding a Katana some sort of Racial trait? Does she have to be Asian to use a sort? What was her alternative Weapon during pre-production? A Bo Staff? Oh no no no... that's been done before by Robin... nice.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr211/Veidt/Beware_The_Batman_2013_promo.png


Guh, this annoys me to some seriously deep degrees... It seems that once again, DC only knows how to handle their IP's 2 out of 10 times or something like this when not on Comic Book form.

[Seil]

haha good joke bells, needs work though, too unbelievable

[Aldurin]

way to make the Batman sound like the freaking Punisher.

In all honesty that would be kinda awesome.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Alfred's a grown-ass man. Bruce would know better than to say shit to him about using a gun seeing as how Alfred used to be a soldier and all. Katana's an established character as are the villains that have been mentioned.

[Xellos]

I think that may be the worst looking animated Batman I've ever seen. Either it is the worst, or I've been spared in some way.

Also does Professor Pyg remind anyone else of the evil Doctor Porkchop? Oh...and I just realized that's a mask. Seriously? He wasn't mutated in some campy experiment gone wrong? He chose that look?! Of course I'm sure these are all pre-established villains and I'm just winding myself up for embarrassment.

I knew about Magpie, though.

[Intern Nin]

Also does Professor Pyg remind anyone else of the evil Doctor Porkchop?
I now know my life's mission. To meet John Ratzenberger and ask him to do a reading of this scene.
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[Locke cole]

I know Katana is an established character. And I know that these guys are in the comics.

...but they're just not Batman. Katana's a real character, but she's not Batman's sidekick. These guys are villains, but they're not in Bat's rogues gallery (usually).

[Bells]

Even if they are Canon, Which i know they are... this is stupid.

Stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuupid.

Alfred doesn't even conceal his identity! At least not in that poster...

And having Batman solving problems constantly to the side of 2 people trained and comfortable using Deadly Weapons just gonna make them look incapable (cause they can't kill anybody) or Batman looking like the Bard in a Group of 4 Warriors, he can be useful and even awesome from time to time, but you just know that's stupid.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that it's dumb.

These characters would work as occasional sidekicks, like The Brave and the Bold or Justice league, where Batman paired up with different people with different skillsets and complemented that with being Batman. Having him fixed with B Grade sidekicks and trying to build a show on that is just a lazy premise for sloppy work.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

All I know is that Batman's head in that poster looks like it belongs in a medical textbook on anencephaly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly) (Warning: Article pictures are pretty gross). Not exactly a good start to character design.

[stefan]

why the hell are they using pyg for this

that's like doing a saturday morning cartoon version of Silence of the Lambs

[Premmy]

And having Batman solving problems constantly to the side of 2 people trained and comfortable using Deadly Weapons just gonna make them look incapable (cause they can't kill anybody) or Batman looking like the Bard in a Group of 4 Warriors, he can be useful and even awesome from time to time, but you just know that's stupid.


Not that this doesn't seem off, but super-heroes and cartoon characters have been using lethal weapons in non-lethal means since forever. Like, literally forever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom#Costume_and_weapons)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c1/Phantomissue12mikebullock.jpg/200px-Phantomissue12mikebullock.jpg

[Lumenskir]

Katana's an established character as are the villains that have been mentioned.
As someone who has no idea who any of those people are, this sounds a lot like "Hey, they might look ridiculous, but they're old!"
Not that this doesn't seem off, but super-heroes and cartoon characters have been using lethal weapons in non-lethal means since forever. Like, literally forever
Well yeah, but many of them also are Not-Batman.* Seems kind of weird to say that this guy who builds his entire ethos around non-lethality is fine with his sidekicks using things explicitly meant to kill.

*NerdBlock: Yes, I know there's a panel from the 1940's where Batman shoots a guy. I'm pretty sure that's been discontinued, along with exhortations to punch out the Japs.

[Magus]

I feel like we've had this conversation before. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=40826)

I actually think the art style in those posters is way better than what I imagined in my head the first time I heard it, though, so it's probably better overall than I imagined as well.

Basically it's designed more along the lines of those who enjoyed Batman: The Brave and the Bold, as opposed to those who enjoyed more serious fare like Justice League. It's just a different style.

EDIT: I still think the Super Best Friends Forever is a pretty terrible idea, though I have to admit had it been called anything else it wouldn't have caused me any consternation.

[Premmy]

Well yeah, but many of them also are Not-Batman.* Seems kind of weird to say that this guy who builds his entire ethos around non-lethality is fine with his sidekicks using things explicitly meant to kill.

*NerdBlock: Yes, I know there's a panel from the 1940's where Batman shoots a guy. I'm pretty sure that's been discontinued, along with exhortations to punch out the Japs.
You're right,Batman has never worked with heroes (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/Green_Arrow_60_cover.jpg/250px-Green_Arrow_60_cover.jpg) that use lethal weapons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdyN9impSII) in a non-lethal way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY3nEo6bfR8) before. He certainly doesn't use them himself (http://walyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/cool-batarang-replicas-are-a-must-have-for-batfreaks.jpg). I mean, the man from gotham (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iSKEZA8PQ) stands for (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsL9fMt61Mw) justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante_justice)Plus, what does this katana chick even have to do with (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSKf6cKdv_s) Batman, amirite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsiders_%28comics%29)?

Ahem, the point here is you can say "Who cares about these characters" you can say "Batman wouldn't use guns" but it's pretty inaccurate to say him working with these people is horribly out of character since the only familiarity most people have involves him working with these exact types of characters. Further.

You're vastly under-estimating the potential lethality of most super powers, Superman is more deadly than anyone with a gun. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_5UwS57X8) Every superhero is a person using potentially lethal methods non-lethally. Because we know what a gun or sword can do we automatically assign more lethality to their "appearance".

thusly the guy bringing the gun to the fight is there to kill someone.
http://www.queeky.com/sites/default/files/images/qky1.png
but not the guy who has squashed someone under a bus

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/51/5128/MVXEG00Z/posters/ultimate-x-men-96-cover-colossus.jpg

[Magus]

Beware the Batman sends confusing signals to us. It acts all coy and arousing with its guns, but then throws in our face a villain who wears a pig-mask. And not even in a kinky Texas Chainsaw Massacre way.

[Premmy]

Beware the Batman sends confusing signals to us. It acts all coy and arousing with its guns, but then throws in our face a villain who wears a pig-mask. And not even in a kinky Texas Chainsaw Massacre way.

Did you not listen to the Video linked on the first page?

[Magus]

Listen to videos? I think not!

EDIT; Hmm, well if you expect him to be a serial mutilator in this show...then again, they did it on X-Treme Ghostbusters back in the day and got away with it.

ANOTHER EDIT: Is this from the new Batman and Robin because I'm annoyed that I've fallen that far behind in reading it. I assume it's from the Batman run with Dick Grayson/Damien as Batman and Robin, right?

[Locke cole]

Right. It's apparently from the stuff that spun from Batman RIP.

[Magus]

Right. It's apparently from the stuff that spun from Batman RIP.

The face peelings reminds me of the new run of Detective Comics, too, so apparently they decided Professor Pyg's schtick was a good idea to continue.