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Bells
05-27-2012, 04:14 AM
First time in a LONG time that an episode had me honestly sad just to put a smile on my face right in the next few minutes.

The last season had a few issues, pacing wasn't that good... i think they could've easily put House X Wilson stories overlapping over the whole season and it would be much more powerful...

really didn't felt like a "Final Season" until the last 3 episodes... but oh boy, those were good.

I truly, truly enjoy this show. I honestly think it's one of the best things to appear in TV for the last 10 years, and it actually makes me a bit sad to see that several of my favorite shows are starting to look heavy in the season's numbers and could also be ending (Supernatural and Burn Notice for example)

I don't wanna start with spoilers in case someone hasn't seen it yet, but it's a show i can honestly recommend. Go watch it, you'll be better for it.

Go. Watch House.

BitVyper
05-27-2012, 05:05 AM
Hahahaha man, this entire season was awful, and the last episode just brought it to a whole new level. Like even Death itself is enabling House. The whole episode was just weak as fuck too. Like season 6 had a powerful finale. This was just more House-gets-away-with-literally-anything.

As always, the series handles addiction fairly well, but man oh man was everything else bad. I mean this was soap opera bad. We literally saw a building collapse on House, and he is perfectly fine. Not only is he perfectly fine, but he somehow manages to switch a guy's dental records with his own to get a false ID without being caught so that he can fake his own death, and he does this offscreen.

Series should have ended two seasons ago. The only thing of worth in seasons 7 and 8 was the development of Dr. Chase. Everything else was just... like back when my friend and I used to watch ages ago, we always joked about how one day it would jump the shark and House would be kidnapped by aliens or something. THAT would have been less stupid than like, everything in season 8, and most of season 7.

Speaking of Dr. Chase, note that how the character who actually has to deal with the consequences of his actions once in awhile ends up being the most interesting guy. Christ, even Foreman was somehow getting away with anything. He got caught fixing a clinical trial, and they gave him the hospital.

Edit: I almost want to give the final season some points for having a female doctor that is not conventionally hot, but then they made her weird and stereotypically socially awkward too, so she ends up being a walking gag. OH WELL.

Bells
05-27-2012, 12:02 PM
The entire series tries to mirrors Sherlock Holmes, the last episode was directly related to that, just, instead of battling his nemesis on a dam and falling off, House battles himself in a burning house. what's more slowly deadly and self-destructive than a Burning house? The analogy is perfect.

Hell, even house falling through the Ceiling is an Analogy. The transition of Purgatory to Hell. on the Upper floor he was battling his Subconscious (2 dead people, his Obsession and Apaty to others as Amber, his Curiosity and apathy to self with Kutner), then he falls down and has to face a deeper truth (2 living people, his desire of salvation vs his desire for Penitence)

The entire point was that House never had any possibility of salvation, he always screws up... up to the very point where, without any outside help, forced with the idea of living without Wilson, he has to come to the final conclusion that "I can change", that's the only thing House could ever do to have any sort of salvation... a "happy ending" just would never work. But something that is so minor to everyone else, to House, is a huge flip on his entire worldview.

I totally Agree that Season 6 and before were at a higher level, but i still feel season 7 and 8 were somewhat decent. With the actress that plays Cuddy leaving the show, they had their hand somewhat forced on how the story was going to go anyway...

Ecks
05-27-2012, 01:48 PM
everything after house went to rehab was shit
in my opinion, anyway

please commence accusations of being a plebeian and having shit taste in television

Lumenskir
05-27-2012, 02:19 PM
please commence accusations of being a plebeian and having shit taste in television
If someone is holding up House as the paradigm of television you can be safe in the knowledge that you are not the plebe in the conversation.

Honest question: Now that the series is over, has anyone yet made the definitive supercut of all of the patients bleeding from their eyes/orifices where blood shouldn't come out?

Bells
05-27-2012, 02:29 PM
Wouldn't be better cut be showing people coughing blood? Just in the 8th season alone i recall a hald dozen cases

Professor Smarmiarty
05-27-2012, 02:55 PM
Q: Why would you be watching House when you could be watching
1) Fry and Laurie
2) Blackadder
3) Jeeves and Wooster
It is mathmatically Hugh Laurie's worst show.
It's like saying "Let's watch some Orson Welles" and chucking in Transformers the movie- if transformers the movie wasn't awesome.

Bells
05-27-2012, 03:09 PM
Mostly cause i honestly think it's a great show and a couple of bad seasons out of a 8 year run doesn't mean it stopped being a great show, just that it had a couple of bad seasons, sadly, the last ones.

BitVyper
05-27-2012, 04:48 PM
It's like saying "Let's watch some Orson Welles" and chucking in Transformers the movie

Hey fuck y-

if transformers the movie wasn't awesome.

Oh. Okay then.

Lumenskir
05-27-2012, 05:46 PM
Mostly cause i honestly think it's a great show
If you don't mind me asking, what were the qualities that made it a 'great' show for you? I watched the first two seasons, sporadically kept up with the next two, and then watched whatever was on syndication when I was bored. Aside from Laurie's performance (which, while quite good, isn't anything that unique from other modern day Sherlocks) it always just struck me as a pleasant, comfort food procedural to have on in the background while doing something else, but people across the internet act like it's a blowjob in TV form.

Bells
05-27-2012, 06:07 PM
i'm never that extreme with TV Shows, if someone were to ask me what are my favourite shows my list would be

The West Wing
House
Burn Notice

I don't add in comedies like The Big Bang Theory, cause the appeal shines off over time, as it did with Seinfeld, Friends, Perfect Strangers, Wings, Taxi and pretty much most comedies shows i've ever watched it... but if i had to suggest series for friends the 3 above would always be mentioned every single time.

For me, what works is a combination of things... sure it's a procedural show... actually most of season 8 was pretty much "Fuck the medicine, this is about House and Wilson". But i like the characters. I like how most of them are people i can disagree with in and at the same time respect and admire, i love the humor, as i always loved a good well placed dosage of comedy in the shows i watch (hence my previous list...)

It's really a show that works best if it hooks you early and keeps you to it, it gets better as you start to get the full picture and the subtle moments of the characters. House says a LOT when he is not saying anything at all, but that's a thing i think most people would only notice by watching multiple seasons.

All and all, you feel for the characters, their wins feels like wins, their defeats really feel like defeats. Their mistakes truly feels like mistakes (even if they get magically fixed over plot points).

And, well i dunno... i kinda enjoy seeing how these characters where and acted before they started working with house and how they ended up being like. They still feel like their own characters, but you can kinda see how House rubbed off on some of them. Some in major ways.

you are right though, it's a pleasant show, comforting. To me, it's leagues above other drama-procedurals of the same era, and there were hiccups along the way, but i see 5 Awesome seasons 1 lukewarm one and 2 Subpar ones, also a little spoiler:

And seeing House flip on his worldview, allowing himself to change and them giving up his entire life work just to be there for his best friend when it matters the most... it's a fitting ending, a good ending. House is a bittersweet show, so i'm okay with a Bittersweet ending and a little Deus Ex Machina.

BloodyMage
05-29-2012, 03:36 PM
While I'm hooked (or was hooked, considering it's now over), I wasn't always that way. Once upon a time, I'd only watch it while flicking through channels or as background noise as Lumenskir suggested, but it was the season 1 episode Three Stories that really hooked me.

Sure, House was pretty much just a modern day Holmes but rarely do you see Sherlock Holmes as anything other than a criminal detective. I liked the medical twist and I thought Hugh Laurie played the role perfectly. He captured the moments of drama with sincerity but he was also able to apply his well developed comic timing.

And I feel like a lot of what the other characters do and say is meant to be taken in regards to how they've been affected or influenced by House. Like, Foreman getting away with crap that House would get away with makes sense after you realise that he's been trying not to become like House since Season 2 and since Season 4 it seems like he's resigned to it. People that leave the show are either dead, like Kutner and Amber, or are trying to get away from House, like Stacy and Cameron.

Obviously, it's not all perfect but you would never watch any television show if you demanded absolute perfection from every single episode and season. In an overall sense, it was a great show that took the standard medical drama and added an entertaining twist to make it stand out among everything else.