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Bells
08-01-2012, 12:26 AM
So, this is an interesting noggin i just stumbled upon...

I had no information whatsoever about this movie and book series, so i go to That Guy with the Glasses. Just checking the latest videos... and there is this one with the Nostalgia Chick about Ender's Game that is pretty recent... so, Ok, i'll watch it...

It's 12 min long if you care to take a look, and i suggest you do so

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/36063-enders-game

And here is the IMDB for the movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1731141/

Harrison Ford... Ben Kingsley... Gavin Hood is the directo, same guy behind X-Men Origins Wolverine... and not that much else, really... mostly Tv Related stuff...

Seeing how this ties into that whole "Chicken Fillet" stuff that has been going on recently, i'm now led to believe that liking it or not, i'm going to hear about this in the coming months... and it wouldn't surprise me if we all we're hearing about this soon enough...

So, this is interesting... something i wasn't aware of... But i'm not 100% sure to what make of it, so i'm looking to bounce back some thoughts on this one...

Locke cole
08-01-2012, 01:42 AM
Interesting. I liked the book a lot, though as for the sequels, I preferred the Shadow books to the Xenocide books.

It's also one of those awkward things were I like the book, but then find out later that the author is kind of a jerk.

But I'm babbling. The book is good, and could potentially make a very good movie. All depends on how much time they spend on certain aspects of the story. The Null-G chamber is cool, but those scenes aren't the most important bits. Really, the more important bits are Ender's development as a leader (which is demonstrated in the Null G chamber later) and some of the more disturbing scenes showing his ruthlessness and psychological issues.

Also, I've got the distinct feeling that they may end up changing the Locke/Demosthenes plot quite a bit, if they give it any screen-time at all. Considering the way the Internet developed since the book was written, it may be a bit weird for modern audiences to see Ender's brother rising to power because of his message board persona arguing about politics, if that one XKCD comic is any indication.

Magus
08-01-2012, 05:01 PM
How in the world does this tie into "Chicken Fillet" stuff?

Is it because Orson Scott Card is homophobic?

What's funny about that is Ender's Game is one of the most homoerotic novels I've read.

Professor Smarmiarty
08-01-2012, 05:26 PM
what is this book about? and will Smarty think this movie is ace (1 on the smarty scale) or shit (fat old 0).

Locke cole
08-01-2012, 05:58 PM
Basic plot is like this:

It's the future. Earth has been beset by two Invasions from an alien species called the Formics (commonly called "Buggers" due to their insect-like nature, and as a slur) The First Invasion was an extremely sudden strike at Earth itself, and the Second Invasion was a set of gratuitious space battles near Earth. They were driven off in the Second Invasion, but they're still out there.

There's this military training program called Battle School in space where children can, if they're deemed physically and psychologically proper for it, be trained (for years and years away from their family and a normal life) to be part of the Earth's military (it's one of those Zero-Requiem-style things where Earth's nations are united in hatred against a common foe, but with nowhere near Geass's level of optimism for what will happen after the threat is dead), and prepare for an inevitable Third Invasion from the Formics.

Ender Wiggin is a Third. That is, he's the third child of his parents, in a time when Earth basically has a mandatory family size limit of two children, due to overpopulation. Obviously, life has not been easy for him because of that. The story begins with Ender being told that he's a proper candidate for Battle School (whereas his sister was determined to be too much of a bleeding heart, and his brother a bit too much of a violent psychopath (Ender's just enough of a psychopath).)

Now, that's the story as one knows it at its outset. It's one of those stories where a fair bit of stuff gets plot-twisted by the end.

Ecks
08-01-2012, 05:59 PM
i loved enders game, both the novel and marvels graphic novel adaptation. heres hoping it doesnt suck (ford better play colonel graff).

also smarty has a binary scale. this is awesome on some sort of level.

Professor Smarmiarty
08-01-2012, 06:23 PM
also smarty has a binary scale. this is awesome on some sort of level.[/color]
I'm postmodern as fuck- it's the only conclusion. What's the points of stars 1-4?

Man this story sounds dumb- you don't need to train dudes for years and years, you give them like a month teaching them how to savour the look in a dying mans eye and to follow your every order, give them a rifle let them go nuts.
Has full metal jacket taught us nothing.

Bard The 5th LW
08-01-2012, 06:56 PM
Man this story sounds dumb- you don't need to train dudes for years and years, you give them like a month teaching them how to savour the look in a dying mans eye and to follow your every order, give them a rifle let them go nuts.
Has full metal jacket taught us nothing.


If I remember correctly, it was training most of those children to be commanders, generals, and other higher ups as opposed to just plain ol' infantry and other shootymen. I don't think Infantry was even a concern seeing as how it was spaaaaaaace.

Locke cole
08-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Well, maybe not most. Command School is like, extra stuff. But yeah. But otherwise, Bard, you know Smarty wasn't serious, right?

I mean, taking Fullmetal Jacket as a model?

Bells
08-01-2012, 08:09 PM
anybody wondering what the problem or the connection with Chicken Fillet is, could just click on the link i provided. Again, 12 minutes... but good insight.

Bard The 5th LW
08-01-2012, 09:12 PM
Well, maybe not most. Command School is like, extra stuff. But yeah. But otherwise, Bard, you know Smarty wasn't serious, right?

I mean, taking Fullmetal Jacket as a model?

I know he wasn't serious about the fullmetal jacket bit, just trying to clarify the other part.

Magus
08-01-2012, 09:49 PM
They're being trained in commanding entire armadas of spaceships, tactics, etc. Most of their days are spent battling other teams in zero-gravity simulations of battles, playing battle simulation video games, etc. There's some other funky stuff going on (involving another video game) but again, it's something you kind of have to read yourself.

Anyway, it's basically sci-fi canon at this point, on par with I, Robot or whatever. Just read it sometime. I got it at the library last year and enjoyed it quite a bit.

Magus
08-01-2012, 09:58 PM
anybody wondering what the problem or the connection with Chicken Fillet is, could just click on the link i provided. Again, 12 minutes... but good insight.

Why didn't you just say, "Yes, you were exactly right," since what I said was exactly what you meant? I.e. Orson Scott Card is homophobic (and maybe fascistic/objectivist, etc. and the later books are usually simply cited as SPACE MORMONS) but the book was pretty good anyway (and oddly homoerotic, thus contradicting his supposed worldview, but that's another story). Instead you just made me watch yet another video! YET ANOTHER VIDEO

Locke cole
08-01-2012, 10:54 PM
Ah yes, that other video game. The weird, virtual reality, psych-profiling thing.