What is this? (A Superman/Wonder Woman Makeout thread)

[Tev]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/supes.jpg

Did I miss something? Did Wonder Woman and Batman break up? What's Superman doing with his tongue down Wonder Woman's throat?

Here's a short article about this madness (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/superman-wonder-woman-justice-league-official-kiss_n_1833367.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment):
Though this may sound like a perfect recipe for a one-time, heat-of-the-moment tryst, "Justice League" writer Geoff Johns told Entertainment Weekly that this super romance is the real deal.

“This is the new status quo,” Johns said, adding that the relationship will have a big impact on all the characters in the series.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I give it a week.

[Bells]

Diana instead of Lois Lane....

There is about 100 "Super Sex" Jokes that can be done about this.

Still... Batman X Wonder Woman, to my money, is a much more interesting story to explore.

[Meister]

Rehost that image.

[Tev]

Rehost that image.
Fixed.

[Amake]

There is about 100 "Super Sex" Jokes that can be done about this.
Unfortunately Frank Miller already made them.

Yeah, this romance has been done before, in a number of alternate timelines and with a number of various alternate company equivalents. It's good for about a week of funny superpower sci-fi sex stories, but it's too boring to last. Certainly it would be in character for Superman to become a perfect family man, responsibly raise a raggle of super-rugrats and set the standard for white hetero marriages, and I don't suppose it would be unthinkable for Wonder Woman either. (I don't really know what kind of character she is, and I doubt there's three of her writers who would agree with each other about it.)

But it's not going to make for interesting reading. I expect one or both of these lovers are going to have to act like dumbasses for there to be any point with their relationship dramaturgically speaking. They're inevitably going to become lesser characters - either because they break up too soon or not soon enough. In the hands of a very good writer this could serve to humanize these iconic characters, but, well, that's pretty much directly contrary to both the basic idea of Superman and the basic philosophy of mainstream DC Comics. Not to mention the distinct lack of very good writers being involved.

So I expect it's more of a cheap grab for cheap drama to boost sales with a lot less forethought put into it than Mr. "This is the new Status Quo" Johns wants to admit.

[Magus]

I think it was Mallrats where the characters had an argument over whether Superman should marry Lois Lane or not. The one character goes, "He should marry Wonder Woman. Only her womb is capable of containing his Super fetus without killing her."

[mauve]

Oh my gosh that cover is so ridiculous-looking. XD

I dunno. Maybe Superman is tired of having to rescue Lois every twenty minutes and wants to be in a relationship where he's not constantly babysitting his partner.

[Tev]

Oh my gosh that cover is so ridiculous-looking. XD
WW: "Tell me the truth Clark; are you just making out with me for the fan response?"
SM: "Yes...I mean...nnyyyes...stupid lasso of truth!"

[Magus]

Oh my gosh that cover is so ridiculous-looking. XD

I dunno. Maybe Superman is tired of having to rescue Lois every twenty minutes and wants to be in a relationship where he's not constantly babysitting his partner.

If you notice they are not actually quite kissing there on that cover. Is that going to be the "TO BE CONTINUED" cliffhanger, that they are ABOUT to kiss? Gotta get the fans to come back next month.

[Nikose Tyris]

...Everyone mentions lois, and yet no one mentions Steve Trevor?

I am sincerely shocked and a little hurt.

[Sifright]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/supes.jpg

Why is superman trying to break wonderwomans spine and crush her internal organs? She looks to be about two inches across where his hands meet talk about ouch. :crying:

[Dracorion]

It's okay Nik, Steve is dead.

[Bells]

It's okay Nik, Steve is dead.

in the new 52 he is Friendzoned apparently.

[Marc v4.0]

Why is superman trying to break wonderwomans spine and crush her internal organs? She looks to be about two inches across where his hands meet talk about ouch. :crying:

His other hand is at the back of her head?

[Bells]

all things consider, this cover is actually a bit modest with it's anatomy. Aside from WW Short-shorts that must be wrapped around her colon, it's actually fairly well done.

The only nitpick i have is that right behind her back you can see her lasso in a knot.

That's going to be a bitch to untangled later...

[PyrosNine]

So...this means Supes is now into bondage? I know WW's been a fan for years, and I guess finally Clark came around.

The only problem I can see is that we're getting a pairing of Super boyscout and Super girlscout, and the authors are gonna have to come up with some lame excuse to make them at odds with each other so the relationship seems less plain bread- lame nerdy Peter Parker dates beautiful, fashionable Mary Jane (until RETCON) whereas Tall Handsome Noble Warrior of Truth and Justice dates Willowy, Beautiful Noble Warrioress of Truth and Justice.

As fiction demands all couples be unhappy with each other on some basic level, the writers will have to scrounge deep and petty to get some tension in the air. Like, make Supes a Democrat and WW a Republican, and have WW be really aggressive about having a girl. Also, when Supes goes to visit his mother in law, she attacks him with killer magic bees, and WW is like all "What do you have against my mother? I'm sure you guys can just get along."

And Pa and Ma Kent are fine, but passively aggressively drop hints at desires for a grandchild- and also drive Supergirl, Powergirl insane with their offhand remarks about how it's a shame neither of them have gotten hitched yet.

Prime pays off a prostitute to dress up like Wonder Woman.

As for Batman...now that WW's out of the way, he can finally hook up with Hino Rei!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4241108/sailormarsMartianManhunter.jpg

OTP.

[phil_]

I read these posts saying "a romance has to be shaky to be entertaining," and the small child between my ears who determines what cartoons I read keeps getting up from his crayons and screaming "Yandere Kanojo! Yandere Kanojo! Yandere Kanojo!" and then it takes forever to get him calmed down again.

I mean, this will probably suck, but brain kid generally doesn't give a crap about cape comics, anyway.

Sober Edit: Yandere Kanojo, by the way, is a gag comic where a boy and a girl start dating in chapter one (actually, chapter zero) and remain a happy couple from then on. There's none of that "We gotta break up" or "I hate you" stuff that is typical of comics about couples. Hence why I mention it. Also, the "yandere" part comes from Reina being a delinquent in love ("yankee" plus "deredere"), not from her being sick in the head.

[Bells]

man... now that you mentioned... Wonder Woman must be one hell of a Tsundere...

As for conflict, that's easy... Clark will reveal himself to be an old fashion "I save teh Damzewl in ThisTress!" until WW tells him to shove it.

[POS Industries]

SAs for Batman...now that WW's out of the way, he can finally hook up with Hino Rei!
Yeah man, I hear Hino Rei is totally out of this world.

[RobinStarwing]

...

They get married, have a kid...18 years later...

http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/630/13583/project_ako_poster.jpg

Redhead in the middle is a one-woman alien invasion stopper.

EDIT: Yes a reference to Project A-ko HAD to be made.

[Nique]

“This is the new status quo,” Johns said, adding that the relationship will have a big impact on all the characters in the series. add another element of stagnation and un-growth to DC's misuse of it's most iconic characters

This is 'The Death Of Superman'/'The Wedding of Superman' etc. all over again. Only not really even as good as those.

I'm going to make some sweeping generalizations here because I'm not 100% up to date on everything happening with Marvel & DC continuities but also because it is my God-given right as a comic book nerd to do so regardless; DC has a systemic problem, probably due in no small part to their history of sordid business practices that have lacked the same media attention that Stan Lee gave to Marvel's screw-ups. The above statement by Johns more or less confirms that it is DC's intention to mass-reboot their continuity frequently in ham-fisted money grabs (rather than as a natural consequence of running the same characters across decades, which is also bad but not necessarily greedy).

Like, come on, 'this is the new status quo'? Why are writers interested in maintaining a status quo, new or not? If someone wants to break up Lois and Clark and have the somewhat erroneous image of Superman as a paragon of monogamous values shaken up a bit, well, why not just do that? A 'status quo' does not need to be artificially induced (except when you want to flood the market with a new and needlessly convoluted continuity), it will simply happen as writers present stories that they want to tell within the existing continuity, and it should eventually change naturally.

As to the actual story of romance between 2 of DC's biggest brands - Maybe they never established 'Lois and Superman' in the new 52 continuity or whatever, and that's fine. But the idea of Superman and Wonder Woman together has always been more interesting as a background 'what-if' element, and actually putting them together in an ongoing continuity is almost as silly though not nearly as insensitive as Marvel pairing Storm and Black Panther.

[Bells]

it's actually really simple... this is not PR done to storytelling, it's storytelling done to PR.

A Writer (a self-respecting one at least) would never say something like "new status Quo" into a DC comic book. It makes no sense, it's a meanignless statement.

But it sounds just like the sort of thing a PR department would put together... like... Final Crisis.

This is what happens when a writer instead of creating a new and unique concept to explore is simply told "write this in... try to make it work, we want to shake up things a bit"

[Nique]

@ Bells - yeah, basically it seems like someone said let's keep escalating things because that is how you sell comics.

"This is the new status quo" from Johns could be code to the fans that he feels some remorse for selling out because, like, who would say that about a medium that's constantly critiqued for not introducing meaningful change and growth in it's flagship stories? Although maybe not because he is sort of a big muck-a-muck in DC now I think?

Like, actually I think Geoff Johns is a pretty alright dude and has participated in a lot of my favorite DC-based stuff I am just tearing that statement apart because it's dumb.