Iron Man 3 ! Now with interchangeable action armor!

[Bells]

Now all those toys that come out after every movie with a super hero where you have the Hero with some stupid color-coded armor that never appeared anywhere ever and it's just ridiculous improbable?

I think Iron Man 3 is going to be the first movie to actually validate that.

So, here we are... the premiere of Iron Man. The reviews are in, and if Rottentomatoes has any value to you, 95% fresh seems good enough...

Criticism exists... the first part of the movie apparently is slow. The overall movie is said to not be as tight of a package as the first two were, but an overall entertaining, fun, well made super hero epic.

Hey... i could expect much worst.

Also, the post-ending credits scene was already leaked, and i saw it and i'm going to say what it is right here. It is NOT spoileriffic, it is safe to read. But if you want the surprise for yourself, don't click it... the movie is already coming out just now, just go see it.

Essentially, Stark was telling the whole story to Bruce Banner, like it was some sort of Psychiatry appointment or sommesuch. But banner is asleep due to the boringness of it all. It is just a Funny extra.

However, it is NOT confirmed at this point if this is the same as the Avengers where there are TWO post credit scenes, so be warned.

This thread is for your commentary and reviews! Bring it!

[Japan]

Uh... its not out for like another 2 weeks right?

Right?

Let me fire up The Google.

Ok so yeah, a week and a half.

TOO SOON BRO

[Bells]

...really?

...cause... I'm watching it this saturday. already have the ticket and everything.

hold on... *checks IMDB*

Well, how'bout that... sheesh. Uk gets it sooner, most of south America and central america gets it sooner, the only people watching this after the USA is Poland... t'hell? Am i missing something?

[Japan]

I guess I do remember hearing something about it being released earlier somewhere that I am not.

Very well then, carry on. But realize that I'm flipping you the bird so hard right now.

[akaSM]

We're getting it next friday :3

Bells, we have to watch the movie and spoiler everything here right after that.

[Bells]

Oh surely we shall! I'll take pictures, and if that fails i'll provide crude drawings of the most awesome parts.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah, going to see this on the weekend with a friend. It's out today here, but the first 2 days are 3d only, and neither of us care about 3d.

And Bells I really hate you right now, I really want to click that spoiler text and see what it reveals, but I also really want to just wait and see it with the movie too.

[Magus]

The overall movie is said to not be as tight of a package as the first two were, but an overall entertaining, fun, well made super hero epic.

Well the second one could hardly be described as "tight", so this one is either an improvement or even worse.

Yeah, going to see this on the weekend with a friend. It's out today here, but the first 2 days are 3d only, and neither of us care about 3d.

And Bells I really hate you right now, I really want to click that spoiler text and see what it reveals, but I also really want to just wait and see it with the movie too.

It's not a big spoiler but I do have a bit of regret I clicked on it so you are probably better off not doing it.

EDIT: Like seriously just to bitch about Iron Man 2 a bit more, that movie had sixty subplots:

1. Tony's alcoholism/dying.
2. Tony's daddy issues.
3. Tony's love life issues.
4. Tony's legacy issues.
5. Tony's friendship issues.
6. Tony's political and military issues.
7. Two villains, one pointless, the other poorly handled.

That's the opposite of tight. If this one is "slower" it probably means its better...or worse.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

To be fair most of those issues can be said to have stemmed from the fact he was dying and was trying to get his successors (Pepper and Rhodes) set up to take over his legacy at Stark Industries and as Ironman respectively. The military issues come from him just trying to continue down the path from the first film and not letting his tech fall into the wrong hands and him letting his ego get in the way because, yano, he's Tony Stark.

I will admit Ivan was poorly handly though, he needed a lot more screentime fighting Stark to make him into a solid threat.

EDIT; In somewhat* related news, I have just spent 2 days rewatching all the films in order to get in the right mind for this on sunday. My body is now prepared. I have also just read wikipedia and discovered to my horror/delight that Guardians of the Galaxy now has a release date for next year and Antman has indeed been greenlit. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about that last one.

*Read, not really at all.

[Bells]

Ok....

just... a sec...


GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Fuck...


i had a HUGE wall of text (spoilered of course) about this movie, i JUST saw it. Have a MILLION discussion points (and unanswered questions) but i just can't type that whole wall again...

i'll take it as the bait is given after you guys watch the movie... go see it. It's a good movie.

Then come back here and give me something, cause holy hell does this movie leaves a lot open for speculation...

Also... 2 things that MUST be in the avengers 2 because this movie allows for that to exist while never admiting


Pepper pots as Iron Woman. Has to happen. THis movie already wasted that opportunity.

Red Skull as the guy behind it all. Has to happen. Thanos needs a second gear Villain to be on the forefront.


Also here is a Spoiler out of context :

IRON MAN 3 : PARASITE EVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EDIT: Just one more thing. Semi-Spoiler for the villain.

When Ben Kingsley tells you "You never see me coming" you better fucking believe it. He is talking to YOU

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Just got back from seeing it. Good movie, better than 2, maybe not as great as 1, but still really good.

Only complaint; Mandarin is not actually Mandarin, or in fact the villain at all. There was all this build up in the trailers and the hints at the 10 Rings in the first film, then it all turns out to be fake. Does this mean AIM were behind the 10 Rings organisation in the first film, or is the name irrelevent? Seems wierd that they would do this with the guys major villain.

Also, post credits scene was hilarious. 'Nuff said.

[Bells]

Just got back from seeing it. Good movie, better than 2, maybe not as great as 1, but still really good.

Only complaint; Mandarin is not actually Mandarin, or in fact the villain at all. There was all this build up in the trailers and the hints at the 10 Rings in the first film, then it all turns out to be fake. Does this mean AIM were behind the 10 Rings organisation in the first film, or is the name irrelevent? Seems wierd that they would do this with the guys major villain.

Also, post credits scene was hilarious. 'Nuff said.

well, actually...

the Whole Mandarim deal was quite a bit clever. The trailers are simply downright deceptive. But it really plays off from the paranoia against "the other"... it's bittersweet. Cause Mandarin brings magic to Iron Man world, which makes sense now... but its also consistent with the Iron Man trilogy of Technological and political villains... all the while nullifying one of the most potentially blatantly racist character designs... making him a ruse is on the very least... topical.

The twist was well done, i really caught me off guard... cause during the whole thing you are there watching the madarin and it's... off. You just know something is not right.

And they even go the extra mile to let the audience know that this is in fact a clever ruse by having the Mandarin act like a fool while he doesn't know that stark is there. Just to let us know that he is in fact that misleading.

"you never see me coming" indeed.

Just to brush off on ONE point that pissed me off a bit...

The whole "parasite eve" Bio-Nano super powers... Pepper was infected, she is super. But in a single line of dialogue during an ending montage starks just says pretty much "but she got better" ... that was annoying.

Cause... they can use that device in future movies. But they never show in this one the possibility of that. So, she might still be super, and she might return as Rescue alongside Rhodes... but she might not. And if she does not... if they simply ignore her super Powers and the possibility of Stark making her a suit (considering that SHE is the sole reason for him to be making new an army of suits in the first place... just to protect her better) that would be a HUGE wasted opportunity.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

well, actually...

the Whole Mandarim deal was quite a bit clever. The trailers are simply downright deceptive. But it really plays off from the paranoia against "the other"... it's bittersweet. Cause Mandarin brings magic to Iron Man world, which makes sense now... but its also consistent with the Iron Man trilogy of Technological and political villains... all the while nullifying one of the most potentially blatantly racist character designs... making him a ruse is on the very least... topical.

The twist was well done, i really caught me off guard... cause during the whole thing you are there watching the madarin and it's... off. You just know something is not right.

And they even go the extra mile to let the audience know that this is in fact a clever ruse by having the Mandarin act like a fool while he doesn't know that stark is there. Just to let us know that he is in fact that misleading.

"you never see me coming" indeed.

I get that it was clever, and I get why they did it, but I just really wanted to see the Mandarin proper, with all the ring powers he has in the comics. Just feels like a kick in the balls.

Just to brush off on ONE point that pissed me off a bit...

The whole "parasite eve" Bio-Nano super powers... Pepper was infected, she is super. But in a single line of dialogue during an ending montage starks just says pretty much "but she got better" ... that was annoying.

Cause... they can use that device in future movies. But they never show in this one the possibility of that. So, she might still be super, and she might return as Rescue alongside Rhodes... but she might not. And if she does not... if they simply ignore her super Powers and the possibility of Stark making her a suit (considering that SHE is the sole reason for him to be making new an army of suits in the first place... just to protect her better) that would be a HUGE wasted opportunity.

They're not sure if Robert Downy Jr is returning in any future films, so they wanted to tie up all the Ironman related plotlines in case he doesn't. They left it a bit vague as to wether Pepper was cured entirely or if Extremis was just suppressed or whatever, presumably so they can work with it however they might want in the future should the pair return.

[Bells]

Here is a small non-spoil about this movie... does the soundtrack sound a bit dull this time around?

I clearly recall the soundtrack of 1 and 2 being very "rock and roll" while in this one... it's.. well...... very "Super Hero Epic-ish". Doesn't have the same punch to it...

[akaSM]

Needs more Stark hacking random fighter jets' sound system.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah I don't think I heard AC/DC even once this movie. They're basically Ironmans backing group by this point

[Nique]

Iron Man 3 fell so short in the character development department, which was a strong point of the first film, that it's actually embarrassing. There are some interesting ideas presented but really no follow through except for Tony Stark smirking into the screen and telling us "THIS SUBPLOT IS RESOLVED". We see a repeat of the same type of arc Tony went through in IM2, Character motivations are really unclear, the "twist" utterly destroys an otherwise extremely relevant and possible partial-trope-inverting villain and turns the whole scene into a terrible performance of 'who's on first'.

The one great thing about the film was showing a superhero have a series of break downs over doing something pretty crazy which absolutely makes sense and is way way better than having Spider-Man just kind of sulk for a while or whatever. These scenes were more of a sequel AND a better sequel to Avengers than the entire movie is to the Iron Man franchise.

That said, um, it was still more enjoyable than Iron Man 2 and still ranks as one of the best superhero movies ever by virtue of the filmmakers taking the source material seriously, and FANTASTIC performances which are of course some of the hallmarks of the entire Marvel movie-verse.

[Magus]

This movie was terrible objectively but certainly very enjoyable to watch.

[mauve]

So I saw Iron Man 3 in IMAX 3D today. And... well... sometimes it's a very good movie. Aaaand other times it's a very bad movie.

Robert Downey Jr is, as always, a great Tony Stark. He walks that fine line between likeable smartass and just plain jackass. A few of his scenes borderlined on too goofy, but never overly so. His interactions with other characters are enjoyable, although I really thought Pepper was kind of unusually bitchy at times. I mean, Tony admits, TO PEPPER'S FACE, that he's suffering from panic attacks to the point of not being able to sleep. He literally tells her that having her in his house is the only thing keeping him sane. And Pepper's response to that is "Yeah I know. Sexytimes now." Jeez Pepper! I know Robert Downey Jr. is hot, but daaamn! Sympathy, girl!

The plot, in general, seemed a bit confused as to what it was supposed to be. They threw in a lot of information, dropped some of it, ignored some of it.. and then threw in some more. It seemed hard-pressed to keep up with itself. And that led to weird questions about the plot, particularly for people like me who don't read the comics. The Iron Man suits don't need Tony's arc reactor heart to work? I thought that was a thing. Wait, Tony could just have his arc reactor removed at any time, he just didn't WANT to? Pepper can't use the repulsors or flight capabilities the first time she wears the suit but OH HEY NOW SHE CAN? Tony is suffering from panic attacks related to the Avengers fiasco in New York but then he just magically gets better after experiencing even MORE mentally scarring images??

Also: "Let's put the captive President into a NIGH INDESTRUCTIBLE SUIT OF ARMOR. We've already established that people other than Rhodes can take control of it and that it's REALLY HARD TO DAMAGE, so it's a great idea to put a hostage in it and use it as part of a death trap. He'll totally die. Yep. No way he could just USE THE DAMN THING TO ESCAPE, or even just put the visor down to cover his face and protect himself from danger. Nope."

That said, the special effects were nice, the 3D was nice, the dialogue and scenes that worked well REALLY WORKED WELL, and the post-credits scene was great. I also really liked some of the more quiet moments with Tony dealing with his own inner turmoil, or interacting with the kid in Tennessee. I enjoyed seeing Tony dealing with emotional consequences resulting from the Avengers movie. I just wish they had followed through with it a little better.

The reveal of the Mandarin being just an actor was a little disappointing. Mainly because the REAL villain seemed so shallow and boring. He was just a power hungry guy who had the ability to make super soldiers and turned himself into one (who can occasionally breathe fire when he remembers he can do that). His motivation was also a little unbelievable-- "Oh man, ONE GUY turned down my research proposal! Guess I'll interpret that to mean I should use my work for evil and someday make him and the whole world pay for this single minor setback. Yep, that makes way more sense than proposing my idea to other scientists until I find a less douchey supporter!" My sister was also disappointed that they never said anything about the Captain America logo tattooed on the back of the Mandarin's neck, even though they showed it off like crazy in all the trailers. Again, apologies for my ignorance if this is explained in the comics. I'm not much of a comic reader.


Also also, I've decided that Jarvis is the true hero in the Iron Man franchise.

[Magus]

To be annoyed at one element of the trailer is fruitless, since the entire trailer is designed to be as misleading/deceitful as possible. I don't think the tattoo was even shown in the final cut of movie at all, so....

Also I think it explains why Kingsley gave a such an odd/awkward interview to Colbert the other day, although at least part of it was Kingsley being Kingsley, I'm sure. He didn't want to give anything away was at least part of it, though.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Just got back from watching. I mostly enjoyed it! I even didn't mind the twist, in fact, I thought it was a good decision because why would you write what everyone who read the comics has already seen? It seemed to me like a good choice to make on paper because it leaves every viewer -actually- surprised.

The only thing that bugged me was how they played the Mandarin at the start. He was a villain entirely removed from Stark in every way. Tony didn't seem to really care about him at all. And then SUDDENLY once Tony's friend gets caught in a bombing 'its personal'. But, like, the bombing wasnt even meant to target his bodyguard at all. The dude was just there on his own volition. And after that they all act like Tony and the Mandarin actually have anything to do with eachother, and it makes Tony really seem like a jerk because it took someone that he knew personally to motivate him to stop the terrorist that had killed a shitload of other people.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

it makes Tony really seem like a jerk

Have you met Tony Stark?

[mauve]

And to be fair, Tony does say that he's only interested in protecting the people close to him after what happened with the aliens in New York. He's pretty done with saving the world. The government has their own Iron Man suit anyway.

[Lumenskir]

Man, that last action setpiece was just absolutely delightful, especially after the last two movies had been so dead set on "One robot dude punching another robot dude." Just when you might have started to get tired of FINISHING MOVE being met with "Ruh-roh-nope" you got 42 coming back wrong and mid-air suits getting derailed and it was all just fantastic.

Everyone here has seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, right? Because the whole middle section (and especially the "Two thugs glower over a captive RDJ") was basically a welcome KKBB quasi-sequel. At the very least, Shane Black for all future Iron Man dialog forever, this we can all agree on.

And while we're at it, James Badge Dale for all bad guys.

[Bells]

Also i think we kinda have to agree that a movie version of the Comic book mandarin would be racist as fuck... actually, to NOT make Comic-to-Movie mandarin a super racist caricature would be a destiny of never making the character as it really is.

I mean, the entire goddamn character is a huge stereotype to begin with! To play him straight would break the consistency of the entire trilogy (Iron Man still has to be it's own thing...) because of that and all the "suddenly, MAGIC!" stuff...

i WOULD like to see they somehow connecting Mandarin's rings to the Infinity gauntlet. That would be super awesome... but alas, it was not so.

[Lumenskir]

Has anyone been able to make a clean, downloadable version of Kingsley saying "Sum people call me a turrurist, I prefer to be called a teacher-rrrrrr" yet? Need it for my friend's new ringtone and my new everything.

[Glass Pencil]

Are we still doing the spoilers thing in this thread? I mean, its a thread to talk about a movie, I'm not really seeing the point in reading the thread about a movie that you haven't seen yet and then getting all jazzed up because somebody said something that you didn't know because why would you.

Guess I'll talk about the movie and see what shakes loose.

Ok first of all, I was a little bummed out with the way the suits were handled in relation to the other instances we've seen Tony throw down. The whole remote control thing was cool, the mind-control suit thing was cool, but in general the suits were set on wussy mode for the whole movie for some reason. I mean come on, I saw last year's model take a THUNDERBOLT IN THE CHEST FROM THE GOD OF THUNDER and keep ticking, how come a bunch of security guards on fire-roids can now manhandle suits that are at least a generation ahead of that one?

I can see how the climactic battle was something that people ostensibly wanted. The ending of iron man 2 really left me unsatisfied, I really could have watched Mickey Rourke being condescending in Russian for at least 10 more minutes. The whole ordeal was a bit too brief, but the battle royale ending in 3 really felt disconnected to me. I liked how they kept Tony out of the suit for the majority of the movie and the reasoning didn't feel too terribly contrived, but for goodness sake when he gets back into the suit can he please be Iron Man? Why is he wrestling with a dude who's superpower is being an exploding republican for a half hour? It should have been a tense sort of chase scene, running around trying to avoid getting one-percented and then BAM he's in the suit and the badguy is a charcoal briquette.

Although I did like Pepper saving the day at the end so it wasn't all a waste.

I was really curious as to how they would handle the Mandarin and to be honest they certainly didn't disappoint. The character as originally conceived is a terrible caricature with no real value. I thought, after seeing the trailers, oh hey they seem to have traded one thing scary to white people 30 years ago for a thing scary to white people right now. I was really apprehensive that they'd drive the whole franchise screaming back into anti-muslim fervor again like the first movie (which I'll admit I overlooked because OHMAHGERDZ IRON MANZ!!!!11!) but man, that twist was perfect. I never really conceived of simply throwing the entire character away in amazing, dramatic fashion as an option. Easily the best part of the movie for me.

The characterization of the actual villain was incredibly lacking however. I thought, immediately after watching the movie, that perhaps the presentation of such an obvious villain framework might have had some merit. The character of the villain is somehow intrinsic to the audience, I'm quite sure we all knew who he was the moment they introduced him. He is an archetype, an uncomfortable and two dimensional figment of consensus. He is the vengeful, angry outcast that men make fun of and women find creepy. In a lot of ways that is, of course, terribly lazy writing. However I think given the context (a superhero movie) its probably not the greatest sin to derive your villain wholesale from the subconscious of your audience.

Bland villain aside a liked a lot of the quippy dialogue and, surprisingly enough, I didn't want to punch a baby when they introduced the sidekick kid. The interaction between the kid and Tony was genuinely interesting and I think helped develop the character in new ways heretofore unseen.

I really felt thoroughly trolled when during the climactic battle the amazing new super awesome mind-controlled battlesuit managed to fail more spectacularly than it had all throughout the movie. There was no point in the entire movie when that thing actually worked properly, I kept expecting to see that moment when everything was totally cool and it worked the way it was supposed to, with lens flare and everything, but it never materialized and for that I'm kind of grateful. The most interesting aspects of this movie were the little middle fingers it was giving everyone watching it throughout. the entire film was an exercise in subversion in my opinion, it kept throwing your idealized outcomes and expectations back in your face until, by the end, you respond exactly like the character.

Oh fine whatever.

But in a good way, I guess.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Have you met Tony Stark?

Yeah, I think Tony is supposed to come across as an asshole throughout a good chunk of the movie. He's incredibly stressed out and suffering from PTSD. It's a different sort of dickishness than the one portrayed in the prologue, but it's dickishness all the same.

Ok first of all, I was a little bummed out with the way the suits were handled in relation to the other instances we've seen Tony throw down. The whole remote control thing was cool, the mind-control suit thing was cool, but in general the suits were set on wussy mode for the whole movie for some reason. I mean come on, I saw last year's model take a THUNDERBOLT IN THE CHEST FROM THE GOD OF THUNDER and keep ticking, how come a bunch of security guards on fire-roids can now manhandle suits that are at least a generation ahead of that one?

The suits were all prototypes of various sorts that Stark quickly made while he was sleep-deprived. He likely didn't run any sort of quality control on them, he just mindlessly churned them out and then stuck them into deep storage.

His previous suits were made while he was at the top of his game and he presumably took a great deal of care while making them.

The characterization of the actual villain was incredibly lacking however. I thought, immediately after watching the movie, that perhaps the presentation of such an obvious villain framework might have had some merit. The character of the villain is somehow intrinsic to the audience, I'm quite sure we all knew who he was the moment they introduced him. He is an archetype, an uncomfortable and two dimensional figment of consensus. He is the vengeful, angry outcast that men make fun of and women find creepy. In a lot of ways that is, of course, terribly lazy writing. However I think given the context (a superhero movie) its probably not the greatest sin to derive your villain wholesale from the subconscious of your audience.

I thought it was pretty interesting that Killian (rather off-handedly) says that the reason he became a supervillain (instead of just turning AIM into a defense contractor or whatever and making billions) was because of what happened in New York.

Gods, aliens, and monsters are running around the world, why can't an otherwise normal dude shoot himself up with experimental superserum and try to take over the US?

Oh, and I'll add my voice to the chorus saying that they liked the Mandarin twist. That was genuinely clever, I think.

[Lumenskir]

I don't think he wanted to "take over" anything though? I mean, didn't he say his end game was controlling the two sides of the War on Terror so that he could just set the supply and demand for his wares? His entire motive was profit + kicking Tony in the nards just cause.*

*Well, and because Iron Man and War Machine could undercut his monopoly.

I think the reference to Thor and the aliens was just to say that if his whole plan had been "Diffuse threat from Middle East" he wouldn't have gotten any public traction, but "Bombastic and clearly idiosyncratic capital-S Supervillain" was an easier sell in a crowded threat marketplace.

[Bells]

Yeah, Killian's plan was like a Kojima draft for a metal gear game (the only thing missing was NANOMACHIIIIIIINNNNNNESSSS instead of Parasite Eve powers). He is pretty much creating war economy by creating supply and demand.

He makes people regenerate limbs, when they explode everybody think it's weird, so he creates a "mystical villain" to justify, so he can make super soldiers with his stuff to fight off the invisible treat.

In a world of Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Iron Man and SHIELD... that is actually a sound plan for a super villain.

...beats Lex Luthor in Superman Returns...

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Not exactly the right thread for it but I figured this bit of news didn't really need an entire thread just yet, but Agents of SHIELD just had its first teaser released;

0yg_jaOPV_E

So, yeah.

Iron Fist and Luke Cage, confirmed?

[Bells]

in 2006 Agent Coulson was deep in his undercover disguise as Richard Campbell.

Married man, divorced, with a kid. He Broke off his marriage with Christine Campbell in order to protect her from his life in Shield. His secret cover of a super spy too much a burden for a common family to handle.

Aloof and always appearing distant, the perfect disguise that no man would ever suspect.

Later on, Agent Coulson managed to get engaged to another shield agent and brought her into the same facade as a way to keep contact with his son. Agent Christine Hunter managed to stay alongside Agent Coulson all the way, bearing his second child in 2010.

But On 2008 the game started to change when Agent Coulson was brought into a new world when Tony Stark emerged as Iron Man. Getting progressively more distant from his Goofy disguise of a normal life, coulson started to appear less and less in Christine's life as he and his bride to be were more immersed in shield business around the world.

Only two years after working in heavy SHIELD operations getting deeper into the world of the unkown, Agent Coulson seemingly met his fate in the hand of the god of Mischief Loki in 2012. His new born son only 2 at the time, even though is wife was a shield agent, like many, she was denied his true fate.

As in the end, Coulson was not dead. Not really. A Ploy, to motivate the World's Mightiest Heroes. The man who tricked the god of Trickery.

All Hail Agent Muthafucking Coulson.

[MFD]

Tor proposed that the superhero might actually be Patriot, which makes sense to me.

Sweet Christmas, I'd love Luke Cage, but I... well...

I thought he'd be taller. (Older, etc.) The superhero is too young and fresh.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Well, the verdict is still out on those two then, but it appears we may be getting Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (http://movies.yahoo.com/news/joss-whedon-confirms-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-appear-avengers-194423755.html) in Avengers 2. And no I have no idea how they're gona manage that without first addressing the mutant problem that it invariably brings up.

In other news it seems that Ironman 3 has made over $1billion and RDJs contract is in negotiations (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/marvel-cliffhanger-robert-downey-jrs-518837), which he is apparantly using to also try and get his co-workers better pay as well.