MLP Movie with 100% more Anthropomorphic Ponies

[Tev]

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I wonder if Snake saw this yet.

I wonder if this will fill him with rage like it did half the MLP fandom. Personally as a vetern and former Beyblade fan from back in the day. I've grown use to Hasbro's "good" ideas.Funnily enough, my roommate was just telling me about this not a few hours before I saw it here.

At the moment, I'm not sure how I feel about this movie. I haven't managed to read any of the potential rationals given as to why we had to go from ponies to people. I think this may damage their brand a bit.

Anyway, anyone else have thoughts on this?

[Locke cole]

Twilight attempting to eat like a pony, the quick shot of some sort of magical climax event with the crown, and the rumor that Sunset Shimmer is another displaced pony, acting on some sinister mission have assuaged my initial fears that this would be a bad movie.

Then again, I suppose it was dumb of me to assume the writers would shut their brains off when the art shift happened.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I want to read angry brony rants so I endorse this film,

[Locke cole]

I see no big issue with it. I doubt the mirror will become a recurring device in the main show, so I figure the biggest change might be one or two additional recurring characters back in the main show, if that.

[Flarecobra]

I'm giving it a chance. There was no change in the show staff, so it's the same crew that works on the show.

[Red Mage Black]

Funnily enough, my roommate was just telling me about this not a few hours before I saw it here.

At the moment, I'm not sure how I feel about this movie. I haven't managed to read any of the potential rationals given as to why we had to go from ponies to people. I think this may damage their brand a bit.

Anyway, anyone else have thoughts on this?

As is being already said, I don't think it's a permanent change either. Though from what I've read off-site, it's an attempt to appeal to another audience. What I find kind of laughable is on what someone posted as an excerpt from one of the staff, as I think the fanbase is less 'little girls' and more bronies than anything. I think I've yet to see as many of the former as I have the latter.

(Not to say that little girls DON'T watch the show or buy the toys, but they're a little less... vocal(?) about it.)

I want to read angry brony rants so I endorse this film,

Here here! Maybe I'll slip on in to /mlp/ today to see how they're taking it. Maybe I'll find some reasonable folks who can justify it to their brony bretheren.

I see no big issue with it. I doubt the mirror will become a recurring device in the main show, so I figure the biggest change might be one or two additional recurring characters back in the main show, if that.

Yeah, agreeing with this one. Saw some reviews that are basically stating, "It's the end of the world as we know it," for bronies. I never watched the show myself and well, it's just not my thing. Aint gonna judge anyone for watching it either. Adventure Time has a ridiculous enough fanbase just as well.

I just never understood the appeal of MLP:FiM to an older fanbase.

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[Bard The 5th LW]

I honestly don't know why anyone ever claimed the show was aimed at anything other than young girls? Like, I only ever watched the first season, but it obviously aims at a young audience. You could make the case that young boys could also watch it I guess. Like, it was certainly tolerable in comparison to other children's shows out there, but I don't think an adult male could ever claim to be the target in any way shape or form.

From what Im seeing this movie is entirely in line with their target audience.

I imagine one doesnt hear a whole lot from young girl fans because there's nothing notable about little girls watching a show aimed at little girls? And also they arent as populace on the internet?

[Locke cole]

If I recall, Faust intended for the show to be a girl's show that could work against the stigma of girl's shows being vapid or not worth watching. You know, make a show that, while primarily focused towards young girls, could appeal to a wider audience as well. I think she did pretty damn phenomenally at that goal.

So, ultimately, you're right in that older people and males aren't the primary target.

And it'd be stupid if they were, because I'd hate for the show to become something that younger girls wouldn't want to watch. There's no need to sacrifice a younger target audience when making the show appeal to older people (see also: Animaniacs, Freakazoid, Pinky And The Brain, Rugrats, etc.)

[Bard The 5th LW]

I think she certainly made the show accessible from what I've seen especially considering what she had to work with, I just think anyone that isn't a child who really wants to complain about this is silly.

[Locke cole]

Well, I think that people who watch it are entitled to their gripes and criticisms on how things go, regardless of age.

Now, when they start pulling the "The writers betrayed us!" card, that's when it's getting out of hand.

[RobinStarwing]

Well, I think that people who watch it are entitled to their gripes and criticisms on how things go, regardless of age.

Now, when they start pulling the "The writers betrayed us!" card, that's when it's getting out of hand.

Agreed. Though there are times when it is called for...


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But otherwise Fan Rage mostly equals Fan Dumb. I can appreciate their wanting to do something a little different and willing to reserve judgement till it comes out.

[Bob The Mercenary]

I'm really liking their character designs for the CMCs.

[Aerozord]

Its like I always said, I dont care who a show is targeted at. If its good its good. I dont care about targeted demographics

Now despite my avatar and the fact I did a MLP review show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qad66U-SyfQ&list=PL5EC00CD0C772F4AC) I would not call myself a hardcore fan. So if they take a chainsaw to the series I wouldn't bat an eye.

The idea in and of itself doesn't bug me in the slightest. My only concern is they are attempting the reverse of what made the show good. FiM was created with the assumption if you simply make a show good than it will market itself. When merchandise focused they focused on how to logically integrate it.

This comes off to me as designed by committee where they are doing what they used to and make something in and of itself a brand.

The one thing that does bother me abit is FiM did something most shows aimed at little kids fail to do. The main characters are not, themselves, little kids. They have jobs and responsibilities. They have to make a living to survive and there can be challenges with that. It gave children credit that they can handle concepts like that.

Lacking that doesn't make it bad. Just, that was a nice plus that I wish they didn't get rid of. I'd like them to take that a step further with young adults instead of teenagers.

[Locke cole]

Didn't A Canterlot Wedding happen basically because of a toy line focusing on the characters introduced in it?

Ultimately, I think that turned out alright, though this is something else.

[Bells]

The fan integration is so strong in this series that Derpy became canon.

At this point the Brony crowd is so loud i have no actual idea how much success this series even have with it's intended demographic. Sure, as girls may watch and enjoy Ben 10, Boys may watch and enjoy MLP. It doesn't matter, good storytelling is good storytelling. Besides, sometimes you just want to turn your brain off and pass 20 minutes watching something goofy with a positive message... so why the hell not?

[Aerozord]

Didn't A Canterlot Wedding happen basically because of a toy line focusing on the characters introduced in it?

Ultimately, I think that turned out alright, though this is something else.

Many episodes were like that, but allow me to use this as an example to elaborate. One of the issues of the episode was Cadence being an alicorn. Previously the only two we had seen were essentially gods charged with moving celestial bodies. Cadence... was a babysitter. Who, while potent, ultimately displays powers on par with a unicorn. This also reinforces the idea that princess=alicorn despite us already learning male royalty are simple unicorns. It would make more narrative sense and better world building if she was a unicorn.

Which she was, until Hasbro decided they wanted to sell their pink alicorn toys.

Contrast with crystal kingdom. Given time and creative freedom they were able to expand more on the world and its history.

[Locke cole]

Personlly, I liked seeing that she was an Alicorn who was not quite as realized in terms of power as Celestia and Luna. And latter we learned that she's not a natural-born Alicorn in the first place

Heck, she only has the weird-flowing-mane thingamajig gonig during the big love blast thing. To me, i all seems to point to the conclusion that she's just younger than Celestia and Luna, who have had millenia to amass power.

Maybe I'm just the kind of guy who can rationalize most things to himself, but variety in that species is a nice thing, in my opinion.

[Flarecobra]

I think this is about all that needs to be said, at least until the actual film comes out. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/05/an-appeal-to-fandom-keep-calm-and-trot.html)

[Tev]

I think I've pinpointed what makes me feel off about the animation style, and it's the characters maintaining their unnatural skin color as humans. Just a quick perusal of the fan-art community shows just how easy it is to humanize the characters.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/135fb2659817c26cc5278df82cd2e173/tumblr_mjfwdt20M61rpb34po1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/bbe3f4f91ce1f2097b89c90f86c6df26/tumblr_mj749kW6rp1rpb34po1_500.png
http://24.media.tumblr.com/de8067b53f689a20ba98e9a3f1e5142a/tumblr_mhsorelmTt1rpb34po1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76nzwpO741r1u7gdo1_500.jpg

But yeah, right now it's the art style that bugs me more than the plot, even though I do rather dislike the "beat the popular girl to win the pretty magic prize" story set in high school.

[PCD]

A quick look at the fandom and their humanizing of ponies shows that there's also a huge amount of arguments over what the proper race should be for each of the ponies. As weird as the unnatural skin coloring is, I think it's an effective method of dodging that particular bullet.

It's a bit weird going from a magical world of fighting monsters, doing magic, and drinking from ultra high-tech apple juicers, to what looks like a fairly generic "high school plot" of the Vs. Popular Girl mindset, feels like a bit of a downgrade--usually, when you make a movie, the stakes should feel higher than the show, not lower. It doesn't look terrible, just... a weird step to take. Who knows. What really has me weirded is the fact that afterwards they're going to do a spinoff show of it.

[Aerozord]

Another possibility is they are trying to grow with the audience. Thinking "little girls like ponies, older girls like high school drama".

[akaSM]

MLP now stands for My Lookatathatskincolor Person.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I can only conclude that the reason no one in-universe fusses over pastel skin tones is that MirrorUniverse!Equestria itself takes place within the Federation from Star Trek and that they're all aliens. Now if only one of the primary cast members were green.

That, or it's somehow tied into the Monster High universe.

[Locke cole]

Clearly, Equestria High is just down the road from Bluffington.

[synkr0nized]

MLP fans force everything to involve ponies, much like TF2 fans. Anything that ruffles their feathers is fine with me.

The linked video makes the story seem a bit vapid, but what's the harm in a band of gals doing gal stuff in a slightly different way? *shrug*

[Loyal]

A quick look at the fandom and their humanizing of ponies shows that there's also a huge amount of arguments over what the proper race should be for each of the ponies. As weird as the unnatural skin coloring is, I think it's an effective method of dodging that particular bullet.After the whole fiasco concerning "caucasian" Trickster Jane in Homestuck (which possesses one of the only fandoms whose volatility matches that of MLP's), this actually makes a lot of sense.

[Flarecobra]

Clearly, Equestria High is just down the road from Bluffington.

This makes things suddonly make a lot more sense for some reason.

[Aerozord]

That, or it's somehow tied into the Monster High universe.

while I didn't want to say it, I kind of assumed this was the exact market they were trying to break into.

[Tev]

while I didn't want to say it, I kind of assumed this was the exact market they were trying to break into.It's a pretty strong market right now too. So much so that other various popular doll lines are trying their hardest to rip it off to stay relevant.