This Rim does not look very Pacific

[Bells]

It's actually quite aggressive if i may say so myself...

Also this

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And hey! Pacific Rim is out!! It's july 12th and it's coming out... and every nerd on the web with a show of some kind that is worth it's bread and butter is gawking about it...

...and... kinda for good reason i guess (see above video... no, seriously. Watch it)

I mean, my opinion not withstading (me being Mecha Nut and all...) But i would totally want "Mecha" to be the next wave after "Super Hero". Hell, give me macross... give me robotech, mechwarrior, Evangelion, give me all of it...

I STILL think they make bad choices when they choose "movie physics" for speed and motion instead of "Anime Physics" for speed and motion... but i can live with that. if it's good... like this looks like it is, then it's ok.

Also, the need to have Robots mimicking human motions because it's hard to make a compeling story with a dude sitting in a cockpit for half of it... and the lights inside the helmet that only exists so their faces are visible to the camera.... those "Reality" nitpicks that grind the tiny gears of my "nerd engine"...

...hell, where is my Omega Boost movie ? That can work...


ANYWAY...

Pacific Rim... looks awesome, music sounds awesome too... i'm hyped! I want to see it... i want it to make a buttload of money. I want YOU to go see it so that it makes a butt load of money too!

[Ramary]

Oh man someone else remembers Omega Boost existed.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Saw it today. Good film. Dialogue was nothing to write home about, but I only really wanted to see some giant fucking mechs fight some giant fucking monsters and I was suitably satisfied on that front.

[Azisien]

That was some motherfucking rocket punches and mecha swords in stupid big dumb ugly godzilla monster faces.

[Magus]

Movie was great. Nuff said.

Favorite Kaiju was the hermit crab one.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

So apparantly there was a stinger at the end, which I totally missed.

[Magus]

Yeah it wasn't very far into the credits so I stuck around for it. Unless there was one way at the end, because I don't plan on sitting through the credits for anything but a Marvel movie from now on after I sat through the Man of Steel of credits for nothing.

[Bells]

So, just a question from someone who loves this stuff but hasn't seen it yet... room for a sequel?

[Magus]

So, just a question from someone who loves this stuff but hasn't seen it yet... room for a sequel?

SPOILERS

It would be possible, sure.

SUPER SPOILERS

There's an ending to the movie but it would be possible to have a sequel easily, the aliens would just have to reestablish the dimensional rift somehow (assuming they didn't all die in the nuclear holocaust), or maybe just some Kaiju laid eggs or something (although they apparently carry live young and they're all supposed to be genetically identical so not sure on that) and they hatch out and grow up and start threatening earth. Or maybe rogue states start breeding Kaiju of their own somehow. Or maybe the sequel could have the robots fighting some new threat.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I'd suspect that a sequel would push the robot towards being "super." Less Gundamn Wing and more G Gundam.

[Aldurin]

But how many sequels does it take until we get to Zone of the Enders level of hype?

I do agree with Matt and Woolie of the Best Friends that this is a critical part of convincing the movie-making world that Mechs and Kaiju are something that we'll love when done even remotely well.

Also Pacific Rim is great and if you went to see Grown Ups 2 first then you are a terrible person.

[Magus]

Also Pacific Rim is great and if you went to see Grown Ups 2 first then you are a terrible person.

Grown Ups 1 was enough suffering on my part.

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Apparently America would rather watch Adam Sandler fuck around with the definition of the word "comedy", so I wouldn't expect a sequel to Pacific Rim.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/07/14/grown-ups-pacific-rim-box-office/2514973/

[synkr0nized]

mediocre dialogue and dubious plot, cliche romance and character development, GLaDOS not killing anyone

vs.

great effects and design, being honest about being a giant robot vs. monster lovefest, Charlie, GLaDOS voicing computers, and Ron Pearlman



I'd say it's a win, overall.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Apparently America would rather watch Adam Sandler fuck around with the definition of the word "comedy", so I wouldn't expect a sequel to Pacific Rim.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/07/14/grown-ups-pacific-rim-box-office/2514973/

This is why we can't have awesome things.

[Bells]

This is why we can't have awesome things.

Here, have a bag of salt all over that wound

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/grown_ups_2/

VS

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pacific_rim_2013/

[Magus]

America has no excuse. They all saw the first one and what it was like.

This is like when they reelected George W. Bush all over again.

[Bells]

All is not lost yet... the movie could pick up on week 2, as long as people talk about it now...

[Kyanbu The Legend]

But how many sequels does it take until we get to Zone of the Enders level of hype?

I do agree with Matt and Woolie of the Best Friends that this is a critical part of convincing the movie-making world that Mechs and Kaiju are something that we'll love when done even remotely well.

Also Pacific Rim is great and if you went to see Grown Ups 2 first then you are a terrible person.

That would be amazing on all levels!

My inner Z.O.E Fan is screaming like a school girl at a concert at the thought of something like that. Or hell another Z.O.E show/movie/game/ova. X3

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Don't blame me, I was there midnight on Thursday.

Chances all I'll be back there this weekend as well.

[Arcanum]

Worldwide, Pacific Rim brought in a whopping $91M (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pacificrim.htm)

Meanwhile Grown Ups 2 is sitting at $44M worldwide (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=grownups2.htm)

Feel free to thank your deity/mecha/kaiju of choice that non-American movie-goers have good taste.

[Lumenskir]

I thought it was a great Giant Monsters Rampage movie (from the design of the monsters, the obvious but not overplayed allegorical message, the no-kissing, etc.) but a pretty mediocre Giant Mecha movie.

Also, I am now positive that in a secluded attic somewhere a portrait of Charlie Hunnam is slowly getting better at using an American accent.

[Azisien]

The dumbest thing in the whole movie, aside from the movie's premise itself and the human response of building giant robots (which I will suspend because Power Rangers), was the damn sword. That thing is so effective, why didn't they open with it? In fact, why aren't all the Jaegars made of razor-edged blades?

[Bells]

they really used the "Super Sword Upgrade" trope?

that's even more awesome on my book... now all we need for the sequel is a Jaeger with a giant Drill hand.

[Marc v4.0]

Super Chain Sword

Thinking back on that, yeah, it was just a straight up Megazord "Get sword, fuck up monsters" deal

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

A lot of the plot doesn't make sense when you look more closely at it. Like, why would the worlds governments stop funding the only tried and tested response to giant monster invasions and instead start funding the untried and obviously inneffective giant wall project instead?

I know they claimed that they were losing mechas left and right due to the kaiju getting stronger, but units like Striker Eureka was the best killer they had and was clearly still a match for anything, and it was the first and only MK V jeager, so why didn't they just build more MK Vs? Hell even the MK III Gypsy Danger could take down class 4 Kaiju pretty easily, so clearly the problem wasn't with the tech, they just needed better pilots, or more of them.

The wall project was really pretty stupid to begin with. How did they ever expect that to be able to consistantly repel anything, when these creatures had already shown themselves capable of bringing down entire cities.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

A lot of the plot doesn't make sense when you look more closely at it. Like, why would the worlds governments stop funding the only tried and tested response to giant monster invasions and instead start funding the untried and obviously inneffective giant wall project instead?

Because Fuck the Poor.

The folks pulling the strings evidently decided the world was already doomed and wanted to buy time for their all-night coke orgies in Denver by walling the huddled masses up on the beach.

After the current state of the Republican party, I could buy it.

[Lumenskir]

The wall project was really pretty stupid to begin with. How did they ever expect that to be able to consistantly repel anything, when these creatures had already shown themselves capable of bringing down entire cities.
Because in the movie kaiju = climate change and the point that levees don't beat climate change on their own had to be hammered home.

But really, the entire logic of the mecha part is built on a non-existent foundation, even before you get to the wall. I mean, if you know conventional weapons work, why wouldn't you devote all of the world's money into a bunch of giga-cruisers parked right next to the rift you can easily monitor at all times with a bajillion rail guns pointed at the choke point? Or hell, just put like 20 nukes at the mouth of the tunnel and set up a proximity trigger, then replace that every few months.

Oh, right, because then we wouldn't have a movie.

[Azisien]

Yes of course, as I said (somewhat vaguely), you have to either consciously or unconsciously accept the fact that for Pacific Rim to exist, you must be dealing in an alternate history where humans have the resources we have today, but completely lack any semblance of strategic thought.

If you accept that, and you have to, both the Jaegar project and the Wall project begins to make sense. Hell, even holding back the sword makes a decent amount of sense. Err, anti-sense.

edit: shit, even the alien invaders have to lack sense if they invest these kinds of resources into an invasion (seriously, consider the scope of their biotech facility adjacent to the wormhole, it makes even a kaiju look like an ant), and all they do is open one forty-meter hole in one spot. I'd open eight thousand, all in different places, all with different kaiju. Standard wormhole warfare doctrine, man. Earth over.

[Bells]

When mobile suit gundam tells me that the entire reason why close combat with giant human piloted mechs is the new norm of war because of a new super particle discovered that nulifies the chance of long range, controlled, warfare... i'm ok with that.

I never expected Pacific Rim to give me anything more than a huge live action 2 hours long Anime.

From EVERYTHING i've seen so far, it delivers in that regard in spades. Including all the flaws you expect from that medium. This is a crafted piece of work it seems.

So, i'm Guilhermo Del Totally Okay With This...

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

edit: shit, even the alien invaders have to lack sense if they invest these kinds of resources into an invasion (seriously, consider the scope of their biotech facility adjacent to the wormhole, it makes even a kaiju look like an ant), and all they do is open one forty-meter hole in one spot. I'd open eight thousand, all in different places, all with different kaiju. Standard wormhole warfare doctrine, man. Earth over.

This is a race that apparantly tried to take over the earth during the cretaceous period, then sat around for 65 million years waiting for another chance. Just the fact that their civilisation has existed for that long probably indicates they are in no real rush to do anything.

Either that or time moves much faster on the other side of the rift and they're just sending stuff through at a pretty reasonable pace from their point of view, though they somehow still had radio contact after Gypsy went through with no time dilation so that seems unlikely.

As for only making one wormhole, well, maybe they can only make one? Maybe trying to open multiple causes dimensions to collapse or something. It's alien tech, who knows how it works?

[Azisien]

I guess we'll never really know until we get some hint at their Kardashev rating, but if they haven't reached Type II after 65 million years, they're terrible. And if they have reached Type II, they can probably open lots of wormholes. But I've entered a realm of speculation that might even make Del Toro facepalm.

[Magus]

SPOILERS

About the dinosaurs and aliens:

In the movie, it was stated that after they killed off the dinosaurs, the climate didn't agree with their biology. However, due to human-caused climate change, we had made it the perfect environment for them.

[Bells]

i would like to share the awesome

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i have shared the awesome

[Magus]

Well, suffice it to say, I have a completely different outlook on Grown Ups 2 after watching this Red Letter Media review:

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Clearly America should embrace this stunning film!

[Lumenskir]

Could Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde pilot a jager by drifting with themselfs/ves?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I think you'd still need 2 brains, not just multiple personailty disorder.