Legend of Korra Book 4: You aint bout Dat Toph

[Premmy]

So, Book four.
Awesome things:
Kuvira
Toph
Kuvira
New Designs!
Airbender Superheroes
Kuvira
Bad Things Happening to Prince Wu
Kuvira.

[Aldurin]

Seeing Korra fight Hallucination Korra brought to light how cool a Legend of Korra fighting game would be.

I'm also glad they've kept Verrick on board the show, since he just seems to work really well in his current role.

Also Kuvira.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I for one welcome out new Iron Overlord. That said, Korra's got her work cut out for her.

[Aerozord]

Toph is still Toph

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Toph is still Toph

And that's all we could ever want from her. :)

[POS Industries]

Toph is still Toph
Yeah, this has been some A+ Tophing.

Also Kuvira is basically girl!Gestahl. And I like it.

[rpgdemon]

Yeah, this has been some A+ Tophing.

Also Kuvira is basically girl!Gestahl. And I like it.

More like, Kuvira is basically girl!Unalok, and it is making me worried.

"I AM TRANSPARENTLY EVIL YET PEOPLE ARE STILL TRUSTING AND GOING ALONG WITH ME UNTIL THE MOMENT COMES WHERE MY SUDDEN BUT INEVITABLE BETRAYAL HAPPENS. 2X COMBO, SINCE BOLIN STILL TRUSTS ME. 3X COMBO IF YOU COUNT UNALOK IN THE COMBOING."

Aside from that, Toph was still Toph, which was really refreshing after both Old!Katara and Old!Zuko didn't quite feel like older versions of the characters we knew.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I don't think they'll make the same mistake twice. They might handle her better then they did Unalok.

[Aerozord]

Its Bolin, how long was he trusting with Verik?

[Premmy]

More like, Kuvira is basically girl!Unalok, and it is making me worried.

"I AM TRANSPARENTLY EVIL YET PEOPLE ARE STILL TRUSTING AND GOING ALONG WITH ME UNTIL THE MOMENT COMES WHERE MY SUDDEN BUT INEVITABLE BETRAYAL HAPPENS. 2X COMBO, SINCE BOLIN STILL TRUSTS ME. 3X COMBO IF YOU COUNT UNALOK IN THE COMBOING."

Aside from that, Toph was still Toph, which was really refreshing after both Old!Katara and Old!Zuko didn't quite feel like older versions of the characters we knew.
I think it's different in that I got the sense that they didn't /WANT/ us to view Unalok as evil until he tipped his hand, Whereas Kuvira is presented as a counterpoint to Prince Wu's incompetence. I.E. We're not supposed to "fall" for her(Not in the way I did, but whatever) but instead view her as the "Good at leading, but mean" to contrasts Wu's "Nice, but terrible at leading".

[POS Industries]

More like, Kuvira is basically girl!Unalok, and it is making me worried.
Unalaq wasn't forcibly uniting a continent under an empire based around advanced technology, employing walking, weaponized armor mechs and now apparently having her lead scientist researching ways of draining the spiritual energies of beings from another realm who haven't roamed the Earth in millennia to power her army.

Like for real, the writers clearly just played FF6 before coming up with this. She's Gestahl.

[rpgdemon]

I think it's different in that I got the sense that they didn't /WANT/ us to view Unalok as evil until he tipped his hand, Whereas Kuvira is presented as a counterpoint to Prince Wu's incompetence. I.E. We're not supposed to "fall" for her(Not in the way I did, but whatever) but instead view her as the "Good at leading, but mean" to contrasts Wu's "Nice, but terrible at leading".

That's the thing, I don't think she's "mean", she's, "Clearly blatantly evil". When they did the spirit draining thingy, that sort of cemented it.

[Aldurin]

Unalok
Unalaq
Verrick
Verik

New thread rule where we say fuck it and purposely mispell any name that already has a weird spelling to its pronunciation?

[Premmy]

That's the thing, I don't think she's "mean", she's, "Clearly blatantly evil". When they did the spirit draining thingy, that sort of cemented it.

Haven't seen that yet.

[Aerozord]

I do love Mako's counter-argument to Bolin

I'm not saying she isn't a better leader, just that that doesn't change the fact she's evil.

Speaking of, I think she's what you expect a realistic megalomaniac to be like. This is all for her own self interest, but I am sure in her mind its in everyones best interest to be ruled by her. Everyone is the hero of their own story kinda thing.

New thread rule where we say fuck it and purposely mispell any name that already has a weird spelling to its pronunciation?

I've always believed as long as everyone understands what you are saying being overly concerned about stuff like that is just being pedantic

[Aldurin]

Haven't seen that yet.

End of episode 3. It's mostly implied but obvious at this point.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Toph is back! And she's still the greatest earthbender in the world!!

All other plotlines are irrelevent.

[Aerozord]

That reminds me of something. Why the hell is Katara a healer? Yea its a useful thing to know but there was an entire story arc that her priority was using her bending to fight. Why wasn't she at the North Pole with Zuko last season fighting?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

That reminds me of something. Why the hell is Katara a healer? Yea its a useful thing to know but there was an entire story arc that her priority was using her bending to fight. Why wasn't she at the North Pole with Zuko last season fighting?

She was a combat medic. And by this point in the time line she's a world famous doctor. It's likely she was up to her knees in patients at the time. Nothing wrong with becoming a doctor over fighting. Katara wasn't all for violence to begin with. Fighting was always sort of a last resort kind of thing.

[POS Industries]

Also, when you're super old, being able to practice magic medicine is way more useful to society than shooting fireballs.

And if you're an old guy that only knows how to shoot fireballs and swing a couple swords around, then you're probably going to stay more on the ball about your ability to fight than the lady who spends all day healing people.

[Ryong]

I'm not actually reading anything in this thread, just here to say I saw all of season 2 in a couple of days.

I should be discussing season 4 with you all next week.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Ikki earns her keep, the swamp still loves dragging people into itself. And Korra is back in her prime once more thanks to tough love and Toph telling her to learn from her past enemies, not fear them. Sadly I think this is the last we'll see of Toph for a while.

[Ryong]

Nearly done with season 3.

Why'd they give driving duty to THE ARMLESS LADY!?

sure she has water tendrils she can control with surgical precision, but c'mon.

[Premmy]

She was the only one with a license, obviously.

[Ryong]

Zaheer can totally also drive.

And now I just saw the first episode of the new season.

It's been pretty crazy.

[Aerozord]

Ikki earns her keep, the swamp still loves dragging people into itself. And Korra is back in her prime once more thanks to tough love and Toph telling her to learn from her past enemies, not fear them. Sadly I think this is the last we'll see of Toph for a while.



I like imagining the swamp as being REALLY clingy

[Ryong]

So, now that I'm done I'd like to talk a bit about seasons 2 and 3.

Season 2 was pretty weird with that ending, but I liked it even if it continues the trend of LION TURTLE EX MACHINA. Also, clearly evil villain somehow manages to fool Korra perfectly. Also, I expected those two detectives to actually be working for Varrick but as it turns out they were just incompetent.

Season 3 was great, except for the you're an airbender now that means you're an air nomad and you better accept that part. Another odd thing is that Fire Nation didn't have a single new airbender, and, in fact, very very little is shown of the Fire Nation throughtout the whole series. And "Oh hi, my name's Kuvira." was basically OotS. Also, did they forget Mako can lightningbend until the very last fight?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I think it's more that he didn't feel a need to use it due to that technique being fatal for moments where he just wanted to score K.Os, and requiring time to charge up making it tricky to set up.

[Ryong]

It certainly seems like he can do it pretty fast, he's used a non-lethal lightning bolt against Amon and he's been using a lot of fire, so it's clearly not a "no I can't kill them" thing.

The only explanation other than they forgetting about him being able to do it is if he wants to keep it a secret.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I completely forgot he did that to Amon and he lived.

[Aldurin]

I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon.

The Fire Nation is probably sidelined because it was the big thing in AtLA and the rest of the world deserved more attention, but the neglect is really starting to show now (water-arm lady's prison in season 2 was probably the only scene to take place at the Fire Nation if I'm remembering properly.)

Also, it never really stood out to me before, but the elements are stupidly imbalanced for combat.

Air: Godlike in versatility and speed (no wonder Plot Nation wiped out the airbenders)
Fire: Pretty good, but weak on barrier penetration.
Water: Strong, but dependent on water supply.
Earth: Pretty weak aside from large projectiles and making cover.
Earth (with consideration of the variant earthbenders): Fear itself, taking the form of the weaker elements to a limited degree while using metalbending to basically be SpiderIronManThor.

[Ryong]

I don't think we've seen anyone Firebending or Earthbending anywhere on the level where it was shown in AtLA yet, besides using it for propulsion. Also, Lightningbending is probably the best thing for "barrier penetration".

Lavabending is pretty OP, though.

Vaatu is probably part of Raava currently.

[Aerozord]

All the elements are nerfed to be less fatal. We saw what airbending is like when someone is trying to kill another human being. Likewise earthbending attacks, a rock of that size going at that speed would break bones if not kill you. Fire bending is the only one not weakened but only because they ignore convection. Fighting a fire bender would quickly become like fighting inside an oven
I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon.


I dont see why, its not like Korra's personality was being overwritten by the first Avatar's. I think thats part of the idea. While some core things are always there, a desire for peace and stability, selflessness, each Avatar is their own unique person with different opinions and beliefs of what should be done

[Ryong]

I mean, look at AtLA, firebenders would shoot huge fireballs and waves of fire, earthbenders would blast the ground beneath their enemies while dodging and their covers would be more than a tiny wall that can get blown away by almost anything.

Bending, as a whole, seems to be a lot more about precision than large attacks now.

[rpgdemon]

Also, Earthbending would be freaking overpowered if more earthbenders would just do what the evil king did in AtLA and suck people underground. It solves 99% of the fights in seconds.

Also also, we know for a fact that being killed in the avatar cycle ends it, it was a major plot point in AtLA, said to us by the person who knew the most of spiritual stuff and the avatar cycle of anyone we've met thus far, who taught Aang what the avatar state was/how to use it.

[Aldurin]

Also, Earthbending would be freaking overpowered if more earthbenders would just do what the evil king did in AtLA and suck people underground. It solves 99% of the fights in seconds.

Also also, we know for a fact that being killed in the avatar cycle ends it, it was a major plot point in AtLA, said to us by the person who knew the most of spiritual stuff and the avatar cycle of anyone we've met thus far, who taught Aang what the avatar state was/how to use it.

That wasn't in the movie. I forgot about that, but I guess it's for the best since having the dark avatar cycle would be darkening the tone too much.

[Premmy]

I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon.

The Avatar cycle seems to exist because of Rava's pledge to Wan to reincarnate after each avatar's death in order to maintain peace. Vaatu making no such promise to anyone, and the potential that he will not manifest(if he hasn't been completely neutralized) in 1000 years, and then only by bursting forth from Rava most likely means there is no dark avatar cycle.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I just realized what Kuvira might be doing to Su.

Gotta love those Villain mind games. And Su is playing right into it.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New Episode

As expected, Su's assassination attempt was exactly what Kuvira wanted and ended up costing them Zaofu. Korra's still not quite past her PTSD understandably and a one on one fight with Kuvira for Zaofu was the worst possible time for it to flare up.

And Varrick is bat shit insane... and I love him for it.

[Ryong]

Now more than ever it seems like Korra has learnt how to bend the four elements, but doesn't know the techniques and motions for any of them.

[Aldurin]

Now more than ever it seems like Korra has learnt how to bend the four elements, but doesn't know the techniques and motions for any of them.

It definitely showed in the Kuvira duel. Korra treats every element as a simplistic ranged attack while regular benders like Kuvira learn to make the most of their ability, being able to attack from all directions or make subtle changes to the fight that throw off such an aggressive approach. Korra's water bending is slightly better, likely from growing up as part of the Water Tribe, but she seems to treat every other element as the same kind of ranged attack or mobility enhancer.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

The White Lotus might not have trained her properly. That or Korra's letting her fighting style get in the way of full mastery of the 4.

[Sithdarth]

I don't think I've ever hated a fictional character more than Kuvira right now. Also I don't think I've ever liked a character more than Varrick right now. This has been a strange day.

[Aerozord]

Now more than ever it seems like Korra has learnt how to bend the four elements, but doesn't know the techniques and motions for any of them.

She is by far the worst airbender I have ever seen, and last season I saw people that have been airbenders for mere weeks.

I was hoping she'd have learned something from getting beat up by Toph.

[Premmy]

"I've completely mastered Airbending, look! PUNCHPUNCHPUNCH! See? mastered."

But I feel like Toph is literally the worst person to teach you airbending.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

To be fair though, she hasn't had the chance to really work on her air bending all that much given everything that's happened.

[Aerozord]

Plot hole I noticed. So he was trying to use the spirit vines to create clean energy. The electrical grid is powered by benders. They already have clean energy

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Plot hole I noticed. So he was trying to use the spirit vines to create clean energy. The electrical grid is powered by benders. They already have clean energy

Likely he's trying to create a power source that doesn't rely on bending that'll net him a few millions.

[Premmy]

Plot hole I noticed. So he was trying to use the spirit vines to create clean energy. The electrical grid is powered by benders. They already have clean energy

Are we sure that the electrical grid is FULLY powered by benders? what about Satomobiles, Boats, planes, Tanks,mechs, and airships?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah those all seem to be Gas powered or Steam powered.

[Aldurin]

Also enslaving lightning benders to pump enough ki into the grid to power an entire nation poses more logistics issues than just harvesting spirit vines, so Kuvira is understandably on board the literal spirit lasers train.

[Premmy]

Yeah those all seem to be Gas powered or Steam powered.

I'm almost 90% sure boats are gas/coal powered because

1. Fire nation uses coal and gas power, and they invented the internal combustion engine, and the motorboat engine as evidenced by the Jet Skis(although that might have been the mechanist, same difference, basically)
2: Tarlokk and Amon's Suicide was by explosion to the boats gas tank

[Ryong]

I doubt even Republic City is powered solely by lightningbending.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New episode

Bolin and Varicks excellent adventures continues. With Varick showing us some more of that engineer genius by building a makeshift EMP to down a unit of Mecha Tanks. And Bolin continues to remind us why he's an awesome guy by saving prisoners on the run from Kuvira's forces. Korra x Prince Lu is probably all over the internet now even though Korra doesn't really care about this guy. And Kuvira and Toph are about to duke it out from the looks of it next episode. When she goes "Get off my lawn!" all over Kuvira's forces. Sadly it'll probably be a worf battle to show just how powerful Kuvira is.

[POS Industries]

Korra x Prince Lu is probably all over the internet now
I haven't even looked yet but I already know it's that blush when she was talking to Asami.

EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/9tCwwTe.png

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Man, Toph is going to be sooo pissed off when she finds out what Kuvira's up to.

[Sithdarth]

I just realized yesterday why Bolin's lavabending makes total sense based on his parents. I'm not sure why it took me that long.

[Kim]

kinda bums me out that as korrasami stuff is probs just queerbaiting that wont actually go anywhere

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I haven't seen the last two episodes, but this clip is fucking incredible. http://suetsugi.tumblr.com/post/103203525710/

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Today's episode was a flash back clip episode. Long story short from the creators. Nick screwed them over with the budget by a full episode and still expected them to deliver the full season. Resulting in them having to resort to making a clip episode to fit within the small budget. Though they did try their best to make it a pleasant as possible.

http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/11/we-were-duped-how-nick-messed-with-its-best-show-the-legend-of-korra/

[Aldurin]

I haven't seen the last two episodes, but this clip is fucking incredible. http://suetsugi.tumblr.com/post/103203525710/

What really gets me is the "heard them everywhere" voice actors for them.

[Ryong]

KORRA ABRIDGED

[Aerozord]

Yea it seemed like an abridged episode, especially when they did the conference call. For a clip show it was pretty good.

Though on the Asami/Korra thing. Honestly I don't think its fanbaiting. I think its more like the writers going "look this is as close as Nickelodeon is ever going to let us get so try and make do."

[Ryong]

Asami/Mako didn't work, Korra/Mako didn't work, Bolin/Korra died in season 1 and Bolin/Asami is a best friends deal. Clearly, this leaves Korra/Asami.

[Aldurin]

Clearly, this leaves Korra/Asami.

What about Korra/Kuvira?



What? It could happen.

[Nique]

Though on the Asami/Korra thing. Honestly I don't think its fanbaiting. I think its more like the writers going "look this is as close as Nickelodeon is ever going to let us get so try and make do."

I feel like we're very very close to a time when creators will have full control over even 'all-ages' content through independent publishing and so forth. Adventure Time also got achingly close to this, but clearly had to draw a line.

You can see some stuff, in like, the reasonably popular Bravest Warriors on youtube, that isn't so unnecessarily censored.

[Aerozord]

It will be nice if for once not immediately going to full scale war doesn't blow up in people's faces. Its an all too common trope in American fiction of the audience going "see this is what you get for not using a military solution right away."

[Kyanbu The Legend]

With only 4 episodes left, that seems to be the case . It looks like defense is going to be the right choice.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Haven't been keeping up like I should but considering the spirit energy weaponizing I'm sure letting kuvira have time to get things done will bite them.

It would be nice if she had a moment of anger about not being able to paint any future aggressive action as responding.

[Aerozord]

It just occurred to me, since the creators said they are done after this. There is a real possibility we will never find out what happened to Sokka

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It just occurred to me, since the creators said they are done after this. There is a real possibility we will never find out what happened to Sokka

I'm sure the comic will shed some light on that eventually.

[Premmy]

It just occurred to me, since the creators said they are done after this. There is a real possibility we will never find out what happened to Sokka

Boomerang finally came back after all those years. And it wanted revenge.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I'd like to think that he just passed away of old age. There's no battle or foe he could face that would be suitably epic enough for him anyway.

[POS Industries]

The guy's diet primarily consisted of meat. I'd say natural causes are a given.

[Aerozord]

We know he was alive like 10 years ago atleast. I like to imagine him being whisked away upon his death to Princess Yue by freakin Valkyries

[Tev]

My wife thinks he may have settled down with he Kioshi warriors. We haven't seen any of them yet and I'm sorta surprised that they haven't come up yet in all of the Earth Kingdom dominating that Kuvira has been up to.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Which begs the question of rather or not they're still around by this point in the time line. Unless we're going to see the new generation of Kioshi warriors in the 4 part finale.

EDIT: Actually I just realized something. Kioshi Island technically might not be a part of the earth kingdom but is instead a sovereignty. Meaning Kuvira can't touch them...yet.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New Episode.

Operation: Beifung!

As everyone expected, Zhu li was a double agent and has been doing everything she could to slow down development on the Spirit Vine Cannon. Getting caught by Kuvira in the process. We finally find out about Lin and maybe Su's father along with some nice touching character development between Lin and Toph. Speaking of, seems like Katara, Toph won't be seeing much action due to her age (she admits this towards the end of the episode). Baatar Jr. may finally be realizing just how corrupt Kuvira really is when she tried to snipe Opal and Bulin with the Spirit Vine Cannon a few miles away while they were trying to rescue Zhu li. Despite him pleading for her not to kill Opal. It fails thanks to the rest of the Beifung family (minus Baatar and Baatar Jr) fighting back in a vain attempt to down the Cannon and Kuvira. However they were forced into an early retreat, unable destroy the Cannon.

Mean while... back at Republic City.

Prince Wu is...improving? it's hard to tell sometimes. Varrick and Asami are designing a flying Mech. And Korra was unable to convince the spirits to help protect Republic City. Which is about to be invaded in 2 weeks with a fully functional Spirit Vine Cannon.

Shit is about to hit the fan. And the seeds for what might be Baatar Jr. switching sides have been planted.

[Ryong]

You say that and yet don't mention Toph and Sui showing how master earth-and-metalbenders do their thing?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Didn't want to spoil all of it.

[Ryong]

Who's going to read spoilers BEFORE watching the episode? People who want to be spoiled, that's who.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

You know what, you make a good point Ryong.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New episode:

Oh shit Kuvira has a giant fucking robot! And it's name is Dues Ex MACHINA!


Also Prince Woo is pretty close to being rescued from the scrap heap.

[Aldurin]

This episode also made it clear that we need Kojima to make a Legend of Korra stealth game. Bender stealth ops for game of the year.

[Ryong]

I feel the villain progression is now complete: Zaheer only attained the last of his power after the death of P'li, Kuvira attained the last of her power and then tried to dispose of Baatar Jr..

[Aldurin]

Let's not forget that a giant mecha controlled with metalbending possibly rivals all other mecha control schemes in fiction.

Kuvira is drift compatible with herself.

[POS Industries]

Let's not forget that a giant mecha controlled with metalbending possibly rivals all other mecha control schemes in fiction.
It was pretty reminiscent of G Gundam, if you ask me.

[rpgdemon]

Hey, Korra. Remember in season 2, how you turned into a giant blue thing to fight that giant humanoid that was shooting red spirit-based lasers at republic city?

Just saying.

[Ryong]

That may require her to meditate in the tree of time, though!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Hey, Korra. Remember in season 2, how you turned into a giant blue thing to fight that giant humanoid that was shooting red spirit-based lasers at republic city?

Just saying.

My guess that's only really doable through harmonic convergence.

[rpgdemon]

Actually, that is incorrect! I went back and re-watched the trainwreck of a season 2 finale, and she doesn't even need to be the avatar in order to do it, because Ra'ava was dead and gone and de-linked at that point! It was implied that any Joe Schmoe could do it, and the tree wasn't even necessary.

Plus, even if she did need the tree of time, she was right there two episodes ago! Looking for a spirit-based way to fight Kuvira's spirit-based powers, no less!

[Arcanum]

If you're going to grasp at straws to back a silly argument, I might as well do the same to refute you.

1) It was harmonic convergence, so there was an abundance of spiritual energy about.

2) Vaatu was just released from the tree, so there was an abundance of spiritual energy still at the tree

3) The portals were just recently opened, so that might have had a significant effect.

4) Raava was linked with Korra for her entire life, odds are the spiritual affinity that develops from that kind of connection wouldn't just cease to exist after Raava was severed from Korra.

So yeah, maybe someone like Jinora or post-enlightenment Zaheer could have done what Korra did, since they both have such a strong affinity for the spirit world. However there were a lot of factors leading up to spirit-Kaiju-Korra, so I highly doubt it's something that can be pulled off again.

And besides, becoming a large, slow-moving spirit target is probably a terrible idea when your opponent has a massive spirit super laser.

[rpgdemon]

There are no straws to grasp at: Tenzin was incredibly explicit that this was ENTIRELY Korra, with no influence from Ra'ava. i literally just watched the episode. Go rewatch it, and then get back to me.

Plus, the massive spirit weapon IS a large slow moving target. It is essentially identical to giant red dude.

[Arcanum]

There are no straws to grasp at: Tenzin was incredibly explicit that this was ENTIRELY Korra, with no influence from Ra'ava. i literally just watched the episode. Go rewatch it, and then get back to me.

I didn't say anything about it having to do with Raava. All I said about Raava was that Korra having a lifelong link with one of the strongest spirits we know of is bound to have an effect on Korra's affinity towards the spirit realm, and that affinity wouldn't just up and vanish because Raava did. This is actually backed up by that very same episode, because Korra has always been notoriously bad at connecting with her spiritual side, and yet after Raava is gone she still managed to create her giant spiritual projection.

And Tenzin's wording in that episode (yes I went and watched it) does not imply anyone could have done what Korra did. It actually implies Korra is one of very few people who could have done that, maybe even the only one. Yeah anyone can sit under the tree and meditate, but not everyone could bend their own energy to create such a powerful projection.

Plus there's still the fact that harmonic convergence was still ongoing, which potentially played a huge role. In fact, it's implied harmonic convergence did play a role since the tree of time was projecting Korra's memories, and what was happening in Republic city during harmonic convergence, but it wasn't doing that on subsequent visits.

Plus, the massive spirit weapon IS a large slow moving target. It is essentially identical to giant red dude.

I forgot about the spirit chest lasers, but my point was basically why would you want to be something equally slow that can get easily blasted, or (now that I remember about the chest lasers) risk having the spirit beam overpower your own spirit beam, while potentially having a lot of collateral damage and putting innocent lives in danger (the people working inside the machine just following Kuvira's orders)? There's no point to risk all that when you can simply move fast, avoid the beam and draw its fire away from the city, and infiltrate the machine and take it down from the inside.

Especially since next episode is going to start with Batar Jr. realizing Kuvira's evil and telling Korra and friends the mecha's weak point.

[Aerozord]

I was watching that boarder guard outpost and just thinking. There is absolutely no way to handwave them surviving that.

[Aldurin]

I was watching that boarder guard outpost and just thinking. There is absolutely no way to handwave them surviving that.

Yeah, they're starting to crank up how much they push toward outright murder being shown.

[Kim]

OMFG SPOILERS BUT OMFG http://digirigd.tumblr.com/post/105586436888/karzlr-they-did-it-they-really-did-it

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yes kim you called it. Korra x Asami is canon.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Overall pretty satisfied with the finale. For lack of a better term it felt very much like a finale.

There were certainly low points. Meelo. But, dang, after all that Nick has thrown their way to try and make it not happen they were able to pull something that I really enjoyed out of it.
Fuck, I am going to miss Avatar.

[Ryong]

That was pretty amazing.

[POS Industries]

Lotta straight people buttblasted right now.

Good.

[Premmy]

Badgermoles are back, yo.

[Ryong]

I feel like they wanted to flesh out Korra and Asami's relationship more, but couldn't.

And I was totally expecting Mako to die in the engine room.

And I'm now expecting there'll eventually be comics to follow up the story.

[Nique]

I feel like they wanted to flesh out Korra and Asami's relationship more, but couldn't.

And I was totally expecting Mako to die in the engine room.

And I'm now expecting there'll eventually be comics to follow up the story.

I can't help but feel like the show getting railroaded resulted in a much poorer quality of show than we would have otherwise received.

That said, I loved that Korra and Asami make so much sense as a couple and were able to resolve things and relate to each other in ways that would have and did turn into huge blow-ups with her and Mako.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Anyone else sad we didn't get to see Katara/Zuko/Toph meet up again together in any combination? Hell we didn't even get to see Katara fight one more time (yeah, yeah I know Toph explained that about them keeping on the sidelines due to age but that didn't stop her and Zuko getting involved a couple of times, and you know you wanted to see Toph have a few shots at Kuvira or the mech directly).

Apart from that though, I am satisfied with everything else.

[Ryong]

I'm just kind of annoyed at never having seen Sokka again at all, nor anything involving the Kyoshi Island since that seemed like it'd be important when it comes to "reuniting the Earth Empire".

[Kim]

A very important post from the creators about the ending (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace)

[POS Industries]

I'm just kind of annoyed at never having seen Sokka again at all, nor anything involving the Kyoshi Island since that seemed like it'd be important when it comes to "reuniting the Earth Empire".
I wanted to see old lady Azula.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

A very important post from the creators about the ending (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace)

Ah, I had feeling they were building this up since Book 3.

[Aerozord]

A very important post from the creators about the ending (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace)

What I like best about that is it clarifies something else, they are both bi. It irks me to no end the notion of "she realized she was a lesbian". They both clearly had an attraction to males, they didn't change their minds they didn't realize they were homosexual all along, they are simply two bisexual women.

[POS Industries]

What I like best about that is it clarifies something else, they are both bi. It irks me to no end the notion of "she realized she was a lesbian". They both clearly had an attraction to males, they didn't change their minds they didn't realize they were homosexual all along, they are simply two bisexual women.
I'm thrilled to have bisexual representation that isn't exclusively violent sociopaths and/or people who are supposed to be seen by the audience as "sexual deviants."

Also I swear to god I am going to be super annoyed if people start claiming that Korra and Asami are pansexual rather than bi.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Also I swear to god I am going to be super annoyed if people start claiming that Korra and Asami are pansexual rather than bi.

So you're gonna be annoyed at Tumblr?

[POS Industries]

So you're gonna be annoyed at Tumblr?
I'm always annoyed at Tumblr.

I take it that's been happening, then? Because god forbid that every bisexual isn't a villain.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I take it that's been happening, then?

You're on the internet. Of course it's been happening.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I'm always annoyed at Tumblr.

I take it that's been happening, then? Because god forbid that every bisexual isn't a villain.

Dunno about particularly pansexual arguments but even in a post Word Of God confirmed world people are saying it wasn't really meant to be what it is, and that the creators are just taking advantage of the positive image retroactively.

[POS Industries]

Dunno about particularly pansexual arguments but even in a post Word Of God confirmed world people are saying it wasn't really meant to be what it is, and that the creators are just taking advantage of the positive image retroactively.
Yeah but that's mostly just /co/.

They don't count.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

^ This is what true oppression looks like.

[POS Industries]

^ This is what true oppression looks like.
http://i.imgur.com/QCrDnNy.gif

[Solid Snake]

At one point or another I'm going to binge-watch Airbender and then Korra and finally understand all these references that I do not understand.

[Aerozord]

At one point or another I'm going to binge-watch Airbender and then Korra and finally understand all these references that I do not understand.

Avatar is its own reward