Dragon Ball SUPER! no seriously DBZ is getting a sequel anime

[Kyanbu The Legend]

http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/28/8508011/new-dragon-ball-series-super-akira-toriyama


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Eighteen years after the end of Dragon Ball GT, a new Dragon Ball series is set to debut this summer. Titled Dragon Ball Chou (meaning Super), series creator Akira Toriyama will return to run the show.

The news is a bombshell for fans of the series, both in Japan and in the States. Dragon Ball Z, the sequel to the original Dragon Ball, is one of the most recognizable animes in the world, spawning movies, video games, and merchandise to the point of ubiquity. Recent movies like Battle of Gods and Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F' , which hits theaters earlier this month, have only stoked the series' popularity.



Update 1:30pm ET: In an official statement released by Toei Animation, the Japanese voice actress for Goku, Masako Nozawa, expressed excitement for the new project. "I've used the word 'cho' (super) in so many commercials, games, and other media, it is fantastic that the long-awaited Dragon Ball Super will finally begin," she said. "I hope that this series will last a long time and have the same impact around the world as its predecessor."



After all of the fake rumors. It's actually happening. A new entry in the DBverse airing in July.

I wonder if it's just going to end up being a reattempt at GT with a different plot and characters?

[tacticslion]

Wat.

O.O

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Wat.

O.O

Pretty much my exact response. more then likely this is probably because of how well the movies did (in Japan).

I'm even more shocked that it's Akira that's going to be handling it.

[Aerozord]

I was like "cool" until I saw its set to take place after GT. If it was set to take place after DBZ and retcon GT from existence I'd be alot more excited

[Arcanum]

It's set to take place after Z, specifically the Majin Saga. In other words, it happens at a similar time as the Battle of the Gods and Return of F movies. There's actually potential for it to render GT non-canon, since it takes place before the 28th Martial Arts tournament, which is when Uub shows up after the 10 year timeskip at the very end of DBZ.

edit- never mind, it seems there's no official word on when it takes place yet. I just misread the article I was reading about it. I sincerely hope it renders GT non-canon though.

Here is the article I was reading, (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/04/28/new-dragon-ball-super-tv-series-announced-for-2015/) which has this full translated statement:

Toei Animation Begins Production on Dragon Ball Super
Drawn From a Plot By The Brand’s Original Creator, Dragon Ball Super Is The First New Series In
Eighteen Years

TOKYO (April 28, 2015) – Toei Animation has announced production on Dragon Ball Super (Japanese title; tentative for English release), the first all-new Dragon Ball television series to be released in 18 years. Following the recent events of the hit feature film, Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’, Dragon Ball Super will debut in Japan in July 2015.

Reuniting the franchise’s iconic characters, Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu, as he attempts to maintain earth’s fragile peace. Overseen by Dragon Ball’s original creator, Akira Toriyama and produced with Fuji Television, Dragon Ball Super will draw on its historic past to create a bold, new universe welcoming to fans and endearing to new viewers.

Introduced as a manga in Weekly Shonen Jump (published from SHUEISHA Inc.) in 1984, Dragon Ball has evolved into a globally beloved brand. Seen in more than 70 countries, with over 230 million copies of its comic books sold, Dragon Ball remains one of the most popular anime series of all time.

“Having loved Dragon Ball since childhood, it is very exciting to be a part of this project,” said Osamu Nozaki, producer for Fuji Television. “Mr. Toriyama has developed a plot that’s not only a dream come true for Dragon Ball‘s millions of fans, but one that will foster in a new generation of viewers.”

“When I joined Toei Animation, one of my first assignments saw me working on the production of Dragon Ball Z,” said Atsushi Kido, producer for Toei Animation. “While there for only a short period of time, being a part of the series left a lasting impression. We look forward to carrying on Dragon Ball‘s tremendous legacy, bringing audiences a brand new Dragon Ball with the same sense of heart and commitment that went into past Dragon Ball productions.”

“I’ve used the word ‘cho’ (super) in so many commercials, games and other media, it is fantastic that the long awaited Dragon Ball Super will finally begin,” said Masako Nozawa, Japanese voice actress of Dragon Ball’s Son Goku, Son Gohan and Son Goten. “I hope that this series will last a long time and have the same impact around the world as its predecessor.”

edit2- Oh wait I'm dumb.

Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu, as he attempts to maintain earth’s fragile peace.

I knew I wasn't pulling that Majin Buu information out of nowhere.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I'll probably watch it out of curiosity since I've been rewatching DBZ in the form of a clipshow but I don't really expect much out of it in terms of quality.

[Aerozord]

I dont know, I was reading Jaco: Galactic Patrolman and Toriyama on a bad day is still pretty good

[Bard The 5th LW]

I dont know, I was reading Jaco: Galactic Patrolman and Toriyama on a bad day is still pretty good

When you get down to the details of it, DBZ is an anime about people screaming at eachother until one somehow outdoes the other by some arbitrary measure of power where the villains were capable of destroying planets about 3 story arcs ago.

[Menarker]

Toriyama didn't want to have series run as long as it did initially. But he was pressured to keep extending the cash cow's life for as long as possible until it became the undead horse we know and 'love'.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Which is why they made DBZ Kai or whatever and cut out all the retarded filler for a much more streamlined story.

GT kinda flopped since Toriyama's involvement was so minimal compared to previous projects and it showed. That being said even though I greatly prefer reading a manga over watching anime any day I'll still give DBSuper a shot.

[BitVyper]

Toriyama didn't want to have series run as long as it did initially.

This has actually been pretty thoroughly debunked. Toriyama had no planned endpoint for the series and wasn't pressured into making more (although, hilariously, part of the reason the Cell saga has so many villains is because former and then-current editors kept making fun of the villains he'd made). Jump is a serialized setup where you basically just go as long as you can. It's a living, and you don't try to sabotage yourself when you've got steady work.

There's a site around somewhere that goes through various interviews and laborously disproves the various fan-myths about Toriyama having been forced to make more.

Edit: I mean I guess you're TECHNICALLY right on the first point in that Toriyama didn't plan to have it run for any specific length at all. But the only thing pressuring him to make more was, presumably, being able to afford food.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

This has actually been pretty thoroughly debunked. Toriyama had no planned endpoint for the series and wasn't pressured into making more (although, hilariously, part of the reason the Cell saga has so many villains is because former and then-current editors kept making fun of the villains he'd made). Jump is a serialized setup where you basically just go as long as you can. It's a living, and you don't try to sabotage yourself when you've got steady work.

There's a site around somewhere that goes through various interviews and laborously disproves the various fan-myths about Toriyama having been forced to make more.

Edit: I mean I guess you're TECHNICALLY right on the first point in that Toriyama didn't plan to have it run for any specific length at all. But the only thing pressuring him to make more was, presumably, being able to afford food.
Hmm I'll have to check that out later.

[synkr0nized]

I love that this is going to shake its head and probably ignore all of GT.
I love that we are getting more of TeamFourStar fodder yelling and ridiculous fights and [probably?] "an enemy even stronger than Buu or Freeza".


I'll still fruitlessly wait for Cell to be relevant again. Even if it's just leaving him as ruler in Hell or something.

[Bard The 5th LW]

[COLOR="Red"][FONT="Tahoma"]I love that this is going to shake its head and probably ignore all of GT.
I love that we are getting more of TeamFourStar fodder yelling and ridiculous fights and [probably?] "an enemy even stronger than Buu or Freeza".

That line made me laugh because Dragon Ball Z is constantly trivializing itself. When told that two villains in one of the movies had "Become as strong as Frieza", Goku thinks that they'd make good practice for the kids. Like, the show can't even take villains who were ready to blow up an entire planet seriously anymore - apparently 10 year olds are on par with the former big bads.

[Arcanum]

I'll still fruitlessly wait for Cell to be relevant again. Even if it's just leaving him as ruler in Hell or something.

Revived Golden Freiza from the new movie will get turned into a cyborg and then absorbed by Cell, who will then reach his Ascended Perfect Form. Then Goku and Vegeta will go Super Saiyan God and still not be able to beat him, and have to fuse to become Super Saiyan God Gogeta. Something will happen causing Cell to unleash his True 100% Ascended Perfect Form, forcing SSG Gogeta to go Super Saiyan while in Super Saiyan God form, thus becoming Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Gogeta.

Okay I wrote that out as a joke but now I kind of want to watch it...

[synkr0nized]

That line made me laugh because Dragon Ball Z is constantly trivializing itself. When told that two villains in one of the movies had "Become as strong as Frieza", Goku thinks that they'd make good practice for the kids. Like, the show can't even take villains who were ready to blow up an entire planet seriously anymore - apparently 10 year olds are on par with the former big bads.

That movie sucked. :P
BUT that point still stands.
Which is why I look forward to them talking about the next big bad as if they might need Beerus to come save them.

[Aerozord]

We can go back and forth arguing about DBZ's finer points or weaknesses but ultimately it doesn't matter. GT was garbage, but I still watched it. Dragonball is older than I am but still relevant. Toriyama still has the clout to get a series into shonen jump on a whim, and shonen jump still uses DBZ as a major marketing license.

Good or bad, this is gonna be what we talk about for its entire run. Lets be realistic here

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Aero: Your little speel about Cyborg Super Fireza made me remember a plot point in Xenoverse where one of the time patrollers was lamenting in his field somehow it was a war between the red ribbon androids, King Piccolo fused with kami and the Majin's.

I would so watch that

[BitVyper]

Hmm I'll have to check that out later.

tldr of the whole multipart essay is that he's never once said any of that, and has repeatedly discussed the series as if he had every intention of continuing at all the various points where fans say he wanted to end it.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It's amazing how power levels are now going to be in the quintillions. >_>;

[Marc v4.0]

That was a joke. Powerlevels only ever existed to show how they were a bad method for rating combat prowess

[Kyanbu The Legend]

And hopefully it stays just that. Would be nice for everyone not named Goku, Vegeta, or Bills to not be useless.

I really liked how Resurrection of F had almost everyone have their moment to shine. Even Roshi got to down a few mooks.

[Tev]

Last I checked, it generally didn't matter what your power level was; Krilin's Destructo Disc cut you up just the same. It was a pretty decent equalizer through most of DBZ for him.

[Aerozord]

Last I checked, it generally didn't matter what your power level was; Krilin's Destructo Disc cut you up just the same. It was a pretty decent equalizer through most of DBZ for him.

which is also why he couldn't hit anyone with it.

[Tev]

That was a problem, yes.

[Menarker]

To be fair, It didn't work well for Frieza either when he started using them either and said villain was using an improved version that he could effectively remote control and boomerang and he was nearly equal in power to Goku at the time. Granted, his own arrogance and carelessness made them backfire on him.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

To be fair, It didn't work well for Frieza either when he started using them either and said villain was using an improved version that he could effectively remote control and boomerang and he was nearly equal in power to Goku at the time. Granted, his own arrogance and carelessness made them backfire on him.

Double bacon stuffed crust pizza. You eat it in reverse

[Kyanbu The Legend]

And what a Pizza it was, it shaves pounds off of your weight too.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Last I checked, it generally didn't matter what your power level was; Krilin's Destructo Disc cut you up just the same. It was a pretty decent equalizer through most of DBZ for him.

I am like, 90% certain that Krillin once hit Cell with the destructo disc and it did nothing because Cell's power level was just THAT HIGH

edit: Here it is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LkB8m2GKmg)

edit 2: Also in one of the movies I think a dude just catches it at one point.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Was thinking the same thing too but supposedly that scene isn't canon to the manga.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Well its canon to the anime and that's what we're talking about.

[Aerozord]

Frieza was using a different attack, it was controllable but not as powerful, plus Krillian did come up with a way to throw a cluster of them.

Anyways I'm saying because narratively he cant hit anything. Because then it would be over in an instant. You need long protracted battles and energy beam clashes. Goku has to save the day cause its a shonen battle manga and he is the protagonist

[Overcast]

I just want to continue to wonder if the presence of Mr. Popo is racist, or just a mythological reference I don't get. It's Japan so it could be either. Also amused that Bulma never felt comfortable around him, that whole learning to fly a Namekian ship thing was just rolling across the table with possible racism.

[Aerozord]

I suspect its abit of both. The design is probably taking some inspiration from perceptions of someone thats black, but it wasn't them going "this is a black guy".

Kind of like how Japan often uses christian terms and imagery but really has absolutely nothing to do with christianity. Its just easy short hand for Japanese to go "foreign and exotic"

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

I just want to continue to wonder if the presence of Mr. Popo is racist, or just a mythological reference I don't get. It's Japan so it could be either. Also amused that Bulma never felt comfortable around him, that whole learning to fly a Namekian ship thing was just rolling across the table with possible racism.

Well he is a genie, so there's that. His appearance could very well just be an approximation of the human form without understanding the connotations therein. Kinda like trying to get a person blind from birth to draw a tree using only visual descriptions. Some details just don't translate.

Or toriyama simply decided to make him look like that on whimsy.

[Aerozord]

Or toriyama simply decided to make him look like that on whimsy.

He did have alot of random animal headed people walking around

[synkr0nized]

all these squares make a circle

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

all these squares make a circle

KAMI! I NEED YOU TO TELL ME THAT I CAN LEAVE THE LOOKOUT!

[Aerozord]

After finally watching Battle of the Gods, I couldn't help but feel like the point of this movie was to establish what is, and is not, canon now. In preparation for the new series.

[synkr0nized]

So the first episode has left me feeling excited for what the show will offer. It almost went straight into what is/isn't cannon by a brief narration of the end of what was known as DBZ and letting the viewer know what many of the characters were up to currently.

It looks like only a few of the movies are really cannon, anyway, and we will definitely not be following the GT path. Which is fine with me.