"Steven Universe" or "We Can Talk About Adventure Time Too, I Guess"

[Seil]

Thought about whether or not Cybersix (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z22seoMxgpI) was intersex (https://31.media.tumblr.com/35c2512f5572e9c9bdca7b1d575c1015/tumblr_inline_ncu0mqMtNP1smhx8q.jpg) or gender fluid (http://blackcatula.tumblr.com/post/27979930646/okay-guys-ive-decided-that-cybersix-is-literally) and then I discovered Steven Universe:

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So what is this? (http://www.megacynics.com/2016/01/06) Is this Adventure Time? Is this show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqFdIELPruE) cool? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz0XwFd1pz4) Should I get into it? Come to think of it, I haven't watched Adventure Time in a whi-Marceline's mom?!

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[Gregness]

I've only seen a few episodes of Steven Universe, but it seems pretty boss. What I've heard of the soundtrack is pretty awesome, and there's a lot of attention to subtle details. Like, in this clip:

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My favorite part is how right at the end you can just see on his face how uncomfortable he is with his friend mentally preparing herself to die.

[Krylo]

Yes, you should watch Steven Universe. As should everyone.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Its a pretty fantastic show. It has some clumsy episodes early on (I hated Frybo) but after a certain point it grows into a consistently solid show with a neat world. It handles mature ideas/themes while still remaining a kid's show and has a plot/characters that are also deep enough to keep the viewer's interest. Not to mention it has a great soundtrack.

[Aerozord]

Both are good shows but I don't think they are the same type of show. Steven Universe is more of a character piece about how these deeply fleshed out characters interact and change with plot existing mostly to contextualize these things.

Adventure Time is about the world and how people live within it. Its why you get alot more stories about Ice King, Marceline, Bubblegum, ect than episodes exploring the history of our two leads. They exist as an escapist avatar for the audience to interact with the world.

Now that I think about it, its very much like a Table Top RPG. One is focused on the player characters and role playing, the other is more about quests and adventuring. Complete with the looseness of narrative to allow for more interesting stories.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Both are good shows but I don't think they are the same type of show. Steven Universe is more of a character piece about how these deeply fleshed out characters interact and change with plot existing mostly to contextualize these things.

I'd agree with this assessment. Steven Universe does have an overarching plotline, but its equal parts slice of life. Keep in mind its just as - if not moreso - about the characters and their development as it is about a central conflict. (And not ALL these characters are directly involved in that conflict)

[Arhra]

I'd say it did take a little while to find its feet but it's a very charming show.

Do you like singing and crying? Watch it then

[RickZarber]

Do you like singing and crying? Watch it then

I notice you don't specify if he'd be watching those things or doing them, but I guess the answer is yes to both anyway, so...

On the adjacent topic of Adventure Time, I've found that after season six went off the rails a bit with weird existentialism near the end, season seven has been very solid. Probably some of the best episodes since season four (which was probably my vote for strongest overall).

[Seil]

What the crap is up with Netflix and why doesn't it offer most things? I was promised a nigh-omnipotent video streaming service, and all I got was Netflix.

I've also been seeing subway ads for Rick and Morty. Is it anything like Bojack Horseface?

[Overcast]

Bojack is probably closer related to the Venture Brothers since they are both shows about the lasting effects of failure.

Rick and Morty is a comedic adventure a day sci fi thing that in the long run explores the idea of morality and our place in the universe.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I can't speak for Bojack Horseman, but Rick and Morty is excellent. In terms of how it makes me feel, I would describe its style as "Nihilistic Futurama". Also it has incredible pacing; episodes are a breeze. Strongly recommend it.

[Seil]

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When did animated shows get so philosophical?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Since the 90s... well kind of. It's been on and off a lot.

[shiney]

Oh boy wait until Nikose gets here and braindumps all the Steven.

[Nikose Tyris]

Oh boy wait until Nikose gets here and braindumps all the Steven.

Man, don't tempt me. SU struck such a chord with me right from it's early steps, and I'm completely in love with this show. Everything about it has been a wild ride, and the steady improvements on the show from the entire team fill me with glee. Even the art direction has improved so much.

The storylines are all really well thought out and each character has so much life to them. Even the silly things from early episodes were planned into the show for later. The only episode I disliked was the Uncle Grandpa crossover episode, and that's because it felt like a poorly written joke episode featuring the 1 dimensional impressions everyone got from the characters early on- Garnet is Stoic, Pearl is Neurotic, Amethyst is lazy.

I'm really loving Pearl's character development the most, but Peridot is my fast becoming my favourite character arc. Now that we know thatLapis Lazuli is coming back thanks to CN's latest leaked trailers, which implies Malachite and Jasper as well but hopefully Jasper becomes the earthbound villain or gets Bubbled and Lapis can start her healing term, there's going to be so much happening. I'm so psyched.

I just hope that CN's constant fucking bumbling with the schedule gets addressed. They don't even know when episodes are coming anymore it feels like, cause they dropped trailers for later episodes last week and we got some pretty major spoilers implied.

EDIT: Rick & Morty is simultaneously fun and also Hot Garbage. I wouldn't recommend the show to anyone but at the same time I don't think anyone is going to majorly dislike it. It's the cartoon version of a bad B movie.

[Aerozord]

Rick & Morty is a highbrow show in lowbrow clothes.

But more on topic. I watched the Steven Universe episode that goes over how Ruby and Sapphire met because I didn't realize I missed it. It is to my knowledge the only episode happening during the war, but one thing nagged at me. Where were the others? We only see Rose and Pearl but not only would it be absurd to think two people could even be called a rebellion but other episodes make mention of others. I don't know if they ever would but personally I'd like to see or atleast acknowledge that there were others.

[Seil]

I don't know, it looks pretty depressing.

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[Bard The 5th LW]

Instead of just watching individual clips of the shows isolated from broader context/story, you should just watch the shows. That'll go a lot farther towards giving you an understanding of what they're like/if you enjoy them.

If I had to recommend 5 early Steven Universe episodes, I think I'd go with Laser Light Cannon, Bubble Buddies, Steven's Lion, Cheeseburger Backpack, and Giant Woman. I feel like they give a good sense of the show's range and hold up pretty well for early episodes (some other early ones are a bit clumsy and might give a different impression of the characters). If you like those, then you can just dive into the rest. By the midpoint of Season 1, the show basically finds its footing and keeps steady quality throughout.

[Seil]

Instead of just watching individual clips of the shows isolated from broader context/story, you should just watch the shows. That'll go a lot farther towards giving you an understanding of what they're like/if you enjoy them.

Canadian Netflix doesn't have either Rick And Morty or Steven Universe, no job, little money and my TV/DVD player is on the other side of the country in my parent's basement.

[Krylo]

You have the internet, Seil.

You can watch whatever you want.

[Seil]

Hrm.

I find it quite a bit of trouble downloading things online what with virus risks and terrible quality and trying to keep it chronological.

S'why I buy box sets and watch Netflix.

[Nikose Tyris]

Check your inbox Seil, you have valuable information regarding iTunes.

[Bard The 5th LW]

SU is on Hulu, but barring that, its also on a million other sites too. I won't link them here, but use your imagination.

[rpgdemon]

SU is on Hulu, but barring that, its also on a million other sites too. I won't link them here, but use your imagination.

People keep saying this, but I think it is a lie.

[Bard The 5th LW]

People keep saying this, but I think it is a lie.

Here's a hint: The google search rhymes with "Ratch Meven Nuniverse Monline".

[rpgdemon]

I meant the hulu thing.

If I am able to pay for a thing to watch it, I will do that.

[Aerozord]

Cartoon Network and Adult Swim website both offer their shows to stream for free. Not sure if there is region limitations though. I remember that causing lots of issues when I was trying to keep up with Avatar way back in the day

[Bard The 5th LW]

I meant the hulu thing.

If I am able to pay for a thing to watch it, I will do that.

I have a paid account but I'm not sure if its exclusive to that or not.

[Seil]

Forget cartoons, just watch the Idea Channel!

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[Aerozord]

Rick isn't really a scientist, he's more of an engineer.

[Overcast]

Well he is both, he tests and considers theoretical concepts and actualizes them into instruments. Like with the universe battery.

[Aerozord]

Well he is both, he tests and considers theoretical concepts and actualizes them into instruments. Like with the universe battery.

some things you could argue he tests, but not in any way a contemporary scientist would consider science. In any case he seems far more concerned with application of scientific principles than research and testing.

[Overcast]

Well that is because he is completely lacking in peerage. And the only reason you really think that is because we only see him conducting application, because showing off research is boring even if he tends to bring Morty around during adventures to get materials for further research or other such bullshit.