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RangerAidan
06-13-2004, 07:33 PM
Instead of focusing on one breed, let's expund upon why we like other people in a way that's slightly more than plutonic. Keep it clean, folks, her's an example:

I like girls. No, I love girls with every ounce of my being not already devoted to my family and my computer. There's just something about them, that when I noticed how delightfully different they were from me in say, 5th grade, that they just jam up my cranium with all sorts of mischief. It's in the gracefully articulated walk that involves everything from the slender heels up through shoulders drooping ever so slightly above the blade waving just below the skin like a restless sleeper under satin sheets. It's something about the tone of the voice, from high and cheery, to husky and sure, to the irresistible slight rasp, like honey-coated sandpaper. I could go on for days on the voice alone, the body, the smell, the everything, but the attitude and the expression of femininity just kills me. Look, I'm dying....blarg I am dead.


so, why do you like who you like? All sexual orientations welcome!

Pretty Mary K
06-13-2004, 07:56 PM
I hate boys because they're stupid and stinky and smelly and dumb. >=(

IHateMakingNames
06-13-2004, 08:07 PM
Women. Boobies.

MP37a
06-13-2004, 08:11 PM
I love girls because:

1.) They are nice
2.) They are typically more intelligent than guys not always though
3.) More intelligence means they are more interesting to talk to
4.) If they aren't intelligent as least they are nicer to look at when talking to them than guys
5.) They smell really good
6.) They are clean and neat
7.) They do stuff for me more often than guys
8.) They have good fashion sense and I can get good opinions from them
9.) They are more sympathetic than guys
10.) Which means I can get them to give me stuff more often like food....mmmm
11.) They can produce children
12.) They look better in a bikini than a guy
13.) They are very understanding
14.) They are hilarious to tease
15.) They are the best people to have for company
16.) They are my best friends

Yep I LOVE women. I couldn't imagine a world without them. :)

Dragonsbane
06-13-2004, 08:13 PM
butts, boobies, and legs.......not to mention the fact that I need to reproduce (I'm not as poetic as RangerAidan).

why do you hate boys now, Pretty?

Royalspork
06-13-2004, 08:28 PM
god there are so many burks here!

I like/crush on girls, but I don't show it at all. :D

Why you ask, " 'cause I got them hormones"!
edit: ok,what I mean is that I don't find boys any better than girls or vise versa. just I got hormomes that make me crush on girls, and I just like girls who are like me as most people do.

Funka Genocide
06-13-2004, 08:36 PM
well, thats quite a question, its hard to generalize something like this, so I will say what I would like to find as opposed to what I should find, I'm not very good with this sort of stereotyping, sooo... here we go!

what I look for in a woman: interaction starts with physical perception, there must be an initial physical connection. I must find a woman attractive if I ever hope to have a romantic relationship with her, physically attractive that is. I find that there are two categories of unnattractive women, those who can't help it and those who can. If I got to know an ugly woman who couldn't help but be ugly, I would probably overlook that fact if I truly felt something for her, a woman who is only physicaly ugly because she has decided to be (ie: overweight because she eats her sorrows away, overly skinny because she starves herself or does drugs, or any other number of self inflicted... inflictions?) I could be friends with, but I would never consider her a romantic interest, I have enough self esteem problems myself, and having to deal with someone who destroys their own appearance would be too much for me. This is not to say that I am some sort of shallow biggot who takes the stereotypical view of physical beauty, I feel that most any woman in the world can be physically attractive, its just a matter of taking care of yourself, and this is not to say that physical attraction is the most important part of a relationship, it isn't, it is simply the first part.

after the initial attraction is present, its like a tingle in the back of my head, it says "find out if she's as beautiful on the inside" and so I must delve deeper in order to ascertain whether or not I'm wasting my time. The next phase is social interaction, observing how one acts in a public setting, more than one setting if I can manage it, work, partying, shopping, whatever. (this makes me sound like a stalker, I so am not, I try to make friends with the women I am interested in first, and before you are friends you must be acquaintances, and so must "get acquainted") you can learn alot from observing how someone acts under the confines of society. Do they rebel against it any time they can? Do they meekly obey without question? are they uninterested in mundane things? Do they find the simplest of tasks to be fascinating? there is a plethora of information to be gained from observation of social interaction.

the next obvious step, if I am still interested, is to begin hanging out with her. So I look for a friend first when it comes to women, and a friend to me is someone who can put up with me for prolonged periods of time, someone who can be honest with me, who I feel I can be honest with, someone caring, in the sense that they are able to consider others besides themselves from time to time. Someone fun who knows how to enjoy themselves, and someone who knows when to quit. there are many other facets to friendship, but these are important ones. After a friendship is made, then comes the romance. I look for a woman who knows what she wants, maybe not how to get it but at least she's on the right track. A woman who does not think in stereotypical gender roles, who knows the joys and pitfalls of hard work. I look for a woman who can express her emotions when she needs to, instead of keeping them bottled up inside. I look for straightforwardness and integrity. If she starts trying to play games with my heart (quit plying games with my heeeaaart!, was that N*SYNC?) I just pick up and leave, I don't have time for manipulative ass holes who think they can run my life just because they have a set of, umm... mammary glands, yeah, thats it... anyways, there are a lot of things I look for in a woman, but no one is perfect by anyones standards, so these are the main ones right here, if through dating I can discern that a woman possesses the right qualities, and that she is attracted to me for who I am, not what I have or what she thinks she could make me into, then its all good.

this seems to have strayed from the topic, but I hope its still an interesting read, this whole process seems like a rigorous interview board, and in a way it is. Women always seem to think (hey, theres a stereotype!) that they are worthy of the best guy in the world, and that if you are not him then they are settling for less than they deserve. Well, I just try and turn the tables, I don't let my, uh... testosterone, yeah, sure... guide me around and make decisions for me. Who I become romantically involved with is an important, if not the most important, aspect of my life. Just because she's hot doesn't make her right, or even worth your trouble. thats my 76 dollars and 2 cents worth, thanks for reading! hope you enjoyed the glimpse into my life!

Jack of Spades
06-13-2004, 08:39 PM
I like girls because they tend to be nicer to guys then other guys. If a guy hits his head on a locker a girl will feel bad for you...a guy just laughs and makes fun of you in short If you're a guy I probably like them for the same reasons you do.

Aerozord
06-13-2004, 08:58 PM
Ok now judging by most responces this thread will most likely be closed but I will post out of boredom.

First off I was never one of those...girls are icky types. I always liked girls. Although I am atracted to a good looker brains and personallity are far more important. Now the only real benafit between a girl over a guy would be the "extra" things you could do. Thats about it. What I look for in a girl is about the same as what I look for in a friend. I never believe girls are really any different so sexual things are about the only reason I preffer them. Otherwise its even

RangerAidan
06-13-2004, 09:04 PM
No, no. It'll stay open so long as the talk doesn't go all stupid.

videogamerz2000
06-13-2004, 09:17 PM
I like women for 10 reasons:
1.
2.
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10. Women have boobs.

Muffin Mage
06-13-2004, 09:18 PM
Girls, because I sure as hell ain't going to litter the planet with a bunch of little Muffin Mages by another guy. :)

Seriously, though, girls are, generally, nicer than guys, although guys are easier to joke with.

Krylo
06-13-2004, 09:21 PM
I never believe girls are really any different so sexual things are about the only reason I preffer them. Otherwise its evenYou can do sexual things with guys too. I'd go into more detail, but Ranger said to keep it clean.

Speaking of Ranger, I get the odd feeling Pretty Mary K knows him...

Shiny Bunny Captain Socha
06-13-2004, 09:25 PM
This is from a funpage that I LOVE, it just sums up why I love guys: :)


They've got that comfortable place on their shoulder that's perfect for snuggling into while we fall asleep.

They're at peace with their bodies, except for maybe some minor anxiety over height, weight, and baldness.

Chest hair, forearm hair and the feel of a newly shaved cheek.

Bravery around snakes, waterbugs, bats and flat tires.

Their unapologetic lust for a nice hunk of beef or chocolate cake.

Their ability to solve problems simply by throwing a ball around.

The glimpse you get of their inner Little Leaguer, when they wear their baseball cap backward.

How tender they get when they cry, and how seldom they do it.

What they lack in talk, they tend to make up for in action.

They make excellent companions when driving through rough neighborhoods or walking past dark alleys.

They really love their moms. They remind us of our dads.

They don't mind accompanying a woman to a party even
though she looks like a movie star and they look like the chauffeur.

Their near-endless appetite for discussing the ins and outs of work and money - ours as well as theirs.

Their genuine ardor for tinkering with toilets, changing oil and assembling gas grills - jobs any intelligent woman can do but would be nuts to volunteer for.

They never care what their horoscope, their mother-in-law, nor the neighbors say.

They rarely lie about their age, their weight, or their clothing size.

How awestruck they are in the face of a homemade cookie.

How great their hands look holding ours.

Their face is a treasure to behold when they give us a present they picked out.

They have a great sense of competition.

They give great hugs.

Though they often try to hide it, they're very tenderhearted and caring.

They have an uncanny ability to look deeply into our eyes and connect with our heart, even when we don't want them to.

They don't care whether colors match, but are willing to be concerned if we want them to be.

They can be taught.

They give us a peek at the little boy inside when they get sick
or happy or hurt.

They're enthusiastic about our bodies, even when we're not.

They fall in love so hard, once they finally fall.

CelesJessa
06-13-2004, 09:28 PM
I'm not good at writing stuff out like this, but I think I like guys better because I like doing stuff that's considered "guy stuff" more (like video games, action movies, etc etc). Don't drag me out to go shopping, I'd rather stay behind and play Perfect Dark with the guys. There are girls that are into games and such too (like my group of friends) but I probably wouldn't be more than just good friends with them.

And guys don't get as mad at each other for really stupid things (like, uh, complaining after walking for 24 hours straight. /past experience), I've noticed. (either that, or I don't pay attention enough)

But it all really depends on the specific person, I mean, I know some guys that I would rather not ever spend time with, no matter the circumstance.

RangerAidan
06-13-2004, 09:31 PM
I might, I might not, and I'd say there's no way to know, had I not camwhored myself in every picture thread we've ever had. Either way, I hope I haven't inadvertently pissed off any of the ladies in my life...

back on topic:

-I like boobs, too, fellas, if you don't, then you probably don't like girls at all. This at least is the trend at my school. But, dear god, just looking at a girl's smile, maybe just the voice, that's enough for me, it's just crazy that way. I am a true devotee of the female form.

Caska
06-13-2004, 09:31 PM
Men. Mmm.

What I like most about men is how laid back most are. I mean yeah, sometimes you'll run into a jackass or the stiff office type, but the majority are just open and easy going - comfortable to talk to and get along with.

I've also found that most can't help but be honest because they suck at lying. That's awesome, 'cause I hate mind games. I like things said bluntly and to the point, not insinuated, half-told, or with hidden meanings (unless we're talking about flirting ;) ) Hence why I'd choose to converse with a guy over a girl most days.

There's other little cute things too. When a guy's been raised to be overly considerate of a woman. It's funny to watch, and flattering. It's not something you admit to out load, but protectiveness (a little bit anyway) makes me feel like I'm important. Worth guarding, so long as it doesn't step into the guy just being insecure. Last little thing... the smell after a guy shaves, a deodorant like Old Spice, or a subtle hint of cologn. I don't know why.

And when a guy has a confident and friendly smile with a walk to match, not cocky or arrogant... there's nuthin' else like it @_@

Stabbitty Death
06-13-2004, 09:48 PM
I like women for 10 reasons:
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2.
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4.
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9.
10. Women have boobs.


My stepdad has a shirt that says that. I bet you have one too.

Devon Lake
06-13-2004, 09:49 PM
Soft smooth supple skin tantalizing to the touch, bright dazzling sweet eyes full of understanding and desire, fluffy flowing hair which soothingly rustles in the wind, cute little sense of fashion with loose flowing fabric satisfying to rub between my finger tips, a joyous love of life which can remind me every day of why I love life... Boy, girl, somewhere in between, what really matters is that sensuous feminine beauty I so long for in another!!

Erotically speaking... Guys have the versatility of being able to double as both givers and takers so I guess they're the favorites. Girls have those wicked curves and big fun bouncy breasts, but the sleak firm form of a guy is equally sensuous, especially with regards to a fine tight ass and sweet smooth chest to rest your head on... I suppose I shouldn't get into genitals, but let's just say nothing beats a good cock.

Aerozord
06-13-2004, 11:50 PM
ok to clear up the two comments on my post. Yes I could do sexual things with a guy but I am not comfertable with guys sexual. What so ever...I dont know why I just am. Even if its kissing a girl knowing a guy is watching is a huge mood killer.

As for the comment on that this wont be closed unless people act stupid. Look at how about half the post are "BOOBS"

Dona Maria
06-13-2004, 11:57 PM
Women are beautiful. You can draw their entire body with nothing but circles (aaaah curves). Men are nothing but hard angles (pun intended if you get it). That's about it.

synkr0nized
06-14-2004, 12:21 AM
No, no. It'll stay open so long as the talk doesn't go all stupid.

Much, much too late.

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 12:39 AM
I love them both.

I hate them both.

I love hanging around with other guys because of the whole male bonding thing. It allows me to drop a few points on the maturity meter, think up usually obsene or horrible things in comedic form, and to compare past experiences, joys, hates, and opinions. Plus the whole Wrestling thing... you know how it is.

I love hanging around girls because the level on my maturity meter is raised, allowing me to think on the philisophical part of me, the Intellectual if you will. I can come up with possible problems, solutions, philosophies, and advice; while at the same time providing a comedic view on each and every subject.

I hate Men because of the way that most of them treat women. They treat them like shit, then wonder why they leave when they've had enough, or dump them and move on once the first problem pops up. I hate men because of the need to remain closed around them. because the maturity level is so low, one cannot express ones true feelings on a subject without risking offence, or being labled a "pussy."

I hate women because they all see me as their personal diary. I get thrown in the corner to be ignored when everything is fine, then hauled out only when the smallest problem pops up. They tell me everything, I offer solutions to their problems, they then throw me back into the corner to be ignored until another day.

I love them both because they are great to be around, and provide stimulation to most parts of life.

I hate them both because neither one cares about me.

Aerozord
06-14-2004, 12:57 AM
I love them both.

I hate them both.

I love hanging around with other guys because of the whole male bonding thing. It allows me to drop a few points on the maturity meter, think up usually obsene or horrible things in comedic form, and to compare past experiences, joys, hates, and opinions. Plus the whole Wrestling thing... you know how it is.

I love hanging around girls because the level on my maturity meter is raised, allowing me to think on the philisophical part of me, the Intellectual if you will. I can come up with possible problems, solutions, philosophies, and advice; while at the same time providing a comedic view on each and every subject.

I hate Men because of the way that most of them treat women. They treat them like shit, then wonder why they leave when they've had enough, or dump them and move on once the first problem pops up. I hate men because of the need to remain closed around them. because the maturity level is so low, one cannot express ones true feelings on a subject without risking offence, or being labled a "pussy."

I hate women because they all see me as their personal diary. I get thrown in the corner to be ignored when everything is fine, then hauled out only when the smallest problem pops up. They tell me everything, I offer solutions to their problems, they then throw me back into the corner to be ignored until another day.

I love them both because they are great to be around, and provide stimulation to most parts of life.

I hate them both because neither one cares about me.
oddly I am the opposite on almost all those points.

Though I do hate when girls do that. Its like they only get close when they have problems. It kinda ironic when the girl you like only comes to you to whine about the person they like. The real ironic thing is that the guy they are whining about doesn't get all this you do.

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 01:05 AM
Though I do hate when girls do that. Its like they only get close when they have problems. It kinda ironic when the girl you like only comes to you to whine about the person they like. The real ironic thing is that the guy they are whining about doesn't get all this you do.

I hate both because they are selfish. After years of being selfless do you know what I've come up with? Diddly Sh#t. What goes around does not come around, what goes around is just merely gone.

Warning from a bitter old man: when you care too much, you will eventually stop caring.

Aerozord
06-14-2004, 01:12 AM
I hate both because they are selfish. After years of being selfless do you know what I've come up with? Diddly Sh#t. What goes around does not come around, what goes around is just merely gone.

Warning from a bitter old man: when you care too much, you will eventually stop caring.
I know what does being the nice guy get you, nothing. That is why I have been working on being a self absorbed jerk. Because lets face it thats who; gets the girl, wins the lottery, and always some how ends up being your boss. Of course now I must reverse my parents teachings. I just hope I am not to late.

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 01:15 AM
I know what does being the nice guy get you, nothing. That is why I have been working on being a self absorbed jerk. Because lets face it thats who; gets the girl, wins the lottery, and always some how ends up being your boss.

Amen.

One can only provide so much love without getting any in return. Then the one who loved grows embittered by their own loneliness and jealous of those who are loved. That's when you start thinking like the lines in my Signature.

IE: Me.

Nice guys finish last.

LeefRyder
06-14-2004, 04:50 AM
You know you'll never truly be happy in a relationship if you aren't with someone who worships you as much as you worship them. And trust me you don't really want a girl who lets you treat her like shit. That always ends badly.

RangerAidan
06-14-2004, 09:49 AM
Leef has a point, I've been talking to a girl for a while, and although I say I don't tolerate sass, she's as sassy as they come, and knows it's all for fun. Damn, she rocks. Just wish I had a picture to show...

Dragonsbane
06-14-2004, 10:05 AM
If you treat a girl like shit, you deserve to be treated the same way. And it's really annoying how many guys don't get what they deserve here......they treat their girlfriends like shit, and have great lives. Bastards.

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 12:07 PM
You know you'll never truly be happy in a relationship if you aren't with someone who worships you as much as you worship them.

Well my point is that such a person does not exist, or if they do, it's too late. I've been used and abused by both genders so much that I've lost all hope and love for both. You can only love so much without being loved back, and now I have no love to give.

Aerozord
06-14-2004, 12:20 PM
you see you guys are pointing out how it should be...both sides caring for each other and the nice guy winning out in the end. But trust me it rarely works out that way. Heck half the time I am nice it just blows up in my face.

Sithdarth
06-14-2004, 12:39 PM
Now I have a slightly different problem. I am attracted normaly to females and I have the normal human need for a meaningful relationship. However, I am pretty much unable to form emotional connections with anybody or anything. I have never had a girlfriend, scary isn't it, or a truly close friend. So if you believe the old statement thats it better to have loved and lost than never loved at all then I have gotten the short end of the stick sort to speak. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to get over this but until then I am stuck alone and lonely.

Vicious
06-14-2004, 01:16 PM
"Women are the devil! All they want from you is your man juice! Now, if you get any urges you can't control with hard liquor, use this! *Holds up hand*"

~Coach/R. Lee Ermy

LeefRyder
06-14-2004, 01:24 PM
correct me if I'm wrong but most of you guys are between the ages of 18-20ish, kind of early in the game to just give up on stuff. Heh my opinion, but if you convince yourself you're not going to find anybody you probably won't.

sorry this is all offtopic now isn't it. What do I like about men/women? They gotta make me laugh, I could never be attracted to someone who didn't have a sense of humor. They gotta be able to listen without pity. I hate that. Looks are nice but they're not everything, and more than half the time I went out with a guy who was really great looking on the outside, he was a complete piece of shit on the inside. Who has time for that? I've found the more things you like about someone and the more time you spend with them that every time you see them they become more and more attractive despite whatever your first impression of them might have been.

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 01:30 PM
Women are the devil! All they want from you is your man juice! Now, if you get any urges you can't control with hard liquor, use this! *Holds up hand*"

Celibacy is a hands-on job.

Heh my opinion, but if you convince yourself you're not going to find anybody you probably won't.

It's hard not to when the the closest thing to affection that has ever been shown to you has been pity. Pity is a poor substitute for love, both Romantic and Plutonic.

Dragonsbane
06-14-2004, 01:44 PM
Celibacy is a hands-on job.

SAAM, you have just won my "Pun of the Day" award!

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 01:49 PM
*takes bow*

Thank you, thank you. Try the veal. I'll be here all week...
I got nowhere else to go.

Dona Maria
06-14-2004, 02:25 PM
Not to take a dig at the guys here, but a lot of them sound like my ex. We went out for 2 and a half years when I finally couldn't put up with his whole "I've always been alone, feel sorry for me" crap. I'll admit that I did love him, but the constant reminder of how he felt abandoned at 8, how he doesn't feel like he has friends (bs), and how it was my fault he felt isolated (until I showed pain, then he said it was his) drove me to the point where I didn't care anymore. And why should I have cared? He spent so much time complaining that he never once asked me how I was, literally. We were together 2 years already and it took him that long to ask me a question about my past. 2 years! AAARRRGGG!!!

I know I'm bi, but I can't stand men. You guys say women complain? Dude, at least when they do, they'll ask you how you're feeling afterwards. They'll show SOME interest in what's going on in your life. Guys could moan all day about their shit then by nightfall try to sleep with you. bla

cruelty13
06-14-2004, 02:25 PM
First I'd like to note, that most first posts seem stereotypic to me. My opinion is, that appearance is not important at all, what matters is the personality. But I like women mostly because they have pleasenter faces and not because they have curvy bodies.

Dragonsbane
06-14-2004, 02:37 PM
most important thing in a girl, to me is

1. her personality
2. her intelligence
3. her smile

then comes the stuff about talent and curviness.

SAAM, I would sing you a cheerfully optimistic song about the importance of not giving up, but then I would have to beat my skull in with a cast-iron baseball bat.

Dona, I've known tons of girls who whine constantly about their (often trivial) problems, and don't care one whit about how you are doing. I can't honestly say I don't make generalizations sometimes but sheesh, hating an entire gender just because of a few individuals that you know? That's taking it WAY too far...

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 02:42 PM
Not to take a dig at the guys here, but a lot of them sound like my ex. We went out for 2 and a half years when I finally couldn't put up with his whole "I've always been alone, feel sorry for me" crap. I'll admit that I did love him, but the constant reminder of how he felt abandoned at 8, how he doesn't feel like he has friends (bs), and how it was my fault he felt isolated (until I showed pain, then he said it was his) drove me to the point where I didn't care anymore. And why should I have cared? He spent so much time complaining that he never once asked me how I was, literally. We were together 2 years already and it took him that long to ask me a question about my past. 2 years! AAARRRGGG!!!

He sounds to me like one of those guys who don't appreciate what they have until they lose it. He was so used to gaining pity from others that he did not recognize love when it was at his door. It got to the point when pity was the only thing he truely knew.

To tell the truth, this is the first time I've actually found someone to listen to my rantings on the matter.

You guys say women complain? Dude, at least when they do, they'll ask you how you're feeling afterwards. They'll show SOME interest in what's going on in your life.

I'm the one who listens to them, then asks them their thoughts, provides advice and possible solutions to their problems. the problem is that in my experience, they DON'T show interest. and it's not just women, the entire human race is made up of selfish bastards. I show interest and others benefit, then they leave me hanging when I have a problem...

Squishy Cheeks
06-14-2004, 02:49 PM
I once thought as you did SAAM. On both stages of your life. I gave my heart to someone only to have them do everything in their power to crush it. The sick thing is despite everything she did to me, if she asked I would probably forgive her. I love her, and I hate her.

Rather than complain and close myself off. I have decided to stop being selfless to those I feel who are unworthy of my concern. To those who have my favor I am a loyal friend. I can only be me.

Back to the topic. I love women. It's the feminine mystique that does it for me. I love a strong women. The women for me has to be intelligent, funny, proud, and most of all loving.

cruelty13
06-14-2004, 03:01 PM
and it's not just women, the entire human race is made up of selfish bastards.

Heck, even I'm selfish. Thats just the way humans are.

RangerAidan
06-14-2004, 03:50 PM
Hey, I can't help the fact that simply looking at a girl is practically a spiritual experience for me, let alone getting to know an interesting one, sheesh. I just know I'm going to get all sorts of crap for this but my priorities when meeting someone are as follows:

1. Looks. I can't have love if there's no sexual attraction at all.
2. Personality. No bitches, no hoes, no whiners.
3. Everything else is secondary...er, tertiary.

There it is, I'm unabashedly male and probably come off as insensitive because of it, even though I'm actually quite tender.

Dragonsbane
06-14-2004, 04:51 PM
I agree with R.A., on some things; no bitches, hoes, or whiners. Also, I agree with him about looking at or getting to know an interesting girl...it's a wonderful thing, especially if you can see past the things people usually notice (that's why I notice if a girl has a nice smile before I notice she has nice boobs)

Minor Dizaster
06-14-2004, 05:35 PM
Because lets face it thats who; gets the girl, wins the lottery, and always some how ends up being your boss.

Let's think of it this way. The girl that person gets will be the stuck-up bitch-whore who you wouldn't want to go out with anyway, and vice-versa. If you are nice, you will (eventually) get a lot of female friends, and eventually find that special someone.

Funka Genocide
06-14-2004, 06:54 PM
hmmm... nice guys finish last huh? Not so, losers finish last, its quite a simple progression actually. A loser is somone who has lost, now we are all losers at some points in our lives, and that is a good thing. Loss helps to define our personalities fully. Some of us lose more than others, be it because of our affection for a pursuit we have no talent in, or maybe an attitude that won't let us push ourselves. Even those of us that seem to be perpetually losing, can still not be defined as a complete loser, losing has not yet become our modus operandi, and it probably won't ever. The true loser is the person who doesn't get up, who stays down and makes losing the most significant part of him. he claims to be the victim, moans about the injustice of reality, and generally is antisocial. He typically considers himself "good" as does pretty much everyone, and might even refer to himself as "the nice guy" But in reality he is a self destructive "bad guy". When we are overcome by feelings of worthlessness, we find it hard to see worth in anything else. the self is our only true reference point, and if our reference is bleak, so too is our outlook. With a destructive outlook we hurt others around us, the very definition of a bad guy.

What does all of this have to do with anything? glad you asked! (even if you didn't you should still keep reading, already came this far didn't you?) Nice guys most emphatically do not finish last! A real nice guy is one who can accept his defeats and learn from them, while helping others to learn from their, as well as his mistakes. A real nice guy is someone who will think of the woman he loves before himself sometimes, and who is willing to make sacrifices in order for a relationship to grow. Sacrifices like not wallowing in angst all the time (its so much fun. I know) :) and not having to be cool all the time, just letting go of your inhibitions sometimes. A real nice guy is one who knows himself as well as he can, and who tries to know his loved ones just as well. A man who isn't stifled by his own fear, and who has compassion, that is a real nice guy. Its a lot of hard work being nice, and nobody can keep it up continuously. It helps to have an understanding somebody beside you to take the edge off. being nice to a wonderful person is not only easy, its enjoyable.

I myself am not a nice guy, I try to be, but I always lose focus somewhere along the way. I would ask any of you women out there a question though, if a man behaved in a manner such as I have described, would he finish last? No matter the response I get, I will still believe the answer is no. Now ask yourself this everybody, what is a nice girl? The answer will probably be similar.

Vicious
06-14-2004, 07:30 PM
Nice guys finish last! Green Day is NEVER wrong! The last guy that disagreed..well, we'll just say.. I killed him.

D'oh!

slightly aboveaverage man
06-14-2004, 07:38 PM
The solution to such a person is not to say to them "Buck up!" or anything. If a person has only known defeat, failure and apathy throughout his/her life, how can he/she hope for the future? Humans can not comprehend what we have never before encountered, thus how can one be expected to love if they have never been loved?
It must be introduced to them, otherwise they will merely remain in their "Pit of Dispair" for the rest of their lives.

crotchfire
06-15-2004, 12:08 AM
Women... are evil. Yep. Pure evil. They're far more cunning, competitive, and vicious than we men give them credit for. Seriously, if you think men are more vicious than women, it's just because the women you know are subtle enough to hide it from you.

Regardless, my gonads win out over my rationality every time.

A GIRL! Must... get... sex...

Oh, and don't forget ladder theory, and intellectual whoredom. The nice guy DOES finish last.

Mashirosen
06-15-2004, 12:41 AM
Friendly word of warning: I will close this thread if it turns into yet another "nice guys finish last, girls only want assholes, wah wah" orgy of masturbatory self-pity.

Fifthfiend
06-15-2004, 12:52 AM
I will close this thread if it turns into yet another "nice guys finish last, girls only want assholes, wah wah" orgy of masturbatory self-pity.

But now they'll never realize how important it for somebody to understand that my witty, obscure pop-cultural references and impeccable collection of Sunny Day Real Estate albums are merely the surface of the ocean that is my deep and sensitive soul!

And how important it is that this someone is 5'9'' with long black hair, a toned body, and minumum 36 C bustline!

You're just another stupid girl blinded by her stupidness to my special specialnessity because you're totally unfair like all the rest of the girls who are unfair the same way that life is unfair and no I am not going to curl up in the corner now and cry while listening to 'Losing my Religion' so SHUT UP!

Dona Maria
06-15-2004, 01:05 AM
I think someone just got banned

Lucas
06-15-2004, 01:15 AM
I think someone just gave me a reason to actually laugh out loud.

Pretty Mary K
06-15-2004, 01:18 AM
I think you've said too much.

Fifthfiend
06-15-2004, 01:51 AM
I think someone just got banned

I think that if the moderators here are actually seriously upset by anything I said, then I shall promptly and wholeheartedly apologize, and then go into mourning for the death of humor.

I think someone just gave me a reason to actually laugh out loud.

I think that you just made it all worthwhile.

I think you've said too much.

I think I've said enough.

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I suppose at this point, I'm more or less obligated to say something on-topic, so --

What I like about girls:

--how they all seem to go wild when you kiss that one spot just below their ear

--how they'll curl up in your bed and say shit like "your bed smells like boy!" in that cute little voice that just fucking kills me

--how you can make fun of them and they'll get all pissed off at you for like five seconds and then figure out that you didn't mean a word of it and forgive you

-how you can make fun of them and they'll figure out that you sort of did mean it and then kick you in the shins, and then they forgive you

--damn but they give good backrubs

--how sometimes they'll say "I love you" without expecting you to say it back, because they get that you personally just can't say shit like that until you're bloody well sure you mean it

--how when you do say "I love you" and they know that you mean it then it just means everything to them

--how they'll ask you how something looks and you'll think it's awful but you'll lie and say it's great and they know you're lying but they still appreciate that you care enough to lie

--how they'll ask you about something and you'll hate it and say so and they'll appreciate your honesty

--how they'll constantly play mind games with you to make you show how you honestly do feel about them, and how you can't blame them because you know damn well that you're full of shit and they probably can't trust a word you say

--how there's all kinds of things that you could hate them for but that you just have to love them for instead, because when you let yourself hate girls you never end up happy

--how sometimes you're a nice guy and sometime's you're a bad guy but they somehow understand that, mostly, you're just a guy

....

Well, that's about enough of that for one night.

Christ on a crutch, now I think I really am going to go listen to 'Losing My Religion' and cry.

Good night, everybody!

Funka Genocide
06-15-2004, 03:47 AM
you are very funny mister fiend, almost too funny... crap, no punchline, I'm not funny. "thats me in the corner... sob sob... that me in the... boo hoo hoo!"

Sweet Mussimmhunae
06-15-2004, 04:37 AM
I like boys because...

They are warm and cuddly
My boyfriend has never pissed me off as much as my girlfriend
Well, yeah, sex
They buy me choccie
They get a realy silly, sweet look on their face when I buy them something
They act like idiots, but it's cool, because that gives me a chance to make my full range of "oh my god" expressions
You can bully them into admitting how very, very sexy your high heels look, impractical as they may be.

Illuminatus
06-15-2004, 08:52 AM
I like boys because when they get angry at me, they hit me and then its over. When a girl gets angry at me she nurses a grudge for weeks until I've forgotten what I did and can't figure out why she's ignoring me.

slightly aboveaverage man
06-15-2004, 09:04 AM
I like boys because when we get they get angry at me, they hit me and then its over. When a girl gets angry at me she nurses a grudge for weeks until I've forgotten what I did and can't figure out why she's ignoring me.

...and then, when you least expect it, after you did something wrong again, she will bring that up again!

Women: They are a riddle, shrouded in mystery, wrapped in an enigma.

Men: They are a retard, shrouded in stupidity, wrapped in a moron. :D

If you want the physicalities of what I love in women:

1. Red Hair... *Drool*
2. Soft Skin
3. The warmest and most comfortable place is with your head rested on their stomachs.
4. Excellent Huggers.
5. Less retarded of the genters. :D

Dragonsbane
06-15-2004, 09:37 AM
the weird thing about this thread is, I've heard so many things I loved about women all along, but never really noticed I did until I heard someone mention it.

Wolfgang Thursday
06-15-2004, 11:27 AM
I'm have to say my number one attraction to men (other then personality and things like that) is their voice. I love the male voice. I tend to be very very picky about female voices, hardly liking them (including my own) unless there's something special and different about it. My favorite female voice is probably the women who sang "White Rabbit" for Jefferson Airplane. But back to men >:D

I love deep, low voices. Even more so if its in German, Swedish, or any other language besides english. Low voices are powerful, demanding, and soooo frickin' sexy. They're almost all encompassing and so fluid and smooth.

Though, my favorite singer is an exception when it comes to low voices. When I first heard the acoustic Spanish version of Blind Guardians 'Harvest of Sorrow' I was melting in my seat. It was just so beautiful. @w@;

But my favortie voice is differently that of my boyfriend's. Its the perfect pitch, not too high, not too low. Its not coarse or rough, nor overly feminine. It can be so tender at times, then silly and low. I just love it. :3~


Physically wise I love strong profiles. A good, sturdy Romanesque nose, strong chin. And, of course, good kissbale lips. :3 Slightly pouty, but nothing that looks like a fat banana. Hair color never usually matters to me because that is so easily changed, and different colors always look good on different things. For skin I like it natural. If you're pale, stay pale. I hate forced sit-out-in-the-sun-and-scar-my-tissue tans. If the skin is naturally tanner (almondish), then its just the more delisch to me.


When I look for a good personality I look for a guy thats fun to hang around. I like ones that are intelligent because I want to learn from them, but I don't want it so they are so much smarter then me that I feel unworthy and stupid. I like them easy going, playful, and fun. I don't like the boys that are 'overly' geeky and know too much about a certian game or an anime or anything like that (or like to constantly show you screen shots of them playing a game) . Like wise, I don't like them overly 'manly' and macho. Exspecially if they're big on the military.

And, for both males and females I want to be friends with, I don't want them to be too angsty or pull out the "life is worthless, why bother" crap. Or, on the opposite side, the "I never cry because I'm a man." Not that I want them crying over spilt milk, but some emotion is nice.

Lastly, I want someone that will make me do things. Camp in parks, go on vacations, bike, have fun. Not go to a mall or to a movie for a date, or out to dinner. Something that makes you feel alive.

Mashirosen
06-15-2004, 11:43 AM
You're so emo, fifthfiend.

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