Case Closed.....riiiiight.

[Raiden]

In case you don't know, Case Closed is an anime that is on Adult Swim at around 11:30 PM (central time). It's about some teenage detective named Jimmy that was drugged, so he turned into a little kid. Now he lives with an adult detective and his daughter, who turned out to be a good friend of Jimmy before he became a kid again. Jimmy goes around following the detective, who's as smart as a door nail, and figures out mysteries. Most of them are pretty bloody.

It's a good show, but unless you're into mysteries, it's not for you. Not a whole lot of super action in it. But hey, it beats the shit out of Lain.

[Stabbitty Death]

I like it, but there isn't much continuity. And it annoyes me that all the bad guys don't put up a fight when they get caught. And Jimmy's/Conan's little friends annoy the heck out of me. But I like how it's kind of like Scooby Doo, but it isn't about retarded hippies and a dog that I'm pretty sure is a hallucination.

[BMHadoken]

Yeah...the bad guys always throw me towards the end..."Oh, you caught me, you're such a smart cute little guy...so, I'll just be giving up now, that alright for everyone?"

[h4x.m4g3]

Better than Lain... ummmm nooooo. Lain is awesome because its one of the few animes shown in america that not only break the mold of anime ported to America, it shatters it. Still thats another thread.

Its okay if you like mysteries as said before the endings are kind of dumb. But hey at least it started to touch the border of whats acceptable on Cartoon network by featuring a transvestite (or was it just a crossdresser) in one episode.

Edit:Why do they call it Cased Closed, in Japan its Detective Conan

[Novasol]

Better than Lain... ummmm nooooo. Lain is awesome because its one of the few animes shown in america that not only break the mold of anime ported to America, it shatters it. Still thats another thread.

Its okay if you like mysteries as said before the endings are kind of dumb. But hey at least it started to touch the border of whats acceptable on Cartoon network by featuring a transvestite (or was it just a crossdresser) in one episode.

Edit:Why do they call it Cased Closed, in Japan its Detective Conan

They call it Case Closed due to copyright issues.

[Priest4hire]

I'm guessing because Detective Conan would have certain obvious problems. Like the 'Conan' part and all. I'm sure it's not actually about a Schwarzenegger like barbarian who solves mysteries.

[h4x.m4g3]

Hmmm yes, but still I always wondered why a bunch of animes have their names altered within the states.

Conan the Barbarian forget about that

[Funka Genocide]

I've never actually seen Meitante Conan, but its pretty popular in Japan. You mentioned it was bloody, i really wouldn't have expected a lot of violence based on the pictures I've seen, but I guess that might be why its popular.

[Forever Zero]

Meh, I've seen some episodes, but it never really caught my interest. I've stopped watching it now for the most part...

[Zweihander]

Why do they call it Cased Closed, in Japan its Detective Conan

<Proceeds to imagine a terrible "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" skit that involves solving mysteries>

[Raiden]

It would be quite funny.

[synkr0nized]

It's a good show, but unless you're into mysteries, it's not for you. Not a whole lot of super action in it. But hey, it beats the shit out of Lain.

Now that's pure opinion.
I, on the other hand, would have assumed this was another kiddy show if it weren't for the bloody mess that was the victim the first time I watched it.
I find the happenstance of the show to be trite, like most cartoon mysteries, and the premise itself a bit lame.
I certainly would never proclaim it over Serial Experiments Lain.

[Raiden]

I just mentioned Lain because it's on TechTV at around the same time as Case Closed. That show's a little messed up, in my opinion.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Oh wow, just from your discription, they changed so much from the actual show. The girl he lives with was a girl he was trying to go out with in the first episode before he was drugged. And she actually hated him when they first met (episode 1). And my god, again they change the names.... And I bet everything is changed in the fact that they're suppose to live in Tokyo and go to various parts of Japan solving murder mysteries....what did they do, call it New York?! When they go to northern Japan is it called Iowa!?

Arg...sorry. You can see why these things are annoying the heck outta me. Its Detective CONAN!!! CONAN people! That's not even a Japanese name!

[Mr. Viewtiful]

I saw the show once or twice, and I though it was pretty good. IMO, the artist's drawing style is a good change from the usual anime shows I've seen, as well.

Personally, I think it's pretty funny that Adult Swim gets a detective anime when the U.S. is overflowing with forensic shows, but not as funny as a barbarian detective :D

[Aerozord]

its an ok show. Though I wonder how those kids he hangs around with aren't tramatized by now. Now changing its name is ok. I can stand changing the names abit I mean it wasn't a huge change and doesn't ruin anything. What I dont get is why make him alittle kid at all. Even if you do answer that it doesn't explain why they would in the show. Would have made more sence just to kill him. Its the who little kid thing that I dont like to be honest.

[h4x.m4g3]

Yeah I thought the little kid thing was dumb. But the fact that he is a little kid does make things go strangely for him. Especially when hes trying to cover up his identity, or when nobody believes him.

[Otaku Son]

No! This is not "Case Closed"! It's "Detective Conan"! Damn Americans are their name-changing! Now what copyright issuesare involved? None. I forget the actual name of this term, but there's a fine line between names/characters/stories which can be copyright and others which are general public. Look at Dracula, Musashi, Son Goku...surely those stories are copyrighted and you can't out-and-out rewrite word-for-word those stories, but as seen in Brave Fencer Musashi, you can have a character with that same name and reference his story. Or in the case of Van Helsing with Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wolfman, you can use their stories.

Besides, what if I decide to name my kid Conan? You can not copyright words. That's like me saying, "I copyright the word 'apple.' Now, everytime one of you says 'apple,' you have to pay be $20." Even slang isn't copyrighted.

Further, look at various books that have the same title. Completely different stories and writers. Or, movies and books, like "I, Robot." Two completely different tales, two completely different writers, same title. And let's not forget the "Fair and Balanced" copyright issue Fox tried to push and got their noses shoved in their own crap.

I think Americans changed "Detective Conan" to "Case Closed" because they're stupid like that. And since I stay far away from Cartoon Network, I don't know much else about this show except the name change(because I'm a H-perv. and this issue was covered at one of the H-sites I go to).

[Aerozord]

actually some one did copyright I think the word the. They made alot of money. that person was a total jackas

[Raiden]

Actually, Maxis, it might still be in Japan. They don't mention cities or towns a lot, but there are a lot of japanese-ish stuff around.

And they probably changed the name to sound cooler. You have to admit, "Case Closed" sounds a little better than "Detective Conan".

[Hunter_Shu]

No! This is not "Case Closed"! It's "Detective Conan"! Damn Americans are their name-changing! Now what copyright issuesare involved? None. I forget the actual name of this term, but there's a fine line between names/characters/stories which can be copyright and others which are general public. Look at Dracula, Musashi, Son Goku...surely those stories are copyrighted and you can't out-and-out rewrite word-for-word those stories, but as seen in Brave Fencer Musashi, you can have a character with that same name and reference his story. Or in the case of Van Helsing with Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wolfman, you can use their stories.

Besides, what if I decide to name my kid Conan? You can not copyright words. That's like me saying, "I copyright the word 'apple.' Now, everytime one of you says 'apple,' you have to pay be $20." Even slang isn't copyrighted.

Further, look at various books that have the same title. Completely different stories and writers. Or, movies and books, like "I, Robot." Two completely different tales, two completely different writers, same title. And let's not forget the "Fair and Balanced" copyright issue Fox tried to push and got their noses shoved in their own crap.

I think Americans changed "Detective Conan" to "Case Closed" because they're stupid like that. And since I stay far away from Cartoon Network, I don't know much else about this show except the name change(because I'm a H-perv. and this issue was covered at one of the H-sites I go to).
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You can't copyright a legend. You have to have created the work in question to copyright it's name, hence Musashi's legend, or that of anyone else, is really quite safe. Square can copyright the name Brave Fencer Musashi, because it specifically refers to that Musashi. Unless you're going to tell me those legends were created in the here and now.......
You very clearly don't know copyright law, I suggest you be quiet. Although I'm surprised that it was enough to interfere, lawyers more knowledgeable then you brought the case up. You don't bring up cases you don't think you can win.

[Elminster_Amaur]

Name Changed?

...

Sarda did it.

[h4x.m4g3]

Yes Sadra did it he is also responsible for Groove Adventure Rave being Ravemaster.

[Raiden]

I still like the show. Probably because I'm american, and it's all I got.

[Otaku Son]

You don't bring up cases you don't think you can win.
And I apparently thought I could win, didn't I?

[Aerozord]

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You can't copyright a legend. You have to have created the work in question to copyright it's name, hence Musashi's legend, or that of anyone else, is really quite safe. Square can copyright the name Brave Fencer Musashi, because it specifically refers to that Musashi. Unless you're going to tell me those legends were created in the here and now.......
You very clearly don't know copyright law, I suggest you be quiet. Although I'm surprised that it was enough to interfere, lawyers more knowledgeable then you brought the case up. You don't bring up cases you don't think you can win.
perhapps not copyright but to resevre or trademark is a different story. Though it is complicated. If the word Connan is untranslated then it shouldn't matter because copyright laws are international

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Actually, Maxis, it might still be in Japan. They don't mention cities or towns a lot, but there are a lot of japanese-ish stuff around.

And they probably changed the name to sound cooler. You have to admit, "Case Closed" sounds a little better than "Detective Conan".

It doesn't to me. The title 'Case Closed' sounds like another pathetic way for some guy who thinks he has to change things for American release to make his mark on the product. when I hear that title, I get the picture of a bunch of guys in a room who couldn't write an episode of Itchy and Scratchy going "Hmmmm....so, we got this kid who's a Detective and he solves stuff...". And they feel like they HAVE to change the name. Some guy suggests they keep the name as it is and is immediatly sacked. Then some guy goes "I know, Case Closed! Get it? He solves cases! Case Closed. Horrible pun?"

It also passes off to me as something you'd see on a horrible serial. "Come see Case Closed! Follow 'Jimmy' as he seeks revenge on those who destroyed his life and killed his family! Watch as he solves murder mysteries and seeks devine justice! CASE CLOSED!!!'

God, its horrible. And the reason the show in Japan is called Detective Conan is because its ABOUT Conan. They have this common trend of naming shows after the star....CardCaptor 'Sakura', Sailor 'Moon', Rurouni 'Kenshin', Serial Experimentals 'Lain', etc. I wouldn't doubt the reason the name is changed, besides because they thought it would be a 'better title' (therefore changing the title the original creator gave it) was done because they changed so much of the stuff in the show that less of the focus was put on Conan ('Jimmy') and so they needed to change the name so it didn't become obvious. I've seen this in so many works.

[Hamelin]

I'd assume naming the name Conan would be referencing Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, you know, the man who WROTE the Sherlock Holmes books.

Just a thought.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

I'd assume naming the name Conan would be referencing Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, you know, the man who WROTE the Sherlock Holmes books.

Just a thought.

I believe that's what it was, seeing as how the author said his major insperation was the books.

[Sithdarth]

Did anyone actually watch the first episode. Jimmy gets turned into a kid and gets the doctor to let him into his house. There the girl he likes comes in looking for Jimmy and he hides under his desk. She finds him and asks who he is as he happens to back up against a bookshelf. While searching for a name he glances over at the bookshelf. Low and behold what does he see but his collection of Holmes books. Which gives him the ideal to call himself Conan. They never explained the last name though.

I started off very excited because I was sure it wasn't a show I couldn't predict. About 4 or so episodes later I'm solving the cases faster than Conan. I hate when I start perdicting the next scene as I watch TV and movies. Sometimes I even get the next line. Oh well the search continues.

[Hunter_Shu]

And I apparently thought I could win, didn't I?
Granted

It doesn't to me. The title 'Case Closed' sounds like another pathetic way for some guy who thinks he has to change things for American release to make his mark on the product. when I hear that title, I get the picture of a bunch of guys in a room who couldn't write an episode of Itchy and Scratchy going "Hmmmm....so, we got this kid who's a Detective and he solves stuff...". And they feel like they HAVE to change the name. Some guy suggests they keep the name as it is and is immediatly sacked. Then some guy goes "I know, Case Closed! Get it? He solves cases! Case Closed. Horrible pun?"

It also passes off to me as something you'd see on a horrible serial. "Come see Case Closed! Follow 'Jimmy' as he seeks revenge on those who destroyed his life and killed his family! Watch as he solves murder mysteries and seeks devine justice! CASE CLOSED!!!'

God, its horrible. And the reason the show in Japan is called Detective Conan is because its ABOUT Conan. They have this common trend of naming shows after the star....CardCaptor 'Sakura', Sailor 'Moon', Rurouni 'Kenshin', Serial Experimentals 'Lain', etc. I wouldn't doubt the reason the name is changed, besides because they thought it would be a 'better title' (therefore changing the title the original creator gave it) was done because they changed so much of the stuff in the show that less of the focus was put on Conan ('Jimmy') and so they needed to change the name so it didn't become obvious. I've seen this in so many works.
Record of Lodoss War, Trigun, Noir, .Hack///Sign, Blue Seed, El Hazard, Soul Hunter, Fist of the North Star......... Plenty aren't named for the star.

On the anime, if you can figure out mysteries, I suspect you wouldn't like it. It's entertaining, but not a challenge. It'd probably be a bit harder without the "Next Conan's Hint"s. They're sorta entertaining, but not terribly good.

[Aerozord]

well the problem with mystery shows (really anything movies, stories, plays) is that it must be possible for the person to solve. If the viewer cant solve it they think its stupid because they wonder how they could solve it.

As for the bad guy just giving up in todays episode the guy tried to kill him. Though I must say it didn't make much sence to explain his motovation but atleast he tried. But seriously who hits a cabbage?

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Record of Lodoss War, Trigun, Noir, .Hack///Sign, Blue Seed, El Hazard, Soul Hunter, Fist of the North Star......... Plenty aren't named for the star.

Yeah.....and just as many if not more use the name in the show....so, point?

Steel Angel 'Kurumi', Cat Girl 'Nuku Nuku', 'Ranma' 1/2, 'Sakura' Taisen, 'Kiki's' Delivery Service, 'Naruto', 'Tenchi' Muyo, Great Teacher 'Onizuka'....etc.

[Aerozord]

look same could be said for US shows on both being named after the star(s) and having names that have nothing to do with them

[Stabbitty Death]

The whole name thing doesn't really matter to me. As long as the show is good I don't care.

[EVILNess]

They changed the name for Legal reasons. A company in America already owns the rights to the name "Detedtive Conan" so Funimation changed it.

[Mashirosen]

Please shut up about the name issue before I close this.

[Raiden]

Mashirosen. Long time, no see. Like the avatar. :D

Anyway, it's a good show, but I can say that I've figured out the mysteries a lot of the time, except for the one where the girl is in the trunk of the car.

[Stabbitty Death]

That was probably the only one that had a surprise ending. It's allways the person you least expect, but in that case (no pun intended) it was *spoilers* no one *spoilers*!

[Nosferatu]

Shows gettin old....i'm solvin da msyteries before jimmy does...sigh....i had that Moonlight Sanata episoad nailed on the 1st part....not the details i might add....but i knew who it was and somehwat why....

[Fabricated]

Case Closed reminds me of an animated, more mature Encyclopedia Brown, what with the rather gory murders Conan finds over and over and over and over and over again.

As for the name thing, it's stupid, but remember the debacle surrounding Lupin the 3rd in Europe?

[Raiden]

The one about the poisoned bride was actually a good one. I had no clue that it was *spoiler* the groom *spoiler* I thought it was the guy that put the ribbon on.

Although, it's hard to understand that the cops would be listening to a girl that normally says almost nothing smart.

[Stabbitty Death]

Am I the only one seeing a bit of a formula being made? Crime is commited, suspects are rounded up (sometimes one person is excluded for various reasons, but he or she is sometimes the culprit), police are led on a wrong trail due to some false evidense, Conan solves the mystery, comercial break, Conan knocks someone out and talks for them, villain goes quietly after explaining some far-fetched backstory that you knew nothing about until then. Rince and repeat except for the episodes with the kids, those are different but usually involve some kind of chasing.

[Raiden]

I'm just waiting until he tries to figure out who the hell made him a kid. You'd think he'd be going around doing that.

[Stabbitty Death]

Yeah, there needs to be some continuity. Even FLCL had a central storyline, and that was one of the most disjointed animes I've ever seen.

[Aerozord]

!!!!!!!spoilers!!!!!!!

well do to cinematogrophy (misspelled I am sure) the crimes are obvious before they are commited. For example in the super mall robbery I knew it was the elevator lady just by how they first showed her.

The one they had yesturday was so obvious they dropped so many hints she was the only suspect and they even showed her setting up for the crime before it was commited. I mean even in Scooby Doo when they did stuff like that they made it so that they were all false leads and only a few real clues.

[Raiden]

Did anyone see the episode last night? The second part of the Smooth Sailing one? I fell asleep before it came on.

[Stabbitty Death]

I saw it. Another one that you could figure out who did it before Conan did. It was the one kid that liked to draw, I forget his name. The show's getting kind of old for me. And what's with that little song that plays when Conan's introducing himself?

[Raiden]

I think it's supposed to go longer, but they cut it for time.

So, how did the guy escape the vault?

[IHateMakingNames]

One thing I hate about the show is that every time there is a murder, it's always this story.

"The guy I killed was doing something bad, and I just stood there. Then I lost control, and when I regained my senses, he was dead. I didn't mean to do it..."

Which is why I some what like Smooth Sailing. The killer killed because he wanted the guy dead (Though they made him a pussy).

Also, some one unlocked the door for him.

[Raiden]

Interesting. Very interesting.

[Aerozord]

The thing is the clues are rather pointless in the show. How they act gives them away more often then anything. Also I am abit sick of all the murders. I mean a group of kids can't even play a game without running into a dead body. Only time it isn't murder its a, little kids beat the bad guy, thing. I mean aren't PIs more often used in extortion and kidnapping cases then murder.

Ok I dont mind the show but I hate the whole death message thing. Like that one episode where the guy carved the killers name into the dresser. if he had that kind of strength why didn't he attack his attacker. At the very least you think the murderer would notice something like that while he was doing it.

[Raiden]

Or the one where they kidnapped the girl, and they drove the van into the river. She was going to burn him alive, and he just laid there while she did it!

Yeah, he had a hurt leg, but you should still move!

[Aerozord]

maybe I am just good at this stuff but as soon as the...criminal...was shown on the screen I knew who it was.

[h4x.m4g3]

Basically all you have to do to figure out any of the cases is say "Ok who absolutely positevly cannot be the killer or is least likely to be the killer"

Whoever that is did it.

[Aerozord]

ok Yesturdays episode (Connan is kidnapped) really ticked me off. I was thinking to myself. Finally some plot advancement, this story is starting to go somewhere. But now it is even further back. And the Connan hint sucked, how the heck was masked man going to help you figure anything out.

[IHateMakingNames]

I didn't catch the beginning of the show (I started watching when he was planning to hide in the refridgerator). At the beginning of the episode was there reference to the book in any way?

[Joseph Pandora]

ok Yesturdays episode (Connan is kidnapped) really ticked me off. I was thinking to myself. Finally some plot advancement, this story is starting to go somewhere. But now it is even further back. And the Connan hint sucked, how the heck was masked man going to help you figure anything out.

I concur. It looks like somethings going to happen finaly but nooooooo. By the end of the episode everythings back to normal.

And also he show is called Detective Conan by all means. The end credits (I think I'm am the only persson on the earth that actually reads the credits for everything I watch) will show that the show is coptrighted in this country as Detective Conan.

[Domon]

Joseph does any one really care about your otaku-babble.

any way I watch case closed every night. i hate that show but i cant help it. i need to watch it, it comes on right before Lupin the third which is one of my favorite animes ever.

[Joseph Pandora]

Joseph does any one really care about your otaku-babble.


HAHAHAHAHA I will destroy you.

But Lupin the Third does indeed kick ass.

[Aerozord]

well it was worse then back to normal, its a few steps back. I say this because now he doesn't need to worry about his own parents or the others asking about Conan's