BM's Hadoken

[Bauglir]

I have a question. What other spells does Black Mage have for creating an atomic detonation other than Hadoken? Because in Comic 103 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=011228), BM nukes a forest because of a bee. However, in Comic 108 (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020115), BM clearly casts a Hadoken on the dungeon cam, and the results are seen later. He may know Nuke, but he never seems to use it again. So my question really is this: did a wizard do it?

[AceBandage]

1. A wizard did it.
2. Maybe they spent a night somewhere before/inside the castle.
3. You pay to much attention.

[Ganurath]

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010427 shows a lightning attack.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040124 shows BM at the BBQ.

I could probably find more, but I'm sleepy.

[Chargos]

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020410 He uses stone here, remembered this cause I was lookin' through the archives the other day.

[Ganurath]

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030701 presents eye beams.
http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=031113 presents heat vision, followed immediatly by my favorite phrase: Meh.

[Bauglir]

He used the fire attack at the barbecue as an accident. Remember, Fighter was controlling the spell, so technically Fighter cast it. Through BM's body. Or something. As for those other spells, he had already cast his Hadoken for the day. However, none of those spells result in an atomic detonation. Therefore, they can't be the one used to destroy that bee. Now resting does make sense, but no resting seems to take place after they are in the guest dungeon, and it doesn't seem like anyone there (except Fighter) would have waited until after sleep to discuss the stupidity of everyone but BM in getting caught. Also, EPS probably wouldn't let them rest. That's more of a Garland thing. So my question stands: Did Sarda give BM an extra Hadoken, or was it another spell in the "bee incident" (As I'll be terming it from now on.)? If so, which one?

[Ganurath]

No, BM cast it. Fighter just saw it coming and spun him around so it would hit the cow instead, creating Wood In Steak.

[G.I.R.]

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030701 presents eye beams.
http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=031113 presents heat vision, followed immediatly by my favorite phrase: Meh.


Muahahahahaaaa! I love that episode! LOL Heat Vision rocks!



- With Great Power comes.... HEAT VISION!


I wish I had bought that shirt....

[AndyBloodredMage]

Keep in mind Hadoken is a level 9+ spell. To get that high, you must progress and gain all the previous spell levels. Thus, you can safely conclude that he has a wide variety of spells to choose from to create destruction.

[Kenjar]

Well, these are all the FF Blackmage spells and their levels.

Level 1 FIRE LOCK SLEP LIT
Level 2 DARK SLOW TMPR ICE
Level 3 FIR2 LIT2 LOK2 HOLD
Level 4 ICE2 CONF FAST SLP2
Level 5 BANE FIR3 SLO2
Level 6 LIT3 QAKE STUN RUB
Level 7 ICE3 BLND
Level 8 ZAP! XXXX STOP NUKE

Note that, however, level 8 is only available after reclassing into a Black Wizard. Black mage dosen't seem to have those contraints, though. Level 9 only has Hadoken, that we know of, and the only level 10 ones that have been told are Ultima and the spells that Lich uses (I think he mentions using 10th level magic).

So Black Mage, in theory, knows every spell on the above list, as well as Hadoken, Feather-flight (Or whatever it is), stone, the flamethrower attack, and eye beams. Any I missed?

[The Mirror Emperor]

http://nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=021224

Of course, BM doesn't need his spells.

[bobtheking88]

http://nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=021224

Of course, BM doesn't need his spells.

that has to be the one of the most ridiculously hilarious episodes of 8-bit.... :bmage:

[Bauglir]

As to knowing the other spells, that makes sense. So that settles how he did it, but not why. This was before Hadoken, and in one case he even said that "non-level 9 spells aren't in my particular idiom." Perhaps temporary anti-insanity? Wherein he realized that he could save his Hadoken for something else? Of course, something like that would have required intervention on a level even Sarda might have difficulty understanding (remember his explanation of what BM needs to sacrifice for power? He obviously can't alter people's minds directly).

[Swiftbow]

However, none of those spells result in an atomic detonation. Therefore, they can't be the one used to destroy that bee. Now resting does make sense, but no resting seems to take place after they are in the guest dungeon, and it doesn't seem like anyone there (except Fighter) would have waited until after sleep to discuss the stupidity of everyone but BM in getting caught. Also, EPS probably wouldn't let them rest. That's more of a Garland thing. So my question stands: Did Sarda give BM an extra Hadoken, or was it another spell in the "bee incident" (As I'll be terming it from now on.)? If so, which one?


They obviously spent a night in the forest. We don't see every instance of their camping for the night (that would be boring).

[Chargos]

Yes, BM says that non-level 9 spells aren't really him, or at least words to that effect, but all that means is he is loathe to use them, he sees them as being beneath him.

[The Fifth Power]

maybe the bee thing is a mash together of ice, fire, lit, and such, causing a mini hadoken?

[Bauglir]

Okay. I've figured out how. Several plausible explanations have been presented by now. But why? Why would he use a non-Hadoken in the forest, when he hadn't used his earlier Hadoken for the day? Though of course resting once does kinda make sense, because that would allow him to use a Hadoken in the forest, and the next day, when they got to Garland's he could use another. I guess I'll have to go with that. Excellent suggestion. Now why didn't I think of that... Oh, right. I live with someone who had nigh-Fighter-like stupidity.

[Speechless]

Redmage should really be the only one who the 1 a day things matter to, he is the only one in the group who cares or pays attention to the will of the Dice and all the DnD such. So BM should be blowing things up more often, cause conbustable things are fun.

-Andy

[Kenjar]

The use of Bolt-2 should be enough proof that BM knows some, if not all, non-level-nine spells. He must've learned them at Black Mage camp, or perhaps by himself before he was powerful enough for the Hakoden.

[Bauglir]

I have it! The true solution! Unless Brian says otherwise, this is probably it! I was reading Bob and George and noticed the existance of the "gag reflex", which allows anything to happen, just so that a joke will have a punchline. Namely, the "bee incident".

[Loyal]

maybe the bee thing is a mash together of ice, fire, lit, and such, causing a mini hadoken?

Mm, nope. As seen in Chrono Trigger, a mixture of Fire, Ice, and Lightning-elemental spells will bring a Shadow-elemental spell (Delta Force). And an Atomic Detonation is decidedly a Fire-based effect... but it MIGHT have some Shadow power in it... So maybe instead of Fire, Ice, and Lit; you could try Fire 2 or Fire 3, combined with Ice and Lit. That might work...