what do u think about this..

[Dac]

http://minddash.topcities.com/texts/detergent.html

who do you hink was right in this matter..

[RaiRai]

Neither.

The children need discipline, though the teachers way of handling it wasn't the way it should have been enforced. A stern and frank telling off from a headteacher or principal would have done the job instead of having to result in physical violence.

[Dac]

ok but imagine this...if he didn't retaliate to the one that jumped him and endured whatever abuse the chidren would dish out on him as a result of his peaceful solution then later on it as can by seen by his violent reaction he may have done something a bit more drastic to shut the little buggers up..

[RaiRai]

Not really. Walking away from the situation would have been the better option. Even with adults to have something taken to that extreme level is just stupid. Because things can be resolved without having to bring physical aspects into it.

[hawkboy204]

Oh man, thats just crazy. I dont know where to start, maybe with what he should have done: not hit the kids. Drag them to the principles office or some how get a principle or vice principle in to the room. Sure it sounded like the kids needed a good beating but it wasn't the subs place to decide if they needed it or to do it himself. We try to live in a "civilized" society, and beating a bunch of misbehaving 6 year olds is not usually considered civilized.

[Speechless]

That is just....Awsome. to bad he didnt have a teaching assistant.

Dude...thats alot of midgets though

Edit: And anyways, black mage said it best "I solve my problems with violence."

[Krylo]

They were both in the wrong, but the kids were definately more wrong than he. Who hasn't had a hard day? Who wouldn't lash out and smack someone after they decided to hit you for just doing your job when your job had been hell for hours on end? The guy did what most people would have done. Granted, that doesn't make it right. It just makes it defensible. The children, on the other hand, had no right acting like they had been, at all. They didn't do what most people would have, they were just being horrible little brats.

[MP37a]

Wow he took on 20 first graders by himself! He must be like the greatest fighter ever! haha lol

But in all seriousness they were both wrong. The students more so. The teacher overreacted to the 3rd student. He's 6 years old. If he could actually hurt the teacher a fully grown man then that's just very sad. I would have just dragged all of them down to the office at once because they were probably only a combined weight of 150 lbs. Geez!

[Nosferatu]

They we're both wrong i say... but honestly if i was that guy.. i woulda porably did same thing to much larger extent...

[Lockeownzj00]

Even though they were kids, it's self-defense when there are 21 of them on you.

[Jewzeppe]

ya like seriously lol, all of the children probably could have killed him if they had the right things, or just beat him senseless lol, ya i think it was self defence against those brats...so i guess thats what our world is going to be in 20 yrs, instead of arguing on a subject, these polotitions will get up and beat the crap out of each other, what a...wonderful world it will be HAHAHA

[MasterOfMagic]

I've got this picture of the matrix scene where neo is fighting all those Smiths with a pole, just replace Neo with the sub, the pole with a broom, the smiths with 1st graders, and the city with a classroom. :p

I'd agree that both parties involved were wrong, the kids are much more guilty though. And self defense? Yeah. If there are that many attacking you at once, they could probably hurt you. Did the kids grab some of those little safety scissors? Maybe some sharpened pencils? That would hurt. As in, really bad.

[Archbio]

Even though the thing was written with an obvious bias to the sub, the way I read it it still seems like he started beating with the broom when there was only one kid hitting him. That sounds like overkill. But so does the whole class swarming him...

[Hacky]

He COULD have resolved it better but I probably would have done the same. Only replace broom with chair, and red marks on the kids faces... with broken arms and legs.

[Peo]

Yea, that guy should have fled, it would have turned out much better than it probably did. That doesnt excuse the kids, but the guy should know better, in our society at least.

[Sithdarth]

Your average 6 year old is going to weigh some where between 30 and 40 pounds. So dealing with three of them at once can be a bit hard. I mean your trying to move about 100 pounds or more of weight thats kicking and fighting. Those kids must not have actually got to him at more than 3 or 4 at a time or he would have been really beaten up. I myself would have called the school security staff instead of getting in on the fight. He was getting paid to teach them not to referee fights. As everyone else said both sides are in the wrong but the kids more so than the sub. However, he deseveres to be kept from teaching if he can't handle a situation like that without starting a riot.

[Nosferatu]

Sithdarth probaly has it handled the most "correctly" but, what hacky said porbaly would been me....

This kinda reminded me of south park..one with the guy named "Hat" in jail and kids decide to give away "free hat's" so the town people get him outa jail. Evidently he killed 23 baby's and people are like.. Ya if he hadn't killed those baby's they wouda killed him! Ya, it's a known fact that baby's like to gang up on you!

[Thaumaturge]

Both sides were in the wrong.

Personally, I feel that the sub was deper in the wrong. 6-year-olds are far from mature; this means that they sometimes act in ways that we consider wrong. The tricky bit is teaching them that it is wrong, and how they should have behaved. As well this, 6-year-olds are far less likely than an adult to understand the consequences of their actions, especially on others.

I wouldn't be surprised if, at some level, the rest of the class saw the teacher fighting back as a signal that it's all right to join the fight. Thus they entered the fray.

Even if the sub felt compelled to fight, using a weapon was still wrong. Against a single 6-year-old (as far as I can tell only one hit him at that time; the other two were fighting each other), an adult should have little trouble.

The sub should have taken the three offenders to the principle. If he was unable to get enough control of all three at once, he could have taken them one at a time, or called the principle to the class.

In any case, resorting to violence was far from the best way.