Final Fantasy Questions

[MyNameIsMoe644]

FF1 Whats the best party to make? For both late and early game?
FF3 Whats the best party to fight kefka with?
FF7 Whats the best setup against Sepiroth?
and What materias are the most useless?
FF8 Is a low lvl game easier or harder then a high lvl one?
Whats the fastest way to get the lionheart? And is eden worth fighting Ultima Weapon?

Any help with any of these questions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

[Magic Juggler]

FF1 is easy. Fighter, Black Mage, Thief, Red Mage.

FF6 is simple enough. Celes, Sabin, Stratgo, and Edgar. I equipped Edgar with a Holy Lance, Dragoon Boots, a Dragon Horn, I equip Celes with Ragnarok and a Paladin Shield, a Haste Ring and Ribbon, Sabin uses Tiger Fangs, an Offering, and Black Belt, and Stratgo has an Economizer and Gem Box. Everybody is equipped with armor to absorb Fire, Celes continually alternates between Runic and Merton (damaging the enemy and healing you), Sabin casts Bum Rush, Edgar Jumps, and this leaves Stratgo to cast Ultima multiple times over.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

[Quote]FF3 Whats the best party to fight kefka with?

I don't know, but you should always use Celes since she can eat all magic and if you equip her with that one sword found in the tomb, Rune Blade maybe, she can do max Dmg every hit plus eat all magic.

FF8 Is a low lvl game easier or harder then a high lvl one?

I believe reaching about lvl 94 is actually the easiest the game can be. If you are lvl 94, Ultamecia will be only lvl 90 but you'll have the oppertunity, if you know where hidden draw points are, to max out all your stats. So you'll be able to defeat her a WHOLE lot easier than being at say lvl 50-60 and her being the same, but not being able to max your stats.

Whats the fastest way to get the lionheart? And is eden worth fighting Ultima Weapon?

Gain Card Mod with Quetzaquatol (sp) and catch enemy cards in a certain field (forgot which one). Then use the cards, convert them to items and go to a store and obtain Lionheart. Lionheart is actually pretty easy to get. The harder ones for me to get were Quistis' and Selphie's. But all the weapons in VIII are actually pretty easy to get.

And Eden is the strongest GF in the game. If you use GFs alot, you definitly want Eden. I personally use GFs alot less than most but I still got Eden easilly enough. Just go to the two islands where you can max your stats and if you're say around lvl 80, go in with your almost maxed stats and beat him. Careful though, because you can't use Encounter-None in the cave and when you go in there, you WILL gain at MINIMUM 10 levels before you reach Ultima.

[Raerlynn]

Or you can get Eden the cheap way. Go beat down Tiamat. Draw from him. Instant Eden.

In FF7 I use Cloud, Cid, Yuffie. Cloud uses Hero Drink and then Omnislash. Cid Casts KOTR, and Yuffie is there in case something goes horribly wrong.

[Hacky]

Personaly in FF7 I used Cloud, Barret, and Vincent. However it really just depends on what characters you used throughout most of the game (IE, the ones with highest levels/best equipment). I really don't think it matters a whole lot who you use against him as long as do one of a few tatics: KOTR, mime, mime, mime, ect until he dies. Then there is the Hero Drink Omnislash for Cloud, Character 2 do KOTR, and Character 3 heal and the barrier, wall, ect spells. And then a mixture of healing when needed magic level 3 (Or just the most powerful for each character) and Limit Breaks when you can. And any of the Ultimate Materia you have the better (You get them from... I think it was Emerald Weapon). Defeating the weapons gets you some usefull stuff that help out durring the Sephiroth Fights.

[MyNameIsMoe644]

Thanks a lot guys somehow i got myself involved in all of these games at once and its getting a little difficult to sort out some of the things.

[Saiochan]

Well I'm very familiar with Final Fantasy 1.. So I'll post that..
The best character party would have to be Fighter, Black Belt, White Mage, and Black Mage. Some people disagree claiming that BM and WM die too easily, but that is not the case. I beat Chaos using just my BM in one game (the others had died on the way up). It's all around the best party you can get. It's cheap, diverse, spread out, magic and fighting, and pretty much kick ass in every aspect. For FF 3, I chose Locke with his 2 strongest weapons, the Relic that allows you to attack 4 times :p (i dunno what) Gauntlets, and etc., Terrra, Edgar, and Mog. Salright in my book but not the best. Gogo was a big part too. Good luck with FF 7. That one is annoying..

[gohann]

FF7: Cloud, Cid, Red XIII. Maxed KnoR twice with a third at 3 stars. All master weapons. Really easy actually. Anyone else beat Ruby Weapon with only one character? :)

[Archbio]

I though Ultima Weapon was a fight fun enough to be worth the trouble, and while it's easier to get Eden from Tiamat, you've got to factor in that you'll then have a low level Eden (unless I'm mistaken), and not much time to gain abilities, and use some like Devour to better your party.

[Otaku Son]

FF7: Cloud, Cid, Red XIII. Maxed KnoR twice with a third at 3 stars. All master weapons. Really easy actually. Anyone else beat Ruby Weapon with only one character? :)
Is it possible not to? I mean, the thing is immune until it puts its claws in the ground, and it doesn't put its claws in the ground if you have more than one character standing.

Really, for FF7, since all the characters are basically the same, just use any three characters you want and equip one of them with KotR. Just summon that thing twice and Sephiroth is dead.

[Kirby Pufocia]

FF1 Whats the best party to make? For both late and early game?


Fighter, Fighter, Fighter, Fighter.

Anybody who says otherwise is a fool.

[Martyr]

This information is going to suck, but the best FF1 party is F/F/F/RM.
The only thing it lacks is instant kills spells (Which only work about 5% of the time and aren't necessary), Life 2, and Nuke. Pure mages are really pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of the game. They're simply more fun to play with.
It isn't the most fun party. The party that most effectively utilizes all the aspects, benefits, weapons etc. in the game is F/T/WM/BM.
Note: Thief is better for a "best" party because he uses unique weaponsand armors (Especially after class change) and has the run capability. The black belt is super powerful and has poor defense and whatever... basically, it's a very bland character and the lack of weapon use and variety for gameplay value detracts from it's overall usefulness, IMO. Especially when Fighters exist.

As for FF6 (3 US)
Teach somebody both Ultima and Quick. Give them an Economizer and the Gem Box. Once that character gets a turn, they can kill Kefka alone because Quick and Ultima can be used repeatedly with the Gem Box allowing an infinite number of turns doind 9999 damage a piece. Of course, the Economizer is necessary to make the constant Ultima use possible.
Due to the nature of Ultima, you could make that member Cyan if you want to. (I believe that he is the least magically powerful of them all). So that's the absolute easiest way to win and, therefore, the best party. A single one. Otherwise, FF6 has so many characters and personalities and strategies and ways to make characters more ultimate than others that it's practically impossible to give a subjective and non-biased answer.


Edit: Kirby, you can't put down the value of that single RM. I mean, sometimes it really is better to have a shot of Fir2 or Cur2 instead of just another attack. Or Ice3 and Life, if you like. Besides, the RM can hold his own plenty with his Silver Sword or his Sun Sword or his Defense to make him a plenty good fighter. And then the magic makes him much more valuable an asset than just another Sword Swinger. (Besides, there aren't enough Uber swords in the game (Unless you count the Masmune) to satisfy the strength of a fourth Fighter. May as well be a RW carrying the Bane Sword instead of a Fighter. Heck.)

[Lord The Night Knight]

This is going to take a while.

FF1: I found that party setup isn't as important as proper use of the the special items. I made sure I never got rid of the two heal helms, nor the special staffs, or the shirts.

Trust me. A lot of party weaknesses can be made up with those. None can cast Nuke or Holy. But a few rounds of Mage staff, Thor's hammer, Black shirt, and Light axe against undead, will send almost all enemy parties to the void.

And if you need to heal, just fight a party will a weak enemy. Then defeat all the others. Then you can spen the next several rounds using the heal helms and the heal staff. And use the white shirt to deflect as many of the attacks from the surviving enemy as possible so that it can't slow down your healing.

I've played with quite a few party combinations. And this helped all of them.

FF6: Also, i don't think the part matters. Just make sure everyone knows Ultima. In fact, you can have everyone( except Gogo and Umaro) learn every spell. Just go to the dinosaur forest. Make sure your party is at least level 50. The best way to make sure of that is to have Celes be that high on the Floating continent. And don't forget that you can steal Genji gloves from the Dragon there. You usually get potions, but with enough patience, you'll have more than enough for a whole party. That will also help with the dinosaur forest.

That area has several benefits. First, you get more XP than almost any other part of the game. Second, the Tyranosaurs drop Imp spears. You can trade them in the coloseum (albiet it takes a few trades) for an XP egg. So your characters could be at level 70+ by the time all the characters (that can learn magic) learn Ultima, 80+ if you want all magic spells.

But beware of the Brachiosaur. It knows Ultima and Sneeze. Before you go, make sure at least one charcter per party (If you want to level up all characters) knows Vanish and another knows X-zone. Use the former on the dinosaur, then the later. It's the only way to guarantee it won't sneeze before it dies. But it's worth it because of the third benefit of the dinosaur forest. The Brachiosaur sometimes drops an econimizer. And trust me, if you level up all 14 characters to 99, the odds are good that you will have at least 10 econimizers. And that's using the XP eggs!

So once you've built up your party to how you want it, just choose any 4+ characters (except Umaro, who can't use magic) and blast away with Ultima. Even without econimizers, the three-level statue will fall quickly. But having a character with Offering and Atma Weapon (Ultima Weapon?) will help against Kefka.

FF7: Once again, the party doesn't matter. Just give everyone a mime materia. And have at least one KOTRound (Can't confuse that with "Knights of the Old Republic", can we?) up to level three. If you have enough patience, try at least 2 mastered ones. (Don't ask what I did. I had a lot of free time.) So then blast away at Sephiroth, and he should fall quickly. But don't forget your limit breaks. Tifa, Barret, and Cid have multiple hits with their highest breaks.

FF8: I fount that you level isn't as important as proper junctioning. Make sure you have every stat covered as well as elemental and status defence.

As for Eden, I'd just get it from Tiamat unless you're a completionist. (But you should still go to the lab to get Bahamut.) Then you can just go back to the overworld to build it up.

And just because all the other questions are about prefered parties, I'll answer it here.

Contrary to the other 3 games, I do have a prefered party for the final battle (also works against Omega Weapon). Fistly you must complete the King of Cards quest. Then play the king until you get the Gilgamesh card.

*SPOILER*



The King of Cards is Quistis.



*END SPOILER*

Then mod the card for 10 Holy Wars. You can use them all on Ultimecia, or half on her and the rest on Omega Weapon. Anyway, for Ultimiecia, attack the useless random characters so they die and you get your preffered party. Then blast her first 3 forms with Eden and your characters limit breaks. Here, I prefer Squall for Lionheart, Quistis to use Eden and White Wind, and Irvine because you can get 3 to 4 hits a turn with AP ammo (That's faster than with Pulse ammo. And it still does max damage.). I prefer Irvine to Zell because you don't need to use button combos.

Then when you face her final form, let het use Hell's judgement, or whatever attack drop your HP to 1. Heal Quistis, then use a holy war. Quistis uses Eden, while Squall and Irvine have unlimited Limit breaks thanks to their low HP. Simply use another Holy war the instant one wears off. You should have her beat in no time.

[Otaku Son]

KOTRound (Can't confuse that with "Knights of the Old Republic", can we?No, of course not. Considering the fact the abbreviation of "Knights of the Old Republic" is KOTOR.

Also, Holy Wars aren't needed against Ultemecia; she's too cakey. As for Omega Weapon, you can always hope luck is on your side and bring Rinoa into battle, and when Omega Weapon uses that one attac, hope Anelo comes in and snatches a Phoenix Down to revive someone.

[Martyr]

Lord The Night Knight: On your FF1 and FF6: He is asking for the best. Of course you can play the game and be creative. Of course you can play through the game and use the ultra-powerful items and spells to eventually win. He isn't saying that he can't beat the games. He's just curious as to what the actual best characters are. Raw.
So why don't you give him some information that he is asking for, eh?

I never played 7 or 8 so I don't know if you're helping him with that. In fact, I didn't even read those questions or answers...

[KefkaTaran]

Looking over this, I feel as though it's crazy that I've passed FF6, 7, and 8, all numerous times without doing any of the things gone over to become uber. Is that... weird?

[Martyr]

It means that you have a good grasp of how to spend your time.
By not wasting it on unnecessary pseudo-secrets in video games. Remember that all this uber crap is made up by fanatics. Once you've done everything there is to do, you don't have to look for bugs or level to 99. It's just what some idiots do when they have no lives.
Not like the current me, but certainly like a past me. (When I played FF1, for example)

Unfortunately, KefkaTaran, you're not wierd except within this company. You have a greater fault. You're NORMAL!!!
Unless you have a different love. There are many freaks who aren't Final Fantasy Freaks. You may have other addictions.

[KefkaTaran]

I think I may just be a videogame freak in general. I may not waste all my time finding unnecessary secrets in one game, but I certainly waste the majority of my time playing videogames. Oh well. Life's not so bad. :p

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Once you've done everything there is to do, you don't have to look for bugs or level to 99. It's just what some idiots do when they have no lives.

Or just what we like to do with certain games we really like. Geez...

[Ivellios]

Or they can be driven by the need complete the game fully. Not everyone who gets to lv.99 is a loser dude. That's far too stereotypical. Some people say playing video games at all is a waste of life and time. I'm sure you don't want to be one of them.

[beinsane]

On the topic of FF8:

The best way to beat Ultimecia requires only that you get Bahamut.

Because when you get Bahamut, you also get Bahamut's card.

Which refines to 100 megalixirs.

[Cheerful Coffin]

Best FF1 party would have to be black/white/red mage and fighter.

RM and Fighter will be your front loaders, mostly the latter. RM can take care of himself with some well placed ruses and an elemental or two allowing more room for your bm to have nuke and warp later.

WM is a must, wall, heal, fade, much like a cleric in D&D the sucess rate of a party largly depends on the pre-exsistance of one preist.

BM's elemental attacks will make the game a breeze and some of those miscilounouss nerf spells can be pretty good.

And the fighter is just plain obvious. Taking full advantage of his diverse weapons and armor list will make him the most self-matineance party member in the game.