Tales of Jahe Discussion

[My Lead Airbag]

Ok, Discussion Dealie. We're a few miles outside the Citadel, the white mages are keeping you in place, and you're free to talk until you're freed. Any questions.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

hmm... Where should I throw my character in? She's kind of... secluded... Or is she a prisoner?

[My Lead Airbag]

You're all prisoners. But don't expect to force your way out with magic, or with weapons, you're all weaponed out and with all the mages and soldiers around...

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

If you can be bothered checking for clarity, the website I found the information off Diamond is here (http://village.fortunecity.com/bernhard/864/stones.html)

[Dragonsbane]

hmm... Where should I throw my character in? She's kind of... secluded... Or is she a prisoner?

she's a prisoner, and Naerzul is going to be pulling some crazy stunts to try and escape.

[Elminster_Amaur]

We could inflame them to fighting amongst themselves by presenting them with a query as to the outcome of a fight between Link and Cloud...heh.

[Dragonsbane]

or Raistlin and Goku!

LOL, that's a good idea, Elminster...though I was thinking Naerzul would annoy that one priestess into attacking him, dropping the barrier in the process.

Of course...it might have the unintended effect of starting a romantic sideplot...she might fall for his charms ;)

yeah, right...:rolleyes:

[Elminster_Amaur]

I think I'll make a comic comemorating this. I'll need to make a Krylo sprite. And that new guy that was saying that Link wasn't popular doesn't get a sprite :)

[My Lead Airbag]

I think I'll make a comic comemorating this. I'll need to make a Krylo sprite. And that new guy that was saying that Link wasn't popular doesn't get a sprite :)
Good to know, I guess.

Do you guys think I should just break you all out now, or wait till everyone's posted their intro dealy?

[Ganurath]

Well I've posted, so unless there's someone who was delayed for more than a week...

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Well, Silvergem's about to do some freaky illusion making with the diamond and gold.

Extract from the website:
Diamond:
Diamond actually does symbolize enduring, continued love. It can also represent Air. It symbolizes clarity of sight, and thus is sometimes used for scrying. Magically, diamond can be used to focus large amounts of life energy and magical energy without shattering or breaking. When used in scrying, it often brings a clearer vision and/or clearer message. Diamond is useful in spells involving endurance and preservation.

Gold:
Traditionally a symbol of masculine and solar energies, gold draws the light of the Sun into the wearer, bringing vitality and confidence. Its energy is active and mobilizing, helping to turn goal into reality. It can be used in matters of wealth, manifestation, self - confidence, purification, attracting honors and to stabilize and energize the properties of gemstones. It enhances joy and a positive outlook. Healing, promotes abundance.

Sooo, basically, with what Silvergem's gonna do, ye'd all better stand back pretty fast, and then be ready to catch her :)

[My Lead Airbag]

Uhm...you guys do realize that no matter what you attempt, you're gunna stay inside that bubble right?

I think I'll break you guys out, even though we're missing some intro posts. They can just say they were lagging behind or whatnot.

[Ganurath]

Or maybe the breakout does work, but you really help screw over those mages and guide us out. I mean, a party like ours can't leave everything to one person.

[My Lead Airbag]

Eh, I'm lazy right now and have a feeling that unless we extend this, its gunna be a really short chapter. So attempt your breakout, maybe the others will join in.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Woot!

[initiate breakout sequence]

[My Lead Airbag]

Uhm...a flight spell? Inside a compound? And a badger? Ok then...

Am I the only one making cards for all the characters in my mind?

[Dragonsbane]

SKELETAL badger! Think about it, badgers have big claws and teeth...and its undead. An undead badger.

Seriously, could YOU concentrate on a spell with a skeleton badger sinking its fangs and claws into you?

[Elminster_Amaur]

In your mind? I have my character's card, and Magic Card Maker.

[Dragonsbane]

I'm not making a card until Naerzul has his own empire, legions of undead, and hordes of minions.

[Ganurath]

Howling Call, the White Shaman 3GG
Legendary Creature- Wolf Shaman
GG, Remove a creature card in your graveyard from the game: Put a 1/1 colorless Spirit token into play under your control.
Remove the top card in your graveyard from the game: Add one mana of any color in the removed card's cost to your mana pool. If that card had no cost or any colored mana in its cost, added colorless mana.
3/3
"We Lupos stand together to fight for the living, but Howling Call reminds us we have friends among the dead."- Far Claw, Elder Shaman

[Dragonsbane]

you're getting dangerously close to Necromancy, Muktar...:p

Spirits should be left to those who can abuse their power, after all!

[My Lead Airbag]

Thats actually not a bad card. I'd play it. Job would be something like.

Job, Human Renegade
2WW
Legendary Creature-Human Soldier
Job, Human Renegade gains +1/+1 for every creature with a color other than white that you control.
2/3
"I know that the Church's way is wrong, but I cannot change it alone."

Anybody know if people in the Arts and Crafts forum do comissions?

[Ganurath]

you're getting dangerously close to Necromancy, Muktar...:p

Spirits should be left to those who can abuse their power, after all!Sticking-Tongue Zubera and Honden of Life's Web say you should can it, as does Nature's Kiss.

As for Job, he's really overpowered. Celestial Dawn + Sleight of Mind explains why.

[My Lead Airbag]

I edited it in.

On an RP note, can we ditch the flying? I keep envisioning all these people bumbling into walls and causing a general ruckus.

Probably overpowered, but those are pretty old cards to bring out to break something. Still, there are those who will do anything...

EDIT: I just realized I wanted to say something like "Gain +1/+1 for every non-white creature in each color" or something. I hate wording. You're supposed to see something like he gets the +1/+1 a max of four times, for the four other colors of creatures. Gah, thats why top-down design sucks.

[Elminster_Amaur]

http://img43.exs.cx/img43/567/JobHumanRenegade2.gif
The wording is still a little off, but it seems less likely to be misinterpreted.

[Ganurath]

~ gets +1/+1 if you control a blue creature.
~ gets +1/+1 if etc.

Also, Elm, he costs 2 colorless and 2 white mana, and his a white creature.

[My Lead Airbag]

I went the Tribal Golem way myself. Makes it seem like he learned more from his travels.

Now I just need a kickass picture to go with it.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

wth! it's getting too technical here. I thought we were only basing it off MTG, not actually doing it?

Anyhoo, I'm not sure what mine will look like, but i'll give it a go. I'm not sure about all the wording, so please correct me.

V'hassa Silvergem - Enchantress
Legendary Creature - Naga Illusionist
When in play, search deck for [illusion card?] and put it into play. Before round is over, place card back in deck and reshuffle. Repeat every round.
Silvergem gains +1/+1 for every gem artifact in play.
2/4

"Do you know how to play god? Take an illusion, and make it real." ~ Book of Illusions, Author V'hassa Silvergem.

If it's too overpowered, you can give me your edited version. 'Cuz I really don't know how to do them cards.

[My Lead Airbag]

Oh no technicality...uhm, technically, its just fun stuff to do as an aside to the actual RP. But hey, if this goes on long enough we might have enough for a set, maybe a deck at least.

[Dragonsbane]

That quote describes Ixidor PERFECTLY! I swear...*shakes head and chuckles*

You don't have to make a card, Rhiya, they're just doing it because they're (almost) as nerdy as I am! :p

MLA, is there any chance that some of the humans on Jahe (I'm assuming that's the name of this world) are descended from Dominarians? I had been making a bit of a "family tree" for Naerzul, to figure out some of his ancestors...

[My Lead Airbag]

Pretty null since they're from different planes...or are they...

No, they definetly are, and if anything it would be a precursor, what with Serra being new when she started this place.

[Dragonsbane]

dammit...I wanted Naerzul to be somehow related to Braids. She'd be the coolest great grandma EVER!

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

ehh, I'm still pretty vague about Ixidor, but I get the main idea that he's a frigging cool guy whose existence parallels my own thoughts.

Actually, I wanted to test my ability in remembering how to make a MTG card. That, and it was fun trying to think of a quote.

[Dragonsbane]

Ixidor was pretty fuggin' cool...even though he was crazy at one point.

that whole series was filled with awesome characters...

Chainer wasn't as powerful, but he was equally cool...until he went crazy and became all empty-headed.

Kamahl...well, he was simply awesome. He had a lot of guilt issues, and trouble with his sister, but other than that he was awesome.

the First, Virot Maglan, founder of the Cabal, slayer of immeasureable numbers of people, husband of Phage and father of Kuberr's mortal incarnation.....he was badass, but ultimately flawed, so he got bitten in half by a Dementia Troll. His touch literally killed people.

Braids...total nutcase, but hilarious.

Phage...weird thing that Kamahl's sister Jeska turned into. Her touch rotted people into nothing, she gave birth to Kuberr's mortal form, and she was an incredible gladiator. Awesome, but a bit of a goth.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

lol,

so uh... any help with my card? I wanna see this really become a deck.

Oh, don't worry abot the picture thingies for the cards. I can search them up (or you can), or even doodle a couple and post them on my deviantart.

[My Lead Airbag]

I think I got one for Naerzul...

[Dragonsbane]

*sighs* everyone's thinking about the cards...where's the talk about the story? :(

[My Lead Airbag]

Well, I don't wanna rush everyone out and then have catch-up posts interrupting the action, plus you seem to be hitting it off with the Naga girl. Don't worry, this chapter is a lot more than just us escaping. You don't think the High Priestess is gunna like being underminded do ya?

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

weee! badgers!


edit:
There's a high priestess?!

eeeeep!

[Dragonsbane]

That card sums it up pretty well...it just needs "Tap: destroy target creature with toughness less than 3"

I need a name for that badger, by the way...any ideas?

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Poochy?

Or maybe Razor. *has run out of ideas*

[Dragonsbane]

hmmm....Cateran? Yawgmoth, maybe? I need something perfect...

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Il'rashna the Bleached :)

[Dragonsbane]

NICE!:D

of course, since Naerzul wouldn't think up that name on his own, he'll probably ask Silvergem to name it for him.;)

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Of course, another method would be to mash three random keys on the computer, and then add something in between them.

It worked for the person that drew Machall.com :)

hdk

hedriak or
huar'dh'ek

[Dragonsbane]

yeah, but this is the name for a pet, not a character...:p

names are different depending on who you plan on giving them to, after all.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

point taken. Still, it could be used for pet naming as well. The two run in parallel to the same concept :)

[Dragonsbane]

true, very true :)

[Ganurath]

Crawlbone.

[Dragonsbane]

sounds like a small creature that gets stuck in people's throats...

perhaps I should call it "Chester"? Or maybe "Virot"?

my favorite so far is Il'rashna the Bleached :)

[Ganurath]

Badgers crawl, and skeletons are made of bones.

Oh, and DB? They weren't already dead, they ran away.

[Dragonsbane]

dammit...I'll just summon some big-ass undead. I need to counter your bugs and your wolf spirit somehow.

[Ganurath]

dammit...I'll just summon some big-ass undead. I need to counter your bugs and your wolf spirit somehow.Just use a kill spell on the first enemy guy and raise him, followed by adding the soldier's bones and Crawlbone's bones together into a skeleton abberation.

[Dragonsbane]

erm...that will work, though for the moment I have a Whispering Shade summoned up. It won't last long, though, I'll have one of the church folk destroy it, then have Naerzul kill and raise them.

[IHateMakingNames]

I don't feel like reading all that. Has the group gotten their equipment back?

[My Lead Airbag]

Yep, but you didn't miss much, just DB and Rhiya's character 'developing'. We're all headed towards the forest under cover of night now.

[Kazastankas]

Firecall, Shaman-in-training 1RR
Legendary Creature - Shaman Artificer
Haste
T: Return an artifact with the converted mana cost less than X from your graveyard to the top of your library, where X is the toughness of ~this~.
R, remove two cards in your graveyard from the game: Deal 3 damage to target creature blocking ~this~.

"I'm sorry, did I just- BLOW YOU UP? YAY!- err, sorry, bad hiccup."
3/2

[Ganurath]

Firecall, Shaman-in-training 1RR
Legendary Creature - Shaman Artificer
Haste
T: Return an artifact with the converted mana cost less than X from your graveyard to the top of your library, where X is the toughness of ~this~.
R, remove two cards in your graveyard from the game: Deal 3 damage to target creature blocking ~this~.

"I'm sorry, did I just- BLOW YOU UP? YAY!- err, sorry, bad hiccup."
3/2Out of color, needs a species, and ridiculously overpowered.

[Elminster_Amaur]

I was going to make a Knights of the Round Table card, but apparently someone beat me to it.
http://mtglair.de/mp.shtml
They beat me to this as well(but I think mine is more balanced:
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/6803/TimTheEnchanter.jpg

[Kazastankas]

Out of color, needs a species, and ridiculously overpowered.

Eh. I'd rather not a card have two tap abilities, so the blockhit is about the only thing that works, because a continuous no-tap ability that involves hitting anything is too cheap. I suppose it's supposed to be a 2/1 w/ Haste or a 3/2 w/o, but blah. As for the artifact thing, I really didn't feel like going the way of the Slobad.

[Ganurath]

I was going to make a Knights of the Round Table card, but apparently someone beat me to it.
http://mtglair.de/mp.shtml
They beat me to this as well(but I think mine is more balanced:
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/6803/TimTheEnchanter.jpgMake it red, a Legendary Creature- Human Shaman, And the ability should be worded X, TAP, Remove X firework counters from ~: Deal X damage, divided as you choose, to any number of target creatures and/or players. I changed that last part for balance.

And to our host: what's this cool threat we face en route to the forest?

[My Lead Airbag]

Something along the lines of mounted riders, except cooler/weirder.

[Dragonsbane]

I can't wait...

[edit] so, what can you tell us about the High Priestess, MLA?

[My Lead Airbag]

Its one of those cushy jobs where people realized she had great power, so she ascended to the top. She's youngish, controls the Church (which also controls the military), and has some magic abilities. She's also working on something at the moment.

EDIT: And she's nothing like Akroma, she's more devoted to her faith. And DB, we're out in an open plains,t here are no caves, just the forest in the distance that we're closing in on. After thats edited out, I'll show what Bartleby is commander of.

[Dragonsbane]

ah...righto.

wait, so the High Priestess is a rich, attractive playgirl?

[My Lead Airbag]

Wait, don't change it, I fit it in.

And she's more of a powerful book worm who occasionally has to condemn innocents to look good.

EDIT: And when I was making Bartleby, I kept thinking of Keiji Maeda (from Samurai Warriors), so just imagine a battle happy warrior on a Rhino.

[Dragonsbane]

Dammit...you changed it just as I finished editing it.

Is she an attractive bookworm? Having Naerzul try to flirt with her might add a little comic relief, especially since she wants to kill them all.

Bartleby sounds cool, too....a bit like a funnier Stonebrow, or a battle-hungry Waistcoat.

[IHateMakingNames]

Nearzul is a half-elf necromancer who lives in a swamp... I doubt he is a major stud. Even if he has a pretty face, I doubt his hygine habits are very good (Since lives in a swamp, cleaning yourself really wouldn't do much since ten seconds later you'd be dirty). And he hangs around dead people.

[Dragonsbane]

Are you saying black-mana users are unclean? The great Colisseum of the Cabal was in a swamp, yet the First was one of the best-groomed people on Otaria!

I resent your prejudicial remarks about my character's hygiene, and insist that you retract them.

Also, I resent your assumption that you are so completely knowledgeable about swamps, especially about the swamp Naerzul lives in.

[My Lead Airbag]

Plus, we won't be very close to her, being that she's guarded by about the entire military in a very protected area, namely the Human Citadel. She's more the unseen but still felt presence that'll send stuff out to kill us.

[Dragonsbane]

so, want me to edit my post back to include the stuff about the cave?

[My Lead Airbag]

Nah, I'm guessing everyone saw it beforehand, and if they're confused about the progression they can just check back here.

[Dragonsbane]

cool, and now can we fight some rhino-riders?

[My Lead Airbag]

Technically it already started after my post...

[Dragonsbane]

well...it sort of did, but some of the characters aren't exactly picking up on that.

[IHateMakingNames]

My guy did. He's ready to throw something grenades incase the Rhino guy slaughters everyone.

[My Lead Airbag]

What characters? The only people who posted after me were you and IHMN...

Also, how does a skeletal badger 'bare' its teeth? It has no lips and or skin, its teeth are always bared.

[Dragonsbane]

good point about the teeth, I'll edit it. Still, until the Whitey troops actually attack, not much is going to happen.

[Elminster_Amaur]

I wouldn't happen to be allowed to "Tim" them to death, would I?
Well, would I be able to dehydrate big boss guy, or his rhino-thing. Dehydration (http://gatherer.wizards.com/default.asp?term=&fields=|name|rules|type&format=Allsets&color=U&output=summary&sort=name&first=201&last=300)

[My Lead Airbag]

You all can weaken the rhinos and the fighters, but instant kills are a no-no, unless its something conceivable, like you hid and spent time summoning a bone that pierced a guys heart, or IHMN using his little shrapnel thing and stuffing it into a rhino's mouth.

Also, the beaver now reminds me of Oy, so I will think of him as such.

[Dragonsbane]

Beaver? What beaver? Whatever it is, my badger is infinitely superior!:p

wait, are you saying I couldn't summon the necessary 2 Black Mana for a Terror spell? I mean, killing just one of them isn't so godmoddy...

[Myst]

I am so sorry for not posting, I've been away a bunch this weekend. If too much has happened and I need to drop out, I'll do that, as I don't want to stall the rp. Again, apology

[Dragonsbane]

No, just say you were quiet up until now...no need for you to drop out.

[Myst]

Kay, I'll post tomorrow, I have to get off tonight.

[Dragonsbane]

Hey, MLA, can I cast Terror on Bartleby or his rhino?

[My Lead Airbag]

No, no insta-kill spells. See, Terror might be easy to cast for a planeswalker, but not for a necromancer (and before you go searching up some obscure Terror-using necromancer from the books, when I say you can't use something it stays). You could raise some more animal or warrior skeletons, or weaken them and let one of us knock/finish them off, but no instakills.

Myst, no need to drop out, summary up to this point is thusly
You all were captured.
Job got you out.
Db and Rhiya flirted for about ten posts.
We ran.
The head of the church sent rhino riders after us.

Currently: Fighting rhino riders.

[IHateMakingNames]

The only instant killer is Drug, but he wouldn't go near the Rhino close enough to blow it up, and he throws like a girl. And, since he's only known the group for a hour or two, and he doesn't know if they are victims like him, or real criminals, none of them are getting explosives.

[Dragonsbane]

I haven't found any Terror-using Necromancers....and what you say, goes.

Drug isn't an insta-killer, he can just deal a small amount of damage with little grenades. Death owns you.

[IHateMakingNames]

Grenades are made to kill. krylo explained this well in the Battle Royal Thread. If anything has a grenade inside it's mouth when it blows up, it will die.

[My Lead Airbag]

To clear up any confusion, Bartleby and his rhino aren't the only ones were fighting, they're are about a half dozen in his squad.

And yes, tech, especially Goblin tech, can deal more compact damage at once than magic, although once you use it up its gone.

[Dragonsbane]

an Adamantine Golem won't. It's irrelevant, but you used "always"

If Drug can insta-kill with his grenades, then why can't I use the plethora of instant death spells available to black-mana spellcasters?

[My Lead Airbag]

Because, like I said, the only CONCEIVABLE insta-kill Durg has is stuffing a grenade into the rhinoes mouth and BOOM. Whereas, if I allow you to have insta-death spells, be prepared for a lot of enemies who have protection towards black spells to even it out.

[Dragonsbane]

I know, that was directed at IHMN...humorously meant, since he seemed to think Drug would always get a grenade into the enemy's mouth.

Yes, deny it now, IHMN...

No need, Naerzul doesn't know kill spells yet, just weakening, and raising some undead.

[IHateMakingNames]

Where did you get the impression that I thought Drug could get grenades in peoples mouth?

The only instant killer is Drug, but he wouldn't go near the Rhino close enough to blow it up, and he throws like a girl. And, since he's only known the group for a hour or two, and he doesn't know if they are victims like him, or real criminals, none of them are getting explosives.

That post alone says Drug would almost never get a grenade in the rhino's (And most other things bigger then him, which is everything) mouth.

[Dragonsbane]

DENY IT NOW!!!

Yes, that was a joke, a sarcastic one.

[My Lead Airbag]

Card Time Beginu!!!

[IHateMakingNames]

Fiercest warriors? The guy just died by tripping on a badger and being stabbed by a necromancer. That's pathetic.

[My Lead Airbag]

Yeah, but thats what artistic license lends you. In game, both of them would be dead. And I'm weighing having Bartleby be a recurring villain/ally/something later, so don't kill him or his rhino...yet...

[Dragonsbane]

IHMN, are you saying that stabbing does not kill people? Or that they should somehow be immune to 42 inches of steel being shoved through their vital organs?

He tripped, then the badger sunk its teeth and claws into his leg. That would hurt.

[edit] Bartleby sounds like a competent warrior, and like a potential rebel later on. I personally recommend that he survives, but gets wounded...and perhaps trapped under a dead rhino.

[IHateMakingNames]

No, it's pathetic that this 'fierce warrior' can't see where he is going and drops his sword from the bite/claws of a small undead woodland creature. I would figure a fierce warrior would just step on the moving piles of bones and break it apart.

Edit - Like, let us say Firecall (I think that was his name) was replaced with the rhino rider. He would smash the badger then bash the necromancers face in.

[Dragonsbane]

IHMN...have you ever seen a badger? More specifically, have you ever seen a badger's claws?

right.....you're substituting a PC (Firecall) to try and get Kaz on your side. Low, very low.

Another note, when you're riding something, and it collapses under you, you aren't immediately in tip-top fighting shape after you regain your feet. Now, unless MLA has a problem with my post, you can shut up about it.

[IHateMakingNames]

Yes, I know what a badger is.

No, I brought in a PC since a PC would be a "fierce warrior", and there were no other examples.

Also, I am merely making fun of these "fierce warriors". It's a joke you see.

[My Lead Airbag]

Well at first it kinda didn't make sense, but then I realized these were our first opponents and we'll be fighting things a lot worse soon enough, so I'll let it go.

And I find it funny that even after draining the energy of a warrior and a rhino, your badger/beaver only grew to a dog size.

[Dragonsbane]

Actually...I meant that it's standing as tall as a Great Dane or Mastiff at the shoulder...badgers are much wider. In reality, (if it was still alive, and had all of the meat on it), it would weigh quite a lot more than a dog of that height...maybe twice as much. Possibly more.

Less of a joke than a criticism, IHMN, but I've done the same...so arguing the point would be hypocrisy.

[edit] I think the badger shall be named....Il'rashna Crawlbone!:D

[My Lead Airbag]

Uhm Elminster, what part of "No, there are no planeswalkers." didn't you understand? Nobody can just summon a giant monster from the middle of nowhere, especially not a hume trainee. And if you wanna aruge that Timmy merely 'called' the drake, I'll counter with "WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING PLAINLANDS". Thats just way too much power, even if it does 'drain him'. Either delete or edit your post.

DB- I know that in this case it was a valid argument, but can we stop the bitching over the insta-kill thing? You already proved my point when you said that there were no black insta-killers, excepting for Phage's poisonous touch thing, so get over it.

[Dragonsbane]

the insta-kill has become a joke at this point. I wouldn't use it even if I could...too painless!:p

Still...someone in our group DID just summon a huge Phantom Nishoba. A 2/2 drake isn't really so bad, is it?

[My Lead Airbag]

No, he used spirts that were already there and just called them up (and its only killed one guy), while Elminster called a drake from miles away that appeared in a split second and killed a guy.

[Dragonsbane]

yeah...but compare the strengths of a Phantom Nishoba and a Drake. I would personally recommend against both of them, but Crawlbone could probably kill a drake at this point.

[My Lead Airbag]

Oy, I shoulda left off the MtG name to start with...

Just because its called a Phantom Nishoba doesn't mean it has the same stats. I mean, we've already killed a bunch of things that in card form would have shiskebobbed us. You should know that most of all DB, what with Red Kamahl's card form being a joke.

So to all people who have been basing this off an extra flavorful cardgame: STOP. You can RP normally, none of this "He grasped the stones of his father-in-law's house for the mana he would" blah. I'm positive all of you have RPed before, this is no different from some regular RP set in a different world.

So, like I said at the begining, this a world based off Magic FLAVOR principals, not mechanics, so don't let the origin restrict your RPing.

[IHateMakingNames]

So, while a Drake is only 2/2, here it would kill us (Using the connection that a drake is a small dragon, and I'm assuming our group would be slaughtered by a dragon).

[Kazastankas]

Dragonsbane, close both your assumptions on what we can summon based by Creature Power rather than the environment, and your hostility against IHMN (which goes for both sides). It's really not healthy for the RP if this persists. Flame wars do wonders for a RP's life.

Phantom Nishoba requires spirits around (they don't have as many as five, and the Nishoba won't be a 7/7 in terms of relative power. That's established), white mana (endless plains, hello?) and green mana (the forest we're running to.)

It's difficult to get blue mana from islands, since we aren't near any formidable body of water there.

[Elminster_Amaur]

Post deleted.

[Dragonsbane]

right...but considering that all I can do is make dead things come back to a weakened state of life, when everyone else can summon Nishobas or toss Fireballs or hurl rhinocerouses, it seems like my powers are kinda meager by comparison.

Unless....*evil grin*

I think I found the idea for my next post...

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Oi! MLA DID say that Naga are well versed in all types of magic but white. Silvergem may be an expert at illusions and enchantments, but she’s not dumb in the other areas, so she can summon up the mana to cast fireballs or lightning bolts as well.

Wait till you see her drop a huge block of solid illusions on the next victim. :P

[Dragonsbane]

Right....if she spent enough time at illusionry to cast solid illusions, where in the Nine Hells of Phyrexia did she gain the ability to cast fireballs, which are RED spells!!??

Blue magic is powerful enough, and it can do things none of the others can do...like telekinesis, flight, and Counterspell. This, combined with the fact that Blue creatures include flyers and immensely strong seadwellers, makes Blue one of the most potent kinds of magic for a spellcaster. You don't need fireballs! I'm fine with using a gem someone else made, but a Blue-mana caster has no reason to cast a Red-mana spell.

MLA, please tell me that my character has some unique skill that only Black spellcasters can use, to make up for this! Howling Call can do necromancy, summoning spirits of massive power, and Naerzul is limited to zombies and shades...of course, HC can also make things stronger with his Green magic, heal creatures, and summon all sorts of things. Silvergem is not only skilled enough to make illusions real, but she can also cast spells entirely outside her element! Firecall isn't as extreme, but rhinos weigh a lot, and the ability to swing them around like that is quite powerful.

Please, tell me how this is fair...or what my character can do to make it fair, besides animating lots and lots and lots of low-powered undead.

[edit] sorry if I sound grumpy, but it's true...unless I can summon Mortivores or Sutured Ghouls, or some other form of potent Black creature that I didn't know about.

[My Lead Airbag]

Oy, I guess I kinda glossed over Rhiya's posts...

Rhuya, read over the Naga description (see how I didn't say Blue description, more on this later) and pay special attention. I said the Naga had access to magic unavailable to the other magics...hmm, othe rmust mean everything BUT the naga right? So you're not only barred from the Church's mages and clerics, but (it would seem), that also the Lupos's spirit calling, the Dark Elves death connection, and even *SHOCKER* the Goblins and Barbarians fire and lightning spells. As a Naga you can do stuff they can't, not stuff they can. TK, Controlled wind bursts, illusions, mind reading, these are your forte, not godmodding and blaming it on having a study worm.

And did nobody read my rant? We're not going by Magic rules, you don't have to keep saying things like "He checked his mana tablets" or (and this one doesn't even make sense) "Her mana pool was low"...WHAT? How does she know her mana pool is low, she draws it from herself and her gems...

Just as a helper, here's a little guideline/list so you all know where you fit in magic wise...

Lupos: Spirit calling (although they aren't as strong as their real life counterparts), boosting (not +crap/+shit, stuff like improved stamina, real world kind of empowering)
Goblins/Barbarians: Tech (lotta damage, little supply), Boom (any kind of spell that just serves to hurt)
Clerics/Mages: Protection (like a magic shield), healing.
Dark Elves: Depowering (more like advanced poisoining), Soul Drain (takes more than a second *cough* Myst), resurrection, IN A CHAPTER OR TWO demon calling (although it'll be real demon calling, like giving up blood or a body part)
Naga: Anything else barring Time Magic and teleportation.

Got it?

[Dragonsbane]

Mind if I add to that?

Green: Green magic is growth, life, the process of change as nature progresses. Green magic is innately connected to forests. Green spells tend to further this growth. Any spell connected with growth, regenerating, nature, and now spirits is under this category.

Red: Chaos, destruction, fire, fury, Blasty doom, all these are the province of Red magic. Red magic is connected with the fire and stone of the mountains, and its spells tend to be geared towards battle and hurting things.

White: Where there Light, there is Order and purity. White mages often seek those things at any cost. White magic is the spirit of order and purity, though it doesn't always care if the law is followed willingly or not, so long as it is followed. White magic is connected to the wide plains, where the sky is clearly visible, and light prevails. White spells tend to include healing, smiting or blocking enemy colors, by means of protecting against them....anything involving light or order is also probably connected to it.

Black: Where there is light, there must also be darkness. Decay, death, corruption, disease...Black magic is connected with the swamps, places where decay runs rampant, but life still persists. Black magic does not promote a quiet, restful state of existence, instead dragging up dead beings to make them "useful" once more, decaying or weakening enemies, rending souls from bodies, and many other parts of death and decay. Generally considered "evil", it is greatly misunderstood by many, giving Black spellcasters a bad reputation...though not an entirely undeserved one.

Blue: Blue magic deals with the Mind, and with the islands and oceans, wide skies and wide seas. It is Control. Blue magic deals not only with shaping minds, but with how the mind can shape the world. In some ways, this is the most versatile kind of magic. Almost anything involving control, such as mind control or telekinesis or flying is Blue, as well as anything that deals with illusions, water, countering enemy spells, deception, and that sort of thing.

[My Lead Airbag]

Yes, thank you, and to reiterate...

See all those instances of 'connected to [place]' and 'symbolic of [place]'? Screw em, got it. Magic casting is drawing on your own power, not that of the area you're in. Will you get more power if your in your element? Sure, but not because its lending you mana, more because, hey, you're home, you're happy, and if someone is about to mess with your home, you're pissed, you'll fight harder. So stop RPing any differently than you would in any RP.

I'll start the next chapter tomm.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

err, MLA, I wasn't relating my mana pool and stuff in that sense. She has an overall sense of how much mana she has and can store, and that's what she reckons as her mana pool. When she's checking it, she's just checking her energy and such... I didn't mean it literally.

Ok, I won't do that fireball again. I didn't realise that naga was mostly restricted to blue magic (partially owing to the fact that I'm still not very clear on most of MTG-related rules and magic casting and such.)

Apologies.

[Dragonsbane]

If you have MtG questions, PM myself or MLA. RP-specific ones should be sent to him, but I'll do my best to answer your general questions, since I've been playing for a few years now.

[Kazastankas]

For clarification, can we please stop killing invisible Rhino riders now? MLA said there were six, and my second post had like numbers six and seven.

[Dragonsbane]

ah...can we assume there were six arriving with Bartleby, and a few more lagging behind? But there are none left, that's a given.

[My Lead Airbag]

Ok, new chapter, and prolly new Discussion, soon. We all just fell into a cave, we had been battling on some hollow ground that didn't agree with all the rhinos and such. Bartleby isn't there though.

[Dragonsbane]

So, where's that new chapter? I have many questions that need answering!

What caused the sinkhole?
Was it undead?
Is there treasure?
Why is Bartleby so incredibly cool?

[My Lead Airbag]

So, where's that new chapter? I have many questions that need answering!

What caused the sinkhole?
Was it undead?
Is there treasure?
Why is Bartleby so incredibly cool?
Here ya go. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinkhole)

Its a natural occurence, it has no life or undeath.

Uhm...kinda not, unless you count living as a treasure.

Cuz I concocted him.

New chapter will be up...when I work it out storywise. I kind of have it worked out, but I don't know if its enough to warrant two chapters or one.

[Dragonsbane]

So....sinkhole sprites don't really exist? My life is a LIE!!!! *eyes tear up*

But you didn't answer my first question...in other words, please make the next chapter, that we might send explore this "sinkhole".

[Kazastankas]

Sinkhole Sprites DO exist, but they take a while to get BB in their mana pool.

[Ganurath]

Shouldn't we start a new discussion thread? This thing's at 13 pages...

[Dragonsbane]

Not yet, but soon perhaps!

by the way, extra points if you guess where I got the idea for Naerzul's death-energy-absorbing trick!

[hint]it's probably not a card, but it has to do with the Torment series..

[Ganurath]

It would have to have something to do with Chainer's working with the Mirari... I wish I read the book.

I just introduced myself, although only basely. Splitting Howl may recognize my name as that of a destined shaman, as might anyone else who's up to date on Lupos current events.

Why do I feel like we're facing a Clickslither? (Watch out IHMN!)

[Dragonsbane]

Close...but not entirely correct!

It involves Chainer, but not the mirari. He originally used the technique to gain a temporary power boost, then later used the mirari to create a godmoded version of the same effect...only it drove him insane. No, it wasn't a specific spell that only Chainer could do, it was a widespread technique.

The technique was necessary in order to avoid "wasting" deaths, both of fellow Cabal members and potential Cabal customers, but can only be used on a creature that is currently dying, feeding off the energy produced by the transfer from life to death.