anyone like EminEm?

[FoamyFrickinKrzE]

EminEm...ya i like him...so i made this thread...i got his new cd Encore its awsome im sure guys have at least heard some of his old songs...or the very popular "just lose it" :wmage:

[Lost in Time]

No... I hate rappers, especially Eminem. It brings a bad reputation to humans. I just don't like him...

'Just lose it' is catchy though.

[Vicious]

I like a few of his songs. I find 'Till I Collapse to be pretty damn motivational.

[adamark]

many of his songs are really catchy and nice to listen to.
overall though I think he is a pretty negative artist and doesn't have
anything very positive to say, and so he isn't too useful to me.

[Lost in Time]

I remember someone Quoting this from Eminem. I shall quote it again.

I got a positive message in my raps. And that message is fuck you.

Note that wasn't word for word, but you know what he means. And of course, I compleatly disagree with him.

[The Mirror Emperor]

Yeah, I've heard of Eminem. He isn't too bad, it's just that when the radio keeps playing his songs over and over again it gets annoying. I only have The Eminem Show of his CDs...bleh. "Just Lose It" is cool.

[BlackMageGirl!]

Eh, I don't listen to him all that much. The only song of his that I like is '8 mile'.

[adamark]

His videos are hilarious and very creative. His Just Lose It video was so funny, I watched it like 30 times (downloaded).

[Funka Genocide]

I'm a big fan of eminem, despite his outwardly negative demeanor, he still finds a way to be inspirational. His song "lose yourself" illustrates that point perfectly. He is a very talented man who just happens to be an odd color for his profession, and thats the reason I think many people find him to be distasteful.

I used to be a big fan of hip hop (back in the heyday of bad boy entertainment, when B.I.G. was still around) and I am happy that some artists still have the ability to come up with great lyrics.

news flash people, beats aren't all their is to a song, and the nest time I hear "till the sweat drips from my balls" I'm going to start doing drivebys

with bibles!

[shiney]

Here i thought people found him distasteful because all he usually does is spout off ignorance. I find myself not caring what the color of his skin is. :B

That being said he does certainly have some inspirational (songs? tracks?) raps. It'd be neat if he would do that sort more often, and the I hate fags/the president/black people/overreactive parents/people who hate me bit less often.

[Funka Genocide]

Here i thought people found him distasteful because all he usually does is spout off ignorance. I find myself not caring what the color of his skin is. :B

sorry for my generalization there shiney, I was just commenting ont he fact that all most high grossing rap artist do is spout out profanity and ignorance, so why should eminem be held to a different standard?

but somewhere, behind all the bitch this and smoke that, I think hip hop has a soul. At least it used to.

[WolvesDryYourTears]

im glad there are lots of EminEm fans out there i myself have been a fan since i was six...im thirteen now and still a fan...the whole hating all that junk...he is just playing but, most can't take crude jokes...which is really sad because, most of the funny things in life are crude...but it does feel weird listening to his songs to Haiylee because my name is Haley too...even though i know the damn song isn't about me...not my point...just weird thats all

[Krylo]

Allow me to present a few examples. Alright, this is crude humor:
Jelehz: This sounds crazy, I know...but how does one become a moderator on the boards?
Krylo Killian: You have to give Shiney your anal virginity.
Jelehz: LOL
Krylo Killian: No. I'm serious. He's huge too. My ass still hurts.
Jelehz: x_x
Krylo Killian: Yah.
Krylo Killian: Let's not talk about that anymore.
This is hatred, non-sensical, insulting, and bearing little resembling talent:
Hey mister, would ya care to bare witness to
The ass-whippin' I'm about to administer
To this ass-kissin' little vaginal blister
Stanabis, little Marshall Mathers' sister
And in this corner, we have the mister
Not havin' it, it's the mad sinister
Dr. Evil with his bag of tricks for
this little antagonist faggot dick-suckin'
Ex-LL Cool J fan from Windsor
I'm 'bout to murder little Kenny fag Keniff-sta
You bastard I ain't wanna have to diss ya
Canabis, where the fuck you at? I miss ya!

Again, Crude humor:
A couple decided to go out and left their daughter with a man to babysit her. Well, hours pass, and they have a wonderful time, but when they come home there's an ambulance and the babysitter is laying within it with a bloody cloth over his crotch.
Well the parents go to the little girl and ask her what happened, and she says, "Well, he asked me if I wanted to play with his magic puppet, and I said ok, so he pulled down his pants and showed me his magic puppet. He said that if I rubbed it, it would get hard. So I rubbed it and it got hard. Then he said if I poked it, it would bob up and down, so I poked it and it bobbed up and down. Then he said that if I sucked on it I could get a drink, so I sucked on it and the little bastard spit in my face so I bit its goddamn head off.

Do we see the difference yet?

Now, that's not to say that Eminem doesn't have some songs that ARE funny, and ARE crude humor, but he also has a lot that are nothing but exactly what I put above.

And in response to: I was just commenting ont he fact that all most high grossing rap artist do is spout out profanity and ignorance, so why should eminem be held to a different standard?Exactly why I don't listen to rap. It's the musical equivalent of Tom Green. Which is to say it's just cheap shock entertainment most of the time.

1 line edited to make it sound slightly less harsh.

[Funka Genocide]

sorry about that whole mod initiation thing Krylo, but these things get easier over time...

but yeah, you're right about the majority of rap being total garbage, but I find the same lack of depth and meaning in bubble gum pop, or a lot of heavy metal. A vast majority of popular music can be summed up as "pretty sounds for certain types of people" but just because a genre has a lot of refuse floating throughout it, and just because an artist makes a few shitty songs, doesn't mean they still can't produce something worth listening to.

and the quote from eminem is one of sarcastic humor and sniping aimed towards canibus: the hip hop equivalent of shoving eachother in the playground while everyone around you yells out fight.

I don't take his anti homosexual sentiments to heart either, if I did that I'd have to do it for everyone, and then I'd probably hate my parents, so do what you want with that one...

in summation, I like eminems music. :)

[WolvesDryYourTears]

that story about the girl and that dudes dick...i have heard it before but it was a little different and it was called mr.squirmy

[Krylo]

in summation, I like eminems music.Which is fine by me. I was merely irritated about how WolvesDryYourTears was insinuating that people who didn't like Eminem felt that way because they didn't understand crude humor. I'm more crude than he is. That doesn't make a lot of what he does funny, and, quite frankly, there is such a thing as decency.

Some of his lyrics are funny, I'll admit... but quite a few of them aren't.

And, there are two reasons I like music, either:

a) It's funny. Very very funny. Like, Robitussin or The Super Mario Rap.
or
b) It presents an emotion, and presents it well. Preferably an emotion that doesn't make me sick to my stomach.

[Funka Genocide]

that makes perfect sense. I think most people fall along the same lines. After all, the point of music is to entertain, right?

And yes, you are definitely one crude dude, I haven't heard that joke since like, fifth grade.

peace out.

[WolvesDryYourTears]

i didn't say that all the raps he does is crude im just saying most of it is funny...i like that song mocking bird

[FoamyFrickinKrzE]

damn i didn't know that my thread would lead all the way to the old mr.squirmey joke...lol

[Funka Genocide]

damn i didn't know that my thread would lead all the way to the old mr.squirmey joke...lol


too much funny! it hurts!

sorry for my spamminess, and yet I shall not redeem myself with any substance. Funny that eh?

edit: boo Rai! (in a scary, jump out from behind a book case sort of way, not in the adverse reaction to anything kind of way.)

[FoamyFrickinKrzE]

i didn't get it?

[RaiRai]

You probably won't. Ever.

That said, I don't like Eminem. His lyrics have just been the same stuff/scenarios churned out over and over again. Yes, his past may have sucked. Yes, we know about it. No, we don't need to hear about it again.

He was good back in the day, but now, unless he comes up with something more creative than the majority of the songs on his albums, I don't think I'll be wanting to listen to much more.

(Unless I'm forced to, the guys in the stockroom I SWEAR have never heard of any other artists...)

[Funka Genocide]

you have a point there Rai, but I also like Everclear, and their even more repetitious with their themes than good ol Slim Shady.

all in all, I guess I don't really have an intellectual way to defend my taste, that kind of sucks now that I think about it.

:(

[RaiRai]

I like Everclear, but then again, their music actually changes even though their theme doesn't. Rap is rap, no matter which way you look at it.

[Funka Genocide]

I think that opinion might be attributed to mental self-conditioning. If you just listen to it without any pretenses, there is actually some worth in it. Its just that the majority of it is so overviolent and overhyped, millionaires off a drum beat.

Kanye West is great, so are the Black Eyed peas, and for someold school try listening to Del tha Funky Homosapien. They may be somewhat below the radar, but good rap artists do exist Rai.

[RaiRai]

I never said they didn't, but my point still stands. Rap is rap - it just depends on what you rap about to see whether it is above standard or not.

[shiney]

She's right, yknow. And unfortunately with the way the rap industry glorifies violence, lawlessness, etc, it will be a long time before I will consider it worthwhile. Any giant movement that consists of people trying to be as gangsta as they can, showing off how stupid rich they are while carrying guns or pretending to, acting like complete idiots and children in public, is a movement that has and will gain no credibility except amongst the type of people who lap that shit up.

The few artists who dare to break the mold and be inspirational or at the very least non-confrontational never seem to get above that radar. It's like the industry only wants this criminalistic image. There are a few, yes, but it's like a needle in a haystack trying to find them.

[Funka Genocide]

she is right, and it hurts...

I'll still be holding out hope though, and I'll still look for good music amidst the teeming myriad of absolute crap.

[Gorefiend]

Eminem is fine. I'll leave him alone, and watch his funny videos every now and then. It would be more often, but I don't know where to download them, and local MTV is too stuck on Punk Rock to ever really show rap. (another reason to hate: Ecuador)

I honestly like his music. And, his videos have made me laugh quite a bit. I think even the Eminem haters would agree that some of the videos (Will the Real Slim Shady Please Stand Up?, Without Me, Just Lose It...) are funny.

As far as rap in general, there are some inspirational rap songs. About death. Mourning, really. And, a song called "Lady Heroin" against drugs. Then again, I had to dig pretty far back for them, so I guess you are more correct every day. The image promoted by rappers is honestly, not fun. And, I wish rappers would remember that while they aren't goin' up in da hood, poppin' caps in yo' ass and what not, they DO influence their listeners.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Eh, I don't listen to him all that much. The only song of his that I like is '8 mile'.

I listen to '8 mile' whenever I'm feeling either really pissed or really depressed.

[shiney]

Called 'Lose Yourself' and it's one of the few of his that I really do enjoy.

[BlackMagicAI]

did you mean "lose yourself" "sing for the moment" what? because, there is no song called 8 mile just a movie

[Silly Kitty]

Hes a good rapper. I listen to some of his songs. Hes not bad.

[Gorefiend]

It’s ok, it’s ok, let the world get back this day

Verse 1

Sometimes I just feel like, quittin,
I still mic, why do I put up this fight, why do I still write,
Sometimes it’s hard enough just dealing with real life,
Sometimes I just wanna jump on stage and just kill mic’s,
And show these people what my level of skill’s like,
But I’m still white, sometimes I just hate life,
Something ain’t right, hit the brake lights,
Case of this stage fright, draw on the plane flight

Call but I might fall,
It ain’t my fault breaking my balls’
My insides crawl and I clam up,
I just slam shut, I just can’t do it,
My whole man-hoods, just been stripped,
I’ve just been picked so I must then get on the bus then split,
Man fuck this shit, yo I’m going the fuck home,
World on my shoulders as I run back to this ain’t my room...

Chorus
I’m a man, I’m a make a new plan,
Time for me to just stand up and travel new land,
Time to leave and just take matters into my own hands,
Once I’m over these track man I’m a never look back,

And I’m gone and I know right where I’m goin,
Sorry momma I’m grown, I must travel alone,
Aint no followin footsteps, I’m making my own,
Only way that I know how to escape from, this ain’t my room...

Verse 2

Walking these train tracks trying to regain back,
The spirit I have before I go back to the same crap,
To the same plant, in the same pants,
Trying to chase rap, gotta move a.s.a.p,
Gotta get a new plan, momma’s gotta new man,
Poor little baby sister, she don’t understand,
Sits in front of the tv, buries her nose in the pad,
And just colours until the crayon get dull in her hand,
While she just colours her big brother and mother and dad
There’s no telling what really goes on in her little head,
Wish that I could be the daddy that neither one of us had,
But I keep running from something I never wanted so bad,
Sometimes I get upset, cause I ain’t blew up yet,
Its like I grew up but I ain’t grown up to nuts yet,
Dont got a rep, my step, don’t got enough pep,
The pressures too much man I’m just trying to do what’s best,
And I try, sit alone and I cry, yo I wont tell her why,
Not a moment goes by that I look right at the sky,
Please I’m begging you god,
Please don’t let me be fishin holding no regular job,
Yo I hope you will be getting home, whereva you are,
Yo I’m telling you dog, I’m bailing this trailer tomorrow,
Tell my mother I love her, kiss baby sister goodbye,
Say whenever you need me baby, I’m never to far,
But yo I gotta get out there, the only way I know,
And I’m a be back for you the second that I blow,
On everything I own, I’ll make it on my own,
Off to work I go, back to this ain’t my room...

Chorus

Verse 3

You got to live it to feel it, you didn’t then you wouldn’t get it,
Well see what the big deal is, why wasn’t and still is,
To be walking this borderline of detroit city limits,
Its different in it, a certain significant of certificate
Of authenticity, you’d never even see but it’s everything to me,
Its my credibilaty, you never seen, heard, smelt a meda ta mc,
Who’s incredable on the same pedestal as me,
The chaque still unsigned, having a rough time,
Sit on the porche with all my friends and kick dumb rhymes,
Go to work and serve mc’s in the lunch line,
But when it comes crunch time, where do my punch lines go,
Who must I show, to bust my flow, where must I go, who must I know,
Or am I just another grabbing the bucket
Cause I ain’t having no luck with this little rappers so fuck it
Maybe I need a new outlet, I’m starting to doubt shit,
I’m feeling a little skeptical who I hang out with,
I look like a bum, yo my clothes ain’t about shit,
At the salvation army trying to salvage an outfit,
And it’s cold trying to travel this road,
Plus I feel like I’m always stuck in this batteling mode,
My defenses are so up one thing don’t want it pity from no one,
This city is no fun, there is no sun and it’s so dark,
Sometimes I just feel like, I’m being pulled a-part,
From each one of my limbs, by each one of my friends,
Its enough to make me just wanna jump out of my skin,
Sometimes I just feel like a robot, sometimes I just know not,
What I’m doing I just blow my head as a stove top,
I just explode, the kettle gets so hot,
Sometimes my mouth just overloads the acid, I don’t got,
But I learned it’s time for me to u-turn,
Yo it only takes one time for me to get burned,
Aint no callin her next time I need a new girl,
I can no longer play stupid or be immature,
I got every ingredient all I need is the courage,
Like I already got the beat all I need is the word,
Uh uh got the urge, suddenly it’s a surge,
Suddenly a new burst of energy hits the curve,
Time to show these free world leaders, three and the third,
I am no longer scared now, I’m free as a bird,
Then I turn and cross over the medium curve,
Hit the burbs and run and see it’s a blur, this ain’t my room...

Chorus

That's 8-mile, the song, according to the lyrics site I got it from.


Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted…one moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip?

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There’s vomit on his sweater already, mom’s spaghetti
He’s nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgettin
What he wrote down, the whole crowd goes so loud
He opens his mouth, but the words won’t come out
He’s chokin, how everybody’s jokin now
The clock’s run out, time’s up over, bloah!
Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity
Oh, there goes rabbit, he choked
He’s so mad, but he won’t give up that
Is he? no
He won’t have it , he knows his whole back city’s ropes
It don’t matter, he’s dope
He knows that, but he’s broke
He’s so stacked that he knows
When he goes back to his mobile home, that’s when it’s
Back to the lab again yo
This whole rap shit
He better go capture this moment and hope it don’t pass him

Hook:

You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo

The soul’s escaping, through this hole that it’s gaping
This world is mine for the taking
Make me king, as we move toward a, new world order
A normal life is borin, but superstardom’s close to post mortar
It only grows harder, only grows hotter
He blows us all over these hoes is all on him
Coast to coast shows, he’s know as the globetrotter
Lonely roads, God only knows
He’s grown farther from home, he’s no father
He goes home and barely knows his own daughter
But hold your nose cuz here goes the cold water
His bosses don’t want him no mo, he’s cold product
They moved on to the next schmoe who flows
He nose dove and sold nada
So the soap opera is told and unfolds
I suppose it’s old potna, but the beat goes on
Da da dum da dum da da

Hook

No more games, i’ma change what you call rage
Tear this mothafuckin roof off like 2 dogs caged
I was playin in the beginnin, the mood all changed
I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage
But I kept rhymin and stepwritin the next cypher
Best believe somebody’s payin the pied piper
All the pain inside amplified by the fact
That I can’t get by with my 9 to 5
And I can’t provide the right type of life for my family
Cuz man, these goddam food stamps don’t buy diapers
And it’s no movie, there’s no mekhi phifer, this is my life
And these times are so hard and it’s getting even harder
Tryin to feed and water my seed, plus
See dishonor caught up bein a father and a prima donna
Baby mama drama’s screamin on and
Too much for me to wanna
Stay in one spot, another jam or not
Has gotten me to the point, I’m like a snail
I’ve got to formulate a plot fore I end up in jail or shot
Success is my only mothafuckin option, failure’s not
Mom, I love you, but this trail has got to go
I cannot grow old in salem’s lot
So here I go is my shot.
Feet fail me not cuz maybe the only opportunity that I got

Hook

You can do anything you set your mind to, man

That's Lose Yourself.

Hope that this was helpful.

BTW, I like the "Mosh." It was about the elections. Yes, a(nother?) rant about the president. The video is also good.

[Lost in Time]

OK, I admit that, I like some of Eminems music videos. Though I only have seen about two or so of them. I liked the Mosh Video, It set a point and was moving. But I didn't like the song (On of acount I am a Bush supporter.) And some of them can be funny. Like 'Just Lose It'.

[Silly Kitty]

OK, I admit that, I like some of Eminems music videos. Though I only have seen about two or so of them. I liked the Mosh Video, It set a point and was moving. But I didn't like the song (On of acount I am a Bush supporter.) And some of them can be funny. Like 'Just Lose It'.

I agree with everything in there.

Without me is pretty funny too. He does make funny videos. In his more harsh songs he does say things like im just playing(sometimes). I don't really think hes a bad guy.

[adamark]

Rap is rap, no matter which way you look at it.That's not really saying anything significant. It's like saying "Rock is rock, no matter which way you look at it." or "Techno is techno, no matter which way you look at it." Of course it is, that's why it's its own genre.

I think there is a spectrum of emotions and experiences that can be displayed for every genre. But there are also genre-benders. By and large I think most rap is driven to either show a negative image or a glorified one. I, personally, am not too interested in either of those images.

[RaiRai]

Yes, but what it's trying to explain is that with the same old stuff churned out song after song, it's not doing the genre any favors. If you want to break the routine, and make yourself a 'star', you need to do things other people haven't done. Eminem succeeded in that at first, but if he continues down the path he currently is, he'll just be repeating himself and hoping that people buy his same-old records.

[Bob The Mercenary]

did you mean "lose yourself" "sing for the moment" what? because, there is no song called 8 mile just a movie

There is a song by Eminem called '8 mile', but it's not on any of his CDs. It's only found on the 8 mile soundtrack.

[Silly Kitty]

Yes, but what it's trying to explain is that with the same old stuff churned out song after song, it's not doing the genre any favors. If you want to break the routine, and make yourself a 'star', you need to do things other people haven't done. Eminem succeeded in that at first, but if he continues down the path he currently is, he'll just be repeating himself and hoping that people buy his same-old records.

I completly agree. It seems all Eminem does these days are tell about his hard past and make fun of others. I would like to see something new. Maybe thats just the way he writes. Over a period of time though it does get old.

[Mike McC]

I like Eminem's first two CDs, but yeah, I'd have to say that all he's really doing now is rehashing his older stuff.

One of my personal favorites of his songs is "Stan" off of the Marshal Mathers LP.

[FoamyFrickinKrzE]

that is a great song "stan" but in the video you can tell which one is fake and which is not

[RaiRai]

That's the whole point. It's about on obsessed fan who wants to be LIKE Eminem.

And to whomever gave me rep (and the comment provided) from this thread - you rock.

[WanderingActor]

I like eminem. He reminds me that white people aren't excluded from the hip hop scene (unlike vanilla ice *shudder*). I like just lose it, but my favorite has to be the Original that I heard in 6th grade, My name is. That's classic shit there.

[Dj_StarChild]

No.

[Illuminatus]

No, I don't like Eminem. He has no talent, which is a major point with me in musicians I listen to. He's also extremely offensive, and just for the sake of being offensive. That's just stupid.

He's also as mainstream as mainstream as can be. Believe it or not, if it gets played a lot on the radio or MTV, it's probably a no-talent rap/hip-hop musician, and I don't listen to them as a matter of principle.

That being said, some of his songs are catchy and funny, but lots of bad things are catchy.

[Gorefiend]

So, a guy who has been deemed fit by those who control the public radiowaves to attarct huge amounts of listeners in order to reap huge profits in not talented? Wierd. Explain this line of reasoning to me. I am a bit intrigued.

Also, the offensive lyrics thing, it's kinda like Duke Nukem. Duke Nukem is a violent game, in a violent genre. The developers knew that, and, instead of trying to tone it down, they raised it up! Eminem knows that about 90% of rap is offensive to someone, so he just lets it rip. And, at times, it can get funny (Just Lose It, Without Me.) and at times, inspirational (Stan, Lose Yourself, Cleanin' Out My Closet, 8-Mile (see lyrics in my above post to see if you recognize it. It's from that scene on the bus from the movie, when he tries to write a song.))

And, Dj_StarChild, remember, no one word posts. Elaborate a bit or something.

[Illuminatus]

So, a guy who has been deemed fit by those who control the public radiowaves to attarct huge amounts of listeners in order to reap huge profits in not talented? Wierd. Explain this line of reasoning to me. I am a bit intrigued.

Hell, I don't make the rules, I just know that I can wave my arms around and talk every bit as musically as Eminem can if I want.