#504: "Why would it explode?" [Archive] - The Warring States of NPF

Warlock

01-18-2005, 12:54 AM

Great comic, Brian! Always a hoot when :bmage: is saving the day.

Where did he get that teleport spell? I remember him bitching that he DIDN'T have it before.

Good plug on the ventlatied boat again...

Well, they have been to a town since Gurgu, so it is entirely possible that he picked one up then.

pendejochy

01-18-2005, 12:55 AM

Well, according to Brian's post, I'm dead on the inside.
I am the only one who notices that Bikke isn't wearing a disguise.
That last panel was very funny! I also liked how Bikke refered to Vilbert as a "larp-loving-fruitcake."

DragonLord

01-18-2005, 12:56 AM

The Fifth Power what makes you think black mage didn't just jump off the ship?

Klyco

01-18-2005, 12:58 AM

Technically, none of them were wearing a disguise. Apparently, wearing a hat is not a full disquies.

The Fifth Power what makes you think black mage didn't just jump off the ship?

Because its too far to jump.

Sesshoumaru

01-18-2005, 01:03 AM

That and he said teleporty stabbing or something like that. I know the word teleporty (or a very similar word) was included in what he said. PLus the bamf is a giveaway.

Kindred

01-18-2005, 01:04 AM

Because its too far to jump.

...and the fact that BM said he needed some of that hot teleport action.

Rayinne

01-18-2005, 01:06 AM

Hmm...a teleport spell that goes BAMF...I think I've seen that somewhere before...

And now we know BM can use Meteo. [fearful shiver]

phil_

01-18-2005, 01:15 AM

BM is out of spells. This will be significant...

or not.

DragonLord

01-18-2005, 01:17 AM

He could have swam.
Well... if they were in the tropics.

The Fifth Power

01-18-2005, 01:18 AM

Funny, we never saw him use those spells before.

And he wasted his hadoken already? sad...

Anotherperson

01-18-2005, 01:27 AM

Vilbert's plan failed, now Bikke's plan failed, Garland probably doesn't even have a plan, which leaves drizzl. I wonder what he has planned...

Mike McC

01-18-2005, 01:43 AM

I find it funny that Bikke's plan would have ended up killing the Dark Warriors (except Vilbert) just as much as it would have killed the Light Warriors. At least Vilbert's plan would have worked without killing everyone (assuming all of the food on the ship wasn't poisoned, which it's entirely possible that all of it was). Though, now that I think about it, Garland could be 'saved' by a land shark. Again.

Also, Exploding Tuesday should so be a real holiday.

Red Apprentice

01-18-2005, 01:48 AM

As usual, I'm going to nit-pick on the thread title: "Must be exploding Tuesday" would have been better, IMO. ;)

Funny, we never saw him use those spells before.

It was nice to see him use some spells besides the Hadoken. This strip is a lot more wacky and "random" (oh, how I have come to hate that word) than a lot of the ones we've seen recently - Brian must have been in a silly mood when he wrote it. A very good strip overall, and I love the frame of BM frantically chipping away at the iceberg with his knife - but I always find the overworld sprites inherently hilarious for some reason. (That is an overworld sprite, isn't it?) The BAMF was also a nice touch, though I suppose I would like to know where BM gained the teleport spell.

Kurosen

01-18-2005, 01:59 AM

The characters always have (or don't have) exactly what they need for the purposes of whatever joke is currently happening.

Trixbeat

01-18-2005, 03:46 AM

Bikke's plan: get everyone killed.
Now: Nobody gets hurt. Except BM.

The iceberg explodes because mother nature doesn't like BM. Either that or BM's knife is enchanted with a magic spell.

Meister

01-18-2005, 04:24 AM

Great comic, outstanding timing! But... if I were to say it would have been a little bit better without BM's announcement he was going to teleport, would I get beaten?

dac1990

01-18-2005, 05:45 AM

Methinks this is all part of the Sarda-promised power gain. BM has learned teleport, meteo, and bolt-3. You may remember him using bolt-2 on the old folk's home. Suckers! Anyway, each character is steadily gaining in power. Fighter finally has his sword-chucks and is using big words now, and RM has apparantly(sp?) learned more about his world.

Skyshot

01-18-2005, 07:20 AM

Well, this is unexpected.

Black Mage versus Bikke (which I must learn the pronunciation of someday).

Anyone wanna bet the remaining LWs are similarly paired up with the remaining DWs?

Sliths

01-18-2005, 07:21 AM

I'm guessing that the self-exploding one would be the entrance to the next dungeon.

Squishy Cheeks

01-18-2005, 07:32 AM

So BM still doesn't know Ultima

Loyal

01-18-2005, 07:39 AM

:bmage: Almost got it... There!
KASPLODE!!
:bmage: Why would it explode?

XD

Sega Kid

01-18-2005, 07:41 AM

Meteo is basically flaming ultima balls raining from the sky, weakened ultima balls but balls all the same, Have I said balls too much?

By the by, exploding stuff is cool, and when they blow up for no reason, BM on the iceberg, it's freaken awesome!

slightly aboveaverage man

01-18-2005, 08:44 AM

I have to say, this indeed was one of the funniest comics I've seen in a while, Kudos to you, Brian!

But, if Bikke is at the helm, chances are the ship will just sink of gross incompetance anyway.

_V_

01-18-2005, 09:45 AM

BM is out of spells. This will be significant...

or not.
He's out of big spells. Not that that makes any difference, since :bmage: doesn't normally use low level spells.

Wetflame

01-18-2005, 10:29 AM

I presumed he used a Teleport Knife. You can get hose, yanno.

UserGoogol

01-18-2005, 10:50 AM

Dark Mage's last line reminds me of Invader Zim, although I can't remember the exact context. I'm sure it's a coincidence though, because although most of Brian's comedy sounds like he ripped it off something else, he's completely original in every way.

kam_islash

01-18-2005, 11:09 AM

Must be Shetah'lin's dagger of Explosion.

Funny comic. This one is right up there with "sword Chucks yo"

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Xellos

01-18-2005, 11:59 AM

Wow. Look at out little Black mage go. New spells are being introduced and, ah!, such heroism!

Warlock

01-18-2005, 12:30 PM

Wow. Look at out little Black mage go. New spells are being introduced and, ah!, such heroism!

There is a difference between heroism and saving your ass.

Nobody123

01-18-2005, 12:36 PM

Great comic but I was a little surprised about how fast Black Mage used a Hadoken.
One would think that he would try to avoid casting that spell after telling White Mage about it.

master of sword chucks

01-18-2005, 12:49 PM

:bmage: Never learns. (space) Doesn't he know that everything and anything will go wrong if he is doing it? I don't think Bikke realised how stupid that idea was. (space) I preferred Vilbert's.

Spelling and punctuation (mostly) corrected by shiney! Pay attention in class kids, it makes you look smarter!

Quirriff`

01-18-2005, 12:56 PM

I find it funny that Bikke's plan would have ended up killing the Dark Warriors (except Vilbert) just as much as it would have killed the Light Warriors.

Vampire + Moving Water = Kaboom

JavisKefka

01-18-2005, 01:09 PM

This episode struck me as rather dull and unamusing.

shiney

01-18-2005, 01:12 PM

(No flames please, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.)

Squishy Cheeks

01-18-2005, 01:55 PM

Dracula crossed the north sea to england so I don't think vampyres have a problem crossing moving water.

Kaze Youkai

01-18-2005, 01:57 PM

Psi_Zeta

01-18-2005, 02:21 PM

Dracula crossed the north sea to england so I don't think vampyres have a problem crossing moving water.

If you know your Vampire Mythos you would know that Dracula was in his coffin and surrounded by the dirt from his grave. It's the only way that Vampires can cross running water. So it is possible that Vilbert is in his coffin. But then again... maybe Brian just doesn't care about mythos...

Decoy

01-18-2005, 02:21 PM

I never knew until this point that two pictures could be used again and again and still produce such humor.

Cool sound effect word styles as well.

kev51pike

01-18-2005, 02:28 PM

Great comic. It is a wonder how he got those new spells, but people who ask questions are (probably) dead on the inside.

Red Apprentice

01-18-2005, 02:50 PM

Black Mage versus Bikke (which I must learn the pronunciation of someday).

I used to think it was pronounced "Bee-kay," but I think in the Christmas/New Year's animation, they said "Bike" (like a bicycle). :eek: I still like Bee-Kay better.

Am I the only one who's considered the possibility that the iceberg exploded because Bikke is correct and it really is Exploding Tuesday? :confused:

Loyal

01-18-2005, 03:33 PM

I always pronounced "Bikke" as either "Bicky" or "Beak". Those seemed the most likely out of the English language's pronunciation rules.

Vivli

01-18-2005, 03:51 PM

If you know your Vampire Mythos you would know that Dracula was in his coffin and surrounded by the dirt from his grave. It's the only way that Vampires can cross running water. So it is possible that Vilbert is in his coffin. But then again... maybe Brian just doesn't care about mythos...

A problem with that is that Dracula emerged from his coffin to kill all on board. Vampire mythos seems a bit strange when it comes to running water, Dracula could only cross the Thames when it was at it's lowest point for example, so I have no idea how it works for the sea. Dracula needed the coffins and dirt to rest, as it's the only way he can sleep. Mind you, Dracula wasn't killed by sunlight either, which seems to be the given events for vampires in modern day myth.

That said, it's a comedy about incompitant heroes, not a gothic horror about vampires. I'm sure Brian uses whatever rules lend to the comedy. As he said earlier, they have whatever powers are needed for a joke. Dracula is just a book I've actually read so I thought I'd point that out (no matter how incorrect I may be).

And I also found this comic strangely amusing. I don't know if it was just mutiple iceberg's blowing up or Bikke's (I pronounce it Bike) to crash into them anyway. Either way, it was very funny.

henke37

01-18-2005, 03:56 PM

The name is imps. But as Dr F Impsownsit says:
-There is no thing called forest imps.

Warlock

01-18-2005, 04:34 PM

If you know your Vampire Mythos you would know that Dracula was in his coffin and surrounded by the dirt from his grave. It's the only way that Vampires can cross running water. So it is possible that Vilbert is in his coffin. But then again... maybe Brian just doesn't care about mythos...

Geez. There is no one list that says 'This is what a vampire is, and all the things he can or can't do. This list may never be changed ever in the history of the world'. Every game company, writer, and cartoonist has their own idea of what a vampire is, and what a vampire can and can't do. Marvel vampires are almost nothing like D&D ones, which I venture to say would be substantially different from White Wolf ones, which are different from the ones in different stories that have been written over the years. Vampires, like all other fantastic creatures, are dependant on the setting, the author's preconceptions, and the kinds of mind altering drugs the author has available. Which means they won't be the same everywhere. Obviously, Vilbert can cross water, and it pretty much looked like daylight when they were at his house, so I'd say that his weaknesses are whatever Brian wants them to be, and nothing more.

Evilhasreturned

01-18-2005, 05:13 PM

The name is imps. But as Dr F Impsownsit says:
-There is no thing called forest imps.

Thats because there isnt honest

crabsoneyes

01-18-2005, 07:36 PM

I pronounce it Bick... slient E and K and all.

And I found this hilarious as well. Random explosion = Muchos buenos

To quote Matt Stone (in an interview about Team America: World Police and Jerry Bruckheimer's influence on the film): "Jerry Bruckheimer would never blow up Lille or Dieppe. I mean, who want's to see Lille get blown up? Jerry Bruckheimer would have to go the whole way and blow up Paris".

Anyone else feel this comic has been in some way influenced by Messers Parker and Stone?

Particleman

01-18-2005, 07:38 PM

This was a good one. Simplistic, but with lots of explosions. I'm kinda surprised that BM didn't just kill Bikke, and worry about the consequences later. Perhaps he's getting smarter after all he's been through. Maybe not, but he's definitely getting more powerful. So far we know he has:

Feather Fall
Teleport
Stone
Bolt 2
Bolt 3
Fire ? (whatever he used repeatedly on the dwarves)
Fire 3
Meteo
Flare
HaDoKen

I feel like I'm missing something, but I'm not sure. We know he didn't have 3-4 of these until recently, so he's definitely acquired signifigant amounts of new magic. Unfortunately, he's out of "doom spells", and we've still got 2 more DW plans to get through. I'm anxious to see what happens next.

He used Fire/Burning Hands to destroy the evidence of his vote-rigging, way the hell back before they had even met King Steve. He also cast some bigass nuke spell to destory a bee (I don't recall exactly when, though). He also has laser eye beams, which he used to annoy someone (Thief, I think) and to destroy Fighter's notes on Sword-chucks shortly after Sarda rewrote a good portion of recent history.

Loyal

01-18-2005, 07:46 PM

Inu-luvr

01-18-2005, 07:49 PM

He used the Eye-Beams to annoy RM, not Thief.

:rmage:: Alright, this time I'm in front, so you can't go and--
:bmage:: *Eye-Beams the town*
:rmage:: Okay, now you're just doing that to annoy me. You don't even have eye beams.

I love those few episodes! they are my favorites!!!!

This episode is hilarious! Why the ice berg exploded is a question the world may never know. :confused:

Evilhasreturned

01-18-2005, 07:49 PM

He used the Eye-Beams to annoy RM, not Thief.

:rmage:: Alright, this time I'm in front, so you can't go and--
:bmage:: *Eye-Beams the town*
:rmage:: Okay, now you're just doing that to annoy me. You don't even have eye beams.

:bmage: yeah its a cool attack and do it all again and again and possibly a 3rd time if i could

Lost in Time

01-18-2005, 07:59 PM

Bikke has been 'Bike' to me, but I'm usually wrong when it comes to pronouniation. And spelling.

But this comic was funny, I never saw the exploding iceburg comming. Or seeing that BM had a Meteor spell.

'Larp-loving-fruitcake' is now officialy in my dictionary.

Woo post 1000

NinjaVanish

01-18-2005, 08:31 PM

Dude this episode was sw33t. I wish my life was more filled with random explosions and flaming magical . I think this is my new favorite.

mammothtank

01-18-2005, 08:37 PM

Four letters accurately describe my reaction to this comic: LMAO!
I also found a new favorite 8-Bit episode.

PhasmaRok

01-18-2005, 09:13 PM

Feather Fall
Teleport
Stone
Bolt 2
Bolt 3
Fire ? (whatever he used repeatedly on the dwarves)
Fire 3
Meteo
Flare
HaDoKen

When did he use teleport?

The Fifth Power

01-18-2005, 09:18 PM

Just now, he said teleport stabby, and that "bamf" really gives it away.

What bugs me is the comic where he moaned about not having a teleport spell.

Arckanghel

01-18-2005, 10:07 PM

3 more hours of Exploding Tuesday. It's always been Beak to me personally and grammar is your friend. Go Shiney.

dantose

01-18-2005, 11:06 PM

by far the best comic in a while. had me laughing out loud.

Zenigata_III

01-18-2005, 11:56 PM

Well, everyone is correct. This is truly a masterpiece.

and about the spells case, I pose a question:
Would Nuke from the original FF1 be considered Flare from FF: DoS?
Cause if they are not considered one and the same, BM has just ONE more spell at his disposal... :D

Nick Watson

01-19-2005, 12:08 AM

If you guys are wondering how Bikke's name is pronounced, go to this link (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=041231) , and listen closly to the very beginning.

Bikke will say "'Ello there, kiddies. captain Bikke is going to tell you a little Chistmas tale, yar..."

You hear him pronounce Bikke. (pronounced like 'bike')

Kurosen

01-19-2005, 01:21 AM

I personally prefer "Bikke" that rhymes with "icky."

JoeCarnage

01-19-2005, 01:26 AM

While the exploding iceberg was a stroke of genius, the true beauty of the comic was Bikke casually exclaiming "Yar, must be exploding Tuesday".

Lumpy

01-19-2005, 02:19 AM

Am I the only one who's considered the possibility that the iceberg exploded because Bikke is correct and it really is Exploding Tuesday? :confused:

This has crossed my mind as well. If this is true, it means that :bmage: just wasted all his big spells for nothing. :D

_V_

01-19-2005, 05:32 AM

What bugs me is the comic where he moaned about not having a teleport spell.
Maybe :bmage: forgot he doesn't have teleport.

pggmilltn

01-19-2005, 06:20 AM

Just now, he said teleport stabby, and that "bamf" really gives it away.

What bugs me is the comic where he moaned about not having a teleport spell.

Easy. He did have a teleport spell, but he didnt have a strong enough one to teleport more than him to a given location. He was bemoaning not have a teleport spell that would work on the whole group. That way everyone is correc and everyone is happy :fighter:

Kieru

01-19-2005, 07:18 AM

Maybe he just finally got his kill quota up. You know, cue the happy victory music and a little text bubble tells him he has learned a new spell [Teleport] spin and twirl in your victory dance!

I'll go back to lurking now.

Loyal

01-19-2005, 07:37 AM

Ooh... Infamous-3rd-Admin-y...

>_>

I'll go back to sanity now.

and about the spells case, I pose a question: Would Nuke from the original FF1 be considered Flare from FF: DoS?
Cause if they are not considered one and the same, BM has just ONE more spell at his disposal...

Black Wizards get Flare, but Death Machine (Or as I like to call 'im, the pathetically weakened version of WarMech which should not deserve to exist) still gets Nuke. Sorry.

Slackbot

01-19-2005, 10:43 AM

Comic funny. Make me laugh inside and smile outside.

One thing that struck me was how useful and proactive BM was. The group is endangered, he does something about it as opposed to just being evil-jerkwadish. I guess when the rest of the Usual Gang of Idiots isn't nearby, BM doesn't get distracted by his urge to kill them.

Amazing how Bikke doesn't notice all these spells cast by someone standing just pixels away. I pronounce his name Bee-keh, BTW, because that's how the romanji comes out. (I also pronounce Vivi "vee-vee" and Quina "ku-ee-nah." Yes, I'm aware that that's strange.)

anphorus

01-19-2005, 11:06 AM

(I also pronounce Vivi "vee-vee" and Quina "ku-ee-nah." Yes, I'm aware that that's strange.)
That's a strange pronounciation? Thats how everyone I've ever met has pronounced those. Oh well.

I loved this comic. I always supposed that Flare and Meteo would count as level 9 spells, but I guess this shows us that they're not. I'm guessing level 8. BM's uncharacteristic heroness put a smile on my face and I like the almost exclusive use of the overworld sprites. 17 thumbs up.

Klyco

01-19-2005, 01:49 PM

I personally prefer "Bikke" that rhymes with "icky."

that doesnt really fit him though. It kinda sounds like a name you would give a little girl. I preferre to pronounce it Bike. Its the one that makes the most sense to me.

neyo the king

01-19-2005, 02:11 PM

Bikke just wanted to hit the iceburgs to cause them to explode. I mean, he knew it was Exploding Tuesday (which, from now on, is the second Tuesday January), so he knew he couldn't crash his boat against them...

Either that, or he's stupid...

The Fighter Mage

01-19-2005, 02:33 PM

Bikke? Stupid? Impossible! I loved this comic, exploding tuesday is now my favorite thing ever. The last panel was just bloody hilarious!

Warlock

01-19-2005, 03:06 PM

It is really simple how BM got the teleport spell. Spells are sold in towns. They have been to a town since Gurgu. There was a time in said town when they were all seperated. We know what RM and Fighter were doing, but they didn't say what Thief and BM were doing. It is easily possible that he picked up a teleport spell there.

Amake

01-19-2005, 04:48 PM

Dear God, I literally fell of my chair laughing before I got done reading the comic. A long string of hilarious incidents and lines piled on each other with frightening speed. . . it just made me lose control. Wonder what would happen if he'd cast Ice-3 on an iceberg. :)

And the big finish with the side-line comment. . . very Love Hina, I think, or maybe I've read that too much. Uh, except for the randomly exploding iceberg, which in itself is funny on so many levels. WAS it explosion tuesday? Witness:

http://www.rollinit.com/comics/cat/daily.php?date=050101

I really have to ask, did you read my friend's comic mr Clevinger? ^_^

Oh, and to the scheming, probing, speculating masses I must point out Kurosen's post on the first page. (First page if you use 40 posts per page, anyway.) I felt that the mass of spells BM cast was - in part - a stab at those people who compulsively keep track of the characters's abilities, and the post adds salt to injury: They all know (or don't know) whatever spells suits the joke at the moment. :D

PS: Bik-keh

Captain Switzerland

01-19-2005, 05:16 PM

Why would BM want to teleport everyone across the chasm at gurgu and another thing, when they were in Gurgu, why didn't RM just cast group-teleport like he did when they fought the zombie-orc thing?

Zenigata_III

01-19-2005, 05:24 PM

Oro?

Well, of all the situations, why diddn't BM just stab Bikke?
Seems like the most logical thing to do! :D

And I too wonder what Vilbert has planned...

Kurosen

01-19-2005, 05:33 PM

Judging by what Bikke mentions in his first line of dialogue, it seems the food poisoning plan from the previous episode was probably Vilbert's.

Amake

01-19-2005, 06:16 PM

No answer? Maybe I should ask again: This comic looking familiar? I just found it funny, not going to whine about plagiarizing or anything. ^_^

Kieru

01-19-2005, 06:52 PM

Why would Black Mage simply kill just Bikke when he had such a golden opportunity to unleash the destructive powers that only his short-attention span keep at bay from being uh... unleashed against everyone, everwhere (until he runs out of castings anyway).

Icebergs = more kills yo.

videogamerz2000

01-19-2005, 07:15 PM

Wow. For once, black mage helping the team. In a positive way. That completely blew me away.
And the icebergs thing. I predict global warming.
Guess Kraken gets a bonus or something.

The Fifth Power

01-19-2005, 08:12 PM

Well, BM hasn't had a good track recored with killing people. So far I think his "I stabed/blowd you up/banished you to a place worse then alabama" recored is around ten or so, and all uniportant people too. Imagine what would happen if he tried to Kill a main person?!? Now he has found out he can't kill people <i>outright</i>, and is for more subtle things like putting fighter in the path of fumes, or letting RM stave to death.

Godefridus

01-19-2005, 09:29 PM

Evilhasreturned

01-19-2005, 09:50 PM

Obviously, the last glacier exploded because it is, in fact, Exploding Tuesday. Duh.

And for those complaining that the comic wasn't actually posted ON a Tuesday, well, Exploding Tuesday always falls on January 19th, whether it's Tuesday or not.

arr it be the best day of the year seeing yar opponents ships blow up fer no reason yarr just keep a lifeboat handy in case yar boat goes ka boom too arr

TheCrawlingChaos

01-19-2005, 10:42 PM

And for those complaining that the comic wasn't actually posted ON a Tuesday, well, Exploding Tuesday always falls on January 19th, whether it's Tuesday or not.

What are you talking about?
The comic was posted january 18. And it was a Tuesday.

Yes, BM seems to have more then one trace of personality because sometimes he helps people. It only happens that some people doesnt understand his special brand of help. And they end screaming. Or burning.

Burning Ninja

01-19-2005, 11:01 PM

well this episode is definately some of Brians better thinking skills... well UNthinking skills would be better... I think. Webcomic artists are so hard to follow in creativity and thinking... I think that exploding tuesday was just added there for no apparent reason, not because of the Iceberg randomly exploding. If the Iceberg exploded for a reason, then the comic title is HORRIBLY inacurate because it would be a stupid question. Also justifying the explosion removes from some of the funny-ness.