Tales of Symphonia

[Flare]

One of the best game's I've ever played, but probably the hardest to find MP3s for. A little help? :fighter:

[Loyal]

I'd be happy to.

Or at least, I would if it weren't illegal. ¬_¬

Seriously, providing ROMs and MP3s are illegal, unless the one responsible for the original product has been dead for 50 years.

[Flare]

Guess you're right. BTW is your avatar from Fire Emblem? :fighter:

[Kikuichimonji]

If you're willing to pay, go to namco's site. They probably have a compilation cd on the symphonia website.

[Loyal]

They probably do.

It's a moderate blend-n'-edit of some portrait sprites.

[Varius]

Gamemusic Online: http://www.gamemusic.com

has an online store for purchasing video-game music soundtracks. Of course, you probably already knew that.

But just in case, here's a direct link for the Tales of Symphonia soundtrack: http://www.gamemusic.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/GMOStore.woa/wa/ProductDetail?pid=10918&cid=10320&did=101

$43 U.S. or so; too expensive? Maybe you can convince someone to get it for you as a gift? Other than that, there's not much any of us can do here to help you out with that.

It's something I'd like to get myself, but I'm waiting for a sale.

[BlackMageGirl!]

This is the cheapest one I could find. (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KICA-1337)

The other sites all had MP3's that you could download illegally. -_-

Edit: Gah! Beaten to the punch. Still...mine is cheaper. About $5 cheaper but meh. *shrugs*

[Flare]

Tsank you, BMG! That'll do very well. Tales of Symphonia is awesome, no? :fighter:

[Psrdirector]

yes it is. i beat the game once and am now playing it through again. this time tring to get as much grade as posible so i can play a third time with 10x exp

[Flare]

I beat it around Thanksgiving, then a week later, and then again at Xmas. No, I do not have a life. Unfourtuanatley, I keep messing up in Flanoir, so I get Zelos instead of Kratos. Plus, I have no idea how to get the costumes. Little help? :fighter:

[Psrdirector]

how can you not lose kratos. i didnt think it was possible, since well that is a big part of the story.

next part of your question i dont know what your talking about

[Viktor Von Russia]

how can you not lose kratos. i didnt think it was possible, since well that is a big part of the story.

next part of your question i dont know what your talking about

About Kratos, if your relationship with Zelos is high, you get him in your party for the remainder of the game. If your relationship's not good enough, Kratos joins your party again, and Zelos dies.

And about the costumes, it depends which ones you're talking about.

[Palidin]

To get Kratos...
Reject any one in the Flanor part Then he will come....
Or if Zelos is one of the people that barge in... choose him

[Roland]

Alternate Outfits:

(gotten preferably after Vinheim scene w/ the teleporter to the final
boss)

Lloyd: (Requires you to have paid that one guy enough to restore Luin
to it's former self) Gotten from some pirate guy in Luin (name
forgotten).

Collete: Gotten in Meltokio castle. Go near the two maids in the east
wing to get it.

Genis: Gotten in Meltokio, possibly the slums.

Raine: Gotten in Asgard, at the Asgard Seal.

Kratos: Starts with it when you get him back near the end of the game. This only happens if you choose him at the Flanoir scene, or reject everyone else.

Zelos: Gotten outside Zelos's mansion, in Meltokio.

Regal: Gotten in Meltokio, near the exit of the upper class
area/church/castle.

Presea: Gotten in Altamira.

Sheena: Gotten in Mizuho.

Formal Outfits:

Sidequest started by entering a certain area of Meltokio, possibly
Zelos's Mansion. You can only get 4 per game, and one is always Lloyd.
You must have Zelos to do this.

Beach Outfits:

Gotten in Altamira. The outfits are given to Lloyd, a party member of
your choice, and then the two people with the highest relationship with Lloyd (not counting the person you chose). Note that Kratos has no beach outfit.

... I had to e-mail that to myself, because I ran out of time in class...

[Flare]

Tsank you Roland. :fighter:

BTW: Did you guys know they restricted registering? :fighter:

[Roland]

Not a problem.


'Tis a shame that my memory of the game is fading, though. I got bored the last time I played... then again, the last time I played, I forgot that I had 1/2 EXP activated, and tried fighting Sword Dancer 2. Only... one damage... per hit... *shudders at the memory of that fight*

[Novasol]

For the restoring Luin part, I highly suggest you look up the amount of gald you need to pay the guy for each step. See, each step requires a specific amount, and if you pay more than that, you basically waste your money... so if you don't know the exact amount to pay him for each step, chances are you'll waste a ton of gald.

I know it's on GameFAQs, I think it's probably in one of the secrets or sidequest FAQs.

[Viktor Von Russia]

For the restoring Luin part, I highly suggest you look up the amount of gald you need to pay the guy for each step. See, each step requires a specific amount, and if you pay more than that, you basically waste your money... so if you don't know the exact amount to pay him for each step, chances are you'll waste a ton of gald.

Yeah, I made that mistake. I paid the entire amount in one payment. When I realized what happened, there was much violence on my controller.

[Flare]

Same here. I went and paid about 152,438,230Gald, and the city never got completed. Much violence was done to my brother, who thought it was funny. :fighter:

[Psrdirector]

i droped a bunch of money there also and acomplished nothing. what is the bloody amounts needed?

[EVILNess]

Here are the prices. In black text for those of you who want to figure out for yourselves.

Payment #01 - $5,000
Payment #02 - $12,000
Payment #03 - $21,500
Payment #04 - $15,000
Payment #05 - $20,000
Payment #06 - $25,000
Payment #07 - $35,000
Payment #08 - $40,000
Payment #09 - $45,000
Payment #10 - $50,000
Payment #11 - $75,000
Payment #12 - $100,000
Payment #13 - $5,000
Payment #14 - $5,000
Payment #15 - $5,000

For best results get one of those statues that doubles the gald you get at the end of a battle and fight that dragon in the gnome mines. Bring Genis and his sister. Have her cast Ray and Genis his most powerful non-fire multi-hit spell. Lloyd should try to keep the draoon away from the casters, but keep in mind that he is resistant to fire and physical attacks. Like 200,000 Gald per fight. I made 10 million gald in 3 hours, but forgot to save and lost it. :(

[Loyal]

IF, however, you're playing the PS2 version, seek a more lucrative monster. The Earth Dragon in that version yeilds only 1000 Gald.

EAT IT, SONY!!

[ArcAngelX]

I got it, but I can't say that I've beaten it yet, one of my friends is borrowing it right now -.- grrrrrr

[Flare]

Gamefaqs also has a listing. Anyway, did anyone go on the side-quest where you're trying to help wake up Sheena's grandfather? :fighter:

[Psrdirector]

ps2 version? wasnt this a game cube only?
eh.

[Flare]

Yeah, they made one for both, but the GCN version is much better. Unlike the GCN, when you play multiplayer, though, you can only have 2 players, so yeah, GCN's better as usual. :fighter:

[Viktor Von Russia]

Gamefaqs also has a listing. Anyway, did anyone go on the side-quest where you're trying to help wake up Sheena's grandfather? :fighter:

Yeah, I did. I don't remember exactly what it entailed, but I remember the end result. And Sheena's spiffy new costume you get for completing it.

[Flare]

Most excellent. Tsank you Viktor Von Russia. :fighter:

[MasterTonberry]

I have beaten Symphonia 4 times at 100%. yes, hmhmhm. Even the secret "devil" weapons whose attack depends on how many monsters you have killed. :cool: And my favorite character is Sheena, (She's cute and powerful!).

[Flare]

Yeah, how do you get those? And who doesn't like Sheena? :fighter:

[Viktor Von Russia]

They're found in dungeons and such, just like regular items. You'd have to look at a guide to get them all, I think. I can't think of all of them off the top of my head. And after you collect them all, you get to fight what is advertised to be the hardest boss in the game. I forget what the pay-off for getting them all is, exactly. I just did it 'cause it sounded hard.

[Flare]

Are they in those weird Bluish-Black chests? If they are, every time I go to open it there's a cutscene, and Genis says not to open it. :fighter:

[Psrdirector]

yeah i could never open the chests. how do you get them opend. so you fight a huge skeleton like in the preopining show thing

[Roland]

To open the Devil Chests:

When you reach the Toize Valley Mine, you'll meet a creature called a "Bacura", which will chase you. To continue on in the game, you need to get a boulder to knock it off a ledge and crush it. After crushing it, go examine the remains to get Colette's Devil's Arm (Evil Eye).

Later on in the game, after rescuing Colette from Rodyle, head to Flanoir. You should see a blue-haired man on the first map. This is Abyssion, and he will give you Lloyd's Devil's Arm (Nebilim), as well as the key to unlock the Devil Chests in the world. He wants you to get all 9 of them.

Devil's Arms not found in chests:

Soul Eater: gotten at the Sideboss fight in the Triet Desert
Genis's Devil's Arm (Devastation?): Gotten in Altamira for 1,000 Gald.
Raine's Devil's Arm (Something with an r): It has to be gotten last, and is gotten from Koton.
Evil Eye: Gotten from the Bacura in the Toize Valley Mine.
Nebilim: Gotten from Abyssion.

DO NOT HIGHLIGHT ANYTHING UNDER THIS IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO SEE THE END SPOILERS.



After getting all 9, go to the Shadow Temple (the one on top of a mountain), and go to the seal. There, you will fight the game's toughest single-boss, none other than Abyssion himself.

whew... hope that helps...

[Viktor Von Russia]

Um, yeah. What Roland said. Does anyone know what level you should be at to at least be able to beat that guy? I'm asking because when I did it, I was (I think) in the early 90's. And I'd like to save a little time from levelling in my next playthrough.

[Flare]

Okay, I think I get it. *Spoiler Alert* Okay, now there's one in the Latheyon Gorge right? And in the garrochia Forest? Also, I thought I fought Abbysion? Guess not. Oh, and how do you get Maxwell? :fighter: I could never figure it out. :fighter:

[Viktor Von Russia]

Alright, to get Maxwell...

Go to the floating city (I think it was called Exire?). At this point, my memory's a little hazy since I left my GC at home. I believe you head towards the right of the screen from the large 3 story building until you get to a small house with two people standing in front of it. Head up the small flight of stairs but don't enter the house. There is a small ledge that heads towards the right and circles around to the back of the house. Follow this narrow path until you can see that it leads to a long bridge. Go along this bridge until you reach the monument. You'll need to equip the items you got from all the other summons as well as the Derris (I think that's the word) Emblem.

Also, I thought I fought Abbysion?

Were you thinking of the giant skeleton with 6 arms?

[Psrdirector]

alright. i never cheacked the remains. i was to anoyend by that blasted monster that was chasing you. wow how hard is this guy, i beat the final boss in the 50's i think.

[Kikuichimonji]

Sword Dancer 3 isn't that hard if you follow these steps: You NEED Raine, hopefully with photon/other powerful light attack. And the combo between Raine and Genis (star thing) that hits for about 75 hits helps a LOT because they're light attacks.

[Betrademos]

If I may enter my two cents?

ToS is a great game. If I have any complaints, its these: Bland graphics (NOT because its cel-shaded, rather it just lacked a certain spark.) and AWEFUL cutscene animation. Everything else is fantastic. The battle system is fast-paced (Any other RPG developer should take a hint) and the story is so bad you cant help but love it. On a scale of 1-10, I'm giving it a 9.1.

If I may enter two more cents, I don't think telling how to beat a side-quest should be blacked out and marked as a spoiler. Its not like they're a part of the plot or anything.

[Roland]

and AWEFUL cutscene animation.

I don't think telling how to beat a side-quest should be blacked out and marked as a spoiler. Its not like they're a part of the plot or anything.

Eh? What cutscene animation? There was none. At the very best, you had 5 CGi scenes, and two anime scenes (not counting the intro). The rest was all real-time.

And yes, sidequests ARE spoilers in and of themselves. They don't have to connect to the main plot, because they have a plot of their own. It's called a sub plot, designed to flesh out characters OTHER than Mr. Protagonist. You'll see plenty of them in a good fantasy novel.

[Betrademos]

Eh? What cutscene animation? There was none. At the very best, you had 5 CGi scenes, and two anime scenes (not counting the intro). The rest was all real-time.
The real-time scenes were what I was talking about. You should no-doubt agree with me that they were pretty aweful. It was like characters couldn't point at something and talk at the same time.

[Psrdirector]

picky picky picky. and side quests are spoilers

[Flare]

Dude you... you... *throws a trout at Betrademos* :fighter:

[Viktor Von Russia]

Dude you... you... *throws a trout at Betrademos* :fighter:

Why the hate? The man's entitled to his opinion. I happen to agree with him about the cutscenes. But I don't think it really takes much away from the game. Then again, I grew up in the NES era, and pretty graphics don't really do much for me.

[Flare]

This is true. The graphics honestly don't matter that much. It's the gameplay (And Sheena) that matter. Otherwise, ph34r t3h phish! :fighter:

[PyrosNine]

hey, it was their first 3d rpg after all. It's basically just a more fun Tales of Destiny or Tales of Phantasia. My own problem with the game is that with the multiplayer my bro would use blackmail to always play as Lloyd and during a battle he'd go off and fight some enemy far away from whatever enemy I was fighting so i couldn't see what the hell I was doing, or if I was even hitting a monster. The story was excellente. I do wonder though if it fits into some sort of plot continuity thing. I do know that most of the things created in the game were already around in Phantasia, but hmm...

[Psrdirector]

ive never played all the other games from the company. all i knew is that when i heard about it in nintendo power. are the rest good?

[Betrademos]

if by 'the company' you mean 'Namco', then either A) Commit suicide or B) Soul Calibur and Pacman, muthafugga!

Or if by 'the company' you mean 'Namco Tales Studio', then ToD, ToD2, and ToPh are fairly hard to find and relativly unknown. (In my experience anyway)

Dude you... you... *throws a trout at Betrademos*
I cought you a delicious bass. [/badjoke] Seriously, though, I LOVED ToS, I jst thought they could've done a better job on the technical side of things.

[Red Mage Black]

huh? How do you play multi? I've never tried it out but I've never heard of it either. Do you just plug a controller in and go to the menu and have somebody set a character as manual? Please tell me... it sounds like fun...i could gather some intelligent ToS players and we could battle some tough monsters I've been having trouble with.

[Kikuichimonji]

Yes, that's exactly how you do it (make sure the character is in the second slot for second controller, etc., but multiplayer is screwed up because of a simple problem- the camera focuses on player one, and noone else can fight well, unless they're genis or (damnit, how do you spell raine?). So basically, it screws up what would be an awesome mode. Even if you set the camera "farther out in the options," it makes almost no difference.

[Psrdirector]

i still enjoyed playing the multiplayer. it had some probloms. but most games do have probloms. i still think its a great game

[Betrademos]

...but multiplayer is screwed up because of a simple problem- the camera focuses on player one, and noone else can fight well...
Unless bad comes to worse, wouldn't all of the players focus on the same enemy as P1 anyway? Thats how I've programmed my NPC's to fight, anyway. Real people should be no different.

On the other hand, another problem that might arise is the lack of characters you'd WANT to be playing as. Lloyd is the best character in the game for actually playing as, with Zelos in close second. All of the other characters take a heafty amount of practice to be any good for playing as. (Ooh, I used the phrase 'Playing as' 3 times in 1 paragraph!) Unless of course one of you friends is a geek and and actually WANTS to play as one of the spellcasters.

[Kikuichimonji]

Or rather, my friend's really lazy. Genis is really easy to use. And not everyone should always attack the same guy - if you do, the others will start getting free hits. And it's REALLY hard to fight off-screen, especially with a melee character such as Sheena or Kratos. btw, was anyone actually able to make Sheena as good as the other characters? Whenever I used her, she just wasn't the same as Kratos or Lloyd. The reason I use those 2 is so that my C-commands can be used for CPU spellcasters - you can effectively control them that way.

[Flare]

Did anyone get the funny weapons after you rebuild Luin? They're are so awesome! :fighter:

[Palidin]

Yeah, how do you get those? And who doesn't like Sheena? :fighter:

Spoilerz!



First . In the Toize Vally mine . that Bucura that you crush in there exsamne it and get to the first of Devil arms ( Colette's )
Then, in Falnoir there should be a guy in the first screen that talks about the devil arms
Thus getting Lloyds devil arm

also forgive my spelling I am in a rush

[Flare]

I got them already, or at least all the ones I could. :fighter:

[Sandrock]

Never be to careful. Also...is Robins voice every ware? The one from Teen Titans? Hes the hero with the red shirt I think also hes in FFX/FFX-2 some ware. GAH! Lest thats what I hear...I should get this game ^_^ *hops to game stop*

Oh...queston dose it play sort of like Star Ocean? To sum it short what kind of "Attack" Method dose it use? FF/BOF and so on...all I need wont bother ya any more. [should ask that in a Star Ocean 3 topic if it plays like SO 2.]

[Betrademos]

After attemting the impossible task of diciphering your language, I have come to the conclusion that you are asking A) if Scott Menville voices Lloyd and B) what the battle system of the game is like. Well... A) No duh and B) Its all real-time, a little bit like Soul Calibur except with occasional breaks in the action to use items or cast spells. In other words, its the first ever non-boring RPG battle system.

[Kikuichimonji]

Side note:Never go directly from playing SCII to Tales of Symphonia, or vice versa. It will screw you up so much. The same goes for SSBM and either of the 2 above.

It's called the Linear Battle System. Basically, you select a 3d enemy with the R button and control stick, and then you are basically in a 2d fighting style with that opponent. Note that different chars are attacking different enemies, so attacking has a very 3d feel while acting 2d. The way you control your character is 2d, the way the game interprets it is 3d

I just wished the different normal attacks you did with your weapons really mattered - IE pushing down + A makes Lloyd thrust, and though he does have a seperate thrust dmg, it's always close to the slashing one. Or if enemies' guards could be broken by hitting them the right way.

[Sandrock]

:bmage: Didn't you know? it was talk like fighter day..but...um...worse? darn...

Wait...so you lock onto a monster...and it turns into a 2D fight zone like SSBM...while the computer is doing the same thing to others? ....wow...very good idea. Now I will save money up and buy it. Sorry and thank you. Oh ya rent 1st

[Red Mage Black]

To correct the what Sandrock said: It's 3-D fighting I can assure you. The battle system is nothing like SSBM due to the fact you have hit points. You have a lot of combination's you can pull off thanks to tecniques you can do. If you truly love real time battle RPG's this is the game for you. The lock on is magnificent making it easy to take out enemies one-by-one.

This game has the best story and the most plot twists you can think of.

[phil_]

Actually, the plot's about as clichéd as they come. If it weren't for the plot twists every five non-battle minutes, then the story would be terrible. Yet somehow, they managed to take a completely unoriginal story and make it exciting. That says a lot for the quality of the game. That and the fact that random battles are fun! There are no "select fight command 'til they die" fights. Even encountering low level monsters is an excuse to use your old techniques so that you can get the higher level techs. Then there are the skits; strange, cheap, but entertaining. All in all, the game's just fun to play. Its biggest flaw is the multiplayer camera (there are two of us! we should both be able to play!), but since most RPGs don't even have multiplayer, it's forgivable.

[Betrademos]

The battle system is nothing like SSBM due to the fact you have hit points.
Au Contrair, its almost EXACTLY like SSBM, except on a semi-2D plane, hit points, and an RPG interface. Its almost exactly like Link10983-Whatever described, in other wprds.

But does it really matter? the fights are fun, original, and addicting. Buy it. Its good.

[PyrosNine]

Well it can't use the stab feature because in this game they went Final fantasy and made it so that the warriors are only swordsmen and can't use other weapons. In tales of phantasia you could use swords, hammers, battle axes, and I think lances, which means a stab or a slash's effectiveness varied on the weapon, A sword having a mostly balanced stab and slash, a hammer having a mighty slash but no stab, and a lance having no slash but a good stab. Since Symphonia doesn't have this, the slash/stab is virtually useless, and doesn't even help you raise your combo.

And about the Evil weapons, got em all. My brother has killed so many with Lloyd's that he's dishing out 2000 every hit. And I'm doing a good amount of damage with krato's alternate but my six strike lowers my attack a good bit too. The evil boss was a piece of cake for me and Morgue (my brother)

[Red Mage Black]

I can admit the last boss was the easiest because it was only one person and once you gang up on the last person in the arena its so much easier. 2000 a hit is just about impossible, maybe in a combo, or if you cheated and used action replay. I was doing over 5000 in a combo before just in random battles, boss battles less then half that. What makes it cliched is the fact that every RPG uses the same guidelines. If you want how most or all RPG's work check out the link in my signature, They are all SO true.

[Flare]

I think Kratos might be the same voice actor for Master Miller and Liquid Snake in MGS (Twin Snake and Original). I think he's also the voice actor for Jack in Robotech: Battlecry. :fighter:

[Kikuichimonji]

2000 a hit is not impossible. The evil weapons do damage = the # of encounters you've fought. So if he played thru twice like I did, it would be easy to have 2000 encounters.

[Roland]

2000 a hit is not impossible. The evil weapons do damage = the # of encounters you've fought. So if he played thru twice like I did, it would be easy to have 2000 encounters.

Technically, it's the number of enemies that person has killed. If you never use Zelos, always use Lloyd, and beat the boss for the Devil Arms, Lloyd's going to be doing around 1,000+ damage per hit with Nebilim, and Zelos will be lucky to do 100+ with Soul Eater or Fafnir.

[mammothtank]

Quick question: What is cooking for? And how do I cook something besides a sandwich?

[Kikuichimonji]

hmm... then I guess the devil's arms aren't as good as I thought they were, since I use multiple chars. But anyway, 2k dmg is believable, especially if you get that 10x exp when you restart. (Side note - save you GRADE - you use it for keeping stuff on your next playthru. I got the one where exp is based on combo hits - play as zelos/kratos and have lloyd repeatedly do sword rain on a boss, then do the genis-raine team attack combo. Possible 150 hits relatively easy, and gets you massive exp.

Cooking heals you in a small way, which is useful for keeping strength up on journeys. You get a chance to cook after every battle (you can cook between battles, too). Find the wonder chef, who disguises himself as random objects in houses, and get a new recipe from him (1 every time you find him)

[PyrosNine]

Technically, it's the number of enemies that person has killed. If you never use Zelos, always use Lloyd, and beat the boss for the Devil Arms, Lloyd's going to be doing around 1,000+ damage per hit with Nebilim, and Zelos will be lucky to do 100+ with Soul Eater or Fafnir.

Damn! Stupid plot twist that makes Zelos and Kratos gone for extended periods! While Morgue's slaughtering the enemy with Lloyd, I've got to fight with the freaking baseball bat! I'd use the excalibur but I like the bat far too much. And I was the one who earned 75% of the money to buy it. And Morgue's such a killhog too.

One problem I"ve seen is that in order for your character to learn upgraded moves is that you have to use the given move repeatedly and successfully. Well, in multiplayer Morgue and I would just plow through the enemies, and morgan got more kills because of his faster character, so my skills and kill count remains low. And don't even ask me about the spell casters. We had to switch the swordsmen out for their stronger spells because they never got the chance to use the basic ones. Also another multiplayer woe is that on the overworld the other character can screw with the first player by rotating the camera while he's walking and toggle the map, and in battle any player can open the menu, stopping the battle and only that player can close it. And team attacks are very difficult if you don't warn the others ahead of time.

Man, this is a long post! But I still liked the game.

Edit: Also about the wonder chef, the object always has something odd about it, usually having something of the chef visable on it, like it's shaped like his hat or something. Also some of the side effects of dishes can be helpful, in dungeon with a bunch of poisionous monsters, every meal can cure the party of it, and some meals can increase strength/defense.

[Viktor Von Russia]

About the whole skills/techs learning thing, I never could learn Hammer Rain with Collette no matter how many times I used Pow Hammer. I think in my current game, the number of times I used it is hovering around (could be above by now) 1000. Anyone have any idea as to why that is? And before anyone suggests it, it's not the Strike/Technical thing. I used it a lot as both Strike and Technical.

A little thing about cooking. If you want your spell-casters to do well in single Coliseum matches, you'll definitely want to get food that refills HP and MP, though HP is probably more important.

On an off-topic note, Morgue is your bro's nickname, right, Pyros? If not, that is a very unfortunate name.

[Kikuichimonji]

...baseball bat? O.o

I could never do the Coliseum with the spellcasters - I can never get time for even a basic spell :(

[Roland]

About the whole skills/techs learning thing, I never could learn Hammer Rain with Collette no matter how many times I used Pow Hammer. I think in my current game, the number of times I used it is hovering around (could be above by now) 1000. Anyone have any idea as to why that is? And before anyone suggests it, it's not the Strike/Technical thing. I used it a lot as both Strike and Technical.


IIRC, you have to use Pow Pow Hammer, not just Pow Hammer.

...

Damn it, I must contribute...

Lloyd's best combos:

1. 2A + 6A + 6A + A + Sword Rain + Tiger Blade + Sword Rain: Alpha, Cancel to Raining Tiger Blade.
For those who didn't understand that, it's easier for me because of the number pad, so here's it with actual buttons presses:
Down A, Toward A x 2, Nuetral A, Sword Rain, Tiger blade, Sword Rain: Alpha, then use Raining Tiger Blade before finishing SR:A.
Required EX skill: Combo + (is that it?)

2. Same as above, but instead of stopping Sword Rain: Alpha for RTB, finish SR:A, and while you're in the air, cancel into Rising Falcon.
Required EX skills: Sky Attack, Combo Plus.

They use a lot of TP, but even with normal weapons, you're doing incredible damage and getting the Team Attack meter up pretty fast.

[Novasol]

...baseball bat? O.o

I could never do the Coliseum with the spellcasters - I can never get time for even a basic spell :(

The Coliseum is pretty easy for the spell casters if you use the spell cancelling trick.

I think this is how it goes... Basically, the idea is to give them the ability that makes them randomly cast a spell instantly (for Raine this is Neutralizer + Spell Save + Happiness, but I forget what it is with Genis). Then, what you do, is repeatedly cast. If the spell doesn't come out immediately, quickly hit the guard button to cancel the animation, and then try again. It shouldn't take more than 5 seconds to cast any spell you want. Using this with Genis, you can pretty much have meteors raining constantly.

[Viktor Von Russia]

IIRC, you have to use Pow Pow Hammer, not just Pow Hammer.

Er, that is, I was trying to get Pow Pow Hammer then. Whichever came after Pow Hammer. It's been awhile, I guess I'm forgetting things.

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Yeah, Lloyd's definitely Robin. Also, is Colette Starfire? :fighter:

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Tales of Symphonia ROCKS! It is the best RPG for the GCN