Hidden Messages in NPF Songs!!

[Thanatos]

I've recently been studying a phenomenon called reverse speech. Ever heard anyone talk about when you play certain songs backwards you can hear subliminal messages. Well there are two ways these occur Back Masking (a seperate track set into the song backwords. These can be found in several Beetles songs) and Reverse Speech (No additional tracks added, yet messages can still be heard backwards. Best example is Stairway to Heaven. When played backwards the first thing you hear is "Plaaaaaaaaayyyy Backwards. Words are Sung.") Reverse speech seems to be a natural phenomenon of the subconcious mind. Whenever something is played backwards, amidst all the gibberish sometimes words can be understood. It is believed that whenever we communicate verbally, our subconcious mind cause the words to be formed in such a way that while conciously we say one thing forward, we say something else backwards.
Well, I started wondering. Is our own CT hiding secret messages in his songs. I know he hasn't done so intentionally because I watched him record a few, and even helped with the to most recent. But would there still be messages there. I annalyzed five of his songs (one of which I assisted on) and this is what I found:

Queen Qeeko Forward (http://www.lulu.com/items/76000/76969/preview/Qeeko.mp3)
Queen Qeeko Backward (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123306/1/preview/QeekoRS.mp3)

To begin with he seems to repeat the line "F**king You" over and over. He then seems to say "Terror struck me." Later on we get a full setence "This sure is hard for me 'cause she's F**king you." and "The girl will not f**k me 'cause she's f**king you."
What does this mean? I have no idea. I'll have to ask CT later but it seems strange.

Shiney Forward (http://www.lulu.com/items/76000/76970/preview/Shiney.mp3)
Shiney Backward (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123307/1/preview/ShineyRS.mp3)

I was only able to make a few phrases out of this one the first that appears is "I hate" which just so happens to fall just before Shiney's name is sung backward. Coincidence? The next is "throw your seat" or "throw your receipt" Then, "The sound of..." and finally "My head hurts."

Slightly AboveAverage Man Forward (http://www.lulu.com/items/76000/76974/preview/Slightly_AboveAverage_Man.mp3)
Slightly AboveAverage Man Backwards (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123308/1/preview/Slightly_AboveAverage_ManRS.mp3)
This whole song he seems to repeat the phrase "I'm still baffled by you, yes" over and over the only change happens near the end when he says, "Yes indeed, I'm still baffled by you, yes." But then again aren't we all?

Thaumaturge Forward (http://www.lulu.com/items/77000/77521/preview/Thaumaturge.mp3)
Thaumaturge Backward (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123309/1/preview/ThaumaturgeRS.mp3)
This one was difficult to annalyze because of the voiceover, but it turned out to be the strangest one so far. I was only able to come up with these to phrases, "F**K your fat boss! Smurf! Satan! And I'll be your fat elf." and "I'll f**K those f**kers you will see!" Very strange indeed. I think he may have been under the influence of Nilk at the time.

Meister Forward (http://www.lulu.com/items/122000/122320/1/preview/Meister.mp3)
Meister backward (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123310/1/preview/MeisterRS.mp3)
Okay this is one I actually helped with, and was astonished to find the Reverse Speech in my harmony vocals as well as CT's. Apparently we kept repeating the phrase "It hurts. Yum!" plus at one point CT sings the line "Show your butt!"

Well that's all I have for now. If anyone hears anymore Reverse Speech please let me know, or if what you make out is different from what I have. Anyway What do ya'll think about all this??

This was done in a humorous light, and nothing said was meant to offend. All Phrases in quotations are merely the authors interpretation of what was heard. For more information on Reverse Speech click here (http://www.reversespeech.com/home.htm)

[Osterbaum]

I KNEW IT!!!

CT is obviosly trying to brainwash us all with his backward messages! OHMYGOD!!!

The "Yum" part in Meister's song would be understandable though, cause his avatar says Yum! I think... Most of the other stuff beats me.

[Melfice]

That's pretty sweet!

Oh, and in Shiney's song I also heard something like this: I'll have sex..., but that could just be me though.

[Kupo-chan]

I could go on about how susceptible the human mind is to the power of suggestion and how if you listen to it before you read what it's supposed to say you won't hear those things.

But because this is supposed to be comical, I'll stick with something along the lines of:
OMGOMG! I knew it! CT is trying to influence our minds with his all-too-great music!

You know, I bet that's why we like them, too. He's obviously brainwashing us. :p

[Deathosaurus Wrecks]

hahaha! thats awsome. how long did it take you to do all this?

[Jack of Spades]

Interesting to say the least...I guess Slightly Above Average Man comes out as I'm still baffled by you in reverse. Yeah I could make out some of those words clearly. I heard "Satan, I'll be your fat elf" and "She's f***ing you"

[Thanatos]

hahaha! thats awsome. how long did it take you to do all this?

Not long actually. I just downloaded the songs and reversed the waveform. I then spent about 10-15 minutes listening to each song backwards. I got a new prgoram later that allows me to go a little more indepth with these things. Apparently what is being said backwards is relevant to what is being said forward. This new program lets me bookmark sections so I can synch the thing up, plus I can make the sound quality cleaner.

I could go on about how susceptible the human mind is to the power of suggestion and how if you listen to it before you read what it's supposed to say you won't hear those things.


That's true, but that's why I didn't mention everything I heard. I want to see if anyone else heard it as well. Plus who could have used power of suggestion to make me hear these things. I started out doing this with skepticism. Thinking exactly what you said. So I said I'd use CT's songs as guinea pigs, and I'm still seeing results.
Oh and someone did hear something I didn't mention. "I'll have sex..." Interestingly When you play it forward the line is "And he tells me his best work's done in bed."

[slightly aboveaverage man]

Actually, it sounds like he's saying, "you want to Stare at my penis" in SAAM's version.

[netrider6]

Perhaps it's powered by perception. You know, you tell us what you hear, and we all instinctively hear it too(I did hear what you discribed in the first one).

:bmage: Messing with your mind....

[MasterOfMagic]

Oooh, I've always thought these things were cool. And I gotta ask : Could you put up the backwards version of my song (if its not too much trouble)? I wanna see if there are any in it... (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=220400&postcount=679 <-- link)

Perhaps it's powered by perception. You know, you tell us what you hear, and we all instinctively hear it too(I did hear what you discribed in the first one).

:bmage: Messing with your mind....
*ahem*:
That's true, but that's why I didn't mention everything I heard. I want to see if anyone else heard it as well. Plus who could have used power of suggestion to make me hear these things. I started out doing this with skepticism. Thinking exactly what you said. So I said I'd use CT's songs as guinea pigs, and I'm still seeing results.

[Kikuichimonji]

I listened to the songs before I read what Thanatos found, and I still heard what he heard.

[Thanatos]

Oooh, I've always thought these things were cool. And I gotta ask : Could you put up the backwards version of my song (if its not too much trouble)? I wanna see if there are any in it... (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=220400&postcount=679 <-- link)


Master of Magic Backwards (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123481/1/preview/Master_of_MagicRS.mp3)

I didn't really hear much. When i slowed it down, I thought I made out the phrase "Stand by Sammy Hagar" but I'm not sure. I do here the words Stand by a lot.

[PyrosNine]

The powers of suggestion are not simply limited to you telling us you heard bad words in backwards songs, therefore making us think that there are hidden messages, but the fact that you listened to the song backwards, expecting to hear those messages.

Also, anytime your brain hears something, it tries to make the most sense of it, especially if it's a human voice. So your brain will automatically change something totally or somewhat incoherent into what appears to be familiar words. Usually what words you hear can tell you quite a bit about who you are too.

Really closely listening to syllables in Queen Qeeko: FA Kee nee (You percieve it as Fu--ing)

[Kupo-chan]

And that would explain why I heard apsolutly nothing the first time I listend to those, I wasn't expecting to hear it.

[Thanatos]

And that would explain why I heard apsolutly nothing the first time I listend to those, I wasn't expecting to hear it.

I wasn't expecting to hear anything myself. As I said, I was skeptical. But I still heard something. By the way, I played those for CT last night and asked him what he heard, he heard the exact same thing I did. He then told me that I had to die for revealing his secret to everyone.

[MasterOfMagic]

Master of Magic Backwards (http://www.lulu.com/items/123000/123481/1/preview/Master_of_MagicRS.mp3)

I didn't really hear much. When i slowed it down, I thought I made out the phrase "Stand by Sammy Hagar" but I'm not sure. I do here the words Stand by a lot.
Coolies. He wouldn't put subliminal messages into his sidekick's song, too much risk he'd be affected. *nods*
(I thought I heard a few things, but nothing I would outright say were there. *shrug*)

[Inbred Chocobo]

In Master of Magic I could have sworn I heard hold the sasauge. So now I am forced to sit here and type with sasuages in my hands. CURSE YOU SUBLIMITAL MESSAGES.

[Thanatos]

CT and I played several songs backwards last night. Krylo's song is full of references to sausage and other sexual innuendo (or was that Ren's) Rai Rai's also had some sexual connotation if I remember correctly.

[Inbred Chocobo]

Would you mind telling me which programs you are using to reverse the songs? I tried it myself, but I failed horribly.

[Sato]

It's perception, "It Hurts Yum" I couldn't hear till you told me. Before it sounded like nothing.

[CHICAGO¤lollie]

Would you mind telling me which programs you are using to reverse the songs? I tried it myself, but I failed horribly.
Any free sound editor will do the job. Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com/), anyone?

[Arlia Janet]

For Meister's song, it sounds like CT is saying "maps" when he is saying "spam."
Wow.
I am impressed. :p

[Thanatos]

Would you mind telling me which programs you are using to reverse the songs? I tried it myself, but I failed horribly.

I actually use two programs for doing this. First off is the same program that CT uses for recording the songs initially: Adobe Audition. It's a great little program with many effects. The second program is ReverseSpeech which you can download here. (http://www.reversespeech.com) This program was designed specifically for dealing with the subject of reverse speech. It allows you to bookmark sections of songs where you think you may have heard something. Slow section down to hear it better, and even u-turn the play allowing you to hear what is being said forward when something is said backwards. Plus you don't have to edit the file to play songs backwards it just does it automatically.

[Osterbaum]

I'm too curious not to ask: Anything in my song?

Also about all this how the human brain works... It's all way too complicated to understand what is happening. Are we really hearing these cause they are there or not?

I don't really care, cause it's still cool.

EDIT: I think I heard something about hamburgers in MoM's song. Might just be cause I'm thinking about hamburgers and food. I'm hungry :E

[Thaumaturge]

Also about all this how the human brain works... It's all way too complicated to understand what is happening. Are we really hearing these cause they are there or not?

I can't say for certain, but I'd say that it's most probable that they're simply a product of the human mind.

As best I understand it, here is my explanation (and please, if someone notices a flaw in my logic, do correct me):

Simply put, human beings are excellent pattern matchers. Look, for instance, at any set of items, and often you will find that you start to perceive patterns - the constellations are a good example of this.

Similarly, speech is fundamental to humankind, and involves very sophisticated pattern matching to detect words, especially when you take into account such matters as tone, accent, and environmental distorion (such as wind or echoes).

With this in mind, it's easy to see how a garbled sound that still resembles a human voice, can produce seeming words. Hearing what seems to be a human voice, the mind starts working hard to extract words from it, and, eventually, the sounds are going to come slightly close to wording, close enough to be picked up by pattern matching. Having heard it, it's easy to want to hear it again if you listen to it further, and that desire encourages the connection. Furthermore, having a pattern to match to reinforces the pattern matching, which was previously mining without much aim.

Nevertheless, it is a very cool effect! :D

[Thanatos]

I'm too curious not to ask: Anything in my song?


Osterbaum RS (http://www.lulu.com/items/124000/124068/1/preview/OsterbaumRS.mp3)

I heard two things in this song that I will mention. The very first thing heard is "I hate that f**ker." And later on I heard "I'll beat your ass!" That's it.

And the reason you heard hamburgers in MoM's song is because he wants to make you desire hamburgers. He doesn't really work for Video Warehouse, he works for McDonald's in marketing and advertising. But was caught adding subliminal messages to their jingles and was arrested for fraud. The real reason he has no internet, is because he is serving a 4 year sentence in penn state...oops I mean the state Pen.

[Osterbaum]

And the reason you heard hamburgers in MoM's song is because he wants to make you desire hamburgers. He doesn't really work for Video Warehouse, he works for McDonald's in marketing and advertising. But was caught adding subliminal messages to their jingles and was arrested for fraud. The real reason he has no internet, is because he is serving a 4 year sentence in penn state...oops I mean the state Pen.

Yes... It all makes sense now.

Funny though... In my song I think can hear "My...[something]" and then "I hate...[something]". But I don't hear the things you did. But if CT really hates me? Aww... That's so touching ^^

[Omega]

very ammusing this is i would reverse my song and look for any arm referances.... but the site with that program appears to be down... some one wana do it for me?

anywhoo in osters song i herds something along the lines of "my first soiled boy hand" .... maybe im over tired......

[Dragonsbane]

...This will not be pleasant, but I must know. Is there anything in my song?

[Thanatos]

...This will not be pleasant, but I must know. Is there anything in my song?

DragonsBane Reverse (http://www.lulu.com/items/124000/124187/1/preview/DragonsbaneRS.mp3)

I believe that he may have been calling you a racist. I heard a racial slur repeated over and over, and upon listening to it some more, I heard this proceeded by the words "He hates..." But then I thought you hated everyone which is why you are trying to destroy all mankind.

[Osterbaum]

I heard something to the lines of "He hates niggas" Or atleast DB hates something I think. I could make out something else, but I can't remember what it was.

[Thanatos]

I heard something to the lines of "He hates niggas" Or atleast DB hates something I think. I could make out something else, but I can't remember what it was.

Yep, that's what I heard also. So apparently Dragonsbane is a racist and must be destroyed. To keep him from getting in the way of my plans to take over the World!!!!!

edit: ignore whatever you saw before!!! stupid BBCode

[Dragonsbane]

CT has slandered me. I don't discriminate...I hate ALL life equally!

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

do you even hate the turtles?
this is shocking! Slander of npfers in there own Songs.what has the world come to.
im almost glad that i dont have a song :)

[Inbred Chocobo]

Using the program you used, I found absolutely nothing on my song backwards. I would post it, but I am at school. I was wondering if you heard anything playing my song backwards?

[CheshireThief]

I found nothing. In any of the songs. Not in ANY of them. CT is good. He does not send subliminal messages. Ever. Go back to your happy little lives, citizens.Now, my minions, strike.

[Nikose Tyris]

wow. sounds like classic denial to me.