Episode 548: I'm certainly not rolling my bluff again!

[Cybren]

That one was funny. Yay!
But i'm suprised still no WM/Sarda plot tangents

[Nucleus]

Brilliant. That was very funny.

What is going on with Bikke's face in the second frame?

[Dr.GoldenClaw]

Oh good ol' Fighter. Keepin' it real. Real dumb.

But damn that Red Mage. I wanted to hear what the name of the city was. Because if it's Seaside, that would mean we are close to Kraken. And I half expected him to say "I don't speak common." To Vilbert.

Fighter is a good counterpart to Garland.
Thief is a good counterpart to Drizz'l.
Red Mage is a good counterpart to Vilbert.
But... I just don't see any match between Black Mage and Bikke. Aside from the fact that they both have no problem with killing their own teammates.

[Flarecobra]

That's his thinking pose.

And Fighter never ceases of amaze me. One would think that by now he would reconizie Garland.

[TheI3rokenspiral]

Good job Fighter, don't let them onto you. Great comic, this one made me laugh out loud! I hope BM kills Fighter again for that little act.

[Willowhugger]

We can't be the Kracken.

What's next is the Bahamut meeting.

[Dr.GoldenClaw]

Barrrrrhhh! I didn't go meet Bahamut until I cleared out the Underwater Shrine. Speaking of which...I wonder if Brian is going to bother making Mermaid sprites or not. Hmmm.

Anyway, in most FF faqs, it is recommended to go nowhere NEAR the Castle of Ordeals until you've been seasoned through the quest for the Water Orb. It's not the Castle that will kill you. But the journey getting there. Those friggin Barrettes (or however you spell it) that roam around near the area will kill you with extreme prejudice if you try and sneak in a class upgrade too early in your levels. Though that might be funny to put in the comic.

[Major Blood]

Brilliant!!! Thats 8 comics in a row that have made me laugh out loud. But what facial expression is Bikke trying to make in the first panel?

[CHICAGO¤lollie]

First panel? That's his normal face.

I should've expected Fighter. That was just downright typically funny of him. :B

[Adahn]

I think Garland makes a good counterpart for Fighter because they're bothbird brained, pea brained, deadheads, boneheads, blockheads, knuckleheads, squareheads, jugheads, saps, twerps, turkeys, air-heads and ding-a-lings. For lack of a better word.

On the other hand, Fighter's also a great fighter just like Drizz'l. While Drizz'l is smart just like Black Mage. Vilbert's perfect counter part is of course, Red Mage. Thief's counterpart should be Bike, since they're both lawless men. So yeah, yeah I would put Garland with Fighter.

[Trixbeat]

You know, you would think the DW actually notice who they're talking to. This is casting more doubt onto how they killed the yeti.

[Questionmarktarius]

Anyway, in most FF faqs, it is recommended to go nowhere NEAR the Castle of Ordeals until you've been seasoned through the quest for the Water Orb. It's not the Castle that will kill you. But the journey getting there. Those friggin Barrettes (or however you spell it) that roam around near the area will kill you with extreme prejudice if you try and sneak in a class upgrade too early in your levels.The common assumption is to drive the airship up there, and then take the long-ass walk all the way to castle.
The easier thing to do, overall, is to take the boat there and park it in front of that little lake that's right in front of the castle. It's a much shorter walk, and far less likely to run into random death.

http://home.earthlink.net/~tslindsey/ordeals.gif

[konnor]

so one question how will the ord of ice come into their hands?

ooh im frothing at the mouth!

[paperwarior]

Perhaps they'll get rejected by Bahamut. It's unlikely that Thief would become Ninja, so proably none of them will change class.

[w0rf]

I think Garland makes a good counterpart for Fighter because they're bothbird brained, pea brained, deadheads, boneheads, blockheads, knuckleheads, squareheads, jugheads, saps, twerps, turkeys, air-heads and ding-a-lings. For lack of a better word.

On the other hand, Fighter's also a great fighter just like Drizz'l. While Drizz'l is smart just like Black Mage. Vilbert's perfect counter part is of course, Red Mage. Thief's counterpart should be Bike, since they're both lawless men. So yeah, yeah I would put Garland with Fighter.
Garland - Fighter - dim bulbs
Drizz'l - Thief - elves
Vilbert - Red Mage - LARPers
Bikke - Black Mage - "aw man, how'd I get stuck with THIS loser?" "shut up, yar" "HADOKEN!!!" "yaaaarrrrrr, my arse!"

[Jhonka]

The second panel cracked me up. "...then how is it ye be talkin' to the Bikke?" :D

Loved RM and Vilbert's part, too.

[Qalelar]

The common assumption is to drive the airship up there, and then take the long-ass walk all the way to castle.
The easier thing to do, overall, is to take the boat there and park it in front of that little lake that's right in front of the castle. It's a much shorter walk, and far less likely to run into random death.

http://home.earthlink.net/~tslindsey/ordeals.gif


Blarg beaten to it.....I did this and didnt get a single fight going to or coming from the castle.....and I did this before I beat Kary....my first stop once I got the canoe was the ice cave for the floater. (Got to love that "Run" command from every battle, then just go back later and loot the chests.) Also saves the canoe ride for the volcano muhahaha.

And BTW there was no orb of ice........air water fire earth were the 4 orbs..the item found in the ice cave was the floater which allowed you to get the airship.

Quick edit: BTW this is 8bt...brian COULD in theory make an orb of ice...and while is at it could make a heart orb and by the orb powers combined.......CAPTAIN CLEVINGER!!!! This is brians comic and he can do as he pleases.

[Kima Azure]

Yeah, but that sorta thing is annoying. Anyway, I wonder what'll happen next. Probably a battle which will be full of stupidity. (Why couldn't they do that in the original game? Having you fight four Dark Warriors several times?)

[Klyco]

that was gold man. "HI! Im fighter!" For some reason, he had Donuts voice in my head.

Also

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[Paper Ninja]

Horray! Brian is finaly moving towards the class change!!!

[Swiftbow]

Heh, I totally broke what you're supposed to do...
(this is the order I did the game)
Earth Cave
Castle of Ordeals
Ice Cave
Waterfall
Water Shrine
Air Castle (can't remeber its name)
Fire Cave
Chaos

After leveling up on that little pennisula near the pirates, I just kept putting off the fire cave, lol.

[Major Blood]

I hope they actually don't class change. Cuz then the ture light warriors allready look like that and personally, i have allready identified with the appearence they allready have. Up until now BM has always been self consious about people seeing his face. How do you think he would react if bahamut told him he wouldn't get to wear his hat anymore? HADOKEN!!!!!!!

[Michael Morris]

I hope they actually don't class change. Cuz then the ture light warriors allready look like that and personally, i have allready identified with the appearence they allready have. Up until now BM has always been self consious about people seeing his face. How do you think he would react if bahamut told him he wouldn't get to wear his hat anymore? HADOKEN!!!!!!!

Brian's already on record as saying he isn't going to use the FF1 sprites after the class change.

[Kurosen]

How could I? The "Real" Light Warriors are already out there somewhere using those same sprites.

[PyrosNine]

He'll probably use the new FF1 sprites, from the GBA game. But will he also upgrade the world too?

[Carnivore]

As I recall, the sprites Brian will be using are sprites from Final Fantasy 3 (Japanese version) except for Thief.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030626
See?

[netrider6]

NOO! I like the classic look, it just apeals to me somehow. It's easier to edit expressions, and doesn't distract from the funny.

[Dr.GoldenClaw]

Indeed. Why change from FF1 sprites? Using them for so long and them dropping them? I can't imagine that happening. Not successfully, anyway. Some things are just better off constant.

[Doc T]

But... I just don't see any match between Black Mage and Bikke. Aside from the fact that they both have no problem with killing their own teammates.
And they both have appaling personal hygiene

[PyrosNine]

You guys kinda are forgetting the other DWs, like Kary and the Lich. Technically the match up is

Kary Vs. BM
Lich Vs. WM
Gillbert Vs. RM
Bikke Vs. Thief
Garland Vs. BB
That elven guy missing his swords Vs Fighter

Sadly, Bb's dead So garland's fine, or perhaps it's

Garland Vs. Garland.

[Cybren]

Kary and Lich never joined the Dark Warriors

[PyrosNine]

Neither Did WM and BB join the Light warriors, understand?

[Cybren]

That just makes you even more wrong.

[PyrosNine]

But in they they are warriors fighting for light, aren't they? Same deal.

Except that BB's deader than "WHAAAZZZZZUUUPP" fad.

[Number 81]

I'm sure that, even if there was a class change, that the party will mess up somehow. I can't imagine Black mage being any different.
Black Mage did call it a horrible mistake (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030626)

[Syka]

WHAAAAAAAAAZZZUUUUUUUUUPPPPP!!! Sorry I just had to do that.

Oh yeah as for the topic:
Seeing as Brian writes the comic he makes the matches. Also Kary and Lich are dead. Black Belt is also dead, and who knows what will happen with WM. Drizz'l and Theif match because they are both evil elves, Fighter and Garland match because they're idiots, Red Mage and Vilbert match because of their geekiness, and Black Mage and Bikke both think they're sane and the smart ones (they're actually both the dumbest in case you can't tell). OK, that's my 12 cents.

[Kima Azure]

Technically, Lich didn't die, he just got a one-way ticket to Hell.

[Rookie]

I prefer the current look right now. I couldn't imagine the characters looking any other way.

[Dr.GoldenClaw]

But in they they are warriors fighting for light, aren't they? Same deal.

Except that BB's deader than "WHAAAZZZZZUUUPP" fad.
Curiously, I was thinking about that short-lived phrase a couple days ago.

And death is binary. You either are dead or ye aint! You can't be deader than someone else. You can, however, have a higher rating of obliteration on your corpse than someone else. But I'm sure God is tired of hearing about all the bragging from that, as it is. He didn't want to have to put up with being "Deader" as well.

Though I'm confused at Black Belt's death. Kary did slice him up good, and supposedly that's how he died. Black Mage later said something about scraping Black Belt's remains off the roof of the volcano. I remember the volcano exploding and all that where Black Belt would supposedly be blown to bits...and.. uhh.. I don't know where I'm going with this. Forget I said this last paragraph.

[PyrosNine]

We'll see Lich again, and odds are anyone else the group has killed and sent to hell will come back with him. He promised it, and Kary's going to come with him.

He's kinda the evil white mage because he kinda 'heals' his allies by bringing them back from the dead.

As for Kary, the similarity was expressed when BM tells her if she wasn't half snake, he'd be on her "like blood on my knife".

[Dr.GoldenClaw]

Well of COURSE they'll be back, you silly boy. Haven't you played the original game? You fight all 4 fiends again in the Temple of Fiends when the party goes 2000 years into the past. Lich is revamped with Nuke/Flare when you fight him the second time, though.

And yeah. I'd be on Kary too, if she wasn't half-snake. And if she didn't have some sort of "Body Flames" spell-like ability which any fire-affiliated monstrousity should have. Body Flames to Fire Demons are like Black Candles to Pisco Demons, m'man.

And lastly, Kary is basically a Marilith, right? Shouldn't she have a second rack? That's how it went in Icewind Dale, if I do remember correctly. Damn was that woman a tough kill. Yzunoxumnei or some fuggin' long name like that, I believe.

[RedScar]

Ya they come back, and lich is Hell King! Anyways I think tat changeing the sprites is horrible. If you use the newest sprites then Black Mage kepts his hat but gains pixels. The "real light warriors"(Why do you call them that. You know that only the true heros would be put in a comic as great as this.) have the other sprites. The only reasonible awanser is to kept them the same.

...

Or run around screaming and paincing if they change.

[Rookie]

When Brian gets through the series, i can't remember if he discussed this in the FAQ or not, will he move on to the next game in the series? or branch off with the same characters on some random silliness thing?

[Adahn]

And they both have appaling personal hygiene

It's his reagent and component pouch! >.< :bmage:

Yzunoxumnei or some fuggin' long name like that, I believe.

... You mean Yxunomei... it's not as long as you make it >.> :rmage:

[crabsoneyes]

I'm confused at to what's going on. Like, is the "witness protection program" for blowing up the ship?


And maybe they'll keep the sprites, but after the class change they'll just have spanking new abilities etc.

[Rocketlex]

They'll probably get something wierd to signify the class change, like new hats.

...

I don't now where that came from.

[Quirriff`]

They're already more competent than, Knight, Red Wizard, White Wizard and Ninja, they don't need a class change.

[Adahn]

They're already more competent than, Knight, Red Wizard, White Wizard and Ninja, they don't need a class change.

What about Black mage? Black Wizard?

[mammothtank]

When Brian gets through the series, i can't remember if he discussed this in the FAQ or not, will he move on to the next game in the series? or branch off with the same characters on some random silliness thing? Brian has explicitly stated that he will NOT make a new comic after 8-Bit Theater ends. Fortunately, at this rate, the comic will reach Episode 1000 before it does end, so there'll be plenty of 8-Bit fun for years to come.

[mauve]

Brian has explicitly stated that he will NOT make a new comic after 8-Bit Theater ends. Fortunately, at this rate, the comic will reach Episode 1000 before it does end, so there'll be plenty of 8-Bit fun for years to come.


What will we do when it ends? Our lives will once more be without meaning! Will we all turn into Trekkies or something similarly frightening in order to ease the pain in our broken hearts and to fill the empty gaping hole left within our soul once 8-Bit Theatre is gone? Or will we break? WILL THE MADNESS FINALLY CONSUME US ALL!?!

Luckily, we still have many years of 8-bit before we have to worry about THE END. Like the eventual death of our golden sun, it is an inevitable event in the distant future that will either kill us or our children. Hopefully the children. Little brats. :bmage:

[Kurosen]

I'll probably do another comic after 8BT, but it'll be hand drawn and not a sequel to 8BT or go into FF2 or anything like that.

[Gumpy]

The idea of the end of 8bit scares me.

[Anarchy_Balsac]

I'll probably do another comic after 8BT, but it'll be hand drawn and not a sequel to 8BT or go into FF2 or anything like that.

You should do a non-plot driven one that pokes fun at random things, or that what you already plan?

[Viktor Von Russia]

I'm confused at to what's going on. Like, is the "witness protection program" for blowing up the ship?

I believe it was to hide them from Sarda, since he'd probably be pissed they didn't find the water orb.

[mammothtank]

The Water Orb isn't in the Ice Cave. It's in the Sunken Shrine, off of Onrac. The Floater/Levistone is in the Ice Cave, but I'm unsure as to whether or not they found it. It doesn't look like they did.

[TheI3rokenspiral]

What will we do when it ends? Our lives will once more be without meaning! Will we all turn into Trekkies or something similarly frightening in order to ease the pain in our broken hearts and to fill the empty gaping hole left within our soul once 8-Bit Theatre is gone?

For personal reference, I will never succumb to the Trekkies. I will fight them and win with my lightsaber and the Force.

I'll probably just spend all the time I did reading the comics to....well re-read the comics...I'm a loser...

[PyrosNine]

Probably by the time the comic's over, Square might be dead and it's properties public domain, Whereupon Brian could buy the rights to Final Fantasy 1, and Sell printed comic books of all the webcomics to all our spoiled futuristic children.

[Adahn]

Well, still... you're not planning on stopping any time soon, are ya Brian? ^^

[Ace_of_Spades]

... and as usual, fighter f***s everything up for the 'light warriors'. And scince BM wasted his Hadoken, who's going to get them outa this mess?

[Kaldis]

The GBA sprites are pretty, it should be an interesting transistion. I bet Brian can pull it off.

[netrider6]

... and as usual, fighter f***s everything up for the 'light warriors'. And scince BM wasted his Hadoken, who's going to get them outa this mess?

Well, it's just the Dark Warriors, I assume a quick stabbity would go off splendly... :bmage:

That or running...

[Dr.GoldenClaw]

Probably by the time the comic's over, Square might be dead and it's properties public domain, Whereupon Brian could buy the rights to Final Fantasy 1, and Sell printed comic books of all the webcomics to all our spoiled futuristic children.
Square-Enix shows no signs of dying. The same way Pixar shows no sign of dying. Both have huge futures. Every day I see something that ties to Square-Enix in 7 branches or less.

Let me give you a stupid example. Let's use...Ghost in the Shell.

Music by Yoko Kanno --> Yoko Kanno has worked with Cowboy Bebop --> Cowboy Bebop has 'Vicious' --> 'Vicious' is heavily inspired by 'Sephiroth'. And practically one of the first Sephiroth clones.

That's only 4 branches. It's a small world, ain't it? For Square-Enix it is. Friggin' big and evil company!

[Syka]

Hey Square still isn't as evil as EA. Back to the topic: I'm confident that somebody on the boards will make a continued version of 8-bit, only not nearly as funny. Still I'd like to see Brian's comic afterwards.

[w0rf]

Well of COURSE they'll be back, you silly boy. Haven't you played the original game? You fight all 4 fiends again in the Temple of Fiends when the party goes 2000 years into the past. Lich is revamped with Nuke/Flare when you fight him the second time, though.
Am I the only one who finds it odd that the fiends are considerably more powerful in the past than in the present? What, do they just sit around their respective lairs, allowing their bodies to be ravaged by entropic forces while guarding the orb from various warriors of the non-Light variety? GET YOUR ASS INTO A GYM, LICH!

[mauve]

For personal reference, I will never succumb to the Trekkies. I will fight them and win with my lightsaber and the Force.

I'll probably just spend all the time I did reading the comics to....well re-read the comics...I'm a loser...

*Claps* Bravo, I3rokenspiral. You can resist the Trekkies!