Ammo anyone?

CelesJessa · 07-26-2004, 03:47 PM

Recently, while playing 007: Agent Under Fire, I realized that they have got a serious problem with underequipping Bond. I mean, I know it's Bond, but... come on! 9 bullets to start a mission?

"Alright 007, this mission is very important to the safety of England, nay, the WORLD! So, here's a pistol with only 9 bullets... we had to cut down after spending all of our money on that spy car you just blew up."

So what other games have a serious problem with not equipping your characters well? (it could be something as far off as in FFX having to pay for your equipment on the airship when they KNOW you are the only ones left to save the world. Wouldn't you think they would GIVE you stuff if it's that iomportant?)

Peo · 07-26-2004, 03:50 PM

some d&d games are like that, they dont have any stores so you have to find all your weapons in the dungeons.

Lockeownzj00 · 07-26-2004, 08:47 PM

I've always thought about this.

This is actually a valid game lament. Many games nowadays use initial-equipment boosts as an incentive to buy. I often hear this in interviews-- "no, we're not going to start you off with a dagger and rag clothes and make you end up with crystal armor and blizzard 5, you start right off the bat with cool powers that slowly adapt."

Companies seem to be steering away from the impossible inferiority->godliness method nowadays, to the point where there IS no game where the above example happens, and they're just making you think there is

Anyway, games that underequip you...hmm...well the harvest moon games, even though they're godly. It takes a while to gain a good foot hold.

MP37a · 07-26-2004, 09:02 PM

In resident evil 2 when you beat all the side stories and get to play as tofu. I mean you're a freaking piece of tofu with a knife up against zombies! lol

lazy man · 07-26-2004, 09:09 PM

I would say Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is pretty bad providing for you when you don't conserve your potions or ammo. Especially on your first time, when you use potions very often because you don't have the good experience you need in that game. This is especially annoying when you go up against a tough boss with only two potions and 1/4 of your health.

Otaku Son · 07-26-2004, 09:14 PM

Gungrave! I mean, you just have two pistols with unlimited ammo, and a coffin that warehouses all of your power-ups so whenever to get enough successive hits, you can unleash a payload of virtally any monterous proportion on the baddies. Yeah, I can just feel for the under-equipped baddies. Until I shoot their heads off.

Oh, wait, you mean under-equipped heroes? How about every freakin' Megaman game?

Dr. Light: "Sorry, Megaman, but I need to take those cool Robot Master powers from you."
Megaman: "What is Dr. Light strikes again!?"
Dr. Light: "Oh, he won't. You're Megaman, and you put him behind bars."
Megaman: "Yeah, I've been doing that for seven times now..."

Or Einhänder.

Einhänder Weapon Designer(EWD): "Okay, pilot, we've designed this super-cool system that you can equip any guns that were made by us."
Pilot: "Cool, so what're you gonna give me?"
EWD: "Ah, see, the thing is...we don't have any cool weapons for you. They were all stlen by Earth."
Pilot: "Why don't you just make some more?"
EWD: "Uhhhh...funding is short...yeah."
Pilot: "Well if you guys would stp working on those two prototypes and invest your fundings in the three crafts that actually fly, since the war is going to be over before those two get the chance to be tested..."

Zweihander · 07-26-2004, 09:23 PM

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010801

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010815

That simple.

CatManDo · 07-26-2004, 09:41 PM

metroid

damn crappy emergency pistols!!

Dante · 07-26-2004, 10:33 PM

Nobody mentioned Metal Gear Solid? The game where they make you go and destroy a whole bunch of terorrists with nothing but your binos and a pack of cigs?

And believe me, On-Site Procurement IRL is patent bullcrap. You are far more likely to procure a bullet in the head than a weapon when you try to barehandedly take on an armed guard with an assault rifle, even if the guards are rank conscripts with unloaded weapons, let alone those genome supersoldiers who are always on alert.

The Mirror Emperor · 07-26-2004, 10:35 PM

I think they underequip you to give off major hints there's an unlimited ammo cheat.

07-26-2004, 03:47 PM	#1
CelesJessa DA-DA-DA-DAA DAA DAA DA DA-DAAAAAA! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Zanzibar Land Posts: 6,531	Ammo anyone? Recently, while playing 007: Agent Under Fire, I realized that they have got a serious problem with underequipping Bond. I mean, I know it's Bond, but... come on! 9 bullets to start a mission? "Alright 007, this mission is very important to the safety of England, nay, the WORLD! So, here's a pistol with only 9 bullets... we had to cut down after spending all of our money on that spy car you just blew up." So what other games have a serious problem with not equipping your characters well? (it could be something as far off as in FFX having to pay for your equipment on the airship when they KNOW you are the only ones left to save the world. Wouldn't you think they would GIVE you stuff if it's that iomportant?) __________________

07-26-2004, 03:50 PM	#2
Peo Wrath of the Gods Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Life IS a Video Game and I'm In It Posts: 232	some d&d games are like that, they dont have any stores so you have to find all your weapons in the dungeons. __________________ The main cause of suffering is egoistic desire for one's own comfort and happiness. His Holiness the Dalai Lama

07-26-2004, 09:02 PM	#4
MP37a Sacred Samurai Gunslinger Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wellsville, Ohio Posts: 643	In resident evil 2 when you beat all the side stories and get to play as tofu. I mean you're a freaking piece of tofu with a knife up against zombies! lol __________________ "I'm going to wrap you in bacon, and throw you on the grill!!"

07-26-2004, 09:23 PM	#7
Zweihander You are not reading this. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ::1 Posts: 1,443	http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010801 http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010815 That simple. __________________ How to make sure your subtitles take advantage of newfangled things like anti-aliasing.

07-26-2004, 09:41 PM	#8
CatManDo neko wa kawaii desune Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 61	metroid damn crappy emergency pistols!! __________________ Man its cold up here , i use a JACKHAMMER to get the ice off of my drive way.

07-26-2004, 09:09 PM	#5
lazy man Harrumph! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: My not-so-humble abode Posts: 2,891	I would say Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is pretty bad providing for you when you don't conserve your potions or ammo. Especially on your first time, when you use potions very often because you don't have the good experience you need in that game. This is especially annoying when you go up against a tough boss with only two potions and 1/4 of your health.

07-26-2004, 09:14 PM	#6
Otaku Son Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,488	Gungrave! I mean, you just have two pistols with unlimited ammo, and a coffin that warehouses all of your power-ups so whenever to get enough successive hits, you can unleash a payload of virtally any monterous proportion on the baddies. Yeah, I can just feel for the under-equipped baddies. Until I shoot their heads off. Oh, wait, you mean under-equipped heroes? How about every freakin' Megaman game? Dr. Light: "Sorry, Megaman, but I need to take those cool Robot Master powers from you." Megaman: "What is Dr. Light strikes again!?" Dr. Light: "Oh, he won't. You're Megaman, and you put him behind bars." Megaman: "Yeah, I've been doing that for seven times now..." Or Einhänder. Einhänder Weapon Designer(EWD): "Okay, pilot, we've designed this super-cool system that you can equip any guns that were made by us." Pilot: "Cool, so what're you gonna give me?" EWD: "Ah, see, the thing is...we don't have any cool weapons for you. They were all stlen by Earth." Pilot: "Why don't you just make some more?" EWD: "Uhhhh...funding is short...yeah." Pilot: "Well if you guys would stp working on those two prototypes and invest your fundings in the three crafts that actually fly, since the war is going to be over before those two get the chance to be tested..."

07-26-2004, 10:33 PM	#9
Dante Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Crushing the weak beneath the iron jackboots of tyranny Posts: 7,703	Nobody mentioned Metal Gear Solid? The game where they make you go and destroy a whole bunch of terorrists with nothing but your binos and a pack of cigs? And believe me, On-Site Procurement IRL is patent bullcrap. You are far more likely to procure a bullet in the head than a weapon when you try to barehandedly take on an armed guard with an assault rifle, even if the guards are rank conscripts with unloaded weapons, let alone those genome supersoldiers who are always on alert.

07-26-2004, 10:35 PM	#10
The Mirror Emperor Enigma Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the depths of your mind Posts: 706	I think they underequip you to give off major hints there's an unlimited ammo cheat. __________________ The Mirror Empire has a population of zero. Even I grow tired of myself.