05-29-2007, 06:12 PM | #1 | |
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Chinese official sentenced to death for corruption
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I agree that this guys actions are going to aversely affect China's export business - who is going to buy agricultural products that are most likely contaminated with poison?
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05-29-2007, 07:33 PM | #2 |
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It says that he hasn't been linked to any deaths yet....personally I think execution is a bit extreme for that (unless, of course, it turns out that he was indeed responsible for deaths).
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05-29-2007, 10:20 PM | #3 | |
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Personally, as a fellow chinese person (yes, I am Chinese) I am quite relieved something like this has finally happened. The chinese government has been far too slack in disciplining the officials over these kinds of incidents.
In fact, most of china's governmental officials are pretty much corrupted anyway. I just wish they'd have thought about getting a crack down on government officials taking bribery and whatnot a HELLUVA lot earlier.
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05-30-2007, 08:15 AM | #4 |
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I personally support the Chinese government's decision in this. This guy's actions were responsible for, at the very least, "dozens of deaths". It's not like he was hard done by or desperately needed the money, given his position in the government.
Frankly, it's a good thing to do. If people have been entrusted with this kind of authority and responsibility, then there cannot be someone looking out for their own personal good above the good of the many. This kind of cracking down on corruption could be used in any government. Not necessarily the death sentence for everyone, but there should be more than a brief apology and a shuffle to some other department.
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05-30-2007, 02:36 PM | #5 |
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As someone who comes from a country where the running thought on corruption is "Let 'em steal, so long as they act in the people's interests with what's left" I have to applaud China's no-tolerance stance on corruption. I do hope the guy just gets a long, long time in jail (I'm kinda shaky on death penalty) but its good that the nation is stomping hard on that stuff, lest it get out of control. Kinda wish someone implemented that sort of thinking in Ecuador...
That said, think this (the execution, not the crimes) will affect Chinese exports? Think it'll reaffirm importers in the US about feed and pet food?
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05-30-2007, 05:03 PM | #6 |
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Not for me, because the article explicitly states that the charges of corruption are unrelated to the pet food thing. What I don't get is why people are hailing this as some kind of epihiny for the Chinese gov't. They cracked down on one official, what about all the other crap they have going on in their gov't? They're using that guy as a scapegoat to try to convince people that they're actually doing something (which, unfortuanately, is an action not limited to just the Chinese; pretty much every gov't, including the US does this kind of crap, personally I'm surprised people are still taking this kind of thing seriously).
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05-30-2007, 05:56 PM | #7 | |
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05-31-2007, 04:44 PM | #8 |
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Well, if this is to be taken as an action forming a precedent, its great. If its merely a scapegoat, I suppose that its good you're pointing that out. It is true that this could not form any sort of precedent, and instead merely distract and attempt to change the perception of Chinese business and government in the world. In any case, I hope it follows through with more convictions of corrupt officials.
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05-31-2007, 11:11 PM | #9 |
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I really hope that it is a precedent, rather than merely a scapegoat. Killing one corrupt official doesn't solve the problem. Sending a message that any illicit activities will not be tolerated would sure as hell make sure everyone stays in line.
I doubt it will be one of those things which is able to translate country to country, but China's actions here could influence Western countries to also demonstrate that they won't tolerate corruption, albiet with less severe punishments.
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05-31-2007, 11:23 PM | #10 |
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While I am glad that they are taking action against corruption, I cannot condone the specific action taken. Lock him in prison and make him scrub floors. Publicize it. If I recall, in many asian cultures shame is worse than death. Hopefully this is one of them.
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