Pokemon Umbral Discussion 23: My Favorite Number!

[Bard The 5th LW]

All is now right with the world of Pokemon Umbral...

[Geminex]

Do you know what's especially right? The fact that Renny has a technique whereby he benefits from his allies' injuries.

I only just realized it, but if we changed it to "feeds off his allies' pain" instead of "heroically comes to their rescue", the attack would still make complete thematic sense!
Only Charlotte would have it...

Hey, Bard. You have to do that. Get exact the same technique, with the change I mentioned above. It'd be hilairous.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I have actually been considering making Charlotte using the Breeder class rather than Battle Master/Mistress/whatever. Only, change the name and details of it to pretty much be centered around abuse and cruelty rather than love and understanding. Maybe give Charlotte a fire or poison type whip.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Allright...

In that case, I'd actually be ok with it the way Menarker proposed it... The only thing that I feel a bit iffy about is the "-10 RPs for each of Renny's unconscious pokemon"...

And, for that matter, that he can hit with every type. When I read "80 damage", that disarmed me a bit, but I suddenly realize, he'll almost always either be hitting with double or even quadruple damage.
100 damage per attack (already including the critical), but typeless damage, no weakness, no resistance, no STAB, is what I'd recommend.

For Renny's pokemon, they are his best friends aside from the humans. Naturally he's going to be pissed off when someone beat down on them. But 20 points for each is pretty high up. Hence 10. 2 pokemons down get a free hit in a way. 3 free hits if all his pokemons are down. (Also note I put it that they have to be knocked out, not weaken like the other characters.)

Also, Renny doesn't have the ability to hit with every type normally. If he's a slayer, he's limited to the type of his weapons although has more options for STAB (but that should be a reward if Renny does go for 4 levels of slayer). If he's a pokebrid, sure he has more attack types, but he also has less STAB options and he needs to spend 60 RP to pokeshift, 40 ...

Guess I was mistaken about Sync-Teching with this move. Renny wouldn't have a single RP to spend and would have to rely on almost all his friends to knocked out to do anything.

I'd still think that Renny should be allowed to use type. Many of the tougher foes like pokebrids already have ways to eliminate weaknesses anyhow. Otherwise, 120 power typeless which is still less than what STAB would give, especially for Slayers.

Anyhow, just brainstorming, since I don't know what the future holds for new updates regarding super classes and all that. ^^


As for Charlotte comment... it's plausible, since the notion of the breeder is to bring out the very best in their pokemons. Renny does so with love, but nothing really stop someone from doing it with fear, although Renny would obviously contest that.

EDIT: I might end up sticking with 120 typeless just because it'll be easier on AB, instead of having to deal with various mathathics of STAB, various weakness points if Renny attack foes of multiple different types and so on.

[Geminex]

I'd still think that Renny should be allowed to use type. Many of the tougher foes like pokebrids already have ways to eliminate weaknesses anyhow. Otherwise, 120 power typeless which is still less than what STAB would give, especially for Slayers.

Deal. 120 typless, the rest remains as it is. I'm fine with that. Is everyone else?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Sure, all up to AB in the end though.

[Menarker]

Valiant Rush
Description: Renny goes into a passionate frenzy when his allies and friends are in danger and personally enters the fray, inflicting damage on any targets of his choice with multiple blows that foes find difficult to shrug off.
Cost: 20 RP per hit. For every ally in Renny's team below 33% hitpoints and thus "in the red" or knocked out (or for every trainer down to 2 or less pokemons including 0), reduce the cost by 20. For each of Renny's pokemons knocked out, reduce the cost by 10. It's possible for the technique to be free if the reduced cost is more than the cost he pays for.
Effect: For every payment of 20 rage, Renny does a unmissing critical hit that bypasses Protect and Endure using typeless element (Able to hit any target equally regardless of type) to a target of choice. Thus he can choose to focus each individual hit on one target or divide the hits among any number of foes. The power of each blow is around 120 power after taking the doubled power due to crit in account. This move can only be used once every three turns regardless of how much rage he used or how many or few hits he done.


Is this the final copy you had in mind or did I miss something? Just to be sure since Drac was demanding some other nerfs such as increased wait time.

EDIT: Gem, get your post done before AB goes ahead without you!