Pokemon Umbral Discussion 23: My Favorite Number! - Page 9

Astral Harmony · 05-25-2010, 03:41 AM

No, you don't need to know what's going to happen. It's greater than you.

Menarker · 05-25-2010, 07:20 AM

Dante, I don't think you ever told us what your 3rd form was yet. ^^;
Are you trying to keep it a secret for now?

EDIT: Anyhow, Impact voted on Harriette and Rachel for Shock Trooper and Medic respectively.

I already posted my choices several posts back, no disagreement with the two currently selected. I selected Cecilia as my Enforcer btw.

Once again though, I'd suggest pairing either Wilhelmina for sniper, Mirror for Engineer (They got a dual tech) or Moon and Evangaleen. (If Moon is the engineer, someone should bring Shannon as their enforcer for a powerful Gal-Tech that costs 40 RP for both of them if they are on the field.)

Also for anyone stupid enough to try to romance Wildfire... Beware when engaging in foreplay with mechanical girls. ^,^

I don't know why I can't link pictures directly to this site. They just disappear or refuse to come up properly when I try to link to the pic instead of posting directly.

DanteFalcon · 05-25-2010, 01:22 PM

Its nothing majorly important so I can spill it. Finally got some actual Firepower.

Porygon Z. Still working on appearance but it'll be strange, even for Matt.

Menarker · 05-25-2010, 01:59 PM

Very powerful offensive choice. Special Attack is equal to Alazakam. Hyper Beam will be your best offensive move due to STAB. Nasty Plot will boost your Special Attack to a large degree. Got a large movepool. And the move Conversion 2 will change your type to a type that is resistant to the last move that hit you.
Or alternatively, you can use Conversion so your type is the same as the move that hit you. Good if fighting against fire, water and that sort of thing, but crappy if you tried to use it on a dragon move. ^^;

Anyhow, it sounds like a good choice. ^^

EDIT: Set up my pokemon's movesets and items.

Astral Harmony · 05-25-2010, 03:51 PM

Finish choosing who you want to deploy, but hold out on the formation setup. I'll go ahead and kick off the first battle this afternoon. After you see the first enemy formation, then you can decide how to arrange your team to best employ your advantages.

I'm thinking Destroyers will end up with a RP move system. All of their attacks will cost RPs, but they'll build RPs at a faster rate. So, probably about every turn they'll have enough RPs to fire a solid attack, but if you give them additional turns to charge RPs, they can use a much more destructive move.

It's going to end up being pretty funny using that SignSeq with Mirror and Wilhelmina. After all, Wilhelmina's a Sniper, but their SignSeq suggests that they're both right there, attacking at melee range. Wilhelmina's going to have to come up with some clever ways to get down to the battlefield quickly and then back.

Menarker · 05-25-2010, 04:01 PM

Ok, so here are our options as follows. Since Impact already stated that Harriette and Rachel would be Shock Trooper and Medic.

Snipers:
Evangaleen Harris
Whitney Calnein
Wilhelmina Rustfield (Combos with Mirror)
Calisto Bellmond

Engineers:
Moon Travorian (Combos with Shannon)
Mirror Brisholm (Combos with Wilhelmina)
Heidi Knoman

Enforcers: (Cecilia and Misha already claimed by Renny and Pierce respectively. Impact, Charlotte and Matthias have yet to choose.)
Shannon Mordhaus (Combos with Moon)
Garus Wilderschmidt
Hector Gunlong
Aster Lloyd
Kurika Jungo

One thing that might be worth noting is that due being able to charge up to 100 Rage if you're switched for three turns in a row, choosing a pokemon trainer is a good way to stall for time, although don't let that stop you from choosing Aster or Kurika if you think that's a better option for your character. (Kurika can instantly KO a single target the turn she comes out, barring death immunity, since her 100% OHKO move only costs 50 RP which is the exact amount that everyone starts with.)

Arguments for Sniper:
Since we already got Rachel, we probably don't need Evangaleen for electric attacks, since Renny, Pierce and Charlotte has one too. Calisto honestly seems sub-par to me at this point. So snipers are really up to Wilhelmina and Whitney, either which I support.
Wilhelmina: got a cheap strong gal-tech (50 by herself and 25 with Mirror) and absurdly high power Signature Move that allows her to attack with super high power twice per turn. Not a lot of utility, but when it comes to clearing the field, she is probably the one to go to.
Whitney: Multiple pokemons to help attack and build rage with, pokeshift which combos powerfully with her sniper form, ability to hit targets without worry about weather conditions (we'd probably need Rainy Day to deal with Wildfire safely)... and a plot point with Muon if that really matters (easy to recruit her without any conflict)

Argument for Engineers:
Only 3 choices and only 2 seem useful. (Sorry Heidi) Her stuff is individually powerful, but the other two have better options.
Moon: Several water pokemon to attack with and gain rage along with the water evolith (Rainy Day useful against Wildfire presumably even if Wildfire may not actually be a fire type). Special attacks or special defence bonus. His evoliths won't conflict with Whitney's pokemon unlike Mirror (whose fire evolith's sunny day will cause morale issues) With Rainy Day present, it also combos with Rachel's Thunder attacks. Has a powerful Gal-Tech with Shannon for 100% flinching on 3 foes and harsh dark type damage. If she is on the field at the time, both of them can use it as early as the first turn. ^^
Mirror: VERY cheap Gal-tech with Wilhelmina. (25 points for both if both are on the field) that deals heavy steel damage on 2 foes each time. Dark type evolith has Punishment which deals super damage against those who abuse buff skills. Attack and Defence bonus. (AWESOME with Mollesk who gains 4 stages to the respective stat. Making him a defensive and offensive power house.)

Keep in mind though, that if you guys intend to use Mirror and Wilhelmina's Gal-Tech a lot, Wilhelmina will not get enough rage for her uber Sign Tech. It DOES cost 100 RP.

EDIT: AB! Is there any restriction on how Snipers or Engineer's use their pokemons if they have any, or can they just throw it out on the field while doing their sniping job? Your formation chart doesn't show a section for their pokemons.

Dracorion · 05-25-2010, 05:25 PM

Pierce's pokemon:

Tyranitar (Male)
Ability: Sand Stream
Earthquake/Crunch
Stone Edge/Focus Blast
Protect/Roar
Item: Terra Hammer

Aria Nagarai (Female)
Ability: Drizzle
Draco Meteor/Thunder
Thunder Wave/Dragon Pulse
Extreme Speed/Ice Beam
Item: White Herb

Metagross (Genderless)
Ability: Clear Body
Meteor Mash/Zen Headbutt
Giga Impact/Iron Defense
Item: Metronome

Blaziken (Male)
Ability: Blaze
Flare Blitz/Overheat
Sky Uppercut/Reversal
Item: Expert Belt

Kingdra (Female)
Ability: Sniper
Draco Meteor/Hydro Pump
Blizzard/Dragon Pulse
Item: White Herb

Skarmory (Female)
Ability: Keen Eye
Steel Wing/Night Slash
Drill Peck/Roost
Item: Metronome

Held items: Full Restore, Full Restore, Max Revive.

Menarker · 05-25-2010, 05:27 PM

I guess you're saving your second custom item for when you get Enmakki? No wait, you can only equip them on your leader pokemons, and you already designated Tyrannitar and Arai as your leaders...

Or you just don't want to use it for this mission?

Dracorion · 05-25-2010, 05:29 PM

My other custom item is Aria' Lightning Gun and I'm not pulling it out yet.

For the sake of a joke.

Menarker · 05-25-2010, 05:37 PM

I see.

Oh, and I forgot to choose my 3 items. 1 Max Revive, 1 Full Restore and 1 Rage Rocket! ^^

EDIT: And after careful consideration, I propose that our sniper be Wilhelmina and the engineer be Mirror. In terms of dealing with Wildfire, we already got Aria's Drizzle, one of my pokemon with Rain Dance, Matthias Castform, and Rachel's Sharpedo form among any other means of casting it. While being able to win against Wildfire is cruical, the ability to punch damage in hard and fast will be cruical. The Dusk evolith and Attack boosting device will do that for the party while Wilhelmina builds up rage until she can make shit hit the fan. When dealing with lesser foes, repeated use of Wilhelmina and Mirror's Gal-Tech will knock out or really wound several targets, making the foe's morale gauge plummet.

As for your enforcers, I don't care. If Moon isn't there, then Shannon can't use her Gal-Tech that effectively. So choose whomever you think is best.

05-25-2010, 07:20 AM	#82
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Dante, I don't think you ever told us what your 3rd form was yet. ^^; Are you trying to keep it a secret for now? EDIT: Anyhow, Impact voted on Harriette and Rachel for Shock Trooper and Medic respectively. I already posted my choices several posts back, no disagreement with the two currently selected. I selected Cecilia as my Enforcer btw. Once again though, I'd suggest pairing either Wilhelmina for sniper, Mirror for Engineer (They got a dual tech) or Moon and Evangaleen. (If Moon is the engineer, someone should bring Shannon as their enforcer for a powerful Gal-Tech that costs 40 RP for both of them if they are on the field.) Also for anyone stupid enough to try to romance Wildfire... Beware when engaging in foreplay with mechanical girls. ^,^ I don't know why I can't link pictures directly to this site. They just disappear or refuse to come up properly when I try to link to the pic instead of posting directly. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-25-2010 at 12:26 PM.

05-25-2010, 01:59 PM	#84
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Very powerful offensive choice. Special Attack is equal to Alazakam. Hyper Beam will be your best offensive move due to STAB. Nasty Plot will boost your Special Attack to a large degree. Got a large movepool. And the move Conversion 2 will change your type to a type that is resistant to the last move that hit you. Or alternatively, you can use Conversion so your type is the same as the move that hit you. Good if fighting against fire, water and that sort of thing, but crappy if you tried to use it on a dragon move. ^^; Anyhow, it sounds like a good choice. ^^ EDIT: Set up my pokemon's movesets and items. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-25-2010 at 03:40 PM.

05-25-2010, 04:01 PM	#86
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Ok, so here are our options as follows. Since Impact already stated that Harriette and Rachel would be Shock Trooper and Medic. Snipers: Evangaleen Harris Whitney Calnein Wilhelmina Rustfield (Combos with Mirror) Calisto Bellmond Engineers: Moon Travorian (Combos with Shannon) Mirror Brisholm (Combos with Wilhelmina) Heidi Knoman Enforcers: (Cecilia and Misha already claimed by Renny and Pierce respectively. Impact, Charlotte and Matthias have yet to choose.) Shannon Mordhaus (Combos with Moon) Garus Wilderschmidt Hector Gunlong Aster Lloyd Kurika Jungo One thing that might be worth noting is that due being able to charge up to 100 Rage if you're switched for three turns in a row, choosing a pokemon trainer is a good way to stall for time, although don't let that stop you from choosing Aster or Kurika if you think that's a better option for your character. (Kurika can instantly KO a single target the turn she comes out, barring death immunity, since her 100% OHKO move only costs 50 RP which is the exact amount that everyone starts with.) Arguments for Sniper: Since we already got Rachel, we probably don't need Evangaleen for electric attacks, since Renny, Pierce and Charlotte has one too. Calisto honestly seems sub-par to me at this point. So snipers are really up to Wilhelmina and Whitney, either which I support. Wilhelmina: got a cheap strong gal-tech (50 by herself and 25 with Mirror) and absurdly high power Signature Move that allows her to attack with super high power twice per turn. Not a lot of utility, but when it comes to clearing the field, she is probably the one to go to. Whitney: Multiple pokemons to help attack and build rage with, pokeshift which combos powerfully with her sniper form, ability to hit targets without worry about weather conditions (we'd probably need Rainy Day to deal with Wildfire safely)... and a plot point with Muon if that really matters (easy to recruit her without any conflict) Argument for Engineers: Only 3 choices and only 2 seem useful. (Sorry Heidi) Her stuff is individually powerful, but the other two have better options. Moon: Several water pokemon to attack with and gain rage along with the water evolith (Rainy Day useful against Wildfire presumably even if Wildfire may not actually be a fire type). Special attacks or special defence bonus. His evoliths won't conflict with Whitney's pokemon unlike Mirror (whose fire evolith's sunny day will cause morale issues) With Rainy Day present, it also combos with Rachel's Thunder attacks. Has a powerful Gal-Tech with Shannon for 100% flinching on 3 foes and harsh dark type damage. If she is on the field at the time, both of them can use it as early as the first turn. ^^ Mirror: VERY cheap Gal-tech with Wilhelmina. (25 points for both if both are on the field) that deals heavy steel damage on 2 foes each time. Dark type evolith has Punishment which deals super damage against those who abuse buff skills. Attack and Defence bonus. (AWESOME with Mollesk who gains 4 stages to the respective stat. Making him a defensive and offensive power house.) Keep in mind though, that if you guys intend to use Mirror and Wilhelmina's Gal-Tech a lot, Wilhelmina will not get enough rage for her uber Sign Tech. It DOES cost 100 RP. EDIT: AB! Is there any restriction on how Snipers or Engineer's use their pokemons if they have any, or can they just throw it out on the field while doing their sniping job? Your formation chart doesn't show a section for their pokemons. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-25-2010 at 05:25 PM.

05-25-2010, 05:25 PM	#87
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Pierce's pokemon: Tyranitar (Male) Ability: Sand Stream Earthquake/Crunch Stone Edge/Focus Blast Protect/Roar Item: Terra Hammer Aria Nagarai (Female) Ability: Drizzle Draco Meteor/Thunder Thunder Wave/Dragon Pulse Extreme Speed/Ice Beam Item: White Herb Metagross (Genderless) Ability: Clear Body Meteor Mash/Zen Headbutt Giga Impact/Iron Defense Item: Metronome Blaziken (Male) Ability: Blaze Flare Blitz/Overheat Sky Uppercut/Reversal Item: Expert Belt Kingdra (Female) Ability: Sniper Draco Meteor/Hydro Pump Blizzard/Dragon Pulse Item: White Herb Skarmory (Female) Ability: Keen Eye Steel Wing/Night Slash Drill Peck/Roost Item: Metronome Held items: Full Restore, Full Restore, Max Revive. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-25-2010, 05:27 PM	#88
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I guess you're saving your second custom item for when you get Enmakki? No wait, you can only equip them on your leader pokemons, and you already designated Tyrannitar and Arai as your leaders... Or you just don't want to use it for this mission? __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

05-25-2010, 03:41 AM	#81
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	No, you don't need to know what's going to happen. It's greater than you.

05-25-2010, 01:22 PM	#83
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	Its nothing majorly important so I can spill it. Finally got some actual Firepower. Porygon Z. Still working on appearance but it'll be strange, even for Matt.

05-25-2010, 03:51 PM	#85
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Finish choosing who you want to deploy, but hold out on the formation setup. I'll go ahead and kick off the first battle this afternoon. After you see the first enemy formation, then you can decide how to arrange your team to best employ your advantages. I'm thinking Destroyers will end up with a RP move system. All of their attacks will cost RPs, but they'll build RPs at a faster rate. So, probably about every turn they'll have enough RPs to fire a solid attack, but if you give them additional turns to charge RPs, they can use a much more destructive move. It's going to end up being pretty funny using that SignSeq with Mirror and Wilhelmina. After all, Wilhelmina's a Sniper, but their SignSeq suggests that they're both right there, attacking at melee range. Wilhelmina's going to have to come up with some clever ways to get down to the battlefield quickly and then back.

05-25-2010, 05:29 PM	#89
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	My other custom item is Aria' Lightning Gun and I'm not pulling it out yet. For the sake of a joke. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-25-2010, 05:37 PM	#90
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I see. Oh, and I forgot to choose my 3 items. 1 Max Revive, 1 Full Restore and 1 Rage Rocket! ^^ EDIT: And after careful consideration, I propose that our sniper be Wilhelmina and the engineer be Mirror. In terms of dealing with Wildfire, we already got Aria's Drizzle, one of my pokemon with Rain Dance, Matthias Castform, and Rachel's Sharpedo form among any other means of casting it. While being able to win against Wildfire is cruical, the ability to punch damage in hard and fast will be cruical. The Dusk evolith and Attack boosting device will do that for the party while Wilhelmina builds up rage until she can make shit hit the fan. When dealing with lesser foes, repeated use of Wilhelmina and Mirror's Gal-Tech will knock out or really wound several targets, making the foe's morale gauge plummet. As for your enforcers, I don't care. If Moon isn't there, then Shannon can't use her Gal-Tech that effectively. So choose whomever you think is best. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-25-2010 at 05:46 PM.