Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 1019

**Revising Ocelot** · 02-29-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryong

...So the batterwitch is Feferi I guess.

Not getting your logic. The Batterwitch is the Condesce, one and the same, but she's a Post-Trollscratch Ancestor. This new troll is assumed to be the Pre-Trollscratch version of the Condesce, because of the whole Guardian/Ancestor swap mechanic that happens during a Scratch. Same applies for "NerdMindfang".

If you've forgotten, there's a part in the Doc Scratch segment where he explains how all the Ancestors we know are Scratched versions of another bunch of trolls, which we're presumably being introduced to right now; although they're all supposed to have been completely wiped from existence.

Ryong · 02-29-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

Not getting your logic. The Batterwitch is the Condesce, one and the same, but she's a Post-Trollscratch Ancestor. This new troll is assumed to be the Pre-Trollscratch version of the Condesce, because of the whole Guardian/Ancestor swap mechanic that happens during a Scratch. Same applies for "NerdMindfang".

If you've forgotten, there's a part in the Doc Scratch segment where he explains how all the Ancestors we know are Scratched versions of another bunch of trolls, which we're presumably being introduced to right now; although they're all supposed to have been completely wiped from existence.

I'm now going to try and remember when'd the Condesce get there because I swear I forgot.

Ecks · 02-29-2012, 10:50 AM

Lord English Time Travel Shenanigans

POS Industries · 03-01-2012, 02:07 AM

Hey look it's alpha-Sufferer.

Geminex · 03-01-2012, 04:18 AM

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IMPENETRABLY ASININE RAINBOW FREEFALLS OF FRIVOLOuS BANTER.

I'm aware the thread just got a name change, but this just seems impossibly fitting, so... please?

**Revising Ocelot** · 03-01-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

I'm aware the thread just got a name change, but this just seems impossibly fitting, so... please?

WALLS AND WALLS. OF CANDY ASSED TOOTY FRuITY FuCKING SHIT would work better.

Solid Snake · 03-01-2012, 07:09 AM

Can't wait until Andrew unleashes Hivebent 2.0 upon us in the form of detailed backstory for all twelve of these new immensely important characters

**Revising Ocelot** · 03-01-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Can't wait until Andrew unleashes Hivebent 2.0 upon us in the form of detailed backstory for all twelve of these new immensely important characters

Hey, 14 characters. And I would have thought you'd sympathise so much with uu!

Arcanum · 03-01-2012, 01:51 PM

Crazy theory #9234Xq7Z:

uranianUmbra and undyingUmbrage are actually the same troll, just with a split personality. If UU is a parallel to Calmasis from Rose's Complacency of the Learned, then uranianUmbra would be Calmasis before (s)he went apeshit and murdered the Complacency, and undyingUmbrage would be the murdering psychotic Calmasis.

Also, if UU is the pre-scratch ancestor of Karkat, then the split personality is also reflected in the Sufferer; i.e. how he was kind and trying to unify the trolls and then ended up unleashing the Vast Expletive.

As for undyingUmbrage saying he would go over to Prospit and murder uranianUmbra in her sleep, suggesting that the two UUs are different trolls I suggest the following: Due to the schism between personalities, UU has two dreamselves (like sollux) except the Prospit dreamself is entirely uranianUmbra, while the Derse dreamself is entirely undyingUmbrage. So when uranian is awake on Prospit, undying has control of the main body. And then when undying is awake on Derse, uranian has control of the main body. I'm not 100% sure, but I think last we heard from uranian she said she was going to take a nap and if that's the case then it would help support this theory as well.

Any rebuttals?

Locke cole · 03-01-2012, 02:01 PM

Apparently they're on different planets, though, so this theory could be wrecked by one of them saying stuff about their planet that the other one couldn't know, and then the other one doing the opposite.

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03-01-2012, 07:09 AM	#10187
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Can't wait until Andrew unleashes *Hivebent 2.0* upon us in the form of detailed backstory for all twelve of these new immensely important characters __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

03-01-2012, 01:51 PM	#10189
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	This is what I do instead of studying for midterms. Crazy theory #9234Xq7Z: uranianUmbra and undyingUmbrage are actually the same troll, just with a split personality. If UU is a parallel to Calmasis from Rose's Complacency of the Learned, then uranianUmbra would be Calmasis before (s)he went apeshit and murdered the Complacency, and undyingUmbrage would be the murdering psychotic Calmasis. Also, if UU is the pre-scratch ancestor of Karkat, then the split personality is also reflected in the Sufferer; i.e. how he was kind and trying to unify the trolls and then ended up unleashing the Vast Expletive. As for undyingUmbrage saying he would go over to Prospit and murder uranianUmbra in her sleep, suggesting that the two UUs are different trolls I suggest the following: Due to the schism between personalities, UU has two dreamselves (like sollux) except the Prospit dreamself is entirely uranianUmbra, while the Derse dreamself is entirely undyingUmbrage. So when uranian is awake on Prospit, undying has control of the main body. And then when undying is awake on Derse, uranian has control of the main body. I'm not 100% sure, but I think last we heard from uranian she said she was going to take a nap and if that's the case then it would help support this theory as well. Any rebuttals? __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.