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Unread 03-01-2012, 02:42 PM   #10191
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Apparently they're on different planets, though, so this theory could be wrecked by one of them saying stuff about their planet that the other one couldn't know, and then the other one doing the opposite.
If they're a bifurcated session like the trolls, maybe they both have different halves of the same planet.


All 12 other planets form a circle around the battlefield like in a normal session, but UU and uu are on half of a planet each that just happen to attach to form a single planet, which is positioned 'above' Skaia relative to the ring.
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Unread 03-01-2012, 04:03 PM   #10192
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I think if we see another split personality in Homestuck, it's going to be for a pre-Scratch version of the Grand Highblood. We've seen UU's horns at least, and they're not like any known troll but match her Ophiuchus snake symbol.

That 'tumut' emote probably means undyingUmbrage has t-shaped horns, which together look like a U with a wriggle in the middle like uu's symbol.
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Unread 03-01-2012, 04:28 PM   #10193
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Oh.

I thought that 'tumut' was just a weird word I didn't understand.
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Unread 03-01-2012, 05:29 PM   #10194
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Or, if the Us are the eyes, and the M is the mouth, then the Ts could be him flipping Dirk the double bird.
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Or, if the Us are the eyes, and the M is the mouth, then the Ts could be him flipping Dirk the double bird.
Yeah, that's what it looked more like to me (after I realized it was an emoticon).
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Unread 03-02-2012, 01:53 AM   #10196
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And then Dirk's Denizen was revealed.

Also, UU and uu are going to be in their own session? And now I'm back to not even having a fucking guess as to what might happen. Which is good because for a few moments I was worried I wasn't reading Homestuck.

e- Well okay that's a lie, I do have some guesses, but I'm back to my usual Homestuck mentality of "well let's just see where the fuck this is going before I spout more nonsense in the thread."
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Unread 03-02-2012, 02:01 AM   #10197
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Here's what Wikipedia has to say about Yaldabaoth:

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In the Ophite and Sethian systems, which have many affinities with that last mentioned, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of seven archons, whose names are given, but their chief, “Yaldabaoth” (also known as "Yaltabaoth" or "Ialdabaoth") comes into still greater prominence.

In the Apocryphon of John circa 120-180 AD, the Demiurge arrogantly declares that he has made the world by himself:

Now the archon (ruler) who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas (“fool”), and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, "I am God and there is no other God beside me," for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come.[23]

He is Demiurge and maker of man, but as a ray of light from above enters the body of man and gives him a soul, Yaldabaoth is filled with envy; he tries to limit man's knowledge by forbidding him the fruit of knowledge in paradise. The Demiurge, fearing lest Jesus, whom he had intended as his Messiah, should spread the knowledge of the Supreme God, had him crucified by the Romans. At the consummation of all things all light will return to the Pleroma. But Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge, with the material world, will be cast into the lower depths.
To put it into Dirk's words, Yaldapaoth rules over souls in an arrogant manner.

Or, he's jealous of people having souls, and is really arrogant about it.

It's interesting.
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Unread 03-02-2012, 07:33 AM   #10198
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Don't most Denizens have some kind of interesting mythos relationship to their respective hero's title and aspect anyway? I thought that was the case for space players and Echidna.
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Unread 03-02-2012, 09:06 AM   #10199
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Yeah.

I was just looking for what it was in this case. I think that's it.
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Also, the Denizen relates to Dirk himself in a way:

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The word "demiurge" is an English word from a Latinized form of the Greek ??????????, d?miourgos, literally "public worker", and which was originally a common noun meaning "craftsman" or "artisan", but gradually it came to mean "producer" and eventually "creator".

The philosophical usage and the proper noun derive from Plato's Timaeus, written circa 360 BC, in which the demiurge is presented as the creator of the universe.

Timaeus describes the Demiurge as unreservedly benevolent, and hence desirous of a world as good as possible. The world remains allegedly imperfect, however, because the Demiurge created the world out of a chaotic, indeterminate non-being.
But my favorite part is how it's not totally unrelated to Nepeta.

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