Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 1295

Dracorion · 09-14-2013, 04:03 AM

Well, that was neither heroic nor just.

So maybe she's just effectively incapacitated.

POS Industries · 09-14-2013, 05:08 AM

If Vriska's death counted as just, I think it could be argued that Jade's death would, too. She had been corrupted and had to be killed to keep her from committing more evil. This could very easily be a permadeath situation for her.

Amake · 09-14-2013, 05:59 AM

I'm starting to think the heroic/just thing is so open to the universe's interpretation god tiers will always live or die depending only on if the story needs them alive or dead, and we'll never know if their death counts or not until it's too late to predict anything.

Which is really weird when you think about it. Hussie has created a world where the dramatic element of character deaths is replaced with the dramatic element of character quantum uncertainty death-or-life states. Technically those should be exactly half as dramatic, but the benefit is obviously you can kill-or-not characters over and over as long as you can keep the readers guessing.

So, Jade is for the moment para-dead, and I find that mildly shocking. Undercutting the drama with some much missed Sweet Bro & Hella Jeff is a nice touch too, furthering the confusion of what we're supposed to think.

Locke cole · 09-14-2013, 11:22 AM

It would be a convenient way for Jake to undo Aranea's plan without having to make any difficult decisions about the plan itself.

Bard The 5th LW · 09-14-2013, 12:01 PM

I dont think Hussie USUALLY plays the deaths for laughs when they're permanent, Feferi falling into the horn pile and Equius getting turned on aside. Kanaya getting a SB&HJ joke at least signaled a lack of permanence.

e: I think the better question to ask is how Aranea became telekinetic?

Locke cole · 09-14-2013, 12:26 PM

She's controlling Damaras from beyond the grave.

Same reason she was able to move the ship.

Bard The 5th LW · 09-14-2013, 12:42 PM

Nother question then: How are these Damaras controlling shit from another universe.

Arhra · 09-14-2013, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

Nother question then: How are these Damaras controlling shit from another universe.

With their minds.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 09-14-2013, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

Nother question then: How are these Damaras controlling shit from another universe.

Same way Vriska made Jade sleep? Same way Aranea is controlling them?
Clearly universal boundaries are irrelevant.

Bard The 5th LW · 09-14-2013, 01:38 PM

Ill fully acknowledge this is an arbitrary point of my Suspension of Disbelief failing.

09-14-2013, 04:03 AM	#12941
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Well, that was neither heroic nor just. So maybe she's just effectively incapacitated. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

09-14-2013, 05:08 AM	#12942
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	If Vriska's death counted as just, I think it could be argued that Jade's death would, too. She had been corrupted and had to be killed to keep her from committing more evil. This could very easily be a permadeath situation for her. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

09-14-2013, 05:59 AM	#12943
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	I'm starting to think the heroic/just thing is so open to the universe's interpretation god tiers will always live or die depending only on if the story needs them alive or dead, and we'll never know if their death counts or not until it's too late to predict anything. Which is really weird when you think about it. Hussie has created a world where the dramatic element of character deaths is replaced with the dramatic element of character quantum uncertainty death-or-life states. Technically those should be exactly half as dramatic, but the benefit is obviously you can kill-or-not characters over and over as long as you can keep the readers guessing. So, Jade is for the moment para-dead, and I find that mildly shocking. Undercutting the drama with some much missed Sweet Bro & Hella Jeff is a nice touch too, furthering the confusion of what we're supposed to think. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed

09-14-2013, 12:01 PM	#12945
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	I dont think Hussie USUALLY plays the deaths for laughs when they're permanent, Feferi falling into the horn pile and Equius getting turned on aside. Kanaya getting a SB&HJ joke at least signaled a lack of permanence. e: I think the better question to ask is how Aranea became telekinetic?

09-14-2013, 12:42 PM	#12947
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Nother question then: How are these Damaras controlling shit from another universe.

09-14-2013, 01:38 PM	#12950
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Ill fully acknowledge this is an arbitrary point of my Suspension of Disbelief failing.