Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 233

BitVyper · 11-05-2010, 10:12 PM

I'm pretty sure everything is going to even out after a few scenes and we'll probably see all this stuff mixed in the same way hero mode was.

Also pixel art and sprites are awesome and krylo and POS are stupid and dumb.

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There's a reason videogames don't use sprites anymore.

They don't?

Krylo · 11-05-2010, 10:22 PM

Not unless they're specifically going for a retro feel and aren't trying to tell a salient narrative.

3D models are more prevalent in narrative heavy (and light, for that matter) games because sprites fail to show emotion beyond the comically over the top. They're useless in narrative, and while some people may find some nostalgic value in placing one's own emotions and inflections on top of an emotionless sprite saying emotional things, they still take control away from the creator (again, may be a good thing in some video games).

When you're trying to tell an emotive story, however, and are relying on visual cues to express those emotions, earthbound-esque sprites are crippling.

BitVyper · 11-05-2010, 10:29 PM

So they do.

Aldurin · 11-05-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper

Edit: I think the kernelsprites look much MUCH better in this style.

I have to disagree because of what the image manip squad has made impossible for me (and now you) to unsee.

BitVyper · 11-05-2010, 11:26 PM

Meh, I've been around the internet a time or two. That's pretty tame.

Dracorion · 11-05-2010, 11:27 PM

Goddammit, Earl.

God fucking dammit.

BitVyper · 11-06-2010, 12:05 AM

Art of Hilt · 11-06-2010, 12:50 AM

I'd be a lot more bothered by the Earthbound sprites if they weren't used purely in transition panels that get detailed immediately in the next page.
Otherwise yeah I see where people are coming from.

Marc v4.0 · 11-06-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

There's a reason videogames don't use sprites anymore.

Because they are all lame.

Fifthfiend · 11-06-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Not unless they're specifically going for a retro feel and aren't trying to tell a salient narrative.

3D models are more prevalent in narrative heavy (and light, for that matter) games because sprites fail to show emotion beyond the comically over the top. They're useless in narrative, and while some people may find some nostalgic value in placing one's own emotions and inflections on top of an emotionless sprite saying emotional things, they still take control away from the creator (again, may be a good thing in some video games).

When you're trying to tell an emotive story, however, and are relying on visual cues to express those emotions, earthbound-esque sprites are crippling.

Another demonstration of how impossible it is to convey an emotional narrative without emotive 3d figures: every novel ever written.

EDIT: You know what would be great if it were prevalent in narrative-heavy games? Narratives that aren't rancid dogshit.

11-05-2010, 10:22 PM	#2322
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	But no one cares. This isn't about video games. Not unless they're specifically going for a retro feel and aren't trying to tell a salient narrative. 3D models are more prevalent in narrative heavy (and light, for that matter) games because sprites fail to show emotion beyond the comically over the top. They're useless in narrative, and while some people may find some nostalgic value in placing one's own emotions and inflections on top of an emotionless sprite saying emotional things, they still take control away from the creator (again, may be a good thing in some video games). When you're trying to tell an emotive story, however, and are relying on visual cues to express those emotions, earthbound-esque sprites are crippling. __________________ I am very tired.

11-05-2010, 10:29 PM	#2323
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	So they do. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

11-05-2010, 11:26 PM	#2325
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Meh, I've been around the internet a time or two. That's pretty tame. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

11-05-2010, 11:27 PM	#2326
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Goddammit, Earl. God fucking dammit. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

11-06-2010, 12:05 AM	#2327
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	__________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

11-06-2010, 12:50 AM	#2328
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