Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[Locke cole]

Yeah. Snowman wanted her to "Steal his will", but Vriska really wanted Tavros to be the person who could kill her, so she refused to do that.

He did have a choice. She just really wanted him to choose something other than what he did, and made that desire known.

[Loyal]

Originally Posted by NonCon

That he was able to run away from a girl capable of controlling his mind says pretty much outright that yes he did indeed have a choice. If he didn't she could have stopped him.

There's a certain unknown involved here. Given that her ascension and his fleeing happened very close to each other, it's entirely possible she had finally bled out, followed by his fleeing, followed by or concurrent to her ascension.

We don't know what timeframe the real-to-dreamself wound-delay or the death-to-ascension operates on, so there's wiggle room during which she simply could not have controlled him.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Loyal

We don't know what timeframe the real-to-dreamself wound-delay or the death-to-ascension operates on, so there's wiggle room during which she simply could not have controlled him.

Yes we do.

Their physical body dies, ascension starts nearly immediately.

See: John.

The only time she wouldn't have had to mind control him would have been in the couple of seconds between actual death and actual resurrection, but if she hadn't done it by that point it's pretty obvious she wasn't going to.

Edit: There's no point having Tavros kill her if she's already dead.

FURTHER: If she's making him WRITE she obviously still has control.

[Locke cole]

Originally Posted by Loyal

There's a certain unknown involved here. Given that her ascension and his fleeing happened very close to each other, it's entirely possible she had finally bled out, followed by his fleeing, followed by or concurrent to her ascension.

We don't know what timeframe the real-to-dreamself wound-delay or the death-to-ascension operates on, so there's wiggle room during which she simply could not have controlled him.

It seems a bit more likely that she simply didn't keep him from running. She made that pretty clear to Snowman.

[Premmy]

I imagine she only takes control long enough to make him write, then relinquishes control to let him kill/not kill her. As she dies this becomes less something she's intentionally doing and more just her fading in and out of consciousness.
edit:
As opposed to the idea that she's only exerting a minimal amount of control over him,

[Archbio]

As Hussie said in the formspring As Hussie said in the formspring, the dreamself wounds are delayed.

Then that sure is seamless exposition, as always.

Bleeding to death is painless.

Yes?

I mean, if you're bleeding to death, I'd expect the wounds to provide the actual pain... with the bloodloss resulting in a rather numb or another otherwise unpleasant sensation.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Archbio

Yes?

I mean, if you're bleeding to death, I'd expect the wounds to provide the actual pain... with the bloodloss resulting in a rather numb or another otherwise unpleasant sensation.

At first. However, the lack of blood pressure can really fuck you up, as would the brain slowly shutting down from oxygen (or the troll equivalent) starvation, causing wooziness, light headedness, and a difficulty maintaining rational thought combined with heart palpitations and panic responses going off in what is left of your mind.

It might not exactly be 'painful' but it wouldn't be anything conducive to handling manners in a calm and thought out fashion.

Though it doesn't really matter, as the reason she seemed to get worse as time went on was already explained.

[Archbio]

Though it doesn't really matter, as the reason she seemed to get worse as time went on was already explained.

Hey, it matters. I want to know if I should take painkillers or not if I ever start bleeding massively out of my pores.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Archbio

Hey, it matters. I want to know if I should take painkillers or not if I ever start bleeding massively out of my pores.

Probably not.

[Wigmund]

Oh look, more Vriska-Aizen parallels.