Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 864

BitVyper · 10-30-2011, 03:04 AM

Yeah, I was just saying that he's not with them, since he has to have made it through a portal. We just know pretty much none of his in-session timeline so far. Or how he got in at all, for that matter.

POS Industries · 10-30-2011, 03:07 AM

Apparently the man was just a master transportalizer. Jack and PM both proved that such a feat can be done, so it stands to reason Grandpa moved back and forth the same way.

It's not like he didn't have a heaping helping of uranium lying around all over his house or anything.

BitVyper · 10-30-2011, 03:12 AM

Could be. Of course, he also had a giant spaceship there with him.

Malek · 10-30-2011, 04:26 AM

I think his corpse is in the medium, since it was in Jade's house which entered with her into the medium.

POS Industries · 10-30-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Malek

I think his corpse is in the medium, since it was in Jade's house which entered with her into the medium.

Arcanum · 10-30-2011, 09:13 AM

Best use of that meme so far.

Anyway, as far as the Scratch goes, we know it resets the universe to the factory settings, i.e. right to the absolute start, but some things are changed in order for the eventual Sburb session to progress differently. This is easily inferred from the fact that Pre-Scratch Troll Universe didn't have Doc Scratch, who as a First Guardian was around for billions of years in the Post-Scratch Troll universe.

So it doesn't matter that the kids escape the temporal energy, since when the Scratch is done doing its thing the universe will be at the very beginning of its timeline and the kids won't exist for billions of years. The universe will run its due course, including whatever alterations the Scratch caused, but eventually the kids will be born.

rpgdemon · 10-30-2011, 12:09 PM

The thing is though, the ancestors started remembering who they were, pre-Scratch. This, to me, implies that they were the same people, or at least were in some way the same.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-30-2011, 12:21 PM

The ancestors did have the same powers from their old SGrub game as well, as seen with the Condesce, Darkleer, and possibly the Summoner (God tier wings).

Still, it seems to me that the person doesn't need to be there to be reset.

Arcanum · 10-30-2011, 12:25 PM

Actually it was only The Sufferer who started to remember, and we have no idea how or why. For all we know, him remembering could have been an intended effect of the Scratch in order for the Universe to proceed down its Alpha Timeline.

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Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

The ancestors did have the same powers from their old SGrub game as well, as seen with the Condesce, Darkleer, and possibly the Summoner (God tier wings).

What powers do the Condesce and Darkleer have that they would have gotten from the game?

rpgdemon · 10-30-2011, 12:25 PM

Does that mean we'll have two sets of kids now, who lived the same life/remember their scratched past?

Or, actually, theory. The kids have to actually grow up and live in the Scratched universe, before being the guardians.

The reason I say so is because the scratched kids, if they remember their past, would remember the scratch and then leaving the scratch and getting out. But that never would have happened for them, since they got reset and blaugh it's probably not going to be mentioned since it doesn't really make sense.

I guess they could have the memories of the other kids, despite the other kids having not lived out all the memories yet.

10-30-2011, 03:04 AM	#8631
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Yeah, I was just saying that he's not with them, since he has to have made it through a portal. We just know pretty much none of his in-session timeline so far. Or how he got in at all, for that matter. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

10-30-2011, 03:07 AM	#8632
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Apparently the man was just a master transportalizer. Jack and PM both proved that such a feat can be done, so it stands to reason Grandpa moved back and forth the same way. It's not like he didn't have a heaping helping of uranium lying around all over his house or anything. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

10-30-2011, 03:12 AM	#8633
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Could be. Of course, he also had a giant spaceship there with him. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

10-30-2011, 09:13 AM	#8636
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Best use of that meme so far. Anyway, as far as the Scratch goes, we know it resets the universe to the factory settings, i.e. right to the absolute start, but some things are changed in order for the eventual Sburb session to progress differently. This is easily inferred from the fact that Pre-Scratch Troll Universe didn't have Doc Scratch, who as a First Guardian was around for billions of years in the Post-Scratch Troll universe. So it doesn't matter that the kids escape the temporal energy, since when the Scratch is done doing its thing the universe will be at the very beginning of its timeline and the kids won't exist for billions of years. The universe will run its due course, including whatever alterations the Scratch caused, but eventually the kids will be bornparadox-cloned and sent back in time.

10-30-2011, 12:09 PM	#8637
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	The thing is though, the ancestors started remembering who they were, pre-Scratch. This, to me, implies that they were the same people, or at least were in some way the same. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-30-2011, 04:26 AM	#8634
Malek Shyguy Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 119	I think his corpse is in the medium, since it was in Jade's house which entered with her into the medium.

10-30-2011, 12:21 PM	#8638
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	The ancestors did have the same powers from their old SGrub game as well, as seen with the Condesce, Darkleer, and possibly the Summoner (God tier wings). Still, it seems to me that the person doesn't need to be there to be reset.

10-30-2011, 12:25 PM	#8640
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Does that mean we'll have two sets of kids now, who lived the same life/remember their scratched past? Or, actually, theory. The kids have to actually grow up and live in the Scratched universe, before being the guardians. The reason I say so is because the scratched kids, if they remember their past, would remember the scratch and then leaving the scratch and getting out. But that never would have happened for them, since they got reset and blaugh it's probably not going to be mentioned since it doesn't really make sense. I guess they could have the memories of the other kids, despite the other kids having not lived out all the memories yet. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.