Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 865

Arcanum · 10-30-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Does that mean we'll have two sets of kids now, who lived the same life/remember their scratched past?

Or, actually, theory. The kids have to actually grow up and live in the Scratched universe, before being the guardians.

The reason I say so is because the scratched kids, if they remember their past, would remember the scratch and then leaving the scratch and getting out. But that never would have happened for them, since they got reset and blaugh it's probably not going to be mentioned since it doesn't really make sense.

I guess they could have the memories of the other kids, despite the other kids having not lived out all the memories yet.

Your post confuses me, but yes there will be two sets of kids. Scratch!Kids (who have no recollection of events before the Scratch) and Godtier!Kids (who escaped the Scratch). But nobody post-Scratch will have any memories from before the Scratch, unless there's some exception that shows up like the Sufferer.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-30-2011, 12:33 PM

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What powers do the Condesce and Darkleer have that they would have gotten from the game?

There was a void around Darkleer that allowed him to evade Scratch's omniscience, and the Condece was capable of extending The Helmsman's Lifespan with only a touch. Most of the other ancestor actually relate to the player's titles as well in one way or another. Mindfang was a pirate (a trhief) who was very lucky, Dualscar was royal who stole the hope of children, The Disciple was made a rogue because of who she loves, etc.

Arcanum · 10-30-2011, 12:37 PM

I'd say those are more parallels to the Troll's titles, resulting from psychic abilities (or chance, in the Disciple's case), than clear indication that they received these powers from their pre-scratch game. You're also assuming the Ancestors would have the same titles as their descendants in their pre-scratch game.

rpgdemon · 10-30-2011, 12:38 PM

What I mean is, if one of the scratched kids starts remembering, since the original kids are still their, they will remember things that are yet to happen for the kids, and things that are yet to happen in their universe.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-30-2011, 12:49 PM

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003106

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Originally Posted by DD

Can't overthink this time stuff.

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Originally Posted by dave

TG: the thing with time travel is
TG: you cant overthink it
TG: just roll with it and see what happens
TG: and above all try not to do anything retarded

Marc v4.0 · 10-30-2011, 12:52 PM

Fairly certain it was mentioned that the life-extending power of the Condece was something that the Highest Bloods could just do.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-30-2011, 12:54 PM

Where? Seemed like something only she could do. The other Bluebloods could live a long ass time, but nothing about actually sharing or giving longer lifespans to others.

Arcanum · 10-30-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

What I mean is, if one of the scratched kids starts remembering, since the original kids are still their, they will remember things that are yet to happen for the kids, and things that are yet to happen in their universe.

But the only way they could remember is if the memories of their pre-scratch lives were combined with their post-scratch lives, and the only way that could happen is if they were affected by the scratch, which they weren't. The kids escaped the temporal upheaval so there is no chance that Scratch!Kids could remember anything.

And actually, Doc Scratch said "Since this timeline will undergo such a violent upheaval, such a merger of memory cannot happen." despite knowing that the Sufferer started to remember his pre-scratch life. This leads me to believe even more that the Sufferer regaining his memories was either specifically allowed by the Scratch (so that the Universe would continue on its Alpha timeline) or was caused by some meddling (either by Doc Scratch, or LE, or another of LE's servants) to ensure the proper flow of history.

Marc v4.0 · 10-30-2011, 01:19 PM

Hm, looking back on it, I must have just assumed it or misdisremembered

BitVyper · 10-30-2011, 01:33 PM

No yeah, a lot of the powers we've seen the trolls use seem to be largely their caste powers. Hussie actually stated this on his old formspring at one point too. Of course, having those powers may relate to why someone has the particular role they have. Obviously Gamzee's caste, for instance, are pretty well suited to the role he played. I use Gamzee as an example because he's who Hussie was talking about when he made that statement. Psychic ability, we know, is common among trolls, yet Tavros' particular ability related to his role extremely well.

Trolls in general seem to have caste-related super powers. As for the role-related superpowers, it's kind of hard to say if those are granted by the game or if the powers are part of why you get the role. Timeloop paradox clones and all, so both answers could be true. John certainly demonstrated the breath power in terms of his charisma and being pretty convincing, helping his friends develop their own voices/talents well before the session ever started.

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rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	What I mean is, if one of the scratched kids starts remembering, since the original kids are still their, they will remember things that are yet to happen for the kids, and things that are yet to happen in their universe. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-30-2011, 12:52 PM	#8646
Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	Fairly certain it was mentioned that the life-extending power of the Condece was something that the Highest Bloods could just do. __________________

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Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	Hm, looking back on it, I must have just assumed it or misdisremembered __________________

10-30-2011, 01:33 PM	#8650
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	No yeah, a lot of the powers we've seen the trolls use seem to be largely their caste powers. Hussie actually stated this on his old formspring at one point too. Of course, having those powers may relate to why someone has the particular role they have. Obviously Gamzee's caste, for instance, are pretty well suited to the role he played. I use Gamzee as an example because he's who Hussie was talking about when he made that statement. Psychic ability, we know, is common among trolls, yet Tavros' particular ability related to his role extremely well. Trolls in general seem to have caste-related super powers. As for the role-related superpowers, it's kind of hard to say if those are granted by the game or if the powers are part of why you get the role. Timeloop paradox clones and all, so both answers could be true. John certainly demonstrated the breath power in terms of his charisma and being pretty convincing, helping his friends develop their own voices/talents well before the session ever started. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here. Last edited by BitVyper; 10-30-2011 at 01:36 PM.

10-30-2011, 12:37 PM	#8643
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	I'd say those are more parallels to the Troll's titles, resulting from psychic abilities (or chance, in the Disciple's case), than clear indication that they received these powers from their pre-scratch game. You're also assuming the Ancestors would have the same titles as their descendants in their pre-scratch game.

10-30-2011, 12:54 PM	#8647
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Where? Seemed like something only she could do. The other Bluebloods could live a long ass time, but nothing about actually sharing or giving longer lifespans to others.