Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 1320

POS Industries · 12-11-2014, 06:50 PM

Back in the day, I used to describe Homestuck to people as "LOST, but good."

Now I just say it's LOST.

Solid Snake · 12-12-2014, 01:30 AM

Hahahaha I'm so glad Vriska's intimately involved in this bullshit update that proves my previous point about Hussie meandering around instead of actually doing shit that matters

Flarecobra · 12-15-2014, 11:55 AM

And John just summed up the trolls in a simple statement.

Loyal · 12-15-2014, 05:25 PM

Even in the story, nobody gives a shit about death anymore.[/cynic]

Ryong · 12-15-2014, 08:01 PM

Homestuck is going to end not on a loud honk like Hussie seemingly wanted at some point, but on a tired, unintelligible whisper.

Solid Snake · 12-15-2014, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryong

Homestuck is going to end not on a loud honk like Hussie seemingly wanted at some point, but on a tired, unintelligible whisper.

Hey, now! How couldn't you be thoroughly invested in a story where all the character development and plot twists we've seen over the course of however many years simply will never have happened?

What's hysterical about recent events is that Terezi is actually confirming something worse than Solid Snake's worst fears: The Jade we saw was also in a doomed timeline, but John's actually going to be making even more changes further back into the narrative! It isn't just most of Act Six that'll be irrelevant. My guess is Terezi has John going back into Hivebent. Fucking Hivebent!

'Subtle' changes my ass. This is going to suck, particularly when one of the changes inevitably results in Vriska being alive.

Ryong · 12-15-2014, 10:58 PM

First, he's not "writing himself into needing Retcons". This is what he allegedly planned to do, he's using retcons as part of storytelling. It's a fucking horrible idea, though.

Second, hey, comic book fans deal with retcons all the time, maybe they're used to it by now and wouldn't think much about this. Remember when Peter Parker made a deal with the devil literally trading away his love life and unborn child to revive his extremely old aunt?

And third, listen, I know you hate Vriska, but if anything, for a long time now, Meenah has been leading Vriska around to do stuff. I'm also not entirely sure why would you - or anyone, for the matter - care about someone being alive or dead at this point. Convoluted plot bullshit has made the concept of dying pretty much meaningless - imagine if on Problem Sleuth every time a character died Death would show up and start trying to get them to enter the door to afterlife, without being forceful. Homestuck has hit this point years ago.

Bard The 5th LW · 12-15-2014, 11:12 PM

Like, it was interesting when we had short term retcons that played with our expectations, like the glimpse into Davesprite's timeline or the fakeout where Jack annihilated the meteor in Terezi's vision, but its just pretty cheapening to see large sections of the plot and conflict nullified by literal retcons? The more and more it happens, the harder it is to convince me it was actually planned in any way, especially since the thing that gave John the retcon power came essentially out of nowhere. Like, there wasn't any real build-up or foreshadowing to it, it just happened.

Ryong · 12-15-2014, 11:16 PM

I'm more willing to call Hussie a hack with a terrible sense of "is this a good idea?" instead of a hack that can't plan ahead.

Flarecobra · 12-17-2014, 12:52 AM

Hellooooo Filler!

12-11-2014, 06:50 PM	#13191
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Back in the day, I used to describe Homestuck to people as "LOST, but good." Now I just say it's LOST. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

12-12-2014, 01:30 AM	#13192
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Hahahaha I'm so glad Vriska's intimately involved in this bullshit update that proves my previous point about Hussie meandering around instead of actually doing shit that matters __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

12-15-2014, 11:55 AM	#13193
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	And John just summed up the trolls in a simple statement. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

12-17-2014, 12:52 AM	#13200
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	Hellooooo Filler! __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

12-15-2014, 08:01 PM	#13195
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Homestuck is going to end not on a loud honk like Hussie seemingly wanted at some point, but on a tired, unintelligible whisper.

12-15-2014, 10:58 PM	#13197
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	First, he's not "writing himself into needing Retcons". This is what he allegedly planned to do, he's using retcons as part of storytelling. It's a fucking horrible idea, though. Second, hey, comic book fans deal with retcons all the time, maybe they're used to it by now and wouldn't think much about this. Remember when Peter Parker made a deal with the devil literally trading away his love life and unborn child to revive his extremely old aunt? And third, listen, I know you hate Vriska, but if anything, for a long time now, Meenah has been leading Vriska around to do stuff. I'm also not entirely sure why would you - or anyone, for the matter - care about someone being alive or dead at this point. Convoluted plot bullshit has made the concept of dying pretty much meaningless - imagine if on Problem Sleuth every time a character died Death would show up and start trying to get them to enter the door to afterlife, without being forceful. Homestuck has hit this point years ago.

12-15-2014, 11:12 PM	#13198
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Like, it was interesting when we had short term retcons that played with our expectations, like the glimpse into Davesprite's timeline or the fakeout where Jack annihilated the meteor in Terezi's vision, but its just pretty cheapening to see large sections of the plot and conflict nullified by literal retcons? The more and more it happens, the harder it is to convince me it was actually planned in any way, especially since the thing that gave John the retcon power came essentially out of nowhere. Like, there wasn't any real build-up or foreshadowing to it, it just happened.

12-15-2014, 11:16 PM	#13199
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	I'm more willing to call Hussie a hack with a terrible sense of "is this a good idea?" instead of a hack that can't plan ahead.