Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 288

Aldurin · 12-02-2010, 05:56 PM

Vriska is awesome, and everyone who says otherwise is delusioned or abuse their free will.

She obviously orchestrates Bro's survival too, whether directly or indirectly, to have an ally for the final fight. Davesprite is still dead, mostly since he functioned as an extra Dave with wings.

I wanna see John do the windy thing too.

Geminex · 12-02-2010, 06:00 PM

I was more going along the lines of time paradoxes, rather than free will, but... nyaaah. Perhaps we'll get some psycho-analysis from Rose later on. That'd be fun. Until then, I'm gonna go on judging her for the decisions she makes, provided they're free decisions.

Edit: No, Drac's right. I just re-read it. She saw he was going to be created, so she decided to go ahead and create him. And while that still leaves the question what would've happened if she hadn't acted the way she did (or whether it was even possible for her to decide differently), she made a choice. She didn't know she was going to make this choice, didn't know it was destined, even if it may well have been! She chose to do this. Ergo, despicable.

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In the map, "He is already here" is this act's 'title'. This mantra will be the act's alpha and omega.

Oh, yeah. Didn't see that! Huh. The question is, who is 'he' referring to? Jack? Lord English? Is there a difference? Bluh.
We had better get some answers. Or I will whine SO HARD.

And bluh. Y'see what else is in the map? Import U1 for part 1, Import U2 for part 2. I'm suddenly tempted to try to make sense of Sollux' code again. Because the two universes he imported were obviously the kids' and the trolls' respectively. And since ATH's conditions are linked to death...

Let's see here...

Dracorion · 12-02-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

And bluh. Y'see what else is in the map? Import U1 for part 1, Import U2 for part 2. I'm suddenly tempted to try to make sense of Sollux' code again. Because the two universes he imported were obviously the kids' and the trolls' respectively. And since ATH's conditions are linked to death...

Let's see here...

I'll tell you what it means.

It means Snowman and one of the Kids' Exiles, possibly the White Queen, are doomed.

Geminex · 12-02-2010, 06:29 PM

Huh. Elaborate? Like, I get how you could reach that conclusion, but I dunno.

Locke cole · 12-02-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

I mean, did she really have much of a choice? She knew what her actions were going to be. She could have rejected that, but only to create a time paradox and/or doomed timeline. She's a terrible person, but if John had been in her place, how would he have acted?

I got a different impression there. I figured that she, knowing that Jack was going to come to their universe, chose to be the one to bring him about. Yes, she was predestined to do that, but I'm not sure if she looked at any such "spoilers" to that effect. She just wanted to be responsible for both the creation and destruction of Beck Noir.

Dracorion · 12-02-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Huh. Elaborate? Like, I get how you could reach that conclusion, but I dunno.

Hm.

Looking back, I seem to have got the code that summons the demon confused with the code that Karkat ran that killed all the Trolls' lusii.

Still, the latter code was said to affect Karkat, his friends, and everyone they ever meet, so I'm going to posit the theory that the Kids' guardians are all going to die. Probably the sprites, too.

Anyway, for the demon-summoning code to execute the Trolls' universe has to die, and that universe is or will be inhabitted by the Felt and the Midnight Crew. Spades Slick said that if Snowman dies then the universe dies. Therefore, Snowman's going to die.

Bard The 5th LW · 12-02-2010, 07:16 PM

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Anyway, for the demon-summoning code to execute the Trolls' universe has to die, and that universe is or will be inhabitted by the Felt and the Midnight Crew. Spades Slick said that if Snowman dies then the universe dies. Therefore, Snowman's going to die.

That part is pretty clear. I think the question was why the White Queen would die.

Dracorion · 12-02-2010, 07:18 PM

Oh, she wouldn't. I was confused.

I confused the Demon summoning code, which involves one universe, with the code Karkat ran, which involves both.

The logic being that if the Trolls' have one Exile whose death means the destruction of the universe, the Kids would too.

EDIT: IT'S THE WINDY THING

PCD · 12-02-2010, 08:09 PM

WINDY THINNNNNNG

Also new album whooooa

Premmy · 12-02-2010, 08:25 PM

OH SNAPS THE FELTY THING, ya'll.

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Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Vriska is awesome, and everyone who says otherwise is delusioned or abuse their free will. She obviously orchestrates Bro's survival too, whether directly or indirectly, to have an ally for the final fight. Davesprite is still dead, mostly since he functioned as an extra Dave with wings. I wanna see John do the windy thing too.

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Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Huh. Elaborate? Like, I get how you could reach that conclusion, but I dunno.