Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

This thread is now an intervention for Wigmund's out of control TVTropes binging.

We're not judging you Wiggles. We just want to help

I assumed it was a link to the MST3K opening, which would have been cooler and more apropos, but since I've seen it a million times, I didn't click on it.

I'm going to keep assuming that anyway, and continue not clicking on it, because it makes my little world I live in that much better.

[Wigmund]

You mean my link was something other than a link to the Season 10 version of the MST3K opening?

Goddamn, you guys are insane.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I'm under the impression that Terezi flipped the coin, and told one Dave the truth about the flip. This is the Dave we've been following, or Alpha Dave.

She then proceeded to go back to that same point and lie about it to Dave. This caused a paradox offshoot and is the doomed Dave.

Edit: I have assembled a guide. It probably serves no purpose since its either old news/explains nothing.

It was fun though.

Time Travel Tutorial Episode 1! Offshoots and DOOOOOOM

[Aldurin]

I still don't get it.

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by BardTheFifthLightWarrior

She then proceeded to go back to that same point and lie about it to Dave. This caused a paradox offshoot and is the doomed Dave.

No, she couldn't have done that because there wasn't a second Dave for her to go back and lie to. All that would have happened was that the same Dave would have gotten trolled by two different Terezis.

The only really irrelevant thing here is the coin flip itself. Terezi flipped a coin and then left it up to Dave to decide what the flip meant. Which basically means that she told Dave to choose to do one of two things and then flipped a coin for no reason like a dink. In the alpha timeline, Dave chose to do nothing. In the other, Dave chose to go back in time to a point on the alpha timeline, creating a second Dave who was then instructed by Terezi to go to sleep on the questbed.

[Loyal]

Originally Posted by Wigmund

There's nothing wrong with being addicted to TVTropes...
I mean, look at all this awesome stuff in the Homestuck entry.

Man, fuck the Homestuck entry. Every time Andrew posts an update people climb over each other trying to be the first to tie the latest comic to a trope that doesn't actually apply to it, and I end up spending hours combing over each of the sub-pages (which split into yet more sub-subpages, because the subpages themselves got that damn huge and broke the server) trying to un-shittify the entries.

I mean at this point the Homestuck page exists for the benefit of the people who write the fucking thing more than anyone who would actually read it (which is to say, nobody at all, because who wants to spend that much time reading that much horseshit?).

[Geminex]

Originally Posted by Aldurin

I still don't get it.

I CAN'T HEEEEAR YOUUU

I kinda get it. Terezi creates a doomed timeline by way of the coin toss (and I do think the coin toss factors into it), where one of the options she gives Dave is one that creates a time paradox and would, theoretically, stop the coin toss from taking place in the first place (because offspring future Dave would be sleeping, rather the helping alpha past dave) Offspring Dave travels back in time to before the timeline split. As an individul, he's still doomed, but he's in the subjective past, and is influencing the future. In this case, by demonstrating very clearly to Dave what exactly he'd need to do.

And Fifth made a point about how there aren't any other offshoot Daves travelling back in time...
I'm guessing that, once the trolls come into play, they prevent the kids from creating any more offshoot timelines.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that offshoot timelines can be created only by time travel, or by troll interference. I don't have much evidence for that, but that's the only two ways it's happened so far.

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Geminex

And Fifth made a point about how there aren't any other offshoot Daves travelling back in time...

As I said, I think it's to be assumed that the vast majority of alternate timelines don't involve a Dave showing up on the alpha timeline.

[Dracorion]

Goddammit Gem why would you link to that horrible thread?

[Geminex]

As I said, I think it's to be assumed that the vast majority of alternate timelines don't involve a Dave showing up on the alpha timeline.

Hmm... different points, really.
I'm saying that there's a pretty major limit to timelines. You're saying that when timelines come to exist, they don't interfere with the past. Different points. They're not mutually exclusive, though.

Goddammit Gem why would you link to that horrible thread?

Spite.

Now, excuse me, I have chatlogs to write and strategies to work out.