Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[synkr0nized]

All I was saying is that I don't think someone becoming a vampire matters to Trollian's ability to show you future shit, in response to the post I quoted. Rose and what she's doing, on the other hand...



How much of all this stuff will end up being cultivated and influenced by the noodly appendages of the horroterrors?

[Specterbane]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...It's strange how Jade and Rose have kind of swapped places though; it used to feel as if Jade was the most underdeveloped of the four kids, and now it feels like Jade's being more fully fleshed out (through frequent interactions with Dave and Karkat, her entry into the medium, Jack's newfound Bec-infused love for her, etc.) while Rose really hasn't done anything of consequence, or even really spoken to anyone as of late.

I miss her flirty banter with John and/or Kanaya.

It's kind of true that Jade took a more center stage as Rose seemed to take a smaller one, but we've never seen everything Rose was doing just like we've never seen everything Dave's doing. I think Hussie said some things as to why in the old Forumspring, but that was so cluttered with bull shit and so long ago that I can't remember. But Rose and Dave were always meant to be a little mysterious it seems, while Jade was just asleep.

Sadly though, we probably aren't going to see more of Rose until she gets the Tumor from John. Which needs we need more time with the kids and less of this Troll drama.

[Loyal]

UPDATE:

Huh. I wonder where Droog got ahold of that.

[Aldurin]

That's one wild card that's appeared again. Now where's Jade's Grandpa?

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...It's strange how Jade and Rose have kind of swapped places though; it used to feel as if Jade was the most underdeveloped of the four kids, and now it feels like Jade's being more fully fleshed out (through frequent interactions with Dave and Karkat, her entry into the medium, Jack's newfound Bec-infused love for her, etc.) while Rose really hasn't done anything of consequence, or even really spoken to anyone as of late.

I miss her flirty banter with John and/or Kanaya.

The main reason for this is that Jade is the only one of the kids to get any sort of significant character development this act, and that's only because she needed to catch up with the others in that regard after mostly just sleeping through the previous four acts. Beyond that, the kids have really done little more than be sounding boards for the trolls, as this act has pretty much decidedly been the trolls' story.

And even still, despite being more subdued about it, Rose really has developed quite a bit during this act. Much of the reason Rose was interested in playing Sburb in the first place was due to Jade's prediction that it would allow her to bring back Jaspers, and in this act she's been shown to become able to let go of the past in a way she previously couldn't, and allowed the dead cat that she'd until then kept enshrined in a mausoleum to finally be free. She's more focused on moving forward than looking backward, and she's become more able to let herself go and actually have a good time with what she's doing, by her own admission. She's having fun, which appears to be an altogether new experience for her.

Of course, she's also developed some arguably negative qualities and her new take on life is likely leading her toward some serious trouble, but honestly they're all in some pretty deep shit anyway so whatever happens will probably be pretty par for the course, really.

I'd at least honestly still put her around even with Dave for character development in act 5, and both of them are above John in that regard. Sure, he's arguably had the most to do with furthering the plot of all the kids during this act but, if you'll notice, the only ones who've been developing as characters in any of his conversations have been Vriska, Karkat, and Rose. He's still pretty much the same old John, except a little more concerned with how he should be dealing with girls now.

[Donomni]

You know, if you aren't Jade or have Weird Time Shit, the most effective weapon against Jack could actually be a newspaper. Or a spray-bottle of water, I suppose.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

I'd at least honestly still put her around even with Dave for character development in act 5, and both of them are above John in that regard. Sure, he's arguably had the most to do with furthering the plot of all the kids during this act but, if you'll notice, the only ones who've been developing as characters in any of his conversations have been Vriska, Karkat, and Rose. He's still pretty much the same old John, except a little more concerned with how he should be dealing with girls now.

...I'm really 0kay with that, though; I don't feel like John has to mature or change his outlook, and I like him quite well enough as is. >.>
Yeah it's kind of weird to argue against character development for someone, but as Dave noted in a previous convo, John's sort of the group's constant. For him to become moody or sullen or cynical would basically destroy Homestuck for me.

I guess the nature of the bifurcated Act structure led me to believe that Act 5 Part 2 would be more about the kids, to counterbalance Alterniabound, which was 100% trolls. I am enjoying the troll shenanigans but I just wish there was more kids development to counterbalance it. Which, strangely enough, I suppose means that I'm arguing for Act 5 to be even longer. Perhaps a more appropriate way to put it is that Hussie should have abandoned his seven-act structure, further divided Act 5 Part 2, and given Rose and Dave something more to do, even if it really was just more vague allusions to a future plan we can't know much about yet.

I've really enjoyed this Jack Noir segway, though. Nice to see his perspective.

[Aldurin]

Originally Posted by Donomni

You know, if you aren't Jade or have Weird Time Shit, the most effective weapon against Jack could actually be a newspaper. Or a spray-bottle of water, I suppose.

I thought and alchemiter glitched to make a billion bones per minute would be more effective.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...I'm really 0kay with that, though; I don't feel like John has to mature or change his outlook, and I like him quite well enough as is. >.>
Yeah it's kind of weird to argue against character development for someone, but as Dave noted in a previous convo, John's sort of the group's constant. For him to become moody or sullen or cynical would basically destroy Homestuck for me.

I think there's too much emphasis on character development in media today truth be told, I always thought of the development of a character as conflicts in the pursuit of happiness. But in cases like John he's already pretty happy, and he's not making anyone else around him miserable with it, so there's really no reason for him to change.
Thats' my take on it anyway.

Also I can't help but wonder how Troll session Jack might feel about the Kid's version.

[mauve]

Troll session Jack

Wasn't Terezi planning to kill him? Snowman told her to do it, if I remember correctly.