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Unread 02-22-2011, 07:30 PM   #6041
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Wasn't Terezi planning to kill him? Snowman told her to do it, if I remember correctly.
I think she told him to exile Jack, not kill.

Either way, he was exiled and became Spades Slick.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 07:53 PM   #6042
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I see some green blood on Jack's sword, looks a little too dark to be Kanaya's though, but Nepeta's dead (or thought to be). Different Species?
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Unread 02-22-2011, 07:57 PM   #6043
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That blood is from when he killed dream Nepeta.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 08:16 PM   #6044
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Sorry to change the subject on a whim, but i realized something earlier, and i was wondering whether or not this would be true.

Rose is planning to travel to the Green Sun and destroy (?) it with her dreamself, but..... If Jack Noir destroyed Derse and Prospit, would she even still have a dreamself with which to carry on said plan? Or do the trolls and humans have separate planets meaning he only destroyed the troll derse and prospit?

Edit: Also, How did Jack get back into the humans game? I thought The Scratch took him to the troll game, and that was it? Or did the scratch just kind of leave a permanent portal? Or is it his guardian powers? :l
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Unread 02-22-2011, 08:24 PM   #6045
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Sorry to change the subject on a whim, but i realized something earlier, and i was wondering whether or not this would be true.

Rose is planning to travel to the Green Sun and destroy (?) it with her dreamself, but..... If Jack Noir destroyed Derse and Prospit, would she even still have a dreamself with which to carry on said plan? Or do the trolls and humans have separate planets meaning he only destroyed the troll derse and prospit?

Edit: Also, How did Jack get back into the humans game? I thought The Scratch took him to the troll game, and that was it? Or did the scratch just kind of leave a permanent portal? Or is it his guardian powers? :l
Yes, Jack only destroyed the Troll's Derse and Prospit. Each session is distinct from another. See where Karkat talks to John about how there are two different Jacks.

And, to answer the second question. Jack didn't get back to the Kids session, at least not as we've yet seen. From what we know it's pretty well concluded that the scratch hasn't happened yet in the Kid's session and Jack hasn't traveled to the Troll's session from it. Hence why Troll's (Bec)Jack has a bloody arm and Kid's (Bec)Jack doesn't.

EDIT: Also, UPDATE!
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Unread 02-22-2011, 08:43 PM   #6046
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...I'm really 0kay with that, though; I don't feel like John has to mature or change his outlook, and I like him quite well enough as is. >.>
Yeah it's kind of weird to argue against character development for someone, but as Dave noted in a previous convo, John's sort of the group's constant. For him to become moody or sullen or cynical would basically destroy Homestuck for me.
IDK that change or maturity necessarily have to mean sullenness or cynicism.

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I guess the nature of the bifurcated Act structure led me to believe that Act 5 Part 2 would be more about the kids,
Yeah I think this is one more thing I didn't really enjoy about the big murderfest derail, cause up to that it had still felt pretty focused on the kids and whatever the big Plan To Get Jack was/is supposed to be.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 08:46 PM   #6047
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Hmm I thought that Dave's and Aradia's time manipulation differed in that she manipulated it while he cruised through it. Guess I was wrong.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 08:52 PM   #6049
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...did she jump into his Bec-green-shit somehow?
I mean I may just be over-analyzing a .gif file, but that could have neat results.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 08:53 PM   #6050
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Iiiiit looks like she phased right through him.

I'm thinking Rose's dreamself is safe prior to green sun shenanigans, barring teleport-murder. Jack's agents are still on Derse, and it seems he at least intends to rule that planet in the queen's stead.

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Hmm I thought that Dave's and Aradia's time manipulation differed in that she manipulated it while he cruised through it. Guess I was wrong.
You remember the literally thousands of Aradia-bots, right?
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