Shooting at the Holocaust Museum (Now with Global Warming)

[Mr.Bookworm]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/...ing/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8094076.stm

Abridged version: An 88 year-old white supremacist came in and started shooting at the security guards. He hit one of them, and they returned fire and hit him. They both got taken to the hospital, and the building was evacuated.

The security guard apparently just died.

Motherfucker.

[Lady Cygnet]

What the hell? What was Mr. 88-year-old white supremacist trying to prove anyway?

My heart goes out to the family of the slain guard. He died with honor, protecting those who had come to learn about one of the most horrific events in human history.

[Rejected Again]

Tha old guy was an ass hat. To do something like that at the Holocaust Museum. My condolences the the family of the guard and my honest hope that that old jerk goes to that special part of hell for rapists, murders, and people who talk during a movie!

[Fifthfiend]

Jesus this is like the second one of these in two weeks, and the third since Bamma came into office?

[Wigmund]

This is a horrific event and I hate myself for what I'm gonna diverge into now because it relates to this tragedy as. But wasn't this what Homeland Security was talking about when they released that report about watching right-wing crazies?
DHS Report on Right-wing Extremism

Originally Posted by DHS Report

(U//FOUO) Lone Wolves and Small Terrorist Cells
(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent right-wing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States. Information from law enforcement and nongovernmental organizations indicates lone wolves and small terrorist cells have shown intent—and, in some cases, the capability—to commit violent acts.
— (U//LES) DHS/I&A has concluded that white supremacist lone wolves pose the most significant domestic terrorist threat because of their low profile and autonomy—separate from any formalized group—which hampers warning efforts.
— (U//FOUO) Similarly, recent state and municipal law enforcement reporting has warned of the dangers of right-wing extremists embracing the tactics of “leaderless resistance” and of lone wolves carrying out acts of violence.
— (U//FOUO) Arrests in the past several years of radical militia members in Alabama, Arkansas, and Pennsylvania on firearms, explosives, and other related violations indicates the emergence of small, well-armed extremist groups in some rural areas.

And apparently Fox New's Shepard Smith agrees.

[Jagos]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Jesus this is like the second one of these in two weeks, and the third since Bamma came into office?

Honestly, would we have heard about this during the Bush administration?

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Jagos

Honestly, would we have heard about this during the Bush administration?

I'm pretty sure when that first sniper killing in the DC area happened we heard about it pretty much everywhere.

And again the thing that stands out for me among this, abortionist-shooter and that one guy in philadelphia who did the police station killing is that they are all motivated to varying degrees by basically the simple fact that a 1. black 2. (nominal) liberal is in the white house.

Which wouldn't be s'bad if once again we weren't seeing this message where I guess terrorism is I guess kind of okay if you're an angry right-wing white dude whereas this guy does basically the same thing and gets charged for fifteen terrorisms.

This is seriously looking a little bit like back in the day when the FBI used to go "Oh what's that a Klan killing? Durper durr we don't know nuffin bout dat" *puts hand in pants* *jerks dick*

Glenn Beck: Libs blame conservatives for crazy shooter...again
Rush Limbaugh: Hate-Promoting Left Seizes Chance to Falsely Blame Right for Violence

I'm seriously glad sometimes that the internet came up with trolling so I know how to characterize shit like this.

[Azisien]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Which wouldn't be s'bad if once again we weren't seeing this message where I guess terrorism is I guess kind of okay if you're an angry right-wing white dude whereas this guy does basically the same thing and gets charged for fifteen terrorisms.

This is seriously looking a little bit like back in the day when the FBI used to go "Oh what's that a Klan killing? Durper durr we don't know nuffin bout dat" *puts hand in pants* *jerks dick*

If the circumstances were slightly different I would be inclined to agree with you. Let me pause for a brief moment to mention that I'm speaking based on how I think this would go down in a Canadian court, but I'll take a leap of faith and say that's not drastically different from an American court.

Anyway, he's 88 years old. And he's charged with murder. He's got neo-Nazi connections for most of his life. There's no point wasting tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars charging him with 15 counts of anything, one charge of murder and that's it, he's in jail for the rest of his life.

The dude in the article you linked is 23 years old. And I only read that one article but, based on the details given in it, I won't lose any sleep if he's in jail for the rest of his life.

This doesn't excuse the stereotype corporate white guy doing cocaine and smashing head-on into a black family's mini-van, killing them all and paralyzing the youngest one for life, while he gets away with whiplash and 2 years in prison. Meanwhile black kid has half a joint on him and gets 20 years. Yeah that's retarded. But this case? A non-issue.

What really gets me about this shooting is, according to the few articles I wrote, the security guard that died was holding the damn door open for von Brunn. Like, fuck.

[shiney]

I was about to post basically exactly what Wigmund did. To expand instead, Rush, O'Reilly, Beck et al are making this country less safe by purposefully inflaming these wackos and then claiming it's just entertainment, or it's just opinion, or that these guys are crazy and they had nothing to do with it. It has nothing to do with partisan politics though - granted they want the downfall of the democratic party but essentially this is about lining their pockets at the expense of the safety of the public.

This was a horrible tragedy and I regret this happened, but it was to be expected with folks like them fanning the flames.

'Fore someone gets all up in my fries about taking this thread somewhat off-course, let's be honest and all admit this is pretty much exactly where it was going to go anyways. Everyone probably feels awful that this security guard died, but beyond a "damn that sucks" circle-jerk there's not a lot of room for discussion of that particular topic.

[Wigmund]

A Neo-Nazi shooting up the Holocaust Museum would be big news even during the Bush Administration. It's just that it'd be a one-or-two day blurb before the talking heads would go back to talking about the Army recruiters being shot in Little Rock, how it shows that Al Qaeda is in America recruiting kids from the ghetto, how we need to have Homeland Security watch more Muslims and leftists and definitely not groups like the Neo-Nazis or Ku Klux Klan.

Originally Posted by shiney

To expand instead, Rush, O'Reilly, Beck et al are making this country less safe by purposefully inflaming these wackos and then claiming it's just entertainment, or it's just opinion, or that these guys are crazy and they had nothing to do with it. It has nothing to do with partisan politics though - granted they want the downfall of the democratic party but essentially this is about lining their pockets at the expense of the safety of the public.

Glenn Beck: Libs blame conservatives for crazy shooter...again
Rush Limbaugh: Hate-Promoting Left Seizes Chance to Falsely Blame Right for Violence

I'd say something, but I need to lie down and stop my pounding headache from reading those twits.