Fullmetal Alchemist

Lithp · 05-05-2010, 01:42 AM

I'm not sure what's with translation companies irritating the crap out of me recently, but since Viz Media can't do in several months what a bunch of random nerds on the internet can do in about a week, I decided to start watching subbed episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood again.

I can't believe what I've been missing out on! Al's battle with Pride was absolutely awesome. Envy's death was surprisingly gut-wrenching. And I hear that it gets even crazier pretty soon.

I'm already at least a whole volume past what I was at before. My only concern is that this might dampen my excitement to get the volumes when they finally DO come out.

In any case, is anyone else a fan of this awesome series? Personally, I prefer the 1st anime (I'm just weird like that), but the manga definitely has its strengths.

Kim · 05-05-2010, 01:50 AM

I'm liking Brotherhood more than the original, just because I feel it's drawing to a close much better. The original anime handled the beginning much better, but I just don't feel the ending was nearly as strong.

Naqel · 05-05-2010, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

The original anime handled the beginning much better, but I just don't feel the ending was nearly as strong.

That's probably cause the second anime tried to avoid repeating something their target audience has already seen, they just rushed through it for those who might actually have their first contact with FMA in this series.

Premmy · 05-05-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Naqel

That's probably cause the second anime tried to avoid repeating something their target audience has already seen, they just rushed through it for those who might actually have their first contact with FMA in this series.

Doesn't make it Good writing.

Kyanbu The Legend · 05-05-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lithp

I'm not sure what's with translation companies irritating the crap out of me recently, but since Viz Media can't do in several months what a bunch of random nerds on the internet can do in about a week, I decided to start watching subbed episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood again.

I can't believe what I've been missing out on! Al's battle with Pride was absolutely awesome. Envy's death was surprisingly gut-wrenching. And I hear that it gets even crazier pretty soon.

I'm already at least a whole volume past what I was at before. My only concern is that this might dampen my excitement to get the volumes when they finally DO come out.

In any case, is anyone else a fan of this awesome series? Personally, I prefer the 1st anime (I'm just weird like that), but the manga definitely has its strengths.

It should be noted that Viz's problem regarding bleach may be more aimed at the Japanese animation studio in charge of bleach. Since they seem to have issues with Viz personally.

FMA BH dub is safe though since Funimation has a pretty good rep now. And AS is in love with it.

I'm up to the most recent chapter of the manga. Watched every dub Episode for both FMA and FMA BH. But I haven't watched the subs yet (despite it being one of the few legal free stream subs thanks to funimation).

Lithp · 05-05-2010, 02:22 AM

I can kind of see that, NonCon. I think that the 1st anime was anticlimactic to an extent, because the focus was never meant to be on the fighting. And a lot of people didn't like the plot device regarding the Gate.

To me, that kinda made sense. I mean, Gates traditionally GO somewhere.

In any case, I consider the manga's biggest strength to be the fact that it goes far more in-depth, while the anime gave us more development with the Homunculi.

As to the actual 2nd anime itself, it's been irritating me for some time, because I've felt that the animators were being cheap &/or lazy. Envy's true form, for example, is SO much more detailed in the manga, & it's hinted that it moves a lot more. Now that I've seen the recent episodes, though, I suspect that they've been saving up for the end, so I'm cool.

Except that Envy's mouth reminds me of Teeth.

Kyanbu: My problem with FMA's translation is actually the mangas, not the dub. I was told recently that Vol. 23 would be out on April 20th. I went to Barnes & Noble on that day & was told that the release date was actually JUNE 20th. I don't know whether the clerk made an error or if the date was pushed back, but either way, that's ridiculous. It's ALREADY behind schedule. From what I've seen, other series are about the same story.

I kinda tried putting myself in their shoes, but every single argument I could come up with to explain this was undermined by the fact that fanslation sites can actually stick to a schedule, so a whole company should be able to do it, too.

Eltargrim · 05-09-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lithp

As to the actual 2nd anime itself, it's been irritating me for some time, because I've felt that the animators were being cheap &/or lazy. Envy's true form, for example, is SO much more detailed in the manga, & it's hinted that it moves a lot more. Now that I've seen the recent episodes, though, I suspect that they've been saving up for the end, so I'm cool.

I'm pretty astounded with the animation in Brotherhood; Bones is pushing out some of the most fluid animation we've seen in, well, ever.

I mean, feel free to criticize the content, but the animation has been bang-on since day 1.

As for translation delays; editors are duuuumb, and publishing a .png is easier than publishing a book. That one mistranslation, though; that's wacky. I mean, lolwut?

Kim · 05-05-2010, 10:40 AM

I'm pretty sure episode 55 is The Best Thing Ever. Armstrong brofist!

Magus · 05-05-2010, 06:43 PM

I quit buying the American translated manga after I read that they translated Xerxes as "Cselkciss" in later volumes, cause I can't take that level of ineptitude. Confirm or deny this tidbit for me.

If you're going to go ahead and watch subbed versions of FMA BH you might as well read scanlations of the manga online, you can always buy the American volumes when they come out. I don't think the FBI is going to rappel through your windows for viewing open websites that don't even require you to download anything. OR WILL THEY?

Yes, the second anime's beginning is rushed. Maybe some kind of omni-version will eventually be released that intersperses episodes from the first anime into the series, while avoiding episodes involving, say, Majhal. Battle on the Train, for example.

Pip Boy · 05-05-2010, 08:33 PM

I liked brotherhood up until just recently when There was that cheesy cliche scene where Mustang was all raging at Envy and they did the whole "revenge intervention" thing with like one episode of buildup to it in such a way that it seemed totally forced in there and made no sense. If Colonel Mustang's hunt for whoever killed Hughes and rage about the whole incident had been made more apparent in previous episodes, it would have been more believable, but the whole thing seemed like a totally random and pointless way to shove a sappy moral into the story.

05-05-2010, 01:42 AM	#1
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Fullmetal Alchemist I'm not sure what's with translation companies irritating the crap out of me recently, but since Viz Media can't do in several months what a bunch of random nerds on the internet can do in about a week, I decided to start watching subbed episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood again. I can't believe what I've been missing out on! Al's battle with Pride was absolutely awesome. Envy's death was surprisingly gut-wrenching. And I hear that it gets even crazier pretty soon. I'm already at least a whole volume past what I was at before. My only concern is that this might dampen my excitement to get the volumes when they finally DO come out. In any case, is anyone else a fan of this awesome series? Personally, I prefer the 1st anime (I'm just weird like that), but the manga definitely has its strengths.

05-05-2010, 01:50 AM	#2
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	I'm liking Brotherhood more than the original, just because I feel it's drawing to a close much better. The original anime handled the beginning much better, but I just don't feel the ending was nearly as strong. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

05-05-2010, 10:40 AM	#8
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	I'm pretty sure episode 55 is The Best Thing Ever. Armstrong brofist! __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

05-05-2010, 06:43 PM	#9
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I quit buying the American translated manga after I read that they translated Xerxes as "Cselkciss" in later volumes, cause I can't take that level of ineptitude. Confirm or deny this tidbit for me. If you're going to go ahead and watch subbed versions of FMA BH you might as well read scanlations of the manga online, you can always buy the American volumes when they come out. I don't think the FBI is going to rappel through your windows for viewing open websites that don't even require you to download anything. OR WILL THEY? Yes, the second anime's beginning is rushed. Maybe some kind of omni-version will eventually be released that intersperses episodes from the first anime into the series, while avoiding episodes involving, say, Majhal. Battle on the Train, for example. __________________ The Valiant Review Last edited by Magus; 05-05-2010 at 06:46 PM.

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05-05-2010, 02:22 AM	#6
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	I can kind of see that, NonCon. I think that the 1st anime was anticlimactic to an extent, because the focus was never meant to be on the fighting. And a lot of people didn't like the plot device regarding the Gate. To me, that kinda made sense. I mean, Gates traditionally GO somewhere. In any case, I consider the manga's biggest strength to be the fact that it goes far more in-depth, while the anime gave us more development with the Homunculi. As to the actual 2nd anime itself, it's been irritating me for some time, because I've felt that the animators were being cheap &/or lazy. Envy's true form, for example, is SO much more detailed in the manga, & it's hinted that it moves a lot more. Now that I've seen the recent episodes, though, I suspect that they've been saving up for the end, so I'm cool. Except that Envy's mouth reminds me of Teeth. Kyanbu: My problem with FMA's translation is actually the mangas, not the dub. I was told recently that Vol. 23 would be out on April 20th. I went to Barnes & Noble on that day & was told that the release date was actually JUNE 20th. I don't know whether the clerk made an error or if the date was pushed back, but either way, that's ridiculous. It's ALREADY behind schedule. From what I've seen, other series are about the same story. I kinda tried putting myself in their shoes, but every single argument I could come up with to explain this was undermined by the fact that fanslation sites can actually stick to a schedule, so a whole company should be able to do it, too.

05-05-2010, 08:33 PM	#10
Pip Boy Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: A right and proper Nerd Cave Posts: 2,460	I liked brotherhood up until just recently when There was that cheesy cliche scene where Mustang was all raging at Envy and they did the whole "revenge intervention" thing with like one episode of buildup to it in such a way that it seemed totally forced in there and made no sense. If Colonel Mustang's hunt for whoever killed Hughes and rage about the whole incident had been made more apparent in previous episodes, it would have been more believable, but the whole thing seemed like a totally random and pointless way to shove a sappy moral into the story.