Pokemon Umbral Discussion 33: Gotta Stop Watching Anime While Doing This

[Astral Harmony]

Boy, what that post exhausting. Then again, it did take a long time because I tend to foolishly surround myself with distractions. Anywho, I hope you don't mind how that battle ended.

Anyways, tomorrow's my duty day which should give me some time to work on plot devices, Magatama powers, and Ruin Pokemon changes.

[Dracorion]

You know I was going to say something...

I think I was angry...

But then I saw that picture.



Hurrrrrrmmmm...


Oh! Now I remember! Man, I am so totally pissed at how that battle ended! We didn't get to properly beat the crap out of Grant or Dialga or Palkia! This blows, man!

Plus, now Geminex is obviously going to show up doing his smarter-than-thou thing saying how we wouldn't have to worry about Major Grant if we had just waited two days to implement his plan to kill the bastard.

[Menarker]

Gardevoir's "dress" is actually partly see-through! You can see her milky thighs, ROAWR! And such a mischevious smile! <3

Battles getting interrupted seems to be rather of an ongoing thing. I blame it on Bard this time though. If Charlotte didn't demand a good reason why Lucian and Discord should be left alive, then AB wouldn't be struggling to find a way to ensure that they stayed alive to keep his planned plot alive. :3

Well, Renny will restock on items, heal up all his pokemons, and that sort of thing.

And is no one concerned that Twiloch and Marionetta were able to instantly find Lexhur one mission after we got him, bypass all defenses of the PATCA facility and spring Lexhur without anyone noticing (especially since Lexhur is a god-damn tank)? Gee, it's like those two should have had no problems killing individual members of our group, or the leaders like Rayleen. Hell, why are they wasting time with us? They could be trying to off Burkmont for his betrayals. We certainly didn't hide Lexhur nearly long enough from the ones he ran off from.
And they said that they didn't approve of Burkmont recruiting the rogues Ruin Generals... isn't that argument rather selective when you consider that PATCA recruited Lexhur? I know it was Lexhur who made that particular offer, but still...

Although Renny certainly doesn't mind their help against Wildfire and Burkmont's forces, the implications are indeed unsettling. ^^;

[Dracorion]

Presumably Burkmont has better defenses than PATCA.

Thing is, the Watchmen have a habit of beating the crap out of the bad guys against all odds.

Anyway, I'm guessing Idollus has less of a problem with Lexhur joining PATCA than Burkmont recruiting Rogue Generals because, well, PATCA is the lesser of two evils.

Pierce is going to be pretty pissed at Twiloch and Marionata, though.

Two questions, AB:

A) We're allowed to use this chance before the Mio battle to restock on items?

B) We've already established that Pierce's sidequest and Rayleen's sidequest take place one after the other, but what about Missions 7 and 9, which are also split? The descriptions on those seem to be shorter than your regular mission, so I'm not sure if they're meant to be shorter because they're happening at the same time.

I'm now imagining Whitney's dress to be partially see-through. It's a happy thought.

[Geminex]

Eh, I doubt AB would’ve let me kill Grant if he was still important to the story. Plan was to have Wilhelmina snipe him, have Pierce flinch his rouge Pokemon, and then have Lexhur Laser his rogues start of next turn. It would have worked out.

The whole point is to have Pierce achieve wold domination. To do that, Enmakki needs Pierce to trust it. Pierce knows that.

Ok, y’know what annoys me about the world domination thing… No, not that I have the sole right to it, I’m done claiming that in words . No, what annoys me is that Enmakki can see into both Piercre’s and Impact’s minds, understand what they think and how they think… and yet you say it would choose Pierce? That’s just… no. Just no. Pierce is a pretty good guy, but he’s not suited to world domination. Like, not in the slightest.
And how does he know Enmakki is telling the truth about world domination?

Sure, Impact could pretend to be all nice and good. Except he's not that good an actor and you're not that good a roleplayer.

Actually, yes he is. Or, rather, will be. And what do you mean, ‘not that good a role-player’? Playing evil and sinister is way more effort than playing nice and friendly, since nice and friendly tends not to have to weigh their words. And once Impact’s gone half-demon, I’m hoping to have him go beyond sinister or friendly. Slightly creepy, still. But oh so very… calculating. Behind the scenes, of course. You wouldn’t know that he’s running the numbers, estimating the odds.

Specifically in regards to my six-attack tech idea, I proposed Wilhelmina's Maid to Mistress as an example. When she goes Overblade, she'll presumably get four attacks per turn and +5 to all stats for three turns when she uses Maid to Mistress.

Ok… you’ve got a point. But there’s no guarantee that Pierce will go overblade himself…
How about this: Pierce goes into an allmighty rage that triples the amount of attacks normally available to him. However, he has to recall all pokemon to do this, and can use no items, trainer attacks or other techniques while raging. He also gains no rage, and attacks with the same weapon for the duration of every turn, though he can switch weapons between turns. Not sure about the cost…
Maybe it could be a demon thing, where you don’t pay a fixed cost to begin with, but a certain amount of rage per turn, or per extra attack?

And yeah, Impact is a priority target. That’s because he has a lot of offensive power, sure. But more than that, it’s because he combines a lot of this power in just one individual (high power-per-unit). Meaning if the enemies manage to disable him, they manage to disable more of our offensive ability, for less effort.
But that doesn’t mean that trainers don’t have more raw power than slayers already. Sure, Slayers have one hell of an action at their disposal. Trainers, on the other hand, have two actions which aren’t too shabby either, and they can use a third action to pay for techniques. That does not necessarily seem fair.

Leave Sophie’s skill, we’re gonna need one like it, might as well be you who provides it. I’m not that territorial.

I’d be fine with a 480-stats Tsujimi, cause you didn’t argue. That should be fair.

I think there actually isn’t that much that hostages can do if they’re trapped in a stasis field, and connected to poke-inhibitors. Or something. Look, I’ll find a foolproof way to take hostages somehow, if only by using pseudoscientific prefixes.

As for the rest… I’ll send you a PM, Drac. We can discuss exactly what will happen after mission 4.

[Astral Harmony]

Yeah, I'm really sorry I made the battle end like that. Thinking on it, there really shouldn't be any other battles that would end that way in the future. But I will stop doing it, anyways.

Yes, you use this break to restock and recover. Don't forget to switch out Pokemon you don't need for those three Legendaries.

Missions 7 and 9 are happening at the same time. I'm certain that they won't exactly end at the same time, but that's not really an issue if we hold out until both are caught up.

Seeing as how both Impact and Pierce want to control the world, I would like to do a battle where they're fighting somewhere to decide who gets to conquer the world, like in a parking garage or on a moving train. However, one thing is going to hold Pierce back: Chizuru. She would drop him like a diseased cat if he went and pulled that shit.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Ok, y’know what annoys me about the world domination thing… No, not that I have the sole right to it, I’m done claiming that in words . No, what annoys me is that Enmakki can see into both Piercre’s and Impact’s minds, understand what they think and how they think… and yet you say it would choose Pierce? That’s just… no. Just no. Pierce is a pretty good guy, but he’s not suited to world domination. Like, not in the slightest.
And how does he know Enmakki is telling the truth about world domination?

No, no. Pierce isn't going to be aiming for world domination. Ever. Enmakki wants him to, though.

Also, it's because Enmakki knows everything about Impact that it wouldn't choose him. Impact would manipulate and betray Enmakki at the first chance, and it's not like Enmakki has mind control. Pierce, on the other hand, has a sense of honor and wouldn't betray or manipulate Enmakki.

Simply put, Pierce can be trusted, Impact can't.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Actually, yes he is. Or, rather, will be. And what do you mean, ‘not that good a role-player’? Playing evil and sinister is way more effort than playing nice and friendly, since nice and friendly tends not to have to weigh their words. And once Impact’s gone half-demon, I’m hoping to have him go beyond sinister or friendly. Slightly creepy, still. But oh so very… calculating. Behind the scenes, of course. You wouldn’t know that he’s running the numbers, estimating the odds.

Fair enough. I guess we'll see.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Ok… you’ve got a point. But there’s no guarantee that Pierce will go overblade himself…
How about this: Pierce goes into an allmighty rage that triples the amount of attacks normally available to him. However, he has to recall all pokemon to do this, and can use no items, trainer attacks or other techniques while raging. He also gains no rage, and attacks with the same weapon for the duration of every turn, though he can switch weapons between turns. Not sure about the cost…
Maybe it could be a demon thing, where you don’t pay a fixed cost to begin with, but a certain amount of rage per turn, or per extra attack?

Erm, okay. See, I've already got Pierce's upgrades mapped out. He'll go Breeder level 2, Slayer level 3 and Demon Half level 5 (I'd get Full Demon level 1 and Slayer level 2, but we agreed a long time ago that Full Demon would be exclusively yours).

Look, I'm going to go ahead and post my idea for Pierce's final Signature Technique properly.

Signature Technique: Pierce-chucks
Description: "WHAT IS HAPPENING WHAT IS HAPPENING?!" "I DON'T KNOW!" "I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING" "How is he wielding swords linked together by a chain without chopping his arms off?! More importantly, HOW IS HE WIELDING THREE OF THEM!" "MY MIND, IT IS BLOWN"

Effect: Pierce focuses his demonic energies into Netherwurm (the Dragon/Ghost slave), making three pairs of the weapon, each pair linked together by a chain, hence "Pierce-chucks". It's hard for bystanders to describe what it looks like for Pierce to wield three impossible weapons at a time. It is simply impossible.

Pierce himself (not his pokemon) gets six attacks per turn for three turns. Each attack is forced Dragon/Ghost damage and each attack has a 10% chance to cause confusion from the sheer impossibility.

There. I wanted to make it Almighty type, but I guess Dragon/Ghost works too. I'm not sure about cost either.

As for Pierce gaining no Rage, that's usually a given with Signature Techniques that have a set duration. You don't see Cecilia or Wilhelmina gaining RPs when they use theirs.

Also, AB, do PC Battle Masters or Legion Mages get Trainer Attacks? I'm thinking no, but it can't hurt to clarify.

Originally Posted by Geminex

And yeah, Impact is a priority target. That’s because he has a lot of offensive power, sure. But more than that, it’s because he combines a lot of this power in just one individual (high power-per-unit). Meaning if the enemies manage to disable him, they manage to disable more of our offensive ability, for less effort.
But that doesn’t mean that trainers don’t have more raw power than slayers already. Sure, Slayers have one hell of an action at their disposal. Trainers, on the other hand, have two actions which aren’t too shabby either, and they can use a third action to pay for techniques. That does not necessarily seem fair.

Impact gets to use an item for free. He can use a technique and attack in the same turn, or use a technique, an accessory and attack in the same turn.

Doesn't seem all that unfair to me.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Leave Sophie’s skill, we’re gonna need one like it, might as well be you who provides it. I’m not that territorial.

Could've fooled me.

Just kidding.

Originally Posted by Geminex

I’d be fine with a 480-stats Tsujimi, cause you didn’t argue. That should be fair.

Funny thing: you said 480 stats, but I said 460. [Joke?]I'm going to go on ahead and give Tsujimi those extra 20 points.[/Joke?]

[Bard The 5th LW]

The whole point is to have Pierce achieve wold domination. To do that, Enmakki needs Pierce to trust it. Pierce knows that.

lol

[Dracorion]

Oh, you don't know the half of it Bard.

It gets sillier.

EDIT: Or are you just reacting to the "wold" typo?

[Menarker]

Can you imagine Enmakki attempting to do the same for the others? (Because you said it would attempt to mind-read Impact or so).

Charlotte: "... Nah, too much carnage, not enough domination."

Renny: "Bitch, I got world domination! I can offer power, wealth, bitches and all that..."
"I don't wanna! I want world peace and happiness and love and..."
*Enmakki pukes his guts out.* "World domination and perverting the innocent is not worth standing near that Shota love freak for any length of time!"

Matthias: *Enmakki spills the beans about all sorts of hidden thoughts and emotions about Matthias that none of us know in or out of character.*