Counter-Strike 1.6

[Windrift-RPG]

Apparently Valve went bankrupt, so counter-strike and other half-life mods are now played through Steam (WON identification is gone, as well). Well, with the transfer over to Steam, they enforced an upgrade from counter-strike 1.5 to 1.6. And well, I'd just like to say, 1.6 is effin' terrible. Poor quality servers, near unreadable text, pixellated graphics (not that there's anything wrong with pixels in certain circumstances :p), even WORSE sounding voice communication, addition of newbie guns, nerfing of old guns, ah man.. the list goes on. Worst of all, they totally screwed up my old favorite map, Aztec. I also noticed that bullets land much more often now, even when your crosshair is not precisely on someone, making it much easier to kill people (and much easier to die).

What are the sentiments of the other CSers out there?

[Living Bobbeh]

First let me congratulate you on talking about a year old thingy. Steam has been out for about a year now (I think, it's nothing new) and I've heard the CS1.6 sucks, But CS1.5 Still works if you had the full version. I fooked up my steam by forgeting the e-mail I resistered with (Used a fake) and now it don't work

[KefkaTaran]

Also: Valve didn't go bankrupt. I dunno where you heard that info, but just the thought is ridiculous. Valve CREATED Steam. And it's a good system if they can learn to implement it right.

[Windrift-RPG]

First let me congratulate you on talking about a year old thingy. Steam has been out for about a year now

Uhh, let me congratulate you on your unfounded sarcasm. 1.5 was playable up until last week through CS's internal connection methods using WON identification. They took away 1.5 at one other point, and immediately implemented it again, as they lost almost their entire player base. But now everything has officially moved up to 1.6, and the ONLY method of connecting is through Steam. Valve and WON are completely dead. You HAVE to use Steam and 1.6. This is not year old news, it just happened.

Also: Valve didn't go bankrupt. I dunno where you heard that info, but just the thought is ridiculous.

That is what I read in an article addressing why Valve and WON identification were disappearing, and Steam was going to be made the only method for playing CS. I'll look and see if I can find it again. I realize Valve made Steam, but I'm thinking Valve went bankrupt and was bought out, and that's why everything has been switched over. Could be wrong.

[KefkaTaran]

Windrift: Trust me, that's wrong. Valve didn't go bankrupt. Think of it this way: They made Half-Life and they released the MILLIONS of different incarnations of Half-Life. These guys are ROLLING in cash.

WON may have gone bankrupt. I believe WON was a seperate entity from Valve, and they no longer have an existing website, so that'd make sense.

[Windrift-RPG]

Originally Posted by KefkaTaran

Windrift: Trust me, that's wrong. Valve didn't go bankrupt. Think of it this way: They made Half-Life and they released the MILLIONS of different incarnations of Half-Life. These guys are ROLLING in cash.

WON may have gone bankrupt. I believe WON was a seperate entity from Valve, and they no longer have an existing website, so that'd make sense.

You're probably right, I know for sure WON is gone. And so is 1.5. And steam is required.

/cry

[Lockeownzj00]

Steam is good. I don't know why people resist.

"Hmm, faster connections, integrated interface, auto-updating, and in-game messaging? No way! I'd like this crappy WON list instead."

Steam > all. It had problems, and they're fixed.

Besides, besides hte semi-cheap shield, not much is 'shitty.'

But yeah it is year old news...WON was going to be gotten rid of for a very long time.

I actually think you still might be able to play 1.5 through steam. Seem to remember my friends mentioning it.

[Windrift-RPG]

Originally Posted by Lockeownzj00

Steam is good. I don't know why people resist.

Steam is good. I never complained about steam. But 1.6 is not good.

Something that does suck about Steam is the fact that so many people that bought a legit copy of half-life/CS can't use their CD key, and they have to go through a ton of hassle (and possibly expense) or simply buy a new copy just to play. Thankfully I did not have that problem. For anyone with this problem, go to Wal-Mart, they have the original half-life for $14. Everywhere else is selling that platinum crap that is $49.99 because it comes with a couple mods that are freeware.

Besides, besides hte semi-cheap shield, not much is 'shitty.'

I disagree muchly, as stated in my original post.

But yeah it is year old news...WON was going to be gotten rid of for a very long time.

My intent was discuss that it finally happened. And it sucks.

I actually think you still might be able to play 1.5 through steam.

There are rumors and my buddy is trying to set up a server for it, but so far no one has had success.

[Fabricated]

Originally Posted by Windrift-RPG

Steam is good. I never complained about steam. But 1.6 is not good.

Something that does suck about Steam is the fact that so many people that bought a legit copy of half-life/CS can't use their CD key, and they have to go through a ton of hassle (and possibly expense) or simply buy a new copy just to play. Thankfully I did not have that problem. For anyone with this problem, go to Wal-Mart, they have the original half-life for $14. Everywhere else is selling that platinum crap that is $49.99 because it comes with a couple mods that are freeware.

...you don't need to buy HL again to get on Steam.

Install HL, run it, enter your CD key. Download steam, run steam, convert your files to the steam cache. Boom, done.

[Windrift-RPG]

Originally Posted by KefkaTaran

you didn't make yourself very clear at all about which you were talking about. Like you just pointed out, those were three seperate phrases from three different areas on a post.

Well, if you'd bothered to read those 3 posts before commenting on them, you'd have realized you had nothing to argue about.

"Good game."

Originally Posted by Fabricated

...you don't need to buy HL again to get on Steam.

Install HL, run it, enter your CD key. Download steam, run steam, convert your files to the steam cache. Boom, done.

This is actually a pretty large problem for the CS community right now. Copying the files over you must re-enter your CD key in steam. Was it not always like that? I know for sure Steam asks for your HL CD key after it copies the files, and it will not allow you to play if the CD key is invalid (despite having the files copied over). And for whatever reason, many valid CD keys don't actually work and need to be reset. The transfer has been pretty messy, they still have a lot of things to work out.