Thoughts on CT:DS?

Thadius · 02-23-2009, 10:43 AM

Is it a bastardization? Is it awesome beyond words?

I saw no place for people to talk/whine about it, so I went ahead and made this.

Personally, I find that although many of the words are different, the story and battle style remains intact. It is only punctuated by brief movies and trips to the little area where I'm supposedly training a monster to like me. Secret: It hates my guts and wants to kill me in my sleep.

That being said, I still have a very detailed description of how much I like it right here for you all:

Make all of mankind's sins and vices tangible things. Now roll them up Katamari-style. Now coat said ball with chocolate, making sure you get an even coat on all sides. As the chocolate cools, sprinkle fairy powder and crack on the chocolate for the sprinkle effect. Let the chocolate harden properly, then take your mass and grind it up with a Blend-Tec blender. Now's when you want a good friend around, because it will be their job to take the highly addictive mass/mess and force it into your brain. Remember that eyes and ears are the preferred routes for this addictive powder to take. Once you've got that going on, you will have a vague understanding of what it is like to play CT : DS.

What are your thoughts, everyone?

corronchilejano · 02-23-2009, 11:06 AM

I bought it, I played it, I sold it. I regret even looking at the additional quests (a pointless waste of time), and extra boss and story was both a joke and a nuisance.

If you've never played CT, it's good (ignore portals not colored blue or red), but there are cheaper versions out there. If you have, you don't need to play this... like, at all. Go, be a happy person, do NOT buy this game.

Mirai Gen · 02-23-2009, 12:12 PM

Some of the changed dialog is interesting, but yeah, the entire game's new content is the definition of 'halfassed'. The 'randomized dungeons' are just snippets of the rest of the game's dungeons, and they aren't even scaled to your level. So by the time you get to them you're just running around slaughtering things a quarter to half your level before you get to the end, go through a long cave, and discover someone like Dalton who goes "hahhahha! Let's fight, and then? Plot exposition!" Worse yet the new quests where you work for the reptites are just go-and-fetch, and its even stupider according to storyline. "Oh look! Its the same apes who saved us hundreds of years ago! Even though that doesn't make sense! Why are we even here? Who cares! Go do quests for us!"

I mean its still CT, but that isn't saying much.

Fifthfiend · 02-23-2009, 12:40 PM

Why pay money for crap when you can steal the good version for free?

Ryong · 02-23-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Why pay money for crap when you can steal the good version for free?

I think that's why.

'Sides, only the new content is crappy. The new dialog couldn't possibly be so bad.

Mirai Gen · 02-23-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryong

The new dialog couldn't possibly be so bad.

Swap out half of the lines that were great and quotable in the last game for different dialog for no reason at all, and then throw in Magus' title as Fiendlord (and change demi-humans to fiends) and you have the re-translation.

And Frog lost his accent.

So, yeah, it is.

EDIT: Also, Fifth owes us one burned-down house and I was completely and utterly wrong about CTDS.

Fifthfiend · 02-23-2009, 12:55 PM

It's not even so much overtly bad as just unnecessarily less-good, so it's like eh, why?

Ryong · 02-23-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

It's not even so much overtly bad as just unnecessarily less-good, so it's like eh, why?

I dunno. I guess it's an attempt at going "Our translators sucked back then, let's try again." that didn't work very well.

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

And Frog lost his accent.

It was either this or making everyone else in 600 A.D. speak like him for consistency, I believe, so they went with whatever was easier.

Mirai Gen · 02-23-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryong

It was either this or making everyone else in 600 A.D. speak like him for consistency, I believe, so they went with whatever was easier.

Oh come on, Glenn didn't speak like Frog in 600 AD, so I see no reason for them to change the game just to make things that were never internally consistent slightly less inconsistent.

Besides; in Beast Wars Silverbolt was clearly and plainly an play on paladins or knights, and he didn't use Middle English at all. Part of that had to do with his awesome voice actor, yes, but you can just read his dialog on an episode script and you still can totally get it.

Frog's dialog being changed doesn't bug me, what bugs me is that they changed it to normal English.

Regulus Tera · 02-23-2009, 01:54 PM

NPF's majority: they changed it now it sucks

I for one thought the localisation tried to hard to be more faithful to the Japanese game. There are some welcome modifications (Frog's speech pattern, while less "funny", makes a lot more sense now), but there are some really stupid line changes everywhere ("But... the future refused to changed" > "In the end, the future refused to change").

That said, it is Chrono motherfucking Trigger, and I was surprised at how well the game has aged throughout the decade.

02-23-2009, 10:43 AM	#1
Thadius BEARD IMPACT Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MANLY ANGER Posts: 1,977	Thoughts on CT:DS? Is it a bastardization? Is it awesome beyond words? I saw no place for people to talk/whine about it, so I went ahead and made this. Personally, I find that although many of the words are different, the story and battle style remains intact. It is only punctuated by brief movies and trips to the little area where I'm supposedly training a monster to like me. Secret: It hates my guts and wants to kill me in my sleep. That being said, I still have a very detailed description of how much I like it right here for you all: Make all of mankind's sins and vices tangible things. Now roll them up Katamari-style. Now coat said ball with chocolate, making sure you get an even coat on all sides. As the chocolate cools, sprinkle fairy powder and crack on the chocolate for the sprinkle effect. Let the chocolate harden properly, then take your mass and grind it up with a Blend-Tec blender. Now's when you want a good friend around, because it will be their job to take the highly addictive mass/mess and force it into your brain. Remember that eyes and ears are the preferred routes for this addictive powder to take. Once you've got that going on, you will have a vague understanding of what it is like to play CT : DS. What are your thoughts, everyone? __________________ ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS.

02-23-2009, 11:06 AM	#2
corronchilejano ... what? Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 90	I bought it, I played it, I sold it. I regret even looking at the additional quests (a pointless waste of time), and extra boss and story was both a joke and a nuisance. If you've never played CT, it's good (ignore portals not colored blue or red), but there are cheaper versions out there. If you have, you don't need to play this... like, at all. Go, be a happy person, do NOT buy this game. __________________ The f word... Funky

02-23-2009, 12:12 PM	#3
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	Some of the changed dialog is interesting, but yeah, the entire game's new content is the definition of 'halfassed'. The 'randomized dungeons' are just snippets of the rest of the game's dungeons, and they aren't even scaled to your level. So by the time you get to them you're just running around slaughtering things a quarter to half your level before you get to the end, go through a long cave, and discover someone like Dalton who goes "hahhahha! Let's fight, and then? Plot exposition!" Worse yet the new quests where you work for the reptites are just go-and-fetch, and its even stupider according to storyline. "Oh look! Its the same apes who saved us hundreds of years ago! Even though that doesn't make sense! Why are we even here? Who cares! Go do quests for us!" I mean its still CT, but that isn't saying much. __________________

02-23-2009, 12:40 PM	#4
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Why pay money for crap when you can steal the good version for free? __________________ check out my buttspresso

02-23-2009, 12:55 PM	#7
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	It's not even so much overtly bad as just unnecessarily less-good, so it's like eh, why? __________________ check out my buttspresso

02-23-2009, 01:54 PM	#10
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	NPF's majority: they changed it now it sucks I for one thought the localisation tried to hard to be more faithful to the Japanese game. There are some welcome modifications (Frog's speech pattern, while less "funny", makes a lot more sense now), but there are some really stupid line changes everywhere ("But... the future refused to changed" > "In the end, the future refused to change"). That said, it is Chrono motherfucking Trigger, and I was surprised at how well the game has aged throughout the decade.